Hi moderators (and website developers and/or editors too), We have some awesome new features in the gallery, regarding moderation. Gone are the yellow "sheriff star" placeholders to indicate a hidden resource. Yay! With the amount of spam we've been getting lately, I would literally cringe to see a third or half page of yellow star images (when looking at Last Updated view). And no one will be seeing those, anymore!
Moderators will still see the hidden resources, but they have a dashed red outline around them, and highlighted very light pink. Non-moderators (regular members) will just see a beautiful gallery, with no hint of moderation activity. Perfect!
If a moderator needs to look at the resource (whether resource, thumbnail, or other) they can click on the resource and see the regular resource page. But now, it has a nice bold red label "Removed by Moderators", so there's no confusion.
Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label for flagged members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about identifying hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
I'm not sure if all the moderators saw my last message on the Docs mailing list (because I didn't think to address it individually to moderators). We've been getting a type of spam called "flood spamming" where someone posts 4 or 5 (or more) spam images or comments at a time. A new wrinkle is they are pushing toll free phone numbers for fake support desk or customer service. Not much we can do except be vigilant, really. I just wanted to notifiy about this slight uptick in spam.
Thanks Martin for the improvements! And thanks for everyone's hard work and dedication to keeping the gallery clean and well-organized. As always, please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns.
All best, brynn
Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label for flagged members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about identifying hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show. They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've posted)
Best Regard, Martin Owens
I think you misunderstood me.
Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular member. If another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no idea that member has already been flagged.
That member probably has at least one reported resource in their profile page, which is a clue that member might already be flagged. But sometimes the member doesn't get flagged.
Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they have been flagged. But it would just be convenient to see it on the profile page, and not have to look around for it.
I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be handled the same way. Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's been flagged?
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Cc: die humblex Subject: Re: new moderation features
Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label forflagged members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about identifying hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show. They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've posted)
Best Regard, Martin Owens
Maren,
Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving issue.
Martin,
On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote:
I think you misunderstood me.
Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular member. If another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no idea that member has already been flagged.
That member probably has at least one reported resource in their profile page, which is a clue that member might already be flagged. But sometimes the member doesn't get flagged.
Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they have been flagged. But it would just be convenient to see it on the profile page, and not have to look around for it.
I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be handled the same way. Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's been flagged?
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Cc: die humblex Subject: Re: new moderation features
Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label for flagged members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about identifying hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show. They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've posted)
Best Regard, Martin Owens
Thanks for having a look.
No, doesn't work.
To reproduce:
Visit https://inkscape.org/en/alerts/settings/ Go to one of the tabs (e.g. Website Page Published) Move one of the sliders (e.g. Send Email Alert -> On) Save Notification Settings
Go to a different page. Open Message settings page again. All will be as before, the change was not registered. Emails are not sent, either.
Maren
Am 09.02.2018 um 13:55 schrieb Martin Owens:
Maren,
Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving issue.
Martin,
On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote:
I think you misunderstood me.
Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular member. If another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no idea that member has already been flagged.
That member probably has at least one reported resource in their profile page, which is a clue that member might already be flagged. But sometimes the member doesn't get flagged.
Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they have been flagged. But it would just be convenient to see it on the profile page, and not have to look around for it.
I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be handled the same way. Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's been flagged?
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Cc: die humblex Subject: Re: new moderation features
Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label for flagged members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about identifying hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show. They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've posted)
Best Regard, Martin Owens
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Thanks for trying Maren,
I've pushed a much more comprehensive set of changes, firstly by making form errors VERY visible. What's happening is that the form is being rejected because a field is required. The first fix was to tell the form that the field wasn't required, I don't know why it didn't work for you the second time though, so that's why I've pushed a bigger fix that shows tabs in red, keeps tabs present and shows field errors in red.
So hopefully when you test again, it'll either work, or fail in a really big showy way.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 14:50 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
Thanks for having a look.
No, doesn't work.
To reproduce:
Visit https://inkscape.org/en/alerts/settings/ Go to one of the tabs (e.g. Website Page Published) Move one of the sliders (e.g. Send Email Alert -> On) Save Notification Settings
Go to a different page. Open Message settings page again. All will be as before, the change was not registered. Emails are not sent, either.
Maren
Am 09.02.2018 um 13:55 schrieb Martin Owens:
Maren,
Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving issue.
Martin,
On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote:
I think you misunderstood me.
Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular member. If another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no idea that member has already been flagged.
That member probably has at least one reported resource in their profile page, which is a clue that member might already be flagged. But sometimes the member doesn't get flagged.
Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they have been flagged. But it would just be convenient to see it on the profile page, and not have to look around for it.
I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be handled the same way. Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's been flagged?
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Cc: die humblex Subject: Re: new moderation features
Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label for flagged members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about identifying hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show. They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've posted)
Best Regard, Martin Owens
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Thanks, that helps. Kudos for figuring out that weird reason.
Turns out one cannot subscribe to all news. I don't think it should require me to subscribe to a specific language, when I have set it to 'all', though.
Screenshots: http://i.imgur.com/3TxCOWG.png http://i.imgur.com/Hi70BIT.png
Maren
Am 09.02.2018 um 17:26 schrieb Martin Owens:
Thanks for trying Maren,
I've pushed a much more comprehensive set of changes, firstly by making form errors VERY visible. What's happening is that the form is being rejected because a field is required. The first fix was to tell the form that the field wasn't required, I don't know why it didn't work for you the second time though, so that's why I've pushed a bigger fix that shows tabs in red, keeps tabs present and shows field errors in red.
So hopefully when you test again, it'll either work, or fail in a really big showy way.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 14:50 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
Thanks for having a look.
No, doesn't work.
To reproduce:
Visit https://inkscape.org/en/alerts/settings/ Go to one of the tabs (e.g. Website Page Published) Move one of the sliders (e.g. Send Email Alert -> On) Save Notification Settings
Go to a different page. Open Message settings page again. All will be as before, the change was not registered. Emails are not sent, either.
Maren
Am 09.02.2018 um 13:55 schrieb Martin Owens:
Maren,
Can you try now? I think I might have fixed the subscription saving issue.
Martin,
On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 19:07 -0700, brynn wrote:
I think you misunderstood me.
Let's say someone flags a member - anyone, moderator or regular member. If another moderator looks at that member's profile, they have no idea that member has already been flagged.
That member probably has at least one reported resource in their profile page, which is a clue that member might already be flagged. But sometimes the member doesn't get flagged.
Of course we can look at the Moderation Page, to find out if they have been flagged. But it would just be convenient to see it on the profile page, and not have to look around for it.
I'm just thinking that maybe reported items all need to be handled the same way. Maybe reported Comments need to show some indication that it's been flagged?
Thanks, brynn
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:53 PM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Docs Cc: die humblex Subject: Re: new moderation features
Martin, would it be possible to have a similar label for flagged members? Just to prevent confusion? Or is the idea more about identifying hidden things, while members don't get hidden?
Users get deleted when they are censured. So there's no flag to show. They and their objects are toast (that includes anything they've posted)
Best Regard, Martin Owens
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On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 21:14 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
Thanks, that helps. Kudos for figuring out that weird reason.
Turns out one cannot subscribe to all news. I don't think it should require me to subscribe to a specific language, when I have set it to 'all', though.
Screenshots: http://i.imgur.com/3TxCOWG.png http://i.imgur.com/Hi70BIT.png
Great! I've fixed this specific issue, I don't think it was ever intended to be a required field like this.
I also pushed the new keywords and html desc fields for the releases app. Which I figured was VERY important to fix. So we can now set a htmldesc on the release (say 0.91) which will show in google's search results as the description for those pages. Plus keywords for the release which will be added to the keywords list, then on top of that each platform can have it's own keywords now, so they get added on too.
So base.html says "inkscape,", release.html template adds "release,download," Release object adds "0.92.1,fun_release,etc..." then the platform adds "windows,win32,win10,windows 10,..." etc etc.
None of these fields are currently filled in though, so if there's some really kind docs person who wants to mull over what they should be all set to, let us know and I can give some training into how to use the admin site to set them.
Martin,
Am 09.02.2018 um 21:28 schrieb Martin Owens:
Great! I've fixed this specific issue, I don't think it was ever intended to be a required field like this.
Thank you, Martin, saving works now.
I have just tested requesting access to the translators team, using a test account, to see if I get an email to my team admin account. I didn't get any within the last 20 minutes, though, so I think that might not work as expected. I am subscribed to them, according to the message settings. There's also nothing in my inbox on the website.
http://i.imgur.com/7FUfGqm.png
Regards, Maren
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