Hey Brynn. I'd say if it gets to the point where it's diluting the awesome, maybe do it in bulk. :) Until then, I think we all trust your judgement, and appreciate your help with it. Please do whatever you think is best. I agree with all your points. :) Re: 100% inkscape... I'm not sure what that means :) I use Inkscape in Tandem with GIMP all the time, back and forth for example. I doubt very much if people use Inkscape and illustrator together, but who knows. Again, I trust your judgement on it. As long as Inkscape is being used as a graphics tool, I think we should allow posting. If someone is blatantly abusing our galleries to advertise their non-Inkscape art, then it's probably a good enough reason to delete them. Not sure if the above is all that helpful, but thanks for your thoughts and help with all of it. -C On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:09 PM, brynn <brynn@...78...> wrote: > Thanks for your comments, C R. > >> Re: Time as a resource: I think it's not worth anyone's time to scour > > the internet trying to prove that something wasn't made in Inkscape. > > Well of course, that's not what I'm proposing. For the image I did search, > there was no scouring. It was the first result of the first search I made. > It was clear enough for me just to look at the image. But I searched it out > just to prove my suspicion. (It's the only time I've done that.) > > For the rest of your comments, I had the very same thoughts at first. If it > could have been....why not. But the reason I wanted to try to discuss, is > because > > (a) These images are numerous, considering our limited space. > > (b) Most of them could really only be done by advanced users (That's usually > how I catch them. If they really had been made with Inkscape, in my > experience, the artist wants to shout it out - not make a drive-by upload.) > > (c) I'm afraid it's misrepresenting Inkscape's abilities. I'm afraid it > gives the impression that it must be easy to create amazing images. > > (d) It makes it harder to find the really awesome Inkscape-made images. It > kind of dilutes the pool of awesome. > > I really have always (well, since I found Inkscape 10 years ago) wanted an > Inkscape-only gallery. To me, THAT would be amazing! And to me, that's > what the website should provide. > > I wonder if it would work to have another category, or another Order By > option, like All Inkscape or 100% Inkscape, or something like that? Because > I certainly have no objection to having images in the gallery, for which > Inkscape was used only for part of it. But maybe it would be nice to have > the "all Inkscape" images easier to find? > > Well anyway, as I said, I already had an idea that this isn't a big concern > for the community. But I just wanted to voice a few thoughts as to why > maybe it should be. > > Thanks again :-) > brynn > > -----Original Message----- From: C R > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 4:33 AM > To: brynn > Cc: Inkscape-Docs ; Inkscape-Devel > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] moderation - 'could have been made w/Inkscape' > > > Re: Time as a resource: I think it's not worth anyone's time to scour > the internet trying to prove that something wasn't made in Inkscape. > > I can think of several ways to do the graphic in question (or at least > similar) in Inkscape, so I'd let it stay as it's actually quite > stunning and not really hurting anyone. > > Even if it's not done in Inkscape, it gets people thinking about how > it could be done in Inkscape, which is not a bad thing. Maybe it will > inspire someone to post a vector resource of it in the future. > > Going forward, this is my recommendation: If it looks like it could > have been done in Inkscape, and it was posted on our website, then we > can assume (for the sake of aesthetics) that it was. > > Obviously if the uploader came back and replied to your comment, > saying "Oh, I've not done this in Inkscape." Then you can remove it > without having to make any guesses. :) > > Thanks for bringing it to attention, Brynn. Your hard work to fight > against random non-Inkscape posts is definitely making the site much > more usable and clutter free for everyone. > > > -C > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:29 AM, brynn <brynn@...78...> wrote: >> >> Hi Friends, >> I think I probably know how the community leans on this. But since >> it bothers me so much, and happens so often, I thought it was worth not >> assuming the answer, and finding out for sure. >> >> A few months ago, we decided not to allow random photos in the >> gallery, which are unrelated to the project in any way. We also decided >> not >> to bother with copyright issues. (long discussion - >> https://sourceforge.net/p/inkscape/mailman/message/35798617/) >> >> Probably equally as often as random photos being uploaded, are >> images >> which *could have been made with Inkscape* but which I doubt were. So >> far, >> I've been letting these go through. But as I said, I wanted to have a >> discussion, rather than assume. >> >> Here are a couple of recent examples: >> >> -- 2 images, 1 resource and 1 thumbnail -- >> https://inkscape.org/en/~noahgabe@...172.../%E2%98%85music >> >> -- >> https://inkscape.org/en/~KristiBryant113/%E2%98%85jesus-saves-the-world2 >> (I did a little research on this one, and found it at many different sites >> (many on different sites selling tshirts, as well as just web images) with >> the same basic image (and this exact image here: >> >> https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--rVeDm8Gt--/t_Previe...) >> -- so I'm pretty sure it wasn't made with Inkscape) >> >> >> --https://inkscape.org/en/~chiquitita/%E2%98%8515230751-703016283207581-8475381764676214363-n >> >> To me, all of those /could have been/ made with Inkscape. But I >> have >> reasons to doubt all of them. How do you all think they should be >> handled? >> I think they should be handled similarly to random photos (contact the >> member, explain and link to CoC, ask to explain the relation to Inkscape, >> ask if they would like to remove, inform after 2 weeks we will do it, of >> course with graciousness. Or do we let them have the benefit of our >> doubt? >> >> I honestly don't understand why people go around posting random >> images (apparently, afaict) in random galleries, once or twice, and never >> come back. (I have the same curiosity about people who post 1 or 2 >> frivolous, sometimes meaningless messages in forums and never return.) >> But >> it seems worth the effort not to waste our limited resource on hosting >> these >> things. >> >> Anyway, thanks for any thoughts or comments :-) >> >> All best, >> brynn >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-devel mailing list >> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > >