Hi, I'm a translator subscribed to this list. I have received a lot of spam messages from it, more than not spam messages. Could anyone, please, configure this list or the mail server it is hosted on for avoid delivering of spam messages??
Thanks, Leandro Regueiro
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Hi Leandro Leandro Regueiro píše v Pá 08. 12. 2006 v 14:18 +0100:
Hi, I'm a translator subscribed to this list. I have received a lot of spam messages from it, more than not spam messages. Could anyone, please, configure this list or the mail server it is hosted on for avoid delivering of spam messages??
I am afraid that there is no antispam solution in sf.net mailing lists but one option that could help is to close this list to subscribers only as we did on inkscape-devel and inkscape-users last times.
I can try asking Bryce to do it if other translators do agree to close the list for subscribers only. Gentlemen, please speak.
Sincerely Josef "cornelius" Vybíral
On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 05:57:21PM +0100, Josef Vybiral wrote:
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Hi Leandro Leandro Regueiro p????e v P?? 08. 12. 2006 v 14:18 +0100:
Hi, I'm a translator subscribed to this list. I have received a lot of spam messages from it, more than not spam messages. Could anyone, please, configure this list or the mail server it is hosted on for avoid delivering of spam messages??
I am afraid that there is no antispam solution in sf.net mailing lists but one option that could help is to close this list to subscribers only as we did on inkscape-devel and inkscape-users last times.
I can try asking Bryce to do it if other translators do agree to close the list for subscribers only. Gentlemen, please speak.
Yes, this can be done. As with the other lists we simply need the agreement of a significant number of the members.
Keep in mind the downside of this approach is that it makes it difficult for non-members to post - they must first register. But for inkscape-user and inkscape-devel we felt this was a small price to pay for the benefit of no spam.
Bryce
On 09/12/2006, at 4:28 AM, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 05:57:21PM +0100, Josef Vybiral wrote:
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Hi Leandro Leandro Regueiro p????e v P?? 08. 12. 2006 v 14:18 +0100:
Hi, I'm a translator subscribed to this list. I have received a lot of spam messages from it, more than not spam messages. Could anyone, please, configure this list or the mail server it is hosted on for avoid delivering of spam messages??
I am afraid that there is no antispam solution in sf.net mailing lists but one option that could help is to close this list to subscribers only as we did on inkscape-devel and inkscape-users last times.
I can try asking Bryce to do it if other translators do agree to close the list for subscribers only. Gentlemen, please speak.
Yes, this can be done. As with the other lists we simply need the agreement of a significant number of the members.
Keep in mind the downside of this approach is that it makes it difficult for non-members to post - they must first register. But for inkscape-user and inkscape-devel we felt this was a small price to pay for the benefit of no spam.
+1 [1]
I think it's our only choice. Over 65% increase in spam recently, and it's no longer an amateur activity: it's organized crime [2]. :(
from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN
[1] I'm not a gentleman. ;)
[2] My husband is sysop at our local ISP, so I get the spam war up close and personal. ISPs are having major, ongoing trouble dealing with the deliberate, commercially-based onslaught of spam.
Clytie Siddall píše v So 09. 12. 2006 v 17:38 +1030:
I can try asking Bryce to do it if other translators do agree to close the list for subscribers only. Gentlemen, please speak.
Yes, this can be done. As with the other lists we simply need the agreement of a significant number of the members.
Keep in mind the downside of this approach is that it makes it difficult for non-members to post - they must first register. But for inkscape-user and inkscape-devel we felt this was a small price to pay for the benefit of no spam.
+1 [1]
Thanks for your vote
I think it's our only choice. Over 65% increase in spam recently, and it's no longer an amateur activity: it's organized crime [2]. :(
I agree, the only benefit users have is that they can freely post messages here and imo if they want to report a bug in translation or offer some help, then the registration will not be a problem for them.
[1] I'm not a gentleman. ;)
My deepest apologies milady. I realized that right after pressing "send" button. Feel free to choose any punishment you see appropriate for this terrible mistake :)
Sincerely Josef "cornelius" Vybíral
On 10/12/2006, at 12:27 AM, Josef Vybiral wrote:
+1 [1]
Thanks for your vote [to make the list subscriber-only]
If it weren't for SpamAssassin running on my ISP's servers, and SpamSieve at my end, all you'd see would be a hand waving feebly out of a huge pile of spam. So I'm glad I _could_ vote!
I think it's our only choice. Over 65% increase in spam recently, and it's no longer an amateur activity: it's organized crime [2]. :(
I agree, the only benefit users have is that they can freely post messages here and imo if they want to report a bug in translation or offer some help, then the registration will not be a problem for them.
Nearly all the project lists I'm subbed to are subscriber-only. I think it's what most people expect nowadays. As far as new users or people not expecting sub-only are concerned, we can keep an eye on the moderation queue for a month or so, and see how many genuine emails we get. I would be willing to help with that.
[1] I'm not a gentleman. ;)
My deepest apologies milady. I realized that right after pressing "send" button. Feel free to choose any punishment you see appropriate for this terrible mistake :)
np ;)
It's an easy mistake to make, and with the stats for female participation in free software so low, it's an understandable error, as well.
from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN
On Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 04:41:03PM +1030, Clytie Siddall wrote:
On 10/12/2006, at 12:27 AM, Josef Vybiral wrote:
+1 [1]
Thanks for your vote [to make the list subscriber-only]
If it weren't for SpamAssassin running on my ISP's servers, and SpamSieve at my end, all you'd see would be a hand waving feebly out of a huge pile of spam. So I'm glad I _could_ vote!
I think it's our only choice. Over 65% increase in spam recently, and it's no longer an amateur activity: it's organized crime [2]. :(
I agree, the only benefit users have is that they can freely post messages here and imo if they want to report a bug in translation or offer some help, then the registration will not be a problem for them.
Nearly all the project lists I'm subbed to are subscriber-only. I think it's what most people expect nowadays. As far as new users or people not expecting sub-only are concerned, we can keep an eye on the moderation queue for a month or so, and see how many genuine emails we get. I would be willing to help with that.
Okay, I've gone ahead and set the list to post by member only. That's a good point that more and more lists are going this way, so it's not going to be much surprise for people.
It sounds like a good plan to keep an eye on the moderation queue for a month or so, and thanks for volunteering. That will help make the transition less abrupt for people. I've added you and cornelius as moderators for this list.
After a month, or whenever you two feel the time is right, let me know and we can switch the list to reject non-member posts.
It's an easy mistake to make, and with the stats for female participation in free software so low, it's an understandable error, as well.
Early on in the project, we badly lacked representation from both genders, so it's great to have a good mix now. :-)
Bryce
Bryce Harrington píše v Ne 10. 12. 2006 v 11:02 -0800:
On Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 04:41:03PM +1030, Clytie Siddall wrote:
On 10/12/2006, at 12:27 AM, Josef Vybiral wrote:
+1 [1]
Thanks for your vote [to make the list subscriber-only]
If it weren't for SpamAssassin running on my ISP's servers, and SpamSieve at my end, all you'd see would be a hand waving feebly out of a huge pile of spam. So I'm glad I _could_ vote!
I think it's our only choice. Over 65% increase in spam recently, and it's no longer an amateur activity: it's organized crime [2]. :(
I agree, the only benefit users have is that they can freely post messages here and imo if they want to report a bug in translation or offer some help, then the registration will not be a problem for them.
Nearly all the project lists I'm subbed to are subscriber-only. I think it's what most people expect nowadays. As far as new users or people not expecting sub-only are concerned, we can keep an eye on the moderation queue for a month or so, and see how many genuine emails we get. I would be willing to help with that.
Okay, I've gone ahead and set the list to post by member only. That's a good point that more and more lists are going this way, so it's not going to be much surprise for people.
It sounds like a good plan to keep an eye on the moderation queue for a month or so, and thanks for volunteering. That will help make the transition less abrupt for people. I've added you and cornelius as moderators for this list.
After a month, or whenever you two feel the time is right, let me know and we can switch the list to reject non-member posts.
Thank you Bryce a lot.
Sincerely Josef "cornelius" Vybíral
participants (4)
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Bryce Harrington -
Clytie Siddall -
Josef Vybiral -
Leandro Regueiro