Am 25.07.2018 um 21:47 schrieb Yaron Shahrabani:

Yeah, I wasn't super thrilled about crowdin but they have a nice git integration, the problem is that they are limiting the number of strings for free projects so I gave up.

I'm now experimenting with Zanata, I've uploaded Hebrew and German to the same project (I can give you permissions) with 3 versions (0.91, 0,92 and master), the infrastructure is pretty cool and not very automatic, no git integration and pretty slow (much slower than weblate) but it's open source and funded by Fedora.

- Aha, that sounds interesting. Yes, it would be cool if I could take a look.

Is there any git integration planned? I see there's a script for it in their official repos: https://github.com/zanata/repo-sync

Do you know what would be needed to make it work, and what it would do?...

As you've seen both Weblate and Zanata, what would you say, how do they compare feature-wise?

Maren

The other options are Transifex etc., I can't think of any other worthy project for this task…

Kind regards, YaronShahrabani

<DevOps - Hebrew translator>

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:28 PM Maren Hachmann <maren@...325... mailto:maren@...325...> wrote:

Hi Yaron,

welcome back!

And thanks for exploring Crowdin.

What do you see as their advantages?
I've taken a look at their website, and all I could find was a
proprietary, hosted program, with free plans for open source projects on
request :-(

They don't appear to be open source, as far as I could find.

This looks like it could be a quick-set-up option for interim solutions
for small teams outside of the official Inkscape project, but if it's
meant to be official, it would need to be open source.

Have you also had a look at other translation web interfaces recently?
It's hard to stay up-to-date, we need more eyes :)

This is what I found out about Weblate:

I must admit that the first setup is pretty slow. Filling the database
took 20 minutes for 6 languages out of 90, then I had to break off, it
was getting too late, will try again another day, and maybe not with the
full Inkscape repo, but with inkscape-docs.

They added a lot of control options and also translation memory and
multiple machine translation options since I last had a look.
The translation interface could be more straightforward (the menus - and
especially getting back to where I came from - were confusing).
The functionality seems to be just fine.
It allows discussions, comments, screenshot uploads (you told me about
that previously, but I couldn't take a look then).
Will need to do some more testing when I get my Hackfest Laptop from
Tuxedo (they are going to lend it to me for that time, and are a sponsor
of Kielux).

Do you have any other systems to suggest for testing?

Maren



Am 25.07.2018 um 09:55 schrieb Yaron Shahrabani:
> Hey there, I'm sorry I faded away, I got really hooked up at work.
>
> Anyways, I've tried implementing Crowdin, less overhead, can be easily
> managed (as long as we have only a file or 2), returns back to
> repository, if there are scripts that manage your current Github repo
> (syncing etc.) I can probably use it to create my own setup and
connect
> it to Crowdin, I've tried it before with Gitlab but it was too
much code
> and the repository was closed.
>
> We can play around with my repository and if it works we'll move
it over
> to your repository, I can take ownership if needed, I'm already
doing it
> for several different projects.
> YaronShahrabani
>
>     <DevOps - Hebrew translator>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:02 AM Maren Hachmann
<maren@...325... <mailto:maren@...325...>
> <mailto:maren@...325... <mailto:maren@...325...>>>
wrote:
>
>     Am 23.07.2018 um 19:35 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
>     > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 06:17:34PM +0200, Firas Hanife wrote:
>     >> Hello,
>     >>
>     >> I'm the current Italian translator for Inkscape. In the last
>     years I worked
>     >> alone on the translations, but now I have been contacted by
some
>     users that
>     >> would like to contribute to the translation work.
>     >>
>     >> I created a fork on gitlab for Inkscape:
>     >> https://gitlab.com/FirasH/inkscape
>     >>
>     >> and for Inkscape documentation:
>     >> https://gitlab.com/FirasH/documentation
>     >>
>     >> but I don't know how to configure my fork to do the following:
>     >> 1) keep it up to date with master and 0.92.x except for the
>     translation
>     >> files
>     >>
>     >> I added the original repo as mirrored, but as soon as I
push a commit
>     >> request I get an error due to mismatch between my fork and the
>     original one
>     >> (mirrored).
>     >
>     > Do your work on a branch off your forked version, and that
should
>     avoid
>     > that I think.  Setting it up as a mirror should work ok;
I've done
>     this
>     > in other projects.
>     >
>     > However, I don't think this is a typical workflow that
translators
>     use,
>     > so hopefully they can share some other approaches that might
work
>     better
>     > for you.  For code development, many people craft their
branch off the
>     > main Inkscape repo rather than off their own mirror; this
tends to be
>     > simpler to set up, and (I think?) easier to send merge
requests from.
>     > But again the translation team can probably give you more
practical
>     > advice for your particular need.
>
>     Hi Firas,
>
>     great that you found some support for helping with Italian
(does it have
>     to do with someone from the English Inkscape forums asking on the
>     Italian Inkscape forums? I remember suggesting it, but haven't
heard if
>     there were any reactions.)!
>
>     For German, we have an even more manual setup, see
>     https://github.com/Ede123/inkscape-localization . The
repository only
>     contains our own po files and not much else - that's why it also
>     requires a lot of manual work.
>
>     I think one of the reasons for having it in a separate repo
was that
>     then we can discuss (in German) without annoying devs with it
(they
>     probably already get a headache from all my posts...).
>
>     Some time ago, Yaron suggested using Weblate, but then we were
in need
>     of someone who would want to be responsible, and discussion
subsided. As
>     it's django-based, I was just playing around with it a bit
this evening
>     locally. It seems a bit slow, from their demo page (and
locally, too),
>     but I'll play with it a bit more. Maybe we can some day set up an
>     instance of it on one of the virtual hosts on cloudscale, and
have it
>     automatically push translation changes to a branch on gitlab.
>
>     Maren
>
>
>
>     > Bryce
>     >
>     >> 2) keep the "names" of the people who contributed to my fork in
>     the commits
>     >> (that I will review, then create a merge request)
>     >>
>     >> Thanks in advance,
>     >> Firas
>     >
>     >>
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