Re: [Inkscape-translator] Inkscape-translator Digest, Vol 66, Issue 7
Hello everybody,
Yes I could help on french translation.
Best regards, alain
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1. Re: Website translation updates (Maren Hachmann) 2. Re: Website translation updates (Victor Westmann)
Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:24:29 +0100 From: Maren Hachmann <maren@...325...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-translator] Website translation updates To: translators inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <54BE813D.1050208@...325...> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi Victor,
the news translation is really the easiest way to translate something on the website, as it doesn't have all those plugins and stuff. It would have been a really good beginner's job ;)
- The updated FAQ is currently not yet on the real website, but you can
start translating to pt-br at staging.inkscape.org instead (choose any language you like for filling it in), and copy over later (there are only very few link plugins, so copying will be possible without very much hassle). Much of it is already translated, as the new FAQ also contains parts from the old FAQ, and Duarte has already invested a lot of work into translating the old FAQ.
The English new FAQ is here: http://staging.inkscape.org/en/brynns-user-faq/ . Duarte's translation of the old FAQ is here: https://inkscape.org/pt/aprender/perguntas-frequentes
Always make sure that you do *not edit the English FAQ* by looking at the url! (In fact, please don't edit any page starting with 'brynn...' in English.)
Also make sure you have a backup of the source from your translation of the FAQ on your own computer, as on staging, people practice, and they may accidentally change your work.
You will also need an account on staging.inkscape.org for this, and some permissions. I need to know your username there so I can grant you permissions on staging.
- The official tutorials for Inkscape are translated in the inkscape
trunk, ask Nicolas Dufour (jazzynico) about this (I think you have already contacted him earlier). For the next release, though, this may be too late. Bryce Harrington wrote something about next week...
- The fixed parts of the site can be translated from the files for the
website at launchpad. I will append a current po file to this message, BUT:
- the file currently contains too many entries (for many of those,
translations do already exist, but are not automatically added to the file)
- the contents of the file is still changing heavily
- there is a better system for translating those on the way, but not yet
fully implemented.
So you *can* work on it, but:
- we may not need everything, because some of it already is translated
- it will still change
- there will be a better way for doing this soon
All in all, I think Duarte's suggestion of starting with the news (after you have practiced on staging) is really a very good idea ;)
Regards, Maren
PS: I had to remove the attachment, because the mailing-list refused to accept it. Contact me directly, if you want the .po file ;)
Am 20.01.2015 um 16:39 schrieb Victor Westmann:
How can I start translating fixed parts of the site?
Not very much interested in the news right now. But in the FAQ and maybe tutorials. :)
Cheers from Brazil.
--Victor Westmann
2015-01-19 23:55 GMT-02:00 Duarte Ramos <duarte.framos@...5... mailto:duarte.framos@...5...>:
Thank you very much for the explanation, Portuguese Downloads page updated. Also fixed all the links and reconnected them back to the CMS plugin so it can be correctly copied as base again. On a side note, if Pablo, Victor are full of energy and want to help out lets not waste human power. :) While the site update doesn't go live and they can't start translating the BR version maybe they can help with the PT one. If they are available they could start out with the "news" section and help translate the latest 2014 and 2015 news since they are generally smaller content and easy to start with . I was saving them for last but it's probably gonna take me a while o get there and that way when the Brazilian site goes live those can be ported there and no effort is wasted. Eventually after that happens I'll then update the PT news if needed. Thanks again, Duarte On 20-01-2015 01:32, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi Duarte, > > plugin links cannot be copied directly by going to the source and using > Ctrl+V and then pasting them. > > They have unique ids and can't be used on different pages, especially if > their contents changes. > > You may want to translate the link's text ;) - but if it is the same > object with the same id in the database, you would also change the > original link's text, this is prevented by cleaning them out in > published pages. > > So, you need to copy the text from English by copying from the page > directly (not from source, but from the 'real' page) into the > non-source-mode editor window. This will magically insert the contents > in a formatted way. > > Then, if you want to turn the link into a plugin again (which may be > useful if other people want to copy your page completely as a start for > their own translation, because in that case, the plugins are *really* > duplicated, with their new, own id): > > 1.) right-click on the link in the editor to select > 2.) choose 'edit' to be able to copy the target > 3.) Select CMS plugin -> Link > 4.) add http:// or https:// manually, paste target behind > 5.) Save > > Hope this helps, please ask back if my explanation wasn't clear enough. > > Regards, > Maren > > Am 20.01.2015 um 01:53 schrieb Duarte Ramos: >> No problem I misread too, I am currently using the pre release 3, I >> must have misread and thought it was the official 0.91. >> >> I still can't copy the plugins but I have got another weird issue. I >> just updated the downloads page with the part about pre4. Manually >> copied the updated text from the from the English page and translated >> all strings, but whenever I hit publish the text with links simply >> vanishes. If I edit the page again translated text displays fine >> again, but on the published version the links are removed. >> >
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:27:44 -0200 From: Victor Westmann <victor.westmann@...5...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-translator] Website translation updates To: Maren Hachmann <maren@...325...> Cc: translators inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <CAPOH7=aj8LcMLKBckUSGZM7G-NuFuvemzPTaLSU_j_KOx-10FQ@...6...> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Maren,
I have bought the full version of PoEdit to help the developer of the app. Will it help me on this work then? If the file I`ll have to work will be a po file? :)
--Victor Westmann
2015-01-20 14:24 GMT-02:00 Maren Hachmann <maren@...325...>:
Hi Victor,
the news translation is really the easiest way to translate something on the website, as it doesn't have all those plugins and stuff. It would have been a really good beginner's job ;)
- The updated FAQ is currently not yet on the real website, but you can
start translating to pt-br at staging.inkscape.org instead (choose any language you like for filling it in), and copy over later (there are only very few link plugins, so copying will be possible without very much hassle). Much of it is already translated, as the new FAQ also contains parts from the old FAQ, and Duarte has already invested a lot of work into translating the old FAQ.
The English new FAQ is here: http://staging.inkscape.org/en/brynns-user-faq/ . Duarte's translation of the old FAQ is here: https://inkscape.org/pt/aprender/perguntas-frequentes
Always make sure that you do *not edit the English FAQ* by looking at the url! (In fact, please don't edit any page starting with 'brynn...' in English.)
Also make sure you have a backup of the source from your translation of the FAQ on your own computer, as on staging, people practice, and they may accidentally change your work.
You will also need an account on staging.inkscape.org for this, and some permissions. I need to know your username there so I can grant you permissions on staging.
- The official tutorials for Inkscape are translated in the inkscape
trunk, ask Nicolas Dufour (jazzynico) about this (I think you have already contacted him earlier). For the next release, though, this may be too late. Bryce Harrington wrote something about next week...
- The fixed parts of the site can be translated from the files for the
website at launchpad. I will append a current po file to this message, BUT:
- the file currently contains too many entries (for many of those,
translations do already exist, but are not automatically added to the file)
- the contents of the file is still changing heavily
- there is a better system for translating those on the way, but not yet
fully implemented.
So you *can* work on it, but:
- we may not need everything, because some of it already is translated
- it will still change
- there will be a better way for doing this soon
All in all, I think Duarte's suggestion of starting with the news (after you have practiced on staging) is really a very good idea ;)
Regards, Maren
PS: I had to remove the attachment, because the mailing-list refused to accept it. Contact me directly, if you want the .po file ;)
Am 20.01.2015 um 16:39 schrieb Victor Westmann:
How can I start translating fixed parts of the site?
Not very much interested in the news right now. But in the FAQ and maybe tutorials. :)
Cheers from Brazil.
--Victor Westmann
2015-01-19 23:55 GMT-02:00 Duarte Ramos <duarte.framos@...5... mailto:duarte.framos@...5...>:
Thank you very much for the explanation, Portuguese Downloads page updated. Also fixed all the links and reconnected them back to theCMS
plugin so it can be correctly copied as base again. On a side note, if Pablo, Victor are full of energy and want to help out lets not waste human power. :) While the site update doesn't go live and they can't starttranslating
the BR version maybe they can help with the PT one. If they are available they could start out with the "news" section and help translate the latest 2014 and 2015 news since they are generally smaller content and easy to start with . I was saving them for last but it's probably gonna take me a while o get there and that way when the Brazilian site goes live those can be ported there and no effort is wasted. Eventually after that happens I'll then update the PT news if needed. Thanks again, Duarte On 20-01-2015 01:32, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi Duarte, > > plugin links cannot be copied directly by going to the source and using > Ctrl+V and then pasting them. > > They have unique ids and can't be used on different pages, especially if > their contents changes. > > You may want to translate the link's text ;) - but if it is thesame
> object with the same id in the database, you would also change the > original link's text, this is prevented by cleaning them out in > published pages. > > So, you need to copy the text from English by copying from the page > directly (not from source, but from the 'real' page) into the > non-source-mode editor window. This will magically insert the contents > in a formatted way. > > Then, if you want to turn the link into a plugin again (which maybe
> useful if other people want to copy your page completely as a start for > their own translation, because in that case, the plugins are *really* > duplicated, with their new, own id): > > 1.) right-click on the link in the editor to select > 2.) choose 'edit' to be able to copy the target > 3.) Select CMS plugin -> Link > 4.) add http:// or https:// manually, paste target behind > 5.) Save > > Hope this helps, please ask back if my explanation wasn't clear enough. > > Regards, > Maren > > Am 20.01.2015 um 01:53 schrieb Duarte Ramos: >> No problem I misread too, I am currently using the pre release 3,I
>> must have misread and thought it was the official 0.91. >> >> I still can't copy the plugins but I have got another weird issue. I >> just updated the downloads page with the part about pre4. Manually >> copied the updated text from the from the English page and translated >> all strings, but whenever I hit publish the text with links simply >> vanishes. If I edit the page again translated text displays fine >> again, but on the published version the links are removed. >> >
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Hi Alain,
you are very welcome! Do you already have an account at staging.inkscape.org? And one at inkscape.org?
Please read the translator's guide here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite , create an account at staging.inkscape.org, and tell me your username, so you can get the necessary permissions for editing. It's not always straightforward how things work, so it's better you practice by making a new page, editing links, adding / copying pictures and editing an existing page at least once.
For any questions, don't be afraid to ask them here - we know that the current system has some quirks ;)
When you feel familiar with the system and know how to work with the django-cms and the editor, tell us again, and we can adjust your permissions at the real website.
Kind regards + merci beaucoup, Maren
Am 21.01.2015 um 14:36 schrieb aidjai:
Hello everybody,
Yes I could help on french translation.
Best regards, alain
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