From john Culleton Sun Nov  6 15:48:51 2011
From: john Culleton
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Embedding fonts in web svg documents.
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:48:48 -0500
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In most software (e.g., Scribus, TeX) a font can be embedded in the
output document, thus preventing font substitution in a viewer.
In inkscape one can simply outline the text, but that makes the
text not readable by a web crawler. 

Is there a way to actually embed a font in an Inkscape svg
document intended for web use?

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From Jarek Foksa Tue Nov  8 04:26:28 2011
From: Jarek Foksa
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Embedding fonts in web svg documents.
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:27:13 +0100
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Here is how you can embed fonts in SVG documents: (replace <data> with
actuall base64-encoded font data):

<style>
@font-face {
    font-family: "Sample font";
    src: url("data:font/woff;charset=3Dutf-8;base64,<data>");
}
</style>

This technique is already used in Inkscape for embedding PNG images,
it should be very easy to implement a plugin that allows for automatic
font embedding as well.

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 4:48 PM, john Culleton <John(a)...1668...> wrote:
> In most software (e.g., Scribus, TeX) a font can be embedded in the
> output document, thus preventing font substitution in a viewer.
> In inkscape one can simply outline the text, but that makes the
> text not readable by a web crawler.
>
> Is there a way to actually embed a font in an Inkscape svg
> document intended for web use?
>
> --
> John Culleton
> Free list of books for self-publishers:
> http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html
>
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> http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html
>
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From john Culleton Fri Nov 11 15:40:44 2011
From: john Culleton
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Embedding fonts in web svg documents.
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:41:11 -0500
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:27:13 +0100
Jarek Foksa <jarek(a)...2725...> wrote:

> Here is how you can embed fonts in SVG documents: (replace <data> with
> actuall base64-encoded font data):
>=20
> <style>
> @font-face {
>     font-family: "Sample font";
>     src: url("data:font/woff;charset=3Dutf-8;base64,<data>");
> }
> </style>
>=20
> This technique is already used in Inkscape for embedding PNG images,
> it should be very easy to implement a plugin that allows for automatic
> font embedding as well.

I was  not aware of the WOFF font effort! Looks interesting. I am
studying this web page and its children:
http://people.mozilla.com/~jkew/woff/
 I have a 32 bit processor. Can I still use base64 fonts? Or are the two not =
related?=20
--=20
John Culleton
Free list of books for self-publishers:
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From Matt Hines Fri Nov 11 17:03:33 2011
From: Matt Hines
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Embedding fonts in web svg documents.
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:03:25 -0500
Message-ID: <CAEsbL1MsoiP6UsF6-jqAhOQh7yE+Wmu5Tg9=qRcwRUs0ge8SZw@...156...>
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You can also convert the fonts to paths
On Nov 11, 2011 10:42 AM, "john Culleton" <John(a)...1668...> wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:27:13 +0100
> Jarek Foksa <jarek(a)...2725...> wrote:
>
> > Here is how you can embed fonts in SVG documents: (replace <data> with
> > actuall base64-encoded font data):
> >
> > <style>
> > @font-face {
> >     font-family: "Sample font";
> >     src: url("data:font/woff;charset=3Dutf-8;base64,<data>");
> > }
> > </style>
> >
> > This technique is already used in Inkscape for embedding PNG images,
> > it should be very easy to implement a plugin that allows for automatic
> > font embedding as well.
>
> I was  not aware of the WOFF font effort! Looks interesting. I am
> studying this web page and its children:
> http://people.mozilla.com/~jkew/woff/
>  I have a 32 bit processor. Can I still use base64 fonts? Or are the two
> not related?
> --
> John Culleton
> Free list of books for self-publishers:
> http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html
>
> "Create Book Covers with Scribus"
> http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html
>
>
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---
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From Mark Crutch Fri Nov 11 17:36:52 2011
From: Mark Crutch
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Embedding fonts in web svg documents.
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:36:44 +0000
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> I was =C2=A0not aware of the WOFF font effort! Looks interesting. I am
> studying this web page and its children:
> http://people.mozilla.com/~jkew/woff/
> =C2=A0I have a 32 bit processor. Can I still use base64 fonts? Or are the t=
wo not related?

Not related. Base64 is just the name of an encoding method which
allows binary data to be encoded into an ASCII format - in this case
so that it can be embedded directly into an SVG (or HTML) document.

Mark

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From john Culleton Fri Nov 11 20:17:10 2011
From: john Culleton
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Embedding fonts in web svg documents.
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:17:40 -0500
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:03:25 -0500
Matt Hines <matt.0f.h(a)...155...> wrote:

> You can also convert the fonts to paths

Yes, but then I lose the ability of web browsers to read the
text. One of the advantages of the svg web page is that one can
do fancy stuff and still have the text readable and indexable. 
-- 
John Culleton
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From Chris Lilley Tue Nov 22 15:34:59 2011
From: Chris Lilley
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Embedding fonts in web svg documents.
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:52:36 +0100
Message-ID: <1338479289.20111122155236@...214...>
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On Tuesday, November 8, 2011, 4:27:13 AM, Jarek wrote:

JF> Here is how you can embed fonts in SVG documents: (replace <data> with
JF> actuall base64-encoded font data):

JF> <style>
JF> @font-face {
JF>     font-family: "Sample font";
JF>     src: url("data:font/woff;charset=3Dutf-8;base64,<data>");
JF> }
JF> </style>

Note that the media type for woff is application/font-woff
http://www.w3.org/TR/WOFF/#appendix-b

There is not currently a font/* top level type. It would be great if there we=
re; and it may yet happen. But that is the current situation.

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