From Ralph Bolton Wed Aug  3 15:16:59 2005
From: Ralph Bolton
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Complex Shapes, Flowing Text and Justification
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:10:39 -0700
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Hi,

I'm a bit of a newbie to Inkscape, but so far am really impressed. It's
one hell of a product, even though it's not v1.0 yet.

As with all such projects, it's sometimes hard for us newbies to get to
grips with things because of a lack of examples and documentation. Since
I've been struggling for a couple of days, I thought I'd write up how to
create complex shapes, flow text into shapes and get text to be
justified. Clearly, for most users this isn't rocket science, but it
might save another new user a bit of time.

All the fun is at http://www.coofercat.com/wiki/InkScape (including,
importantly, an SVG example).

If the Inkscape community wants to use my example for anything, then by
all means do so. Obviously, correct any mistakes or make improvements
along the way!

Cheers,

...Ralph Bolton=20


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From Ciro Soto Wed Aug  3 17:09:40 2005
From: Ciro Soto
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:09:36 -0400
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I wonder if any in the group has used a wacom table with Inkscape in a
lunix environment.
Any feedback?

thank you
Ciro


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From ronaldMolina Wed Aug  3 17:14:37 2005
From: ronaldMolina
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:14:29 -0500
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I´m going to try it when I buy mine in a month or
something....then I´ll send some info about it

 --- Ciro Soto <cirosoto(a)...155...> escribió:

> I wonder if any in the group has used a wacom table
> with Inkscape in a
> lunix environment.
> Any feedback?
> 
> thank you
> Ciro
> 
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From Alexandre Prokoudine Wed Aug  3 17:22:36 2005
From: Alexandre Prokoudine
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 04:22:25 +0400
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On 8/4/05, Ciro Soto <cirosoto(a)...155...> wrote:
> I wonder if any in the group has used a wacom table with Inkscape in a
> lunix environment.
> Any feedback?

Wacom Graphire3 works perfectly with Inkscape. Only as a generic
pointing device. Pressure sensitivity and other stuff is not supported
yet. AFAIR it needs creating a new instrument with some known
underlying math algorithms. This will be implemented one day.

Alexandre


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From Jean-Francois Lemaire Wed Aug  3 22:22:17 2005
From: Jean-Francois Lemaire
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:21:52 +0200
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On Thursday 4 August 2005 02:09, Ciro Soto wrote:
> I wonder if any in the group has used a wacom table with Inkscape in
> a lunix environment.
> Any feedback?

Using one everyday at work (Serial Intuos) and at home (USB Graphire3). 
A bit of a pain to set up but works great anyway.

Jef


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From Jean-Francois Lemaire Wed Aug  3 22:24:49 2005
From: Jean-Francois Lemaire
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:24:28 +0200
Message-ID: <200508040724.28864.jflemaire@...299...>
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On Thursday 4 August 2005 02:22, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On 8/4/05, Ciro Soto <cirosoto(a)...155...> wrote:
> > I wonder if any in the group has used a wacom table with Inkscape
> > in a lunix environment.
> > Any feedback?
>
> Wacom Graphire3 works perfectly with Inkscape. Only as a generic
> pointing device. Pressure sensitivity and other stuff is not
> supported yet. AFAIR it needs creating a new instrument with some
> known underlying math algorithms. This will be implemented one day.

Thanks for the information regarding the Graphire3. I thought it was me 
screwing things up :-)


Jef


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From Kevin Wixson Wed Aug  3 22:44:48 2005
From: Kevin Wixson
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Complex Shapes, Flowing Text and Justification
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:44:22 -0400
Message-ID: <42F1AB36.7000900@...518...>
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By the way, I just got to documenting the Boolean Operations for users,=20
so if you have any input, now's a good time to mention it -- while I'm=20
thinking about it.

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/kevincharles/inkscape/p7c4.html

Speaking of documentation, the developers might be interested to know=20
that the .42 release marked a major spike in traffic to the=20
documentation-in-progress I'm making, and has resulted in sustained=20
increase of traffic of three times what it was before the new version.

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/kevincharles/inkscape/stats.html

Cheers,
-Kevin

Ralph Bolton wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm a bit of a newbie to Inkscape, but so far am really impressed.=20
> It's one hell of a product, even though it's not v1.0 yet.
>
> As with all such projects, it's sometimes hard for us newbies to get=20
> to grips with things because of a lack of examples and documentation.=20
> Since I've been struggling for a couple of days, I thought I'd write=20
> up how to create complex shapes, flow text into shapes and get text to=20
> be justified. Clearly, for most users this isn't rocket science, but=20
> it might save another new user a bit of time.
>
> All the fun is at http://www.coofercat.com/wiki/InkScape (including,=20
> importantly, an SVG example).
>
> If the Inkscape community wants to use my example for anything, then=20
> by all means do so. Obviously, correct any mistakes or make=20
> improvements along the way!
>
> Cheers,
>
> ...Ralph Bolton
>
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From Alexandre Prokoudine Thu Aug  4 02:51:02 2005
From: Alexandre Prokoudine
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Complex Shapes, Flowing Text and Justification
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:51:00 +0400
Message-ID: <733f2c730508040251fe47c44@...156...>
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On 8/4/05, Kevin Wixson <kevin(a)...518...> wrote:

> Speaking of documentation, the developers might be interested to know
> that the .42 release marked a major spike in traffic to the
> documentation-in-progress I'm making, and has resulted in sustained
> increase of traffic of three times what it was before the new version.

Yup. I could never understand why so little attention was paid to your work.

Alexandre


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From Ralf Stephan Thu Aug  4 02:55:11 2005
From: Ralf Stephan
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Complex Shapes, Flowing Text and Justification
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:03:54 +0200
Message-ID: <20050804080354.GB7844@...527...>
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Ralph,
You are welcome to please add your tutorial link to the inkscape wiki pages.

Regards,
ralf



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From David Bolack Thu Aug  4 12:49:41 2005
From: David Bolack
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:29 -0400
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On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 07:24 +0200, Jean-Francois Lemaire wrote:
> Thanks for the information regarding the Graphire3. I thought it was me 
> screwing things up :-)

 We also have a Grpahire 3 and it was literally plug and play on FC3.
But again, as a generic device.  
-- 
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From Ciro Soto Thu Aug  4 14:32:25 2005
From: Ciro Soto
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:32:16 -0400
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Some have said you install it
"as a Generic device" .... meaning what? 
Can't I use thicker lines, colors, etc?
or is it that I ONLY lose the 'pressure sensitive" feature?

ciro


On 8/4/05, David Bolack <dbolack(a)...940...> wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 07:24 +0200, Jean-Francois Lemaire wrote:
> > Thanks for the information regarding the Graphire3. I thought it was me
> > screwing things up :-)
> 
>  We also have a Grpahire 3 and it was literally plug and play on FC3.
> But again, as a generic device.
> --
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> 
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From Alexandre Prokoudine Thu Aug  4 14:43:59 2005
From: Alexandre Prokoudine
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 01:42:45 +0400
Message-ID: <733f2c730508041442280b83c0@...156...>
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On 8/5/05, Ciro Soto <cirosoto(a)...155...> wrote:
> Some have said you install it
> "as a Generic device" .... meaning what?
> Can't I use thicker lines, colors, etc?
> or is it that I ONLY lose the 'pressure sensitive" feature

It means that in Inkscape wacom is equivalent to a simple mouse
feature-wise. The only two opensource graphics tools that support
pressure sensitivity and other typical wacom features are The GIMP and
Krita.

Alexandre


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From Jean-Francois Lemaire Fri Aug  5 04:35:48 2005
From: Jean-Francois Lemaire
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:35:21 +0200
Message-ID: <200508051335.21186.jflemaire@...299...>
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On Thursday 4 August 2005 23:42, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On 8/5/05, Ciro Soto <cirosoto(a)...155...> wrote:
> > Some have said you install it
> > "as a Generic device" .... meaning what?

> It means that in Inkscape wacom is equivalent to a simple mouse
> feature-wise. The only two opensource graphics tools that support
> pressure sensitivity and other typical wacom features are The GIMP
> and Krita.

The Graphire3 works only as a "generic device" with those two also. I 
suppose that's what the other posters in this thread are saying.

Jef


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From Alexandre Prokoudine Fri Aug  5 04:42:41 2005
From: Alexandre Prokoudine
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:42:32 +0400
Message-ID: <733f2c730508050442fa50308@...156...>
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On 8/5/05, Jean-Francois Lemaire <jflemaire(a)...299...> wrote:
> > It means that in Inkscape wacom is equivalent to a simple mouse
> > feature-wise. The only two opensource graphics tools that support
> > pressure sensitivity and other typical wacom features are The GIMP
> > and Krita.
> 
> The Graphire3 works only as a "generic device" with those two also.

Wrong

> I suppose that's what the other posters in this thread are saying.

No

Alexandre


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From Jean-Francois Lemaire Fri Aug  5 05:32:25 2005
From: Jean-Francois Lemaire
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:32:04 +0200
Message-ID: <200508051432.04458.jflemaire@...299...>
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On Friday 5 August 2005 13:42, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On 8/5/05, Jean-Francois Lemaire <jflemaire(a)...299...> wrote:
> > > It means that in Inkscape wacom is equivalent to a simple mouse
> > > feature-wise. The only two opensource graphics tools that support
> > > pressure sensitivity and other typical wacom features are The
> > > GIMP and Krita.
> >
> > The Graphire3 works only as a "generic device" with those two also.
>
> Wrong

Then I've got a problem that I'll have to investigate.

Jef


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From Alexandre Prokoudine Fri Aug  5 07:14:45 2005
From: Alexandre Prokoudine
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:14:36 +0400
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On 8/5/05, Jean-Francois Lemaire <jflemaire(a)...299...> wrote:
> On Friday 5 August 2005 13:42, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> > On 8/5/05, Jean-Francois Lemaire <jflemaire(a)...299...> wrote:
> > > > It means that in Inkscape wacom is equivalent to a simple mouse
> > > > feature-wise. The only two opensource graphics tools that support
> > > > pressure sensitivity and other typical wacom features are The
> > > > GIMP and Krita.
> > >
> > > The Graphire3 works only as a "generic device" with those two also.
> >
> > Wrong
> 
> Then I've got a problem that I'll have to investigate.

http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/main

Alexandre


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From Alexandre Prokoudine Fri Aug  5 07:17:02 2005
From: Alexandre Prokoudine
To: inkscape-user@lists.inkscape.org
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] wacom table
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:16:55 +0400
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On 8/5/05, Jean-Francois Lemaire <jflemaire(a)...299...> wrote:
> On Friday 5 August 2005 13:42, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> > On 8/5/05, Jean-Francois Lemaire <jflemaire(a)...299...> wrote:
> > > > It means that in Inkscape wacom is equivalent to a simple mouse
> > > > feature-wise. The only two opensource graphics tools that support
> > > > pressure sensitivity and other typical wacom features are The
> > > > GIMP and Krita.
> > >
> > > The Graphire3 works only as a "generic device" with those two also.
> >
> > Wrong
> 
> Then I've got a problem that I'll have to investigate.

btw, just to make sure - you can use callygraphic pen in Inkscapem
which gives you thicker/thiner line depending on how fast you move the
cursor

Alexandre


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