On 8/26/14 6:25 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:02:54 -0600 Ken Springer <snowshed1@...3003...> wrote:
On 8/26/14 3:53 PM, Chris Mohler wrote:
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I find the opposite. I have InDesign 2014 and it's impossible for me to overstate how much I loathe booting into Win7 to use it.
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These days, though, most people who use computers don't want to have to do things outside the program they are using. I'd wager most don't know how, and don't want to have to go through those extra steps. In fact, my friend is downright pi$$ed it doesn't export jpg, which arguably is probably the most common file format out there for graphics. And for her use, and my usual uses, jpg is the better choice.
Myself, I'll do it, but I don't like doing it anymore. I simply want to get the job done as fast as I can. By fast, that means eliminating any other needed steps of other software when I know some software will do it for me.
I think I've come late to the party, but why would one want to export to jpg? Is she going to touch it up with Gimp to make it less vectorish? Is she putting it into some kind of document that can use .jpg but not .svg or .png? (who does that anymore?)
At the bottom line, it has to be compatible with the software other users in the company have. In this case MS Office 2010, which doesn't understand .svg. Yesterday, she couldn't get .png to work but today it worked fine. I suspect the frustration level was so high, she made some kind of mistake. So .png is going to work too.
You always should consider the people who receive your file may not be using the latest and greatest software from anybody. JPG has been around longer than SVG and PNG, so the likelihood of problems with JPGs is less.
As I wrote in another post, the only real advantage we found of PNG over JPG is lossless file format and transparency. Neither of which is a consideration in this case. And there other ancillary issues regarding the file size, such as internet speed. Believe it or not, for the company she works for, her connection to the company's computers just 7 miles away goes halfway around the world to Paris, France. Unbelievable, isn't it?
I really pushed her to use a scalable file format so she could resize as necessary. But when the import issue came up with MS Publisher, it's Plan B, a bitmapped export became the answer. She's also used some Inkscape's features the don't convert, either.
On a personal level, we both detest wasting hard drive space for something that gives us nothing in return.
It's gotten to the point where all my diagrams are .svg now. It's smaller, it scales better, and every browser made in the past 5 years can handle it. The .svg format is the preferred ePub image format. About the only thing I can think of that can't handle .svg is TeX and friends.
I've got a project, moving glacially slow, that needs diagrams. Giving Dia List a try for that. Years ago I used SmartDraw, but the diagram needs are simple so SmartDraw is overkill.
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I really would like to try Linux. On the computer I built, I even left space on the boot drive to install Linux some day. But time is a factor, I have none. LOL So, those extra steps you don't mind doing keeps me just further away from the opportunity to try Linux.
Ahhhh, nowwww I understand the context of what you were saying about having one program do it and not having to use multiple programs. Before I used Linux, I felt the exact same way.
But that won't help with my time issue. LOL
You should try Linux. It changed my whole perspective about computing. Maybe it will do the same for you. You might develop a love for Inkscape's --export-plain-svg and --export-pdf and the like. I'd suggest you join a Linux User Group. If you don't know of one you can start with mine, GoLUG.org. You don't need to live in Central Florida.
There used to be one nearby, but about 5 months after I joined, it went away. :-(
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