And it is just that what I most dislike about that DE... I don't hate it as such, and I really like it, but the amount of clutter is simply too much.Thanks, Donn! OK... So I want to map the "Windows" key to "meta" (or something like that), but what do I map to the Alt key? Does it matter?You know, I thought it would be easy to tell you how to do it. I use Kubuntu (KDE) and I have just spent 10 minutes going through the kcontrol and I cannot find where I set the Win key. There is such a confusing number of keyboard options (most under Regional and Access.) that your best bet is just to wade in and try stuff. Sorry 'bout that. /d