Brynn/CR:

I agree with you 100%.  I can still remember when I first used it; it was
so frustrating!  It did not preform like you think it would.  I also was just trying
to use the eraser, but it did not erase part of the image like I thought it would.
If I had a lot of extra money, I would probably just start using Adobe's Illustrator.
Ken 

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:48 AM C R <cajhne@...155...> wrote:
The problem is there is no agreed upon solution. But I think Inkscape should never draw an invisible object anyway. 

Particularly,

1. If both fill and stroke are set to none, Inkscape should resort to the Inkscape default setting of the bezier tool, which is black and white without dashed lines. Drawing an invisible shape is an error. 

2. If the user modifies the line width, and the line is set to "none", Inkscape should set the colour of the line to the Inkscape default : black. 

I think this is a better solution than setting the default behaviour of Inkscape to a bad workflow - users should not be getting used to having to change the colour of the line and stroke each and every time they draw something. It is not intuitive because when you draw in real life you pick up a pen which is the colour you want and draw with it until you are done, then choose another colour when you want a different one. 


-C

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 07:59 K B, <kmb999@...155...> wrote:
Hi, Brynn:  
Thank you for the Link about the Bug fix.  Since Inkscape is free, maybe the creators
are not very motivated to fix everything about  it ?

If it were a high price program like Adobe Illustrator, there would have enough money to
pay programmers to fix it and make it better. 

Ken

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:47 PM brynn <brynn@...3089...> wrote:
Some developers may remember a message I posted to the mailing lists some time
ago, maybe a year or 2 ago, asking to have at least some of the tools set for
Own Style (by default) rather than Last Used, to prevent this kind of utter
confusion among new users.

At first, on the mailing list, some developers sort of hijacked it into their
own different project.

But ultimately (in a bug report) one developer suggested a reasonable solution.
See this bug report:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1704777

If anyone else (developers) could chime in on that solution, perhaps we could
get it coded into one of the next new versions, and prevent this type of
headache for new users?

Thank you very much,
brynn

-----Original Message-----
From: K B
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:30 PM
To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating


All I want to do to begin with is draw a simple Line Circle. (white background
with white inside the circle).

But instead it draws a dashed-rectangle with (4) little squares.  Two squares
are on the rectangle and the other two are outside.  So, I go into: Edit,
Preferences and the Circle it not even listed under Shapes!   Crazy.

Does anybody know what I should do?

Thank you.

Ken





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