Hi Stephane,

If you have a pen drawn. That is a set of objects, could be paths, rectangles, circles, whatever. You can group those objects so that you can move them or scale them all at once. When an object is grouped, you can also change the groups common opacity (transparency) as a group.  Grouping a set of objects doesn't destroy those separate objects, you can always ungroup them to get the separate objects again. With grouping, the objects don't lose their own colours or patterns.

Same as above with the newspaper. It should be grouped so that all it's component objects move and scale together, but they don't lose their colours or patterns.

So both grouped objects should be fully opaque (opacity of each grouped object should be set at 100). Sorry I made a mistake in my first reply in saying zero instead of 100.

Now you should be able to just drag the group of objects that make up the pen, right overtop of the newspaper object. Objects in Inkscape have a 'z-level'. So your pen *might* be behind or under your newspaper. If this is the case, you can select the newspaper group of objects and press pageDown to lower it below the pen or select the pen object and hit pageUp to raise it up.

Hope that clears things up.

RQ


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Stéphane ANCELOT <sancelot@...206...> wrote:


Richard Querin a écrit :
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Stéphane ANCELOT <sancelot@...206...
> <mailto:sancelot@...206...>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>     I am able to make some nice drawing.Great!
>     I have 2 grouped objects I want to superpose, but without the
>     transparence.
>     I want to overlap it (like a normal ms paint program would) .
>      However I
>     tried using paths ... with these grouped objects and do not manage
>     to do it.
>     What is the way to accomplish this ?
>
>
> I'm not entirely clear on exactly what you want to do. If you have two
> objects with their opacity set to zero, you should be able to overlap
> them just as in any paint program.
my objects are a newspaper and a pen.I want to set the pen on the
newspaper I have drawn both objects using paths,colors , etc and to make
2 single objects I grouped together all paths...


If I set opacity to 0 my objects become invisible.
> (Also check the Fill&Stroke dialog box (Ctrl-Shift-F) for each object
> and make sure their alpha channel (the A slider) is set to 100 as
> well). You can control the transparency of the object both by it's
> alpha channel and by it's overall opacity.
same things is happening : object become invisible
>
> If you are trying to join the two objects (and make them one single
> object) you can also overlap them, then select them both and choose
> Path->Union if they are both path objects.
>
Yes, but it tells me object is not a path (this is a group)
> Hope this helps. If you could clarify your question a little bit more
> that would be great. There are several ways you can use objects
> together (union, group, combine) depending on exactly what you're
> trying to achieve.
>
> RQ
>
>
> RQ
>
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