On 16 Nov 2015 6:07 pm, "Brynn" <brynn@...3089...> wrote:

Thanks C R.  I understand what text boxes are for.  But if no text is
entered, and they are deselected, what use are they?  They're hard to
re-select, and you can only select one at a time, afaict.

Maybe you're onto the more relevant issue -- maybe they need to be more
visible.  Visible in outline view is one thing, but maybe they should be
even more visible?  If an empty text box is an object, it ought to be
selectable with Selection tool, imo.  Or at least, when you switch to the
Selection tool, you ought to see the bounding box, etc.

What if they were visible whenever the Text tool is enabled?  Then they
could be used to make layout, like for a newsletter or something?  Plus, if
you accidentally make one, you can see it, and delete it.

Is it worth a feature request?  Or because it's flowed text, and not part of
SVG, maybe it's not worth it at all?

Thanks :-)
brynn

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From: C R
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 10:26 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] empty text boxes


Empty text boxes are useful to flow text into. This can be done
programmatically outside of Inkscape, but it would be handy to do it in
Inkscape too. Any object created in Inkscape should be selectable and
changeable with the interface.
On 13 Nov 2015 4:51 pm, "Brynn" <brynn@...3089...> wrote:

Thanks su_v !
I looked through the related bug reports, and of course I read your answer.
But I'm not clear about this.

Is an empty text box supposed to be a selectable object (selectable in some
ways, not in other ways)?  If so, and if it's not a bug, there must be some
purpose for an empty text box.  What is it?

Thanks again :-)

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From: "su_v" <suv@...2638...>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 8:40 AM
To: <inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] empty text boxes

> On 2015-11-13 11:16 (+0100), Brynn wrote:
>>         I've been working on a series of Inkscape tutorials, using
>> Inkscape
>> to write the tutorials.  So I'm using the Text tool a lot, making regular
>> text....at least *on purpose* making regular text.  But it seems I've
>> made a
>> lot of empty flowed text boxes by accident, which are selectable, even
>> though they don't contain any text.
>>         I'm pretty sure it's happening when I try to highlight selected
>> text
>> and I don't have the mouse in precisely the correct position.  And
>> instead
>> of highlighting text, I've dragged a tiny text box.  But I assumed if I
>> didn't type in it, and left the text box empty, it would not exist as an
>> object.
>
> If the  user drags a text frame with the text tool, and does not enter
> any text, the flowed-text object is indeed created (unlike with regular
> text), and because it is empty (nothing visible on canvas), it cannot be
> selected with tools which select visible objects (select tool on-canvas
> with click or click-drag).
>
> Related bug reports (known issue(s)):
>
> Bug #485269 Invisible and unselectable flow region in image
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/485269
>
> Bug #349602 Textbox is unselectable after text is overflowed by empty
> lines.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/349602
>
>>         When selected via the Tab key, there is no bounding box or
>> scaling
>> handles.  But there is identification on the status bar.  I can't seem to
>> select by dragging a selection box.  But Ctrl A has same behavior --
>> identification on status bar, but no bounding box on the canvas.
>
> This behavior with selecting is as expected, and by itself is not a bug.
>
>
> Regards, V
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