Thinking of it, why does HTML not have a <circle> or a <rect> element?


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...155...> wrote:
Hi Andreas,

Indeed, if SBG is tagged correctly, it is easy for adaptive technology to be able to read it. Tagging involves using the title attribute to label elements. See http://www.viewplustech.com for examples of accessible SVG.

Pranav
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From: Andreas Neumann [mailto:a.neumann@...2251...]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 12:22 PM
To: inkscape-user@...937...sts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] svg for web pages.

 Hi,

 I wouldn't recommend doing an SVG only website.

 But the accessibility of SVG is way better than the one from Flash. The
 one is a binary, frame based format, the other is text-based markup that
 humans, machines, search engines and screen readers can read. I have
 seen screen readers for the blind where Apache Batik was used to make
 SVG charts and maps accessible to the blind and visually impaired by
 providing tactile and acoustic feedback.

 True - SVG screenreaders are not yet embedded in browsers by default,
 but if more people would use SVG on the web, it would encourage browser
 developers to improve the accessibility of SVG documents. Technically
 (from a format point of view) there are no accessibility problems with
 SVG - but implementation wise and maybe also from author guidelines
 things could be improved.

 I would use SVG along with HTML, each for its strength. Interactive
 graphics, apps, charts and maps with SVG, documents with lots of text
 and navigation with HTML, backgrounds, gradients and decorations (e.g.
 for bullet lists) can be done in SVG in modern browsers.

 Andreas

 On Fri, 31 May 2013 08:20:11 +0200, Maarten van der Velde wrote:
> An all-SVG site: well, If only for the 'sake of argument' and 'proof
> of concept'... yeah, why not?  Good idea!
>
> But I still don't understand the original question. What do you mean
> with " I am wondering
>  about the use of a site map." → How to build a sitemap in SVG? Or,
> what should be the navigation-structure of the site be?
>
> Or: what CMS supports all-SVG websites :)
>
> ?
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Steve Litt  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 May 2013 17:50:10 -0400
>>
>> john Culleton wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 30 May 2013 17:11:48 -0400
>> > Steve Litt wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Thu, 30 May 2013 08:37:51 -0400
>> > > john Culleton wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I am planning to convert one of my web sites to all-svg. I am
>> > > > wondering about the use of a site map. Is it the same as for
>> an
>> > > > html site (with different names of course)?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > John, are you saying there will be no HTML on your website,
>> only
>> > > SVG?
>> > >
>> > > Why?
>> > >
>> > > SteveT
>> > >
>> > >
>> > Perhaps because it can be done. I built a subdomain and put just
>> an
>> > index.svg file on it and it worked. Now I am not religous about
>> this.
>> > If there is a good reason for using html wrapped around an svg
>> entity
>> > I may do that. Can  you think of a good reason?
>>
>> My main reason is that HTML is good at its job...
>>
>> * Separates meaning from style (via CSS etc)
>> * Very easy to hand code in an editor
>> * Worldwide standard
>>
>> Against that backdrop, what would be the compelling reason to have
>> a
>> website *exclusively* built with SVG? Obviously SVG is good for the
>> images, and for links in the images if that can be done, and video,
>> etc, but I'm not sure why one would forgo the ease and adaptability
>> of
>> HTML.
>>
>> By the way, I'm starting to use SVG images on my websites. Often
>> direct
>> from Inkscape, with the Inkscape metadata still in them. They
>> render
>> well with all my browsers (but I don't use IE). See this:
>>
>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/larrymap/larrymaps.htm [4]
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> SteveT
>>
>> Steve Litt                *
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