RE: [Inkscape-user] Help needed verifying bugs on Win32
Bryce,
I would like to help with the Windows testing of Inkscape. I checked out the bug page on SourceForge. However, it is difficult to determine which bugs are for Windows and which are not. Is there a way we can get a Windows Bub list going. Then we'll try to knock those babies out.
Landon
-----Original Message----- From: inkscape-user-admin@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:inkscape-user-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Bryce Harrington Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:34 PM To: inkscape-devel@...84... Cc: inkscape-user@...84... Subject: [Inkscape-user] Help needed verifying bugs on Win32
We need some Windows users to help us with some of the bugs that have been reported, that don't appear to be present on Linux.
If you're a Windows user, this is really important, because when 0.41 comes out you'll have a more stable tool than you would otherwise. ;-)
Basically, we need you to test out what's described in the bug report and see if you have the same problem, and then add a comment indicating whether or not you could reproduce it.
Any additional information you can provide on these bugs will be helpful. See the Reporting Bugs page on the main website for details.
Go to the Bug Tracker on SourceForge: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604306
Select "Status=Open", "SortBy=Priority/Descending", and test the bugs of priority 9.
If you have a SourceForge account, please log in, so we can contact you if we need you to test something out. Or leave your name or email address if you don't have an account.
Thanks, Bryce
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Up spake Landon Blake:
However, it is difficult to determine which bugs are for Windows and which are not.
Please don't top-post. Replies go at the bottom of the page. You might want to find a mail user agent that doesn't top-post by default. I recommend Sylpheed (http://sf.net/projects/sylpheed-claws).
To answer your question: From the "Group" list box, choose "Win32". Click the "Browse" button to refresh the list.
Trent Buck wrote:
Please don't top-post. Replies go at the bottom of the page.
Is there a specific reason for this? Is it in any guidelines anywhere? I don't want to sound rude, or to be interfering, but for what it's worth, I think telling people exactly how they should format their emails goes a little too far.
Regards, Jon
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Jonathan Leighton wrote:
Trent Buck wrote:
Please don't top-post. Replies go at the bottom of the page.
Is there a specific reason for this? Is it in any guidelines anywhere? I don't want to sound rude, or to be interfering, but for what it's worth, I think telling people exactly how they should format their emails goes a little too far.
yes, is in the basic netiquette.
Because it makes posts hard to follow. Why is that bad? Top posting. What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?
Nicu Buculei wrote:
yes, is in the basic netiquette.
Because it makes posts hard to follow. Why is that bad? Top posting. What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?
I don't want to start a flame war, so this will be the last I say on the subject.
We could argue about the point and purpose and positioning of replies, and where the quotes should go and that could go on and on for as long as we wanted it to, but I don't think that would be helpful. I think it was also an inappropriate place for Trent to raise the issue. That doesn't necessarily mean that I object to him doing so, but starting on a negative in a reply to someone who has freely offered their time to the project is a sure way to put them off.
Up spake Jonathan Leighton:
Please don't top-post. Replies go at the bottom of the page.
Is it in any guidelines anywhere? I don't want to sound rude, or to be interfering, but for what it's worth, I think telling people exactly how they should format their emails goes a little too far.
My intention was informative, not normative. I require neither you nor anyone else to follow this convention, but I would prefer that you be aware of it.
Is there a specific reason for this?
There are two very good reasons: readability and tradition.
English text flows top-to-bottom, and presenting a dialogue with the first line at the top is how it's been done for centuries. Top-posts force readers to jump all over the message to follow the thread, especially in larger messages like <35bhchF4klav2U1@...434...>, when correspondents insert each riposte immediately after the previous argument.
I think it was also an inappropriate place for Trent to raise the issue.
Agreed. In future that part of the message will go to the poster, rather than the list.
Top-post or bottom-post; both work: just don't "in- between post." The issue is simply what is the standard for a given forum. Bottom-posting favours English tradition and the new-comer to the thread; top-posting favours a consistent follower of the thread. Enough.
On 22 Jan 2005 at 3:34, Trent Buck wrote:
Up spake Jonathan Leighton:
Please don't top-post. Replies go at the bottom of the page.
Is it in any guidelines anywhere? I don't want to sound rude, or to be interfering, but for what it's worth, I think telling people exactly how they should format their emails goes a little too far.
My intention was informative, not normative. I require neither you nor anyone else to follow this convention, but I would prefer that you be aware of it.
Is there a specific reason for this?
There are two very good reasons: readability and tradition.
English text flows top-to-bottom, and presenting a dialogue with the first line at the top is how it's been done for centuries. Top-posts force readers to jump all over the message to follow the thread, especially in larger messages like <35bhchF4klav2U1@...434...>, when correspondents insert each riposte immediately after the previous argument.
I think it was also an inappropriate place for Trent to raise the issue.
Agreed. In future that part of the message will go to the poster, rather than the list.
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Robert C. Smith wrote:
Top-post or bottom-post; both work: just don't "in- between post." The issue is simply what is the standard for a given forum. Bottom-posting favours English tradition and the new-comer to the thread; top-posting favours a consistent follower of the thread. Enough.
Sorry, I just sent an in-between post myself in another thread. :-)
Though I do try to keep those to a minimum, sometimes it's the most effective way to address multiple issues.
I think that's probably the main thing for people in these lists. Try to be consistent, avoid getting pedantic, and most of all try to keep communication effective.
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
Robert C. Smith wrote:
Top-post or bottom-post.
I think that's probably the main thing for people in these lists. Try to be consistent, avoid getting pedantic, and most of all try to keep communication effective.
Yes, while we do strive to use standards and conventions, we don't want to get carried away and bent out of shape over dotting every i and crossing every t. ;-)
Due to my job, I've got a lot of exposure to corporate types (aka 'top posters'), so find myself switching back and forth quite often. My general rule is to just follow whatever style the previous poster in the thread did, and leave it at that.
Anyway, I'll underline Jon's point about not getting too pedantic about things; as long as the communication is working, that's all we need. :-)
Bryce
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