[Q] Inklscape on WinXP with Wacom Intuos 3 - slow!
Hi,
I have a Wacom Intuos 3 Graphic Tablet, and I'm trying to use this with Inkscape on WindowsXp.
And it is slow!I Movement of the cursor, without even moving anything, lags behind about 1 second.
I noticed that I have the same problems with .43 and .44, and I'm sure it worked before on .43. I have once done an update of the wacom driver, but I'm not sure when my problems started related to the update time. Sadly I haven't used inkscape quite some time (it woas so painfully slow ;-) . BTW, my current driver version is 4.96-7.
Does anyone know about these problem. And, preferably, what to do about it?
Thinks,
Ingo
On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 17:07 +0200, Ingo Hohmann wrote:
And it is slow!I Movement of the cursor, without even moving anything, lags behind about 1 second.
Does anyone know about these problem. And, preferably, what to do about it?
This is sort of a known problem, although that amount of lag is unusual. Essentially, Inkscape does a lot of work to determine which shape the cursor is over at a given moment for status bar displays cursor shape updates and so forth.
How fast is your machine, and do you see the same behavior when using a regular mouse as opposed to the tablet? If there's a dramatic difference, you may be able to mitigate the problem by reducing the tablet resolution, if that's configurable (less frequent events means it's easier for Inkscape to keep up).
I'm still exploring solutions for making this faster on the Inkscape side (mostly not trying to process EVERY motion event when there are a lot).
-mental
On 8/12/06, MenTaLguY <mental@...32...> wrote:
This is sort of a known problem, although that amount of lag is unusual. Essentially, Inkscape does a lot of work to determine which shape the cursor is over at a given moment for status bar displays cursor shape updates and so forth.
I don't think it's that. The machine must be really slow for that. I ran it on a 400 Mhz system with Win2k and there was no cursor lag, though the rendering was slow (but usable for not too complex images).
On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 13:32 -0300, bulia byak wrote:
I don't think it's that. The machine must be really slow for that. I ran it on a 400 Mhz system with Win2k and there was no cursor lag, though the rendering was slow (but usable for not too complex images).
No, I sometimes experience the cursor lag myself even on this machine (800 MHz G3 running Ubuntu). It's real, though not usually so bad.
If you want to provoke the lag into something like a worst-case scenario, zoom in to 1200%, draw five or six overlapping squiggles which fill the viewport (as separate objects), select one, switch to the node tool and wiggle the mouse around over it without clicking. Once you stop, it'll take many seconds for Inkscape to catch up with you (as evidenced by the motion of the ticks on the rulers).
Of course, it happens to lesser extents under less extreme conditions -- I'm just recommending that procedure so you're sure to see it.
-mental
Thanks for your answer Mental.
On 8/12/06, MenTaLguY <mental@...32...> wrote:
On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 17:07 +0200, Ingo Hohmann wrote:
And it is slow!I Movement of the cursor, without even moving anything, lags behind about 1 second.
Does anyone know about these problem. And, preferably, what to do about it?
This is sort of a known problem, although that amount of lag is unusual. Essentially, Inkscape does a lot of work to determine which shape the cursor is over at a given moment for status bar displays cursor shape updates and so forth.
How fast is your machine,
It's a Pentium 4, 2.53GHz, 512 MB RAM.
and do you see the same behavior when using a regular mouse as opposed to the tablet?
At the moment I don't have another mouse connected, but it's working perfectly with the inbuilt synaptics touch pad.
If there's a dramatic difference, you may be able to mitigate the problem by reducing the tablet resolution, if that's configurable (less frequent events means it's easier for Inkscape to keep up).
It IS dramatic! Fun to use vs. not usable at all ;-) I can try to to find the related settings.
While thinking about it, I know that I have problems with my usb connected peripherals (tablet and keyboard). For example it's not possible to view dvd's while they're connected. I will try to play with this, too.
I'm still exploring solutions for making this faster on the Inkscape side (mostly not trying to process EVERY motion event when there are a lot).
This may help, but it can't be the main problem in my case.
Thanks for your answers, mental and bulia.
Ingo
OK,
I did some more testing. Sepcifically, I normally have the keyboard and the mouse together on a usb hub. Now I removed the tablet and plugged it directly into another of the laptops usb ports. And guess what? It works.
After that I replugged the tablet into the hub. The cursor lag was again noticable, but far from what it was before.
It seems to me, that the way inkscape works exposes a hardware problem at my side. Inkscape is the only app, where I have noticed these problems.
Thank you for your time, and now back to work ;-)
Ingo
Is your USB setup 2.0?
On 8/13/06, Ingo Hohmann <200502.lists@...1976...> wrote:
OK,
I did some more testing. Sepcifically, I normally have the keyboard and the mouse together on a usb hub. Now I removed the tablet and plugged it directly into another of the laptops usb ports. And guess what? It works.
After that I replugged the tablet into the hub. The cursor lag was again noticable, but far from what it was before.
It seems to me, that the way inkscape works exposes a hardware problem at my side. Inkscape is the only app, where I have noticed these problems.
Thank you for your time, and now back to work ;-)
Ingo
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The tablet and keyboard may have been on a USB 1.0 port.
Technical documentation is hardly worth this name for computers these days, so put everything on ports where I didn't get a message telling me, that I've put a 2.0 device into a 1.0 port. This may have left only 1.0 for the rest ;-)
Now that I start thinking about it ... keyboard and especially the tablet, are sending a constant stream, I guess. So having them on a fast port may be preferrable.
Ingo
Is it possible to do a batch transform/scale of a given number of selected images?
The tablet and keyboard may have been on a USB 1.0 port.
Technical documentation is hardly worth this name for computers these days, so put everything on ports where I didn't get a message telling me, that I've put a 2.0 device into a 1.0 port. This may have left only 1.0 for the rest ;-)
Now that I start thinking about it ... keyboard and especially the tablet, are sending a constant stream, I guess. So having them on a fast port may be preferrable.
Ingo
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Hey,
I was trying to find the toggle that tells inkscape to stretch, but without increasing the stoke-size?
Has it moved? I couldn't find it?
thanks, -kt
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I was trying to find the toggle that tells inkscape to stretch, but without increasing the stoke-size?
Has it moved? I couldn't find it?
thanks,
When you have the object-selector arrow selected, it's the fourth icon from the left. It looks like two sideways letter Ls with an arrow underneath.
I feel somewhat sheepish asking this but ...
I want to label an angle with the Greek letter theta. I expected to get it by selecting the Symbol font, but that font doesn't appear in the list of fonts. I must me missing something very simple.
v. 0.44, WinXP
TIA, Gary
Gary escribió:
I feel somewhat sheepish asking this but ...
I want to label an angle with the Greek letter theta. I expected to get it by selecting the Symbol font, but that font doesn't appear in the list of fonts. I must me missing something very simple.
v. 0.44, WinXP
TIA, Gary
The unicode code for this character is 03B8, which you can simply make by typing the number while holding ctrl+alt on Windows® (I believe that's the combination of keys, in Linux it'd be ctrl+shift)
Gary wrote:
I feel somewhat sheepish asking this but ...
I want to label an angle with the Greek letter theta. I expected to get it by selecting the Symbol font, but that font doesn't appear in the list of fonts. I must me missing something very simple.
v. 0.44, WinXP
TIA, Gary
I found one in unicode: x03b8. Is that the "correct" way to get greek letters?
-Gary
Gary wrote:
I found one in unicode: x03b8. Is that the "correct" way to get greek letters?
Not sure about 'correct', but when I need an unusal extended character in Windows, I generally use the Character Map (Start -> Accessories -> System Tools), and select it from whichever font I'm using.
In Windows you can also hold down the Alt key, then type in the decimal Unicode value on the numeric keypad, releasing the Alt key to insert the character, though this doesn't appear to work in Inkscape (yet :) )..
Hope that helps! Brendan
Brendan Quigley wrote:
Gary wrote:
I found one in unicode: x03b8. Is that the "correct" way to get greek letters?
Not sure about 'correct', but when I need an unusal extended character in Windows, I generally use the Character Map (Start -> Accessories -> System Tools), and select it from whichever font I'm using.
In Windows you can also hold down the Alt key, then type in the decimal Unicode value on the numeric keypad, releasing the Alt key to insert the character, though this doesn't appear to work in Inkscape (yet :) )..
Haven't tried that, but Ctrl-U - [unicode value]-[enter] does work. Thanks to all who replied. Everything is fine, and I learned something.
-g
Hope that helps! Brendan
Gary wrote:
Gary wrote:
I feel somewhat sheepish asking this but ...
I want to label an angle with the Greek letter theta. I expected to get it by selecting the Symbol font, but that font doesn't appear in the list of fonts. I must me missing something very simple.
This has popped up on the list a few times before. It seems to be caused by a problem/bug in the font libraries that Inkscape uses. There's not much to do but wait for the library maintainers to fix it, I'm afraid.
Regards, Arnout Standaert
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