On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 boldart@...201... wrote:
Hi everyone... i discover this program not to days ago and I'm very impressed. I thought I'll give it a chance in my screen printing department since we're using coreldraw 5 there (I know it's old). However I found some questions that even google couldn't answer. Perhaps you guys could help. here is the list.
- Can spot colors be defined?
Maybe this is a dumb question on my part but what are 'spot colors'?
- Can I mess with text? (curve it, distort it?)
Stay tuned, you've got excellent timing on this one - Fred has been adding some new 'messing with text' capabilities (text in a shape, text on a curve), and Bulia's mentioned he's going to try to do some rework of the text stuff. This is 0.40 stuff, though, so unless you're using the nightly builds it will be a couple months before it's officially available.
In 0.39 and previous versions, you can do some stuff with text like rotating/skewing it, kerning, and converting it to nodes. Check the tutorials for more info.
- At this point is the software able to print color separations with screen
frequency and angle?
We generally point people to Scribus for printing capabilities. The Scribus folks have put a lot of work into ensuring Inkscape-generated SVG can be imported cleanly.
I had a ton more but I can't seem to remember. I appreciate any help.
Sure, hope this helps.
Bryce
Bryce thanks for the information. I for sure will stay tuned for version 0.40.
The easiest way to explain what spot colors are is with an example:
Let's say I have a logo with purple, green and black. If I were to print spot color separations for this logo I will get three different sheets. One for the green, one for the black and one for the purple. Now if I print the color separations of the same logo using process colors I will get a sheet for cyan, a sheet for magenta, one for black and one for yellow.
I don't know if I made myself clear... probably not, sorry.
You tell me about scribus and I think it is a wonderful piece of software. I use it occasionally to design our company flyers and booklets, however I believe inkscape should be able to handle printing duties by itself 'a la Illustrator' otherwise it wouldn't be able to find a niche within the design industry. It won't be cost-effective for me to design a logo in inkscape and import it to scribus just to replace its colors to spot colors and print color separations.
I hope developers take this in consideration for future releases. If it's worth something I could help with beta-testing in a screen-printing environment. I truly believe this is a niche inkscape should explore, although in our industry (screen-printing) we've had CorelDraw and illustrator for ages these programs are rather expensive and sometimes they could be overwhelming.
Well Bryce. Thanks for replying my post. For sure I'll keep an eye on inkscape.
-----Original Message----- From: inkscape-user-admin@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:inkscape-user-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Bryce Harrington Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:30 PM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Inkscape-user] Spot Colors
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 boldart@...201... wrote:
Hi everyone... i discover this program not to days ago and I'm very
impressed. I
thought I'll give it a chance in my screen printing department since we're
using
coreldraw 5 there (I know it's old). However I found some questions that
even
google couldn't answer. Perhaps you guys could help. here is the list.
- Can spot colors be defined?
Maybe this is a dumb question on my part but what are 'spot colors'?
- Can I mess with text? (curve it, distort it?)
Stay tuned, you've got excellent timing on this one - Fred has been adding some new 'messing with text' capabilities (text in a shape, text
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, The Bold Look wrote:
Let's say I have a logo with purple, green and black. If I were to print spot color separations for this logo I will get three different sheets. One for the green, one for the black and one for the purple. Now if I print the color separations of the same logo using process colors I will get a sheet for cyan, a sheet for magenta, one for black and one for yellow.
Ah, I see, thanks that explains it. So it's another mechanism for handling colors for printing, basically. Gotcha.
You tell me about scribus and I think it is a wonderful piece of software. I use it occasionally to design our company flyers and booklets, however I believe inkscape should be able to handle printing duties by itself 'a la Illustrator' otherwise it wouldn't be able to find a niche within the design industry. It won't be cost-effective for me to design a logo in inkscape and import it to scribus just to replace its colors to spot colors and print color separations. I hope developers take this in consideration for future releases.
Good point. We've got items in the roadmap to look into the color management (along with migrating to LittleCMS), although it's a bit off in the future. Good to hear that you already know about Scribus; afaik that's the best approach for the problem today; I'm certain that this is an area that will improve in the future, just a question of time. :-)
One area you could help on right now is to go through the feature requests, looking especially at items related to printing industry features and add your comments to help flesh out the ideas. And of course add items for other necessary features not already listed.
Thanks, Bryce
Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 boldart@...201... wrote:
Hi everyone... i discover this program not to days ago and I'm very impressed. I thought I'll give it a chance in my screen printing department since we're using coreldraw 5 there (I know it's old). However I found some questions that even google couldn't answer. Perhaps you guys could help. here is the list.
- Can spot colors be defined?
Maybe this is a dumb question on my part but what are 'spot colors'?
Where you specify that some color will be a single precise ink mixed by the printer's shop, etc.
"Pantone 153" is an example. You just print out a separation where all occurances of that color come out as black, then the printer makes a plate and prints using that specifc ink using that plate.
And to answer the original question:
Not really at this point, however that is planned in the general color fixup of Inkscape that has been planned. (The SVG spec does provide hooks for how we can do it, we just need to implement things)
The Bold Look wrote:
I hope developers take this in consideration for future releases. If it's worth something I could help with beta-testing in a screen-printing environment. I truly believe this is a niche inkscape should explore, although in our industry (screen-printing) we've had CorelDraw and illustrator for ages these programs are rather expensive and sometimes they could be overwhelming.
Yes, we are taking things into consideration.
Just to let you know, I did the first part of my career in the multimedia industry, and included consulting for a company that did a lot of printing of different kinds. Color callibration was one thing that I was often involved with.
Spot-color is one thing that I know and will make sure gets in. Another thing is how complex color separations are, and that there is no such thing as a single "CMYK" colorspace.
So... you can take it that you print fellows have an advogate in the develpment team, and won't be overlooked. Of course, as Bryce mentioned, the feature requests are one thing we can use to both gauge end user desire and to ensure we don't overlook aspects as we implement things.
Yes, we are taking things into consideration.
Just to let you know, I did the first part of my career in the multimedia industry, and included consulting for a company that did a lot of printing of different kinds. Color callibration was one thing that I was often involved with.
Spot-color is one thing that I know and will make sure gets in. Another thing is how complex color separations are, and that there is no such thing as a single "CMYK" colorspace.
So... you can take it that you print fellows have an advogate in the develpment team, and won't be overlooked. Of course, as Bryce mentioned, the feature requests are one thing we can use to both gauge end user desire and to ensure we don't overlook aspects as we implement things.
--------------- Jon thanks for your comments on the spot-color plans for Inkscape. I'm pretty sure that Inkscape will become a very powerful software and a perfect alternative to CorelDraw and Illustrator for Linux. I believe the software is perfectly functional as it is, it has complete set of tools and wonderful node editing capabilities (even easier than the aforementioned software), you guys really knew what you were doing there. The learning curve was almost non-existent. I've managed to create some nice logos effortless within minutes, but again since it lacks advanced printing capabilities at this time it cannot be more than a curiosity for me.
I truly believe you guys are doing an excellent job with Inkscape and I for sure will stay tuned for the next release.
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