When is the next version due?

People,
I had trouble building the SVN version - when is the next version with PDF import due?
Thanks,
Phil.

What platform are you on? the windows build had been a bit broken but Bob did a new lib bundle over the weekend and it should be all good now.
On 8/21/07, Phil Rhoades <phil@...2067...> wrote:
People,
I had trouble building the SVN version - when is the next version with PDF import due?
Thanks,
Phil.
Philip Rhoades
Pricom Pty Limited (ACN 003 252 275 ABN 91 003 252 275) GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Fax: +61:(0)2-8221-9599 E-mail: phil@...2067...
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On 21/08/07 18:25:58, john cliff wrote:
What platform are you on? the windows build had been a bit broken but Bob did a new lib bundle over the weekend and it should be all good now.
I can't compile revision: 15884 either. It complains about loads of missing header files when doing the pdfinput part. See attachment.
Thanks, Lynx

lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 21/08/07 18:25:58, john cliff wrote:
What platform are you on? the windows build had been a bit broken but Bob did a new lib bundle over the weekend and it should be all good now.
I can't compile revision: 15884 either. It complains about loads of missing header files when doing the pdfinput part. See attachment.
Thanks, Lynx
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Hi, ..... ---- task : copy : f:/gtk210/python/Scripts to inkscape/python : 3 file(s) copied ---- task : makefile : inkscape/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc ######## EXECUTE COMPLETE #################################################### # BuildTool Completed : 31m 58.078s ####################################################
C:\inscape>svn info URL: https://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/inkscape/inkscape/trunk Repository Root: https://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/inkscape Repository UUID: 79ec4920-5e0a-0410-a93a-b0c7084bcf59 Revision: 15884 Node Kind: directory Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: bryce Last Changed Rev: 15884 Last Changed Date: 2007-08-22 00:04:35 +0800 (Wed, 22 Aug 2007)
Huh?! Mine builds fine??!
Try doing a fresh check out. Get the new gtk210 and MingW package (gtk210-070819-3.7z and mingw-4.2.0-070518.7z).

On 22/08/07 18:43:47, JonY wrote:
lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 21/08/07 18:25:58, john cliff wrote:
Huh?! Mine builds fine??!
Try doing a fresh check out. Get the new gtk210 and MingW package (gtk210-070819-3.7z and mingw-4.2.0-070518.7z).
I have an LFS here with gtk2.10.13. I figured out the missing header files are from libpoppler. libpoppler doesn't install them. Using export CPPFLAGS="-I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/poppler/ -I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/goo" didn't solve the problem fully because Object.h has #include "goo/gtypes.h" in it. How did You install poppler? Do You have a better idea then editing all these local includes to global ones?
Thanks, Lynx

lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 22/08/07 18:43:47, JonY wrote:
lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 21/08/07 18:25:58, john cliff wrote:
Huh?! Mine builds fine??!
Try doing a fresh check out. Get the new gtk210 and MingW package (gtk210-070819-3.7z and mingw-4.2.0-070518.7z).
I have an LFS here with gtk2.10.13. I figured out the missing header files are from libpoppler. libpoppler doesn't install them. Using export CPPFLAGS="-I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/poppler/ -I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/goo" didn't solve the problem fully because Object.h has #include "goo/gtypes.h" in it. How did You install poppler? Do You have a better idea then editing all these local includes to global ones?
Thanks, Lynx
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Hi, ignore this message if duplicate, stupid dial up speed DSL line with giant latency.
LFS? Linux From Scratch?
Wait, are you using MSYS to do a bootstrap? I didn't do that. Get the packages from http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32libs/ instead.
Forgive me if I am wrong but I assumed that from your earlier post that you are building Inkscape from MinGW under Windows. gtk210-070819-3.7z comes with poppler.
Here is what I did:
If you have a locally installed mingw not from modevia, remove it from your path variable. Make sure none of its executables get run, move it to other places if you want. This is important to avoid contamination (eg headers from C:\gtk210 but libs from C:\mingw or C:\msys\1.0\local)
1. unpack gtk210-070819-3.7z to C:\gtk210 2. unpack mingw-4.2.0-070518.7z C:\MingW4 <-- avoids overwriting and contaminating local Mingw install.
3. unpack inkscape snapshot or get svn checkouts. 4. cd into your inkscape source. 6. edit mingwenv.bat so it points to C:\mingw4 instead of C:\mingw. 7. run mingwenv.bat to set up paths. 8. type "g++ buildtool.cpp -o btool" 9. run btool 10. watch build process if you want. 11. new inscape install created in inkscape directory. (another inkscape dir in your source tree.) 12. pack the inkscape dir and upload build. 13. play with new inkscape :-)
Steps 10 onwards are optional. Also if you unpack it to places other than C:, check build.xml and point it to the appropriate dirs and manually add C++ include dirs, somehow, the provided gcc include path is hardcoded and doesn't pick up the C++ headers.
Also, don't know if this applies to you, defining HAVE_STDINT_H or including stdint.h manually is needed for src/inkjar/jar.h. MingW has it but its not defined. You'll know if you get lots of errors regarding inkjar.
Hope that helps.

On 22/08/07 23:53:45, JonY wrote:
lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 22/08/07 18:43:47, JonY wrote:
lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 21/08/07 18:25:58, john cliff wrote:
Huh?! Mine builds fine??!
Try doing a fresh check out. Get the new gtk210 and MingW package (gtk210-070819-3.7z and mingw-4.2.0-070518.7z).
I have an LFS here with gtk2.10.13. I figured out the missing header files are from libpoppler. libpoppler doesn't install them. Using export CPPFLAGS="-I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/poppler/ -I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/goo" didn't solve the problem fully because Object.h has #include "goo/gtypes.h" in it. How did You install poppler? Do You have a better idea then editing all these local includes to global ones?
Hi, ignore this message if duplicate, stupid dial up speed DSL line with giant latency.
LFS? Linux From Scratch?
Yes, no M$ windows at all...
Wait, are you using MSYS to do a bootstrap? I didn't do that. Get the packages from http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32libs/ instead.
Forgive me if I am wrong but I assumed that from your earlier post that you are building Inkscape from MinGW under Windows. gtk210-070819-3.7z comes with poppler.
I fear this misunderstandig might come from the fact, that I didn't start this thread but only agreed to a post where unsuccessful build of svn was mentioned. I'm sorry for that. I don't have the post I replied to any more.
So to make things clear:
I have a linux from scratch. gtk 2.10.13, poppler-0.5.91. svn inkscape Revision: 15884. I do ./autogen.sh; configure; make. Configure is happy with my system and also with my poppler-0.5.91. poppler-0.5.91 has the header files that can't be found during inkscape make but these seem to be headers only for compilation of poppler or poppler at least does not install them. Telling inkscape configure about the sources of poppler helps but then the make gets stuck because some includes in the poppler-headers are local ones which then of course don't resove. I couldn't find any hint about some special poppler install in the docs but as it is brand new developpment docs are often behind. I just wonder if and how someone made a complete make with poppler used with current svn so far?
Sorry for the confusion. Lynx

On Wednesday 22 August 2007, lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 22/08/07 23:53:45, JonY wrote:
lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 22/08/07 18:43:47, JonY wrote:
lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 21/08/07 18:25:58, john cliff wrote:
Huh?! Mine builds fine??!
Try doing a fresh check out. Get the new gtk210 and MingW package (gtk210-070819-3.7z and mingw-4.2.0-070518.7z).
I have an LFS here with gtk2.10.13. I figured out the missing header files are from libpoppler. libpoppler doesn't install them. Using export CPPFLAGS="-I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/poppler/ -I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/goo" didn't solve the problem fully because Object.h has #include "goo/gtypes.h" in it. How did You install poppler? Do You have a better idea then editing all these local includes to global ones?
Hi, ignore this message if duplicate, stupid dial up speed DSL line with giant latency.
LFS? Linux From Scratch?
Yes, no M$ windows at all...
Wait, are you using MSYS to do a bootstrap? I didn't do that. Get the packages from http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32libs/ instead.
Forgive me if I am wrong but I assumed that from your earlier post that you are building Inkscape from MinGW under Windows. gtk210-070819-3.7z comes with poppler.
I fear this misunderstandig might come from the fact, that I didn't start this thread but only agreed to a post where unsuccessful build of svn was mentioned. I'm sorry for that. I don't have the post I replied to any more.
So to make things clear:
I have a linux from scratch. gtk 2.10.13, poppler-0.5.91. svn inkscape Revision: 15884. I do ./autogen.sh; configure; make. Configure is happy with my system and also with my poppler-0.5.91. poppler-0.5.91 has the header files that can't be found during inkscape make but these seem to be headers only for compilation of poppler or poppler at least does not install them. Telling inkscape configure about the sources of poppler helps but then the make gets stuck because some includes in the poppler-headers are local ones which then of course don't resove. I couldn't find any hint about some special poppler install in the docs but as it is brand new developpment docs are often behind. I just wonder if and how someone made a complete make with poppler used with current svn so far?
Sorry for the confusion. Lynx
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I am not quite ready to do Linux from scratch. But I do want to install a distro on a spare partition that is friendly toward graphics packages like Inkscape, Scribus and Gimp. Slackware makes me jump through too many hoops. I tried Gentoo once years ago but it seemed to take forever just to get a normal install. I am also looking at Debian. Ubuntu is a bit simplistic for my needs. I need a bit more control.
Are there any recent users of Debian and/or Gentoo who would care to comment on their merits as a platform for bleeding edge versions of e.g., Inkscape? Does Gentoo still take hours and hours to install, with page after page of detailed instructions?

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:12:30 -0400 "John R. Culleton" <john@...1668...> wrote:
I am not quite ready to do Linux from scratch. But I do want to install a distro on a spare partition that is friendly toward graphics packages like Inkscape, Scribus and Gimp. Slackware makes me jump through too many hoops. I tried Gentoo once years ago but it seemed to take forever just to get a normal install. I am also looking at Debian. Ubuntu is a bit simplistic for my needs. I need a bit more control.
Are there any recent users of Debian and/or Gentoo who would care to comment on their merits as a platform for bleeding edge versions of e.g., Inkscape? Does Gentoo still take hours and hours to install, with page after page of detailed instructions?
I've been using debian etch for some time now (since before it became 'stable') and it is a very good base for most audio/graphics work.
By default it has inkscape 0.45 which gives you a good working starting point.
If you use synaptic to remove this you can then install a build of your choice (always having this as a fall-back).
You will have to install a compiler, as etch doesn't do this by default, and a few headers but i would imagine that most, if not all, you want will be obtainable via Synaptic (or apt-get if you are more into nuts&bolts).

On Wednesday 22 August 2007, Abrolag wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:12:30 -0400
"John R. Culleton" <john@...1668...> wrote:
I am not quite ready to do Linux from scratch. But I do want to install a distro on a spare partition that is friendly toward graphics packages like Inkscape, Scribus and Gimp. Slackware makes me jump through too many hoops. I tried Gentoo once years ago but it seemed to take forever just to get a normal install. I am also looking at Debian. Ubuntu is a bit simplistic for my needs. I need a bit more control.
Are there any recent users of Debian and/or Gentoo who would care to comment on their merits as a platform for bleeding edge versions of e.g., Inkscape? Does Gentoo still take hours and hours to install, with page after page of detailed instructions?
I've been using debian etch for some time now (since before it became 'stable') and it is a very good base for most audio/graphics work.
By default it has inkscape 0.45 which gives you a good working starting point.
Yeah but 45 doesn't read pdf files. That is what I was looking for.
If you use synaptic to remove this you can then install a build of your choice (always having this as a fall-back).
You will have to install a compiler, as etch doesn't do this by default, and a few headers but i would imagine that most, if not all, you want will be obtainable via Synaptic (or apt-get if you are more into nuts&bolts).
I wasted most of the day on Debian Etch. When I discovered that it didn't even have a gcc compiler I gave up. And I still haven't figured out how I turn off Gnome and get KDE back, although KDE was esy to download with apt-get install. Probably there is something to muck with in /etc/X11. I guess Debian folks just figure that all their users will want the Gnome GUI. That s not to my taste. All I want from Gnome are the libraries.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 07:52:42PM -0400, John R. Culleton wrote:
I wasted most of the day on Debian Etch. When I discovered that it didn't even have a gcc compiler I gave up.
apt-get install gcc would have sorted that out for you quite nicely. Debian is such a large distribution that almost everything isn't installed by default, but it's easy enough to add more packages during the install or afterwards.
And I still haven't figured out how I turn off Gnome and get KDE back, although KDE was esy to download with apt-get install. Probably there is something to muck with in /etc/X11.
Most display managers (but not xdm) will let you pick which window manager you want from a menu, before you log in. If you're wedded to xdm, you can use the update-alternatives program to switch the default window manager system-wide, or just edit your ~/.Xsession file.
I guess Debian folks just figure that all their users will want the Gnome GUI. That's not to my taste. All I want from Gnome are the libraries.
That simply isn't true. Debian is just a distribution, and it doesn't care which window manager you use. Like gcc, Gnome isn't installed by default. I have neither KDE nor Gnome installed. Instead, I have fluxbox and enlightenment DR17.
Sorry if I seem a bit curt. It's just that it was Debian's easy-to-use package management and wide range of packages that originally sold it to me. I know people who've been put off Debian because they thought the distribution was too large, or because it doesn't have the 'my first linux box' administration techniques of some distros, and I can understand those viewpoints, though I don't agree. But I just can't see how anyone could use Debian and end up with the impression that Gnome is mandatory and compiling software is hard.

John R. Culleton wrote: <snip />
I am not quite ready to do Linux from scratch.
Why not? It's not hard, it just takes a bit of time... Once you grok what's going on - get jhalfs, a bash script that builds makefiles from "the book" and builds a flawless LFS without intervention :-)
BLFS is a different beast altogether however and we are having discussions on the lists (really more to do with the LiveCD) about some sort of Package Management implementation that would make LFS/BLFS into a distro where the dependencies tree can be updated and managed...
When you build a working LFS/BLFS it is a *REAL* eye opener. The performance. boot time, lack of cruft will make you drooooool ;-)
But I do want to
install a distro on a spare partition that is friendly toward graphics packages like Inkscape, Scribus and Gimp. Slackware makes me jump through too many hoops. I tried Gentoo once years ago but it seemed to take forever just to get a normal install. I am also looking at Debian. Ubuntu is a bit simplistic for my needs. I need a bit more control.
I am using Ubunutu currently as my work desktop machine (LFS/BLFS for servers) and if you have been through LFS you can get as much control as you want - even with apt. [Roll on PM for LFS!]
Al LFS ID #216 http://www.theopensourcerer.com

On 8/22/07, lynx.abraxas@...1631... <lynx.abraxas@...1631...> wrote:
On 22/08/07 23:53:45, JonY wrote:
lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 22/08/07 18:43:47, JonY wrote:
lynx.abraxas@...1631... wrote:
On 21/08/07 18:25:58, john cliff wrote:
Huh?! Mine builds fine??!
Try doing a fresh check out. Get the new gtk210 and MingW package (gtk210-070819-3.7z and mingw-4.2.0-070518.7z).
I have an LFS here with gtk2.10.13. I figured out the missing header files are from libpoppler. libpoppler doesn't install them. Using export CPPFLAGS="-I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/poppler/ -I /usr/src/libpoppler/poppler-0.5.91/goo" didn't solve the problem fully because Object.h has #include "goo/gtypes.h" in it. How did You install poppler? Do You have a better idea then editing all these local includes to global ones?
Hi, ignore this message if duplicate, stupid dial up speed DSL line with giant latency.
LFS? Linux From Scratch?
Yes, no M$ windows at all...
Wait, are you using MSYS to do a bootstrap? I didn't do that. Get the packages from http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32libs/ instead.
Forgive me if I am wrong but I assumed that from your earlier post that you are building Inkscape from MinGW under Windows. gtk210-070819-3.7z comes with poppler.
I fear this misunderstandig might come from the fact, that I didn't start this thread but only agreed to a post where unsuccessful build of svn was mentioned. I'm sorry for that. I don't have the post I replied to any more.
So to make things clear:
I have a linux from scratch. gtk 2.10.13, poppler-0.5.91. svn inkscape Revision: 15884. I do ./autogen.sh; configure; make. Configure is happy with my system and also with my poppler-0.5.91. poppler-0.5.91 has the header files that can't be found during inkscape make but these seem to be headers only for compilation of poppler or poppler at least does not install them. Telling inkscape configure about the sources of poppler helps but then the make gets stuck because some includes in the poppler-headers are local ones which then of course don't resove. I couldn't find any hint about some special poppler install in the docs but as it is brand new developpment docs are often behind. I just wonder if and how someone made a complete make with poppler used with current svn so far?
Sorry for the confusion. Lynx
There was a problem with poppler not copying the headers across when you did make install, believe bulia had the same sort of issue. Not sure what the answer was, being a win guy myself. If no one pipes up with an answer here, you may want to ask on the dev list.
Cheers
Sim

John,
Just got back to this after all the other posts but no-one has answered the original question yet - when is the next version (with PDF import) due?
FTR, I have a Fedora7 setup - I had to (manually) install some dependencies but it still died at some point - I haven't got time to persist at the moment - hence the original question . .
Phil.
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 18:25 +0100, john cliff wrote:
What platform are you on? the windows build had been a bit broken but Bob did a new lib bundle over the weekend and it should be all good now.
On 8/21/07, Phil Rhoades <phil@...2067...> wrote:
People,
I had trouble building the SVN version - when is the next version with PDF import due?
Thanks,
Phil.
Philip Rhoades
Pricom Pty Limited (ACN 003 252 275 ABN 91 003 252 275) GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Fax: +61:(0)2-8221-9599 E-mail: phil@...2067...
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Hi Phil, When it comes to linux I'm not the greatest one to give adivice on build problems, as I'm win based. I think we have an SVN autopackage that should sort all the deps etc out for you. In terms of when the next official release will be, Its pretty hard to say, we dont have a fixed date we're shooting for, although now the summer of code is finished I think getting one rolled out fairly soon would be good, theres lots of fun new toys in there that people will enjoy having.
Cheers
John
On 8/23/07, Phil Rhoades <phil@...2067...> wrote:
John,
Just got back to this after all the other posts but no-one has answered the original question yet - when is the next version (with PDF import) due?
FTR, I have a Fedora7 setup - I had to (manually) install some dependencies but it still died at some point - I haven't got time to persist at the moment - hence the original question . .
Phil.
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 18:25 +0100, john cliff wrote:
What platform are you on? the windows build had been a bit broken but Bob did a new lib bundle over the weekend and it should be all good now.
On 8/21/07, Phil Rhoades <phil@...2067...> wrote:
People,
I had trouble building the SVN version - when is the next version with PDF import due?
Thanks,
Phil.
Philip Rhoades
Pricom Pty Limited (ACN 003 252 275 ABN 91 003 252 275) GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Fax: +61:(0)2-8221-9599 E-mail: phil@...2067...
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John,
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 13:02 +0100, john cliff wrote:
Hi Phil, When it comes to linux I'm not the greatest one to give adivice on build problems, as I'm win based. I think we have an SVN autopackage that should sort all the deps etc out for you. In terms of when the next official release will be, Its pretty hard to say, we dont have a fixed date we're shooting for, although now the summer of code is finished I think getting one rolled out fairly soon would be good, theres lots of fun new toys in there that people will enjoy having.
Excellent! I am really looking forward to it!
Thanks,
Phil.
Cheers
John
On 8/23/07, Phil Rhoades <phil@...2067...> wrote:
John,
Just got back to this after all the other posts but no-one has answered the original question yet - when is the next version (with PDF import) due?
FTR, I have a Fedora7 setup - I had to (manually) install some dependencies but it still died at some point - I haven't got time to persist at the moment - hence the original question . .
Phil.
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 18:25 +0100, john cliff wrote:
What platform are you on? the windows build had been a bit broken but Bob did a new lib bundle over the weekend and it should be all good now.
On 8/21/07, Phil Rhoades <phil@...2067...> wrote:
People,
I had trouble building the SVN version - when is the next version with PDF import due?
Thanks,
Phil.
Philip Rhoades
Pricom Pty Limited (ACN 003 252 275 ABN 91 003 252 275) GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Fax: +61:(0)2-8221-9599 E-mail: phil@...2067...
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