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Steve Litt

1 Sep 2013 1 Sep '13

1:38 a.m.

Hi all,

Check out the car I made with Inkscape:

http://www.a3b3.com/stuff/cardisplay1.svg

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

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Stan Field

1 Sep 1 Sep

3:16 a.m.

Nice job, Steve.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Steve Litt <slitt@...2357...>wrote:

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Hi all,

Check out the car I made with Inkscape:

http://www.a3b3.com/stuff/cardisplay1.svg

Thanks,

SteveT

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Arlo Barnes

3:16 a.m.

Congrats. I find Inkscape tutorial videos on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=inkscapehelpful, and cars seem to be a popular subject to render in SVG, especially to teach shading. -Arlo James Barnes http://arlojamesbarnes.com

Shlomi Fish

5:10 a.m.

Hi Steve,

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:38:38 -0400 Steve Litt <slitt@...2357...> wrote:

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Hi all,

Check out the car I made with Inkscape:

http://www.a3b3.com/stuff/cardisplay1.svg

Nice work. It looks a bit unprofessional, but still pretty attractive and well beyond my current skills. Good job.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Thanks,

SteveT

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Steve Litt

6:02 a.m.

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:10:28 +0300 Shlomi Fish <shlomif@...3008...> wrote:

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Hi Steve,

On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:38:38 -0400 Steve Litt <slitt@...2357...> wrote:

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Hi all,

Check out the car I made with Inkscape:

http://www.a3b3.com/stuff/cardisplay1.svg

Nice work. It looks a bit unprofessional, but still pretty attractive and well beyond my current skills. Good job.

Thanks Shlomi,

What would you say are the top three factors that make it look unprofessional? I'm pretty unprofessional with visual images, but that doesn't mean I can't learn :-)

Thanks,

SteveT

Felix E. Klee

7:53 a.m.

Hi Steve,

you wrote:

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What would you say are the top three factors that make it look unprofessional?

Not that I'm an expert either, especially not in Inkscape, just some suggestions in general when creating vector graphics based on real objects:

* Use a high resolution photo, and put it in the background. That helps you get the proportions right. Instead of a photo, you may use a technical drawing or even a rendering you created with a 3D program.

* Trace by hand, and try to limit the number of control points. That gives smoother curves. In your picture, curves are uneven, some look like drawn freehand (factor 1).

* Use the color picker to get colors right. Use transitions, and try to simplify, working with gradients and transparency. Use the same level of detail throughout.

In your picture colors don't match (factor 2) and level of detail is inconsistent (factor 3). For example, the side windows is flat blue, while the front window has a gradient but one which doesn't match. The side mirror looks nice and vivid, with a reflection.

HTH

- Felix

Martin Owens

3:34 p.m.

Pedantic moan:

On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 08:10 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:

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unprofessional

The quality of said performance is not indicated by the use of 'unprofessional'[1], there is a use for unprofessional to mean 'not conducting one's behavior with respect needed in business' but that's the administration of the skill, not the skill. Uploading jpegs is unprofessional, get the proportions wrong is unskillful or unrefined. ;-)

Martin,

[1] Professional - Earns money from performing skill Amateur - Performs skill for the respect / love / fun, without being paid.

Arlo Barnes

2 Sep 2 Sep

7:11 p.m.

Martin, I would agree with you - sometimes an amateur does something better than a professional (after all, etymologically it means "someone who loves [to do something]"). In fact, one could argue that this is becoming more the case as the threshold for entry into an area of interest is lowered by a potentially increased availability of information, such as in citizen science. Regardless of whether one professes to make a trade one's job or merely one's occupation, though, it is necessary to hone skills and to refine judgment of quality.

So anyway, I agree that gradients and shadows are important to making a vector object seem physical (in this case, yes, those side windows could use it). -Arlo James Barnes

Shlomi Fish

10:40 p.m.

Hi Martin,

On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 11:34:38 -0400 Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> wrote:

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Pedantic moan:

On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 08:10 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:

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unprofessional

The quality of said performance is not indicated by the use of 'unprofessional'[1], there is a use for unprofessional to mean 'not conducting one's behavior with respect needed in business' but that's the administration of the skill, not the skill. Uploading jpegs is unprofessional, get the proportions wrong is unskillful or unrefined. ;-)

Martin,

[1] Professional - Earns money from performing skill Amateur - Performs skill for the respect / love / fun, without being paid.

While I have been aware of that meaning of "amateur" (see http://paulgraham.com/opensource.html ), that's not the meaning I used there. The meaning I used there was:

« 1. Of, pertaining to, or in accordance with the (usually high) standards of a profession.

3. (by extension) Expert. »

(taken from: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/professional#Adjective ).

Naturally, I didn't mean to imply that works done without getting paid are necessarily inferior to works which were done in exchange for payment. By all means, the two meanings of "professional" vs. "amateurs" are not fully correlated.

What I meant was that the quality of the work done and shared by Steve (or is "Mr. Litt" preferred?) was not as high as I came to expect from similar work I've experienced done by (possibly more) skilled and/or talented people.[1]

Hope that helps.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

[1] - I hope I don't sound too harsh, and if I do - I apologise. I don't expect people to immediately be able to produce high-quality artworks, and Steve's car artwork shows a lot of potential, and like I said, is well above what I have been able to do so far.

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Steve Litt

3 Sep 3 Sep

1:55 a.m.

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 01:40:01 +0300 Shlomi Fish <shlomif@...3008...> wrote:

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What I meant was that the quality of the work done and shared by Steve (or is "Mr. Litt" preferred?)

Steve please. Mr. Litt is my dad.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

Shlomi Fish

4:45 p.m.

Hi Steve,

On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 21:55:06 -0400 Steve Litt <slitt@...2357...> wrote:

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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 01:40:01 +0300 Shlomi Fish <shlomif@...3008...> wrote:

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What I meant was that the quality of the work done and shared by Steve (or is "Mr. Litt" preferred?)

Steve please. Mr. Litt is my dad.

OK, fair enough. This is the second time someone told me that after I called him "Mr. $LastName". Maybe it's a cultural thing. There's an English friend of mine who calls me “Mr. Fish” when talking to me in instant messaging, and I don't mind that (and my father is still alive and kicking - touch wood.), but I am Israeli. See:

http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#refer_or_address

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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