Windows 10: Menu commands of Inkscape do not appear
Hello.
I installed the latest version of Inkscape on Windows 10.
Three effects I recognize:
1 Inkscape needs extremly long to start (about 15 seconds), much longer than every other application (about 1-2 seconds) on my PC with an SSD.
2 When I click any entry in the menu toolbar, an empty rectangle appears. Not any command is visible.
3 When I hover over any symbol in the vertical toolbar as well an empty rectangle appears.
How can I solve the problem please?
Thanks.
Andreas
1 -- 15 seconds is a normal startup time for Windows. I suspect is faster on Linux.
2 -- Do you mean that the menu drops down, but it's blank? Or do you mean that when the menu drops down, you can see all the commands except for the one your mouse hovers on?
3 -- Where does the empty rectangle appear when you hover over the vertical toolbar?
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Andreas Borutta" <borumat@...26...> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 3:13 AM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-user] Windows 10: Menu commands of Inkscape do not appear
Hello.
I installed the latest version of Inkscape on Windows 10.
Three effects I recognize:
1 Inkscape needs extremly long to start (about 15 seconds), much longer than every other application (about 1-2 seconds) on my PC with an SSD.
2 When I click any entry in the menu toolbar, an empty rectangle appears. Not any command is visible.
3 When I hover over any symbol in the vertical toolbar as well an empty rectangle appears.
How can I solve the problem please?
Thanks.
Andreas
http://borumat.de http://fahrradzukunft.de
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Brynn wrote:
Hello Brynn.
Thanks for your answer.
2 -- Do you mean that the menu drops down, but it's blank?
Exactly.
Or do you mean that when the menu drops down, you can see all the commands
No, I cannot see them.
except for the one your mouse hovers on?
3 -- Where does the empty rectangle appear when you hover over the vertical toolbar?
At the same place the most tooltips appear - very near to the cursor.
Unfortunately I cannot make a screenshot from that effects, because they depend on clicking and hovering. If there's a way to make a screenshot, please let me know.
Regard, Andreas
From: "Andreas Borutta" <borumat@...26...> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 3:13 AM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-user] Windows 10: Menu commands of Inkscape do not appear
Hello.
I installed the latest version of Inkscape on Windows 10.
Three effects I recognize:
1 Inkscape needs extremly long to start (about 15 seconds), much longer than every other application (about 1-2 seconds) on my PC with an SSD.
2 When I click any entry in the menu toolbar, an empty rectangle appears. Not any command is visible.
3 When I hover over any symbol in the vertical toolbar as well an empty rectangle appears.
How can I solve the problem please?
Thanks.
Andreas
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Andreas
Andreas Borutta wrote:
Unfortunately I cannot make a screenshot from that effects, because they depend on clicking and hovering.
I had success in making a screenshot: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.23-14_33_52.png
It shows the rectangle when left click on a main menu entry, in that case the menu "Pfad".
The other problem with the crashes is still existent.
Sometimes it's enough when I just click to one menu entry, than to another (anyone): Boooom, it crashes (disappears completely).
I checked the task manager after such a crash. No entry "Inkscape" anymore.
Is there any user of Windows 10 x64 in this mailing list who can work with Inkscape without problems?
Kind regards, Andreas
@Andreas: I am not exactly sure which version of Inkscape you have installed, 32-bit or 64-bit. If you are using the 64-bit version, it might be worthwhile to try the 32 bit version instead: for example inkscape-0.91.msi from https://inkscape.org/en/download/windows/
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alvinpenner schrieb:
@Andreas: I am not exactly sure which version of Inkscape you have installed, 32-bit or 64-bit.
It was the 64-bit version.
If you are using the 64-bit version, it might be worthwhile to try the 32 bit version instead: for example inkscape-0.91.msi from https://inkscape.org/en/download/windows/
I tried that.
First I uninstalled the 64-bit version.
After my installation of the 32-bit version I get the following error message when I start Inkscape: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.23-17_30_43.png
Uff.
Andreas
Andreas
well, I must admit, that is strange. I don't think I've ever seen that message from a 32 bit installation. Any chance you could start Inkscape from a command prompt, using a command like this: C:\Program Files\Inkscape>inkscape or C:\Program Files\Inkscape>inkscape -V Inkscape 0.91 r13725 (Jan 30 2015)
It is possible this may give you a more detailed error message. (You may need to use C:\Program Files (x86))
Alvin
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alvinpenner schrieb:
C:\Program Files\Inkscape>inkscape -V
C:\Program Files (x86)\Inkscape>inkscape -V
*done*
I get exactly the same error message I posted in my last mail.
If the information helps: My Windows installation is relativly fresh one. And clean (not an update).
I had not any problem with any other program until now.
Andreas
-----Original Message----- From: Andreas Borutta [mailto:borumat@...26...] Sent: 23 February 2016 13:41 To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Windows 10: Menu commands of Inkscape do not appear
Andreas Borutta wrote:
Unfortunately I cannot make a screenshot from that effects, because they depend on clicking and hovering.
I had success in making a screenshot: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.23-14_33_52.png
It shows the rectangle when left click on a main menu entry, in that case the menu "Pfad".
The other problem with the crashes is still existent.
Sometimes it's enough when I just click to one menu entry, than to another (anyone): Boooom, it crashes (disappears completely).
I checked the task manager after such a crash. No entry "Inkscape" anymore.
Is there any user of Windows 10 x64 in this mailing list who can work with Inkscape without problems?
FWIW Windows 10 64-bit Inkscape 0.91 r13725 works for me (but very slow to start).
Paul
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Hallo, Andreas,
could it be that you are hitting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1357672 or one of its various variants on Windows?
(also see linked reports in comment 3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1357672/comments/3)
If so, it maybe helps to change the GTK theme (sorry, I can't give you a description about how to do this - I'm on Linux).
Kind regards, Maren
Hello.
I installed the latest version of Inkscape on Windows 10.
Three effects I recognize:
1 Inkscape needs extremly long to start (about 15 seconds), much longer than every other application (about 1-2 seconds) on my PC with an SSD.
2 When I click any entry in the menu toolbar, an empty rectangle appears. Not any command is visible.
3 When I hover over any symbol in the vertical toolbar as well an empty rectangle appears.
How can I solve the problem please?
Thanks.
Andreas
http://borumat.de http://fahrradzukunft.de
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maren@...3112... wrote:
Hello Maren,
could it be that you are hitting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1357672 or one of its various variants on Windows?
Some of the mentioned bugs sounds like variants, indeed.
But I'm not firm with the exact definitions of the used terms ("rollover", "white out", ...) in the descriptions. Therefor I used simple words like "rectangle" in my own description.
GTK? Never heard.
When some elso, who uses Windows, has may be a helpful hint, what I can try to isolate the problem, please let me know.
I really like to use Inkscape.
Kind regards, Andreas
(also see linked reports in comment 3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1357672/comments/3)
If so, it maybe helps to change the GTK theme (sorry, I can't give you a description about how to do this - I'm on Linux).
Kind regards, Maren
Hello.
I installed the latest version of Inkscape on Windows 10.
Three effects I recognize:
1 Inkscape needs extremly long to start (about 15 seconds), much longer than every other application (about 1-2 seconds) on my PC with an SSD.
2 When I click any entry in the menu toolbar, an empty rectangle appears. Not any command is visible.
3 When I hover over any symbol in the vertical toolbar as well an empty rectangle appears.
How can I solve the problem please?
Thanks.
Andreas
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Andreas
maren@...3112... wrote:
Hello Maren,
could it be that you are hitting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1357672 or one of its various variants on Windows?
Some of the mentioned bugs sounds like variants, indeed.
But I'm not firm with the exact definitions of the used terms ("rollover", "white out", ...) in the descriptions. Therefor I used simple words like "rectangle" in my own description.
GTK? Never heard.
When some elso, who uses Windows, has may be a helpful hint, what I can try to isolate the problem, please let me know.
I really like to use Inkscape.
Kind regards, Andreas
Hallo Andreas,
The bugs all revolve around the colors in the menues not fitting together, so if you have a text color and a background color that are the same (or very similar), you cannot read the text.
I think Brynn might be able to explain how to switch the GTK theme on Windows. (GTK theme: the 'look and feel' of programs that use a specific framework (GTK) to create their user interface). She has stated in the bug comments that she had switched the theme. Brynn?
It's not a big thing to switch the theme - you can switch back quickly any time, so you can just try it out without any risks to verify if this is the reason.
Viele Grüße, Maren
(also see linked reports in comment 3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1357672/comments/3)
If so, it maybe helps to change the GTK theme (sorry, I can't give you a description about how to do this - I'm on Linux).
Kind regards, Maren
Hello.
I installed the latest version of Inkscape on Windows 10.
Three effects I recognize:
1 Inkscape needs extremly long to start (about 15 seconds), much longer than every other application (about 1-2 seconds) on my PC with an SSD.
2 When I click any entry in the menu toolbar, an empty rectangle appears. Not any command is visible.
3 When I hover over any symbol in the vertical toolbar as well an empty rectangle appears.
How can I solve the problem please?
Thanks.
Andreas
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Andreas
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maren@...3112... wrote:
Guten Morgen/Good morning Maren,
The bugs all revolve around the colors in the menues not fitting together, so if you have a text color and a background color that are the same (or very similar), you cannot read the text.
Sounds plausible.
But there are other effects, which will make it difficult to explore the causes.
When I open any svg file (I tested it with several) in Inkscape, Inkscape crashes after one or two "interactions".
Example of an interaction: I opened the XML Editor. I increased the width of the XML Editor window. Inkscape crashes. Reproducable.
Uff.
I hope there is a solution.
Something else: Could you recommend this book in german language?
Inkscape. Von Uwe Schöler. ISBN-13: 978-3446438651
Or is there a better one in german?
Thanks.
Kind regards, Andreas
Hallo Andreas,
after seeing the screenshot, I think we can be sure it wasn't the GTK theme after all... - sorry for the detour!
Something else: Could you recommend this book in german language?
Inkscape. Von Uwe Schöler. ISBN-13: 978-3446438651
- I'm sorry, I've never read the book. I only know that the author is a former German translator of the Inkscape program.
In our library, they had a copy of this one: ISBN-13: 978-3898645539 (and I don't remember too much about it - I've learnt a lot more from just playing around with the software, English online tutorials, and by getting involved with the community).
I don't know which Inkscape version the book by Uwe Schöler refers to, probably to 0.48.x. 0.91 doesn't differ a lot from 0.48 in the basic functionality, but many new features have been added. If you want to mainly learn the basics and standard techniques, it probably won't matter that it's not current (I never saw any book for 0.91 in German - or any other language).
If I needed a book, I'd take a look into Inkscape books in the library (or in a physical book store) first, and only then, if I really wanted to keep one, I'd buy it.
While you don't have a book yet, you can also start with a tutorial that follows one of my workshops ;) : http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2015/Dec/inkscape-fuer-einsteiger-teil-i-grun... and http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2015/Dec/inkscape-fuer-einsteiger-teil-ii-pra...
Or is there a better one in german?
- I honestly do not know :/
Kind regards, Maren
maren@...3112... schrieb:
Guten Morgen Maren,
after seeing the screenshot, I think we can be sure it wasn't the GTK theme after all... - sorry for the detour!
No reason at all to say sorry :)
Something else: Could you recommend this book in german language?
Inkscape. Von Uwe Schöler. ISBN-13: 978-3446438651
I don't know which Inkscape version the book by Uwe Schöler refers to, probably to 0.48.x.
I sent a mail to the publisher to ask for.
0.91 doesn't differ a lot from 0.48 in the basic functionality, but many new features have been added. If you want to mainly learn the basics and standard techniques, it probably won't matter that it's not current (I never saw any book for 0.91 in German - or any other language).
When I buy a book, than it should refer to a current version.
While you don't have a book yet, you can also start with a tutorial that follows one of my workshops ;) : http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2015/Dec/inkscape-fuer-einsteiger-teil-i-grun... and http://vektorrascheln.de/posts/2015/Dec/inkscape-fuer-einsteiger-teil-ii-pra...
Thanks. Looks nice for some me as an absolute beginner.
In general I prefer a good book to learn a new technique like that we talk about.
Can you recommend a nice web forum about Inkscape in german language?
On https://inkscape.org/de/community/ two forum are mentioned:
http://www.open-draw-community.de/ (domain to sale)
For the first, I like to know, how I have to configure Inkscape to produce very consise code, free of all ids, attributes, elements, meta elements, which are not really needed. Like the output of a cleaning tool like https://jakearchibald.github.io/svgomg/
Especially I'm interested in code, which contains the basic shapes (https://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-SVG11-20030114/shapes.html) when you enter them via toolbar via the GUI.
Andreas
Hallo Andreas,
Can you recommend a nice web forum about Inkscape in german language?
On https://inkscape.org/de/community/ two forum are mentioned:
http://www.open-draw-community.de/ (domain to sale)
- Thank you, we'll remove the stale link.
- This forum is active, with few, but knowledgeable users and a broken mailing system (so you need to actively visit the web site to see if there's an answer). Several of the expert users on inkscapeforum.com are also German-speaking, but it's difficult to keep things bilingual there.
For the first, I like to know, how I have to configure Inkscape to produce very consise code, free of all ids, attributes, elements, meta elements, which are not really needed. Like the output of a cleaning tool like https://jakearchibald.github.io/svgomg/
- Inkscape uses the cleaning tool Scour to export to 'Optimized SVG' (see list of file extensions in 'Speichern als...' dialog)
Especially I'm interested in code, which contains the basic shapes (https://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-SVG11-20030114/shapes.html) when you enter them via toolbar via the GUI.
- I'm sorry, I don't understand :/ Can you describe your goal with some more detail? (If you prefer, we can also switch to the German forum)
Viele Grüße, Maren
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Maren Hachmann schrieb:
- This forum is active, with few, but knowledgeable users and a broken
mailing system (so you need to actively visit the web site to see if there's an answer). Several of the expert users on inkscapeforum.com are also German-speaking, but it's difficult to keep things bilingual there.
Thanks for the helpful hints.
For the first, I like to know, how I have to configure Inkscape to produce very consise code, free of all ids, attributes, elements, meta elements, which are not really needed. Like the output of a cleaning tool like https://jakearchibald.github.io/svgomg/
- Inkscape uses the cleaning tool Scour to export to 'Optimized SVG'
(see list of file extensions in 'Speichern als...' dialog)
Does that mean, that there no "advanced options" to configure the way Inkscape creates codes in an optimized way always, without the step "export as optimized"?
Especially I'm interested in code, which contains the basic shapes (https://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-SVG11-20030114/shapes.html) when you enter them via toolbar via the GUI.
- I'm sorry, I don't understand :/ Can you describe your goal with some
more detail? (If you prefer, we can also switch to the German forum)
I will create a document in Inkscape as a showcase to explain clearly what I mean. In a new thread.
Kind regards, Andreas
Andreas Borutta schrieb:
Maren Hachmann schrieb:
Especially I'm interested in code, which contains the basic shapes (https://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-SVG11-20030114/shapes.html) when you enter them via toolbar via the GUI.
- I'm sorry, I don't understand :/ Can you describe your goal with some
more detail? (If you prefer, we can also switch to the German forum)
I will create a document in Inkscape as a showcase to explain clearly what I mean. In a new thread.
I'm interested in high quality source code.
The SVG specification offers several basic shapes: https://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-SVG11-20030114/shapes.html
E.G. circle, line, polyline.
I created a testcase with Inkscape:
http://borumat.de/+svg/circle-line-polyline.svg
To create those three shapes I used the function "F5 (create circles, ellipsis and arcs)" and "Shift+F6 (Bezier curves and straight lines)".
Inkscape uses the element "ellipsis" and not "circle", and "path" and not "line" and "polyline".
How can create SVG code with circle, line and polyline please with using the GUI?
And what is the concept behind the actual behaviour of Inkscape not to use the basic shape elements please? I like to understand that.
Further the XML editor doesn't show the element ellipsis for the red object: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.27-13_47_29.png
It shows the element path. But that is not correct as the source code shows:
<ellipse
style="fill:#ff0000;fill-rule:evenodd;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:1px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" id="path3336" cx="305.57114" cy="186.66147" rx="60.104076" ry="60.609154" />
What is please the reason for that behaviour of the XML-Editor?
Thanks :)
Kind regards, Andreas
Hallo Andreas,
Am 27.02.2016 um 13:56 schrieb Andreas Borutta:
http://borumat.de/+svg/circle-line-polyline.svg
To create those three shapes I used the function "F5 (create circles, ellipsis and arcs)" and "Shift+F6 (Bezier curves and straight lines)".
Inkscape uses the element "ellipsis" and not "circle", and "path" and not "line" and "polyline".
- Inkscape 0.91 does create circle elements if you hold down Ctrl while creating one. For the rest, yes, no lines, no polylines.
How can create SVG code with circle, line and polyline please with using the GUI?
- Circle: see above. Line / Polyline: don't think that works, only with XML editor.
And what is the concept behind the actual behaviour of Inkscape not to use the basic shape elements please?
- I'm not a developer, but I would think it could be to simplify the code. It doesn't make a visual difference, and having less elements is probably easier to deal with. Or maybe the libraries Inkscape depends on don't use it, or maybe it's just a matter of nobody showing enough interest in implementing it, and nobody requesting it. Don't know.
You can browse the bug reports to see if there's a feature request for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape
Further the XML editor doesn't show the element ellipsis for the red object: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.27-13_47_29.png
It shows the element path. But that is not correct as the source code shows
What is please the reason for that behaviour of the XML-Editor?
- I can't confirm that with Inkscape 0.91: http://imgur.com/xZUVhAul.png
Kind regards, Maren
Maren Hachmann wrote:
Am 27.02.2016 um 13:56 schrieb Andreas Borutta:
http://borumat.de/+svg/circle-line-polyline.svg
To create those three shapes I used the function "F5 (create circles, ellipsis and arcs)" and "Shift+F6 (Bezier curves and straight lines)".
Inkscape uses the element "ellipsis" and not "circle", and "path" and not "line" and "polyline".
- Inkscape 0.91 does create circle elements if you hold down Ctrl while
creating one.
Oh, a hidden feature, thanks.
My suggestion/wish for a future version: an extra toolbar button only for circles.
For the rest, yes, no lines, no polylines.
Uff. That is a really sad message.
I have no idea why the developers has decided that the most basic shapes at all - lines and polylines - are not supported.
Further the XML editor doesn't show the element ellipsis for the red object: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.27-13_47_29.png
It shows the element path. But that is not correct as the source code shows
What is please the reason for that behaviour of the XML-Editor?
- I can't confirm that with Inkscape 0.91:
I use the 0.91 for windows. Do you use another OS?
Can anyone reproduce that for the windows version?
Kind regards, Andreas
Maren Hachmann wrote:
Further the XML editor doesn't show the element ellipsis for the red object: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.27-13_47_29.png
It shows the element path. But that is not correct as the source code shows
What is please the reason for that behaviour of the XML-Editor?
- I can't confirm that with Inkscape 0.91:
I tested it again. When I open the document, the XML editor shows as well "ellipsis" as in your screenshot.
When I create a new document with an ellipsis, I can reproduce the described behaviour? Can you reproduce that as well, when you create a new document with an ellipsis? May be it is a bug?
Kind regards, Andreas
Andreas Borutta wrote:
Further the XML editor doesn't show the element ellipsis for the red object: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.27-13_47_29.png
It shows the element path. But that is not correct as the source code shows
What is please the reason for that behaviour of the XML-Editor?
- I can't confirm that with Inkscape 0.91:
I tested it again. When I open the document, the XML editor shows as well "ellipsis" as in your screenshot.
When I create a new document with an ellipsis, I can reproduce the described behaviour? Can you reproduce that as well, when you create a new document with an ellipsis?
Can anyone reproduce that behaviour?
Kind regards, Andreas
Maren Hachmann wrote:
Inkscape 0.91 does create circle elements if you hold down Ctrl while creating one.
I tried that in my 0.91 for Windows. Without success. When I move the mouse pointer, still an ellipsis is possible. May be I missunderstand, what you mean.
Kind regards, Andreas
On Sun, 2016-02-28 at 01:12 +0100, Andreas Borutta wrote:
Maren Hachmann wrote:
Inkscape 0.91 does create circle elements if you hold down Ctrl while creating one.
I tried that in my 0.91 for Windows. Without success. When I move the mouse pointer, still an ellipsis is possible. May be I missunderstand, what you mean.
Holding down the CTRL key will restrict the height/width ratios to integer values or the Golden ratio. If the ratio is close to one, a circle will be created.
Note, that one can convert an ellipse to a circle or a circle to an ellipse (or circle to a path). When doing so, the 'id' attribute will not change. So if an ellipse is create first and the converted to a circle, the SVG element type changes but the 'id' will still be 'ellipse#####'.
Inkscape does render 'line' and 'polyline' elements. You can change their properties (stroke color, stroke width, etc.) but there is no interface (other than the XML editor) for editing the points. The original authors of Inkscape probably did not see a need to provide editing capabilities as the path element can do everything these can with as compact a syntax (for paths: d="m 50,50 100,50 ..." is actually shorter than for polylines: points="50,50 100,50 ..." once you add in the attribute name).
Tav
Kind regards, Andreas
Tavmjong Bah wrote:
On Sun, 2016-02-28 at 01:12 +0100, Andreas Borutta wrote:
When I move the mouse pointer, still an ellipsis is possible. May be I missunderstand, what you mean.
Holding down the CTRL key will restrict the height/width ratios to integer values or the Golden ratio. If the ratio is close to one, a circle will be created.
Thanks. I got it.
Note, that one can convert an ellipse to a circle or a circle to an ellipse (or circle to a path). When doing so, the 'id' attribute will not change. So if an ellipse is create first and the converted to a circle, the SVG element type changes but the 'id' will still be 'ellipse#####'.
OK, good to know.
Inkscape does render 'line' and 'polyline' elements. You can change their properties (stroke color, stroke width, etc.) but there is no interface (other than the XML editor) for editing the points. The original authors of Inkscape probably did not see a need to provide editing capabilities as the path element can do everything these can with as compact a syntax (for paths: d="m 50,50 100,50 ..." is actually shorter than for polylines: points="50,50 100,50 ..." once you add in the attribute name).
I have to accept that. Thanks for your hints :)
Is it true, that there's no way to let the xml editor show the complete original code like in a text editor?
Kind regards, Andreas
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 2:50 AM, Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...206...> wrote:
The original authors of Inkscape probably did not see a need to provide editing capabilities as the path element can do everything these can with as compact a syntax (for paths: d="m 50,50 100,50 ..." is actually shorter than for polylines: points="50,50 100,50 ..." once you add in the attribute name).
But "compactness of syntax" is not a very XML-like virtue, right? It seems like if you are worried about that, use Gzip (SVGZ). -Arlo James Barnes
Am 27.02.2016 um 11:10 schrieb Andreas Borutta:
Does that mean, that there no "advanced options" to configure the way Inkscape creates codes in an optimized way always, without the step "export as optimized"?
- Yes. Inkscape keeps its editor data by default. If you want something different, you need to explicitly select that option every time (the options you set last are kept, AFAIK).
You can change the standard output a little in Preferences -> Behaviour -> Transforms and Preferences -> Input/Output -> SVG Output.
I don't think this is bad, because it protects the less tech-savvy users from accidental data loss.
More advanced users can also just use the corresponding command-line tools (e.g. scour) directly, which is probably the quickest solution.
(btw. I've been working on the chart extension a little - it's got more options now, and soon will be able to deal with the LibreOffice CSV file directly, without any previous file editing)
Kind regards, Maren
A while back, somebody asked if it was possible to edit live in a way that visualised the 'truncate numbers to [X] digits' option in Scour - for example, only certain B`ezier shapes would be allowed, the position and size of objects would change in steps, the size of which would relate to the unit used and the number of digits allowed. I do not remember the answer, though. -Arlo James Barnes
I'm not sure If I can REPLY ALL or just REPLY to this email letter. I mean, If I'm getting these email letters, wouldn't it be easier to just reply to them rather than sign-in to some web-page? Please accept that request as feedback. I'm uncertain If I can interact this way with other Inkscape users. In any case, please allow me this method of reaching you, It's easier & quicker.
I'm running Windows 10 Home 64bit - I'm also running 32 bit Inkscape 0.91 I was instructed to use this version of Inkscape due to an undesired glitch in Inkscape 64 bit. Any way, let me move on with my current issue.
I recently installed new fonts from 1001fonts.com, fontmeme.com, & fontspace.com. Some fonts are Open Type Font files (otf) & some are True Type font files (ttf). Should this make a difference inside Inkscape? Any way, let me move forward with my issue.
When I try to type in "Create & Edit Text Objects" mode - What seems to work by "default" is sans serif. I would type everything I need in sans serif then choose a different type font. If I try typing from the get-go using one of my newly installed fonts, Inkscape gives me an assertion failure & closes. Are you aware of this issue? What seems to be the problem? Is Inkscape suppose to work that way?
Here are my newly installed fonts.
Kentucky Fried Chicken Kentucky Fried Chicken
Ferro Rosso Ferro Rosso
Groundnut Groundnut
Yahoo! Yahoo!
African African
Jurassic Park Jurassic Park Oreos Oreos
Simpsonfont Simpsonfont
WillyWonka WillyWonka
Tribeca Tribeca
HotPizza hotpizza
I thought it would be best to report this issue. Please note, no further reporting on this issue will be done by myself. PLEASE forward this report to the proper email address or department for consideration. Thank you.
Artie - An Inkscape User.
On 2/27/2016 12:01 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote:
A while back, somebody asked if it was possible to edit live in a way that visualised the 'truncate numbers to [X] digits' option in Scour - for example, only certain B`ezier shapes would be allowed, the position and size of objects would change in steps, the size of which would relate to the unit used and the number of digits allowed. I do not remember the answer, though. -Arlo James Barnes
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I'm not sure this sounds like the same bug. In my experience, the problem only occurs with the menu item where the mouse is hovering -- because the highlighting makes the text color too close to the background color.
Andreas, did you ever change the theme?
I only still have Windows 7, so my instructions might not be quite right. But let's try.
Go to Control Panel > Personalization (or in case Windows 10 is different, try looking for Control Panel > Display and look for some way to change the theme)
It's themes which use a lot of transparency (generally called "Aero themes") where this problem occurs. If you switch to the Basic or Windows Classic theme, the problem should be fixed, if this is the same bug.
The Aero themes make everything look bright and shiny, like with reflections -- most evident in the titlebar -- while the Windows Classic and Basic themes use only flat color. Well "flat color" isn't exactly correct, because you can make it look like there's a gradient (from one side of the titlebar to the other). But there's no white, kind of cloudiness or bright reflective effects.
Let us know if that helps.
For the tool tips problem, if you switch to Windows Classic themes, you can set the text size and color for the tool tips. It's not an easy dialog to find, and there's a good chance it's different in Windows 10. But I can try to help you find it.
But first, try changing the theme.
By the way, I guess you haven't seen any problems like this, with other programs?
brynn
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maren@...3112... wrote:
Hello Maren,
could it be that you are hitting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1357672 or one of its various variants on Windows?
Some of the mentioned bugs sounds like variants, indeed.
But I'm not firm with the exact definitions of the used terms ("rollover", "white out", ...) in the descriptions. Therefor I used simple words like "rectangle" in my own description.
GTK? Never heard.
When some elso, who uses Windows, has may be a helpful hint, what I can try to isolate the problem, please let me know.
I really like to use Inkscape.
Kind regards, Andreas
Hallo Andreas,
The bugs all revolve around the colors in the menues not fitting together, so if you have a text color and a background color that are the same (or very similar), you cannot read the text.
I think Brynn might be able to explain how to switch the GTK theme on Windows. (GTK theme: the 'look and feel' of programs that use a specific framework (GTK) to create their user interface). She has stated in the bug comments that she had switched the theme. Brynn?
It's not a big thing to switch the theme - you can switch back quickly any time, so you can just try it out without any risks to verify if this is the reason.
Viele Grüße, Maren
(also see linked reports in comment 3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1357672/comments/3)
If so, it maybe helps to change the GTK theme (sorry, I can't give you a description about how to do this - I'm on Linux).
Kind regards, Maren
Hello.
I installed the latest version of Inkscape on Windows 10.
Three effects I recognize:
1 Inkscape needs extremly long to start (about 15 seconds), much longer than every other application (about 1-2 seconds) on my PC with an SSD.
2 When I click any entry in the menu toolbar, an empty rectangle appears. Not any command is visible.
3 When I hover over any symbol in the vertical toolbar as well an empty rectangle appears.
How can I solve the problem please?
Thanks.
Andreas
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Brynn wrote:
Thanks for your time, Brynn. Very nice, that you try to help me.
I'm not sure this sounds like the same bug. In my experience, the problem only occurs with the menu item where the mouse is hovering -- because the highlighting makes the text color too close to the background color.
Andreas, did you ever change the theme?
I don't think so. May be I choosed one, during the installation of Windows 10. But I didn't downloaded any theme or created an own one.
I only still have Windows 7, so my instructions might not be quite right. But let's try.
Go to Control Panel > Personalization (or in case Windows 10 is different, try looking for Control Panel > Display and look for some way to change the theme)
My theme is the standard theme "Windows 10" as you can see in my screenshot: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.23-14_14_24.png
When I change to the two other existing standard themes, it has no effect for the described problem.
Even if I change to the theme "High Kontrast" (it is not visible in the screenshot), which seems to be useful for people with an eye disease, nothing changes in Inkscape.
It's themes which use a lot of transparency (generally called "Aero themes") where this problem occurs. If you switch to the Basic or Windows Classic theme, the problem should be fixed, if this is the same bug.
I have used these types of customization.
Of course I can try that to find out, if that is really the cause.
But I have no theme called "classic" or "non aero" as you can see in my screenshot.
Which option should I change please?
By the way, I guess you haven't seen any problems like this, with other programs?
That's true. I've never seen such a problem in any other program.
Sorry for my poor English.
Kind regards, Andreas
Sorry for my poor English.
Don't worry. With patience, we get there.
I agree with the others that this does not look like the bug which Maren referenced.
Unfortunately, my best strength with Inkscape is drawing using canvas controls. I don't have much technical understanding about how Inkscape actually works, or how it's packaged.
However, I read forums. And from your screenshot (good job getting it!) this *somewhat* resembles problems we've seen when someone uses an unusual screen resolution or orientation, or screen magnifier, or other assistive or accessibility options. Or dual or multiple monitor setup. Once I saw a similar problem where someone has set the text to be huge, to compensate for visual issue. Any kind of uncommon display options or programs installed that change the global display? Or if you've ever used something like that, but reverted, maybe there's an option you forgot to switch back?
It doesn't look typical for that, but somewhat. Does that ring any bells?
Well, that's a long shot, but I thought worth a mention. The others, alvinpenner and Maren will be more help from here. But if there's any other way I can help, just ask :-)
Good Luck, brynn
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Andreas Borutta" <borumat@...26...> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 6:23 AM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Windows 10: Menu commands of Inkscape do notappear
Brynn wrote:
Thanks for your time, Brynn. Very nice, that you try to help me.
I'm not sure this sounds like the same bug. In my experience, the problem only occurs with the menu item where the mouse is hovering -- because the highlighting makes the text color too close to the background color.
Andreas, did you ever change the theme?
I don't think so. May be I choosed one, during the installation of Windows 10. But I didn't downloaded any theme or created an own one.
I only still have Windows 7, so my instructions might not be quite right. But let's try.
Go to Control Panel > Personalization (or in case Windows 10 is different, try looking for Control Panel > Display and look for some way to change the theme)
My theme is the standard theme "Windows 10" as you can see in my screenshot: http://borumat.de/+screenshots/hc-2016.02.23-14_14_24.png
When I change to the two other existing standard themes, it has no effect for the described problem.
Even if I change to the theme "High Kontrast" (it is not visible in the screenshot), which seems to be useful for people with an eye disease, nothing changes in Inkscape.
It's themes which use a lot of transparency (generally called "Aero themes") where this problem occurs. If you switch to the Basic or Windows Classic theme, the problem should be fixed, if this is the same bug.
I have used these types of customization.
Of course I can try that to find out, if that is really the cause.
But I have no theme called "classic" or "non aero" as you can see in my screenshot.
Which option should I change please?
By the way, I guess you haven't seen any problems like this, with other programs?
That's true. I've never seen such a problem in any other program.
Sorry for my poor English.
Kind regards, Andreas
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Brynn wrote:
However, I read forums. And from your screenshot (good job getting it!) this *somewhat* resembles problems we've seen when someone uses an unusual screen resolution or orientation,
That was the cause Sherlock! Great!
Indeed I use my display in the potrait mode. Width 1400, height 2560.
Now I turned it to the normal landscape mode:
everything works fine.
(Note: I uninstalled the 32bit version and reinstalled the 64bit version)
I hope there will be solution, which allows the usage of a display in the portrait mode.
Thanks a lot to you and to all others for your help.
Andreas
Elementary, my dear Watson! Well, not really -- I thought it was a long shot. :-S But good news!
We should definitely either write a new bug report, or make sure that change of orientation is noted in the existing report.
Hhmm, 503 error for Launchpad, at the moment. I'll try to remember to find the existing report later, and I'll reply again with a link, just to complete this thread.
All best, brynn
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Brynn wrote:
However, I read forums. And from your screenshot (good job getting it!) this *somewhat* resembles problems we've seen when someone uses an unusual screen resolution or orientation,
That was the cause Sherlock! Great!
Indeed I use my display in the potrait mode. Width 1400, height 2560.
Now I turned it to the normal landscape mode:
everything works fine.
(Note: I uninstalled the 32bit version and reinstalled the 64bit version)
I hope there will be solution, which allows the usage of a display in the portrait mode.
Thanks a lot to you and to all others for your help.
Andreas
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Brynn wrote:
Elementary, my dear Watson! Well, not really -- I thought it was a long shot. :-S But good news!
:)
We should definitely either write a new bug report, or make sure that change of orientation is noted in the existing report.
Hhmm, 503 error for Launchpad, at the moment. I'll try to remember to find the existing report later, and I'll reply again with a link, just to complete this thread.
Please let me know, if you need any further details, tests or screenshots about the effect for your bug report.
It's quite a good experience, when accuracy and deduction can reveal phenomenons.
Andreas
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