Hi, If I generate text from cairo and create an svg output, I'm able to see the text from inkscape, but attempts to copy that text to a new document fail. As an example, in the source code that I provided in my previous post entitled "object size function of page format?", an svg file is created with an "X" in the center of of a square. If I copy the grouped object containing the square and the "X" into a new document, only the square appears... the X doesn't show up. Where did it go? Thanks, David _________________________________________________________________ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You�ll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_m...