Dear all,
I know I should be sending this to the dev list, but I'm not a member and I'm feeling lazy.
In Illustrator there's a tool to import data in a spreadsheet, and create basic charts from that. It's very handy for people who do data-visualization. I would think that Inkscape is just as good as Illustrator for tweaking existing svg charts (colors, text, layout, etc.). But due to the lack of this tool Inkscape currently requires an extra step to create the charts with another application (e.g. the R project for statistical computing).
I looked at tutorials to create extensions. I think that the logic could be quite easily implemented (i.e. calculating scales, displaying the shapes). But there doesn't seem to be a spreadsheet widget for the UI, which makes it a no-go if users can't input a few simple numbers manually.
Any idea how difficult it would be to create this extension ?
Cheers,
Pierre.
Hi,
Probably fairly easy: https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts should be included in 0.93
Cheers,
Interesting, I didn't know about this extension. I guess I could try and extend it a bit.
No spreadsheet in the UI though, I wish there was a way to implement this.
Thanks,
Pierre.
2017-01-07 11:33 GMT+01:00 Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3080...>:
Hi,
Probably fairly easy: https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts should be included in 0.93
Cheers,
Marc
On 01/07/2017 09:57 AM, Pierre Massat wrote:
Dear all,
I know I should be sending this to the dev list, but I'm not a member and I'm feeling lazy.
In Illustrator there's a tool to import data in a spreadsheet, and create basic charts from that. It's very handy for people who do data-visualization. I would think that Inkscape is just as good as Illustrator for tweaking existing svg charts (colors, text, layout, etc.). But due to the lack of this tool Inkscape currently requires an extra step to create the charts with another application (e.g. the R project for statistical computing).
I looked at tutorials to create extensions. I think that the logic could be quite easily implemented (i.e. calculating scales, displaying the shapes). But there doesn't seem to be a spreadsheet widget for the UI, which makes it a no-go if users can't input a few simple numbers
manually.
Any idea how difficult it would be to create this extension ?
Cheers,
Pierre.
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Extensions are written in python, so it's possible, but you'll need to include packages that can read whatever speadsheet format you're interested in (maybe https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyexcel/ for xls and ods)
On 01/07/2017 12:10 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
Interesting, I didn't know about this extension. I guess I could try and extend it a bit.
No spreadsheet in the UI though, I wish there was a way to implement this.
Thanks,
Pierre.
2017-01-07 11:33 GMT+01:00 Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3080... mailto:marc@...3080...>:
Hi, Probably fairly easy: https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts <https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts> should be included in 0.93 Cheers, -- Marc On 01/07/2017 09:57 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: > Dear all, > > I know I should be sending this to the dev list, but I'm not a member > and I'm feeling lazy. > > In Illustrator there's a tool to import data in a spreadsheet, and > create basic charts from that. It's very handy for people who do > data-visualization. > I would think that Inkscape is just as good as Illustrator for tweaking > existing svg charts (colors, text, layout, etc.). But due to the lack of > this tool Inkscape currently requires an extra step to create the charts > with another application (e.g. the R project for statistical computing). > > I looked at tutorials to create extensions. I think that the logic could > be quite easily implemented (i.e. calculating scales, displaying the > shapes). But there doesn't seem to be a spreadsheet widget for the UI, > which makes it a no-go if users can't input a few simple numbers manually. > > Any idea how difficult it would be to create this extension ? > > Cheers, > > Pierre. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>
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The extension you mentioned earlier already does importing spreadsheets. What Illustrators has is a spreadsheet like interface in the UI, like a small table with cells that can be edited. This would be very handy, but as I wrote in my original post Inkscape doesn't seem to make this type of UI element easy to create (which is OK, but makes the creation of extension that mimics Illustrator more difficult).
2017-01-07 12:44 GMT+01:00 Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3080...>:
Extensions are written in python, so it's possible, but you'll need to include packages that can read whatever speadsheet format you're interested in (maybe https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyexcel/ for xls and ods)
On 01/07/2017 12:10 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
Interesting, I didn't know about this extension. I guess I could try and extend it a bit.
No spreadsheet in the UI though, I wish there was a way to implement
this.
Thanks,
Pierre.
2017-01-07 11:33 GMT+01:00 Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3080... mailto:marc@...3080...>:
Hi, Probably fairly easy: https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts <https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts> should be included in 0.93 Cheers, -- Marc On 01/07/2017 09:57 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: > Dear all, > > I know I should be sending this to the dev list, but I'm not amember
> and I'm feeling lazy. > > In Illustrator there's a tool to import data in a spreadsheet, and > create basic charts from that. It's very handy for people who do > data-visualization. > I would think that Inkscape is just as good as Illustrator for tweaking > existing svg charts (colors, text, layout, etc.). But due to the lack of > this tool Inkscape currently requires an extra step to create the charts > with another application (e.g. the R project for statistical computing). > > I looked at tutorials to create extensions. I think that the logic could > be quite easily implemented (i.e. calculating scales, displayingthe
> shapes). But there doesn't seem to be a spreadsheet widget for theUI,
> which makes it a no-go if users can't input a few simple numbers manually. > > Any idea how difficult it would be to create this extension ? > > Cheers, > > Pierre. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
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Actually, it's included in 0.92 already: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/0.92.x/files/head:/share/...
Can read CSV files, and produce bar and pie charts.
Regards, Maren
Am 07.01.2017 um 15:24 schrieb Pierre Massat:
The extension you mentioned earlier already does importing spreadsheets. What Illustrators has is a spreadsheet like interface in the UI, like a small table with cells that can be edited. This would be very handy, but as I wrote in my original post Inkscape doesn't seem to make this type of UI element easy to create (which is OK, but makes the creation of extension that mimics Illustrator more difficult).
2017-01-07 12:44 GMT+01:00 Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3080... mailto:marc@...3080...>:
Extensions are written in python, so it's possible, but you'll need to include packages that can read whatever speadsheet format you're interested in (maybe https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyexcel/ <https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyexcel/> for xls and ods) On 01/07/2017 12:10 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: > Interesting, I didn't know about this extension. > I guess I could try and extend it a bit. > > No spreadsheet in the UI though, I wish there was a way to implement this. > > Thanks, > > Pierre. > > 2017-01-07 11:33 GMT+01:00 Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3080... <mailto:marc@...3080...> > <mailto:marc@...3080... <mailto:marc@...3080...>>>: > > Hi, > > Probably fairly easy: https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts <https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts> > <https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts <https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts>> should be > included in 0.93 > > Cheers, > -- > Marc > > On 01/07/2017 09:57 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I know I should be sending this to the dev list, but I'm not a member > > and I'm feeling lazy. > > > > In Illustrator there's a tool to import data in a spreadsheet, and > > create basic charts from that. It's very handy for people who do > > data-visualization. > > I would think that Inkscape is just as good as Illustrator for > tweaking > > existing svg charts (colors, text, layout, etc.). But due to the > lack of > > this tool Inkscape currently requires an extra step to create the > charts > > with another application (e.g. the R project for statistical > computing). > > > > I looked at tutorials to create extensions. I think that the logic > could > > be quite easily implemented (i.e. calculating scales, displaying the > > shapes). But there doesn't seem to be a spreadsheet widget for the UI, > > which makes it a no-go if users can't input a few simple numbers > manually. > > > > Any idea how difficult it would be to create this extension ? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Pierre. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-user mailing list > > Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user> > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user> > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>
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Indeed! It's there.
Go to Extensions > Render > Nice Charts...
--Victor Westmann
2017-01-07 11:31 GMT-08:00 Maren Hachmann <maren@...3112...>:
Actually, it's included in 0.92 already: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/0.92.x/ files/head:/share/extensions/
Can read CSV files, and produce bar and pie charts.
Regards, Maren
Am 07.01.2017 um 15:24 schrieb Pierre Massat:
The extension you mentioned earlier already does importing spreadsheets. What Illustrators has is a spreadsheet like interface in the UI, like a small table with cells that can be edited. This would be very handy, but as I wrote in my original post Inkscape doesn't seem to make this type of UI element easy to create (which is OK, but makes the creation of extension that mimics Illustrator more difficult).
2017-01-07 12:44 GMT+01:00 Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3080... mailto:marc@...3080...>:
Extensions are written in python, so it's possible, but you'll needto
include packages that can read whatever speadsheet format you're interested in (maybe https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyexcel/ <https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyexcel/> for xls and ods) On 01/07/2017 12:10 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: > Interesting, I didn't know about this extension. > I guess I could try and extend it a bit. > > No spreadsheet in the UI though, I wish there was a way toimplement this.
> > Thanks, > > Pierre. > > 2017-01-07 11:33 GMT+01:00 Marc Jeanmougin <marc@...3080...> <mailto:marc@...3080... <mailto:marc@...3080...>>>: > > Hi, > > Probably fairly easy: https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts <https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts> > <https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts <https://github.com/Florianjw/NiceCharts>> should be > included in 0.93 > > Cheers, > -- > Marc > > On 01/07/2017 09:57 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I know I should be sending this to the dev list, but I'm not a member > > and I'm feeling lazy. > > > > In Illustrator there's a tool to import data in a spreadsheet, and > > create basic charts from that. It's very handy for peoplewho do
> > data-visualization. > > I would think that Inkscape is just as good as Illustratorfor
> tweaking > > existing svg charts (colors, text, layout, etc.). But due tothe
> lack of > > this tool Inkscape currently requires an extra step to create the > charts > > with another application (e.g. the R project for statistical > computing). > > > > I looked at tutorials to create extensions. I think that the logic > could > > be quite easily implemented (i.e. calculating scales, displaying the > > shapes). But there doesn't seem to be a spreadsheet widget for the UI, > > which makes it a no-go if users can't input a few simplenumbers
> manually. > > > > Any idea how difficult it would be to create this extension ? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Pierre. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world'smost
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Graphing is interesting. It'd be fun to try and use one of the web browser packages to use d3 or one of the many graphing libraries to generate the visualisations and use the svg directly in inkscape.
So many things which are theoretically possible.
On Sat, 2017-01-07 at 15:24 +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
The extension you mentioned earlier already does importing spreadsheets. What Illustrators has is a spreadsheet like interface in the UI, like a small table with cells that can be edited. This would be very handy, but as I wrote in my original post Inkscape doesn't seem to make this type of UI element easy to create (which is OK, but makes the creation of extension that mimics Illustrator more difficult).
A proper way of developing this would be to have a hook into libreoffice calc, such that the data rows/cols are all in calc and inkscape does the visualisation.
Having two windows of two programs open and sharing data is harder than shuffling around a filename, but it's much more preferable to recreating widgets.
I'm not entirely sure if it'd even be possible to call a python script and have it use UNO to interact with an open spreadsheet, but it'd be really great if it could be made possible. An inkscape extension plus a libreoffice extension packaged together as a separate lib.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
@Martin : I have no clue how to go about using libreoffice to communicate with Inkscape. What do you mean by "use on of the web browser packages" ? I happen to use d3.js everyday. My current workflow is : 1) draw svg stuff with D3 in the browser, 2) export it as an svg file, 3) edit it in Inkscape.
Having an extension working like Illustrator's would remove the first two steps.
Regards,
Pierre.
2017-01-08 23:05 GMT+01:00 Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...>:
Graphing is interesting. It'd be fun to try and use one of the web browser packages to use d3 or one of the many graphing libraries to generate the visualisations and use the svg directly in inkscape.
So many things which are theoretically possible.
On Sat, 2017-01-07 at 15:24 +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
The extension you mentioned earlier already does importing spreadsheets. What Illustrators has is a spreadsheet like interface in the UI, like a small table with cells that can be edited. This would be very handy, but as I wrote in my original post Inkscape doesn't seem to make this type of UI element easy to create (which is OK, but makes the creation of extension that mimics Illustrator more difficult).
A proper way of developing this would be to have a hook into libreoffice calc, such that the data rows/cols are all in calc and inkscape does the visualisation.
Having two windows of two programs open and sharing data is harder than shuffling around a filename, but it's much more preferable to recreating widgets.
I'm not entirely sure if it'd even be possible to call a python script and have it use UNO to interact with an open spreadsheet, but it'd be really great if it could be made possible. An inkscape extension plus a libreoffice extension packaged together as a separate lib.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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On Wed, 2017-01-11 at 11:20 +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
Having an extension working like Illustrator's would remove the first two steps.
There are programable browsers for chrome and firefox backends which libraries such as phantomjs use to do 'renderings' of pages. I've used such a thing to generate svg output of pages and while it's not quick, you are able to then use any js/webbrowser based creator.
Martin,
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