MenTaLguY wrote: ahh, nice tip. heathenx

On Thu, 31 May 2007 22:34:14 +0200, MenTaLguY wrote: news.gmane.org provides both web-based and NNTP interfaces; I use this for a lot of mailing-list type interaction. Personally, I think a lot of fragmentation of a community by everyone and their dog starting an online forum is a bad thing - makes it hard for newbies to come in and find what they're looking for. Consolidation is a much better option, IMHO. Jim

On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:01:51 -0400, John R. Culleton wrote: Your ISP doesn't have to subscribe to news.gmane.org - you can point a newsreader directly at it. I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here, in fact....for web-based "forums" (which I personally consider to be something of an oxymoron) your ISP isn't involved other than providing a pipe to the 'net so you can access it. Jim

MenTaLguY wrote: I use http://www.nabble.com/ which is also quite nice. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/There-is-a-forum-interface-to-this-mailing-list.-tf... Sent from the Inkscape - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 22:45:03 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: Bryce, my apologies if I stepped over the line - that was certainly not my intention. :-) Jim

I haven't really looked at any forums for Inkscape, so perhaps take this with a grain of salt. I subscribed to this mailing list once before and ended up cancelling the subscription becasue there wasn't really all that much discussion of Inkscape with regard to Art or technique. What there was was a lot of technical and/or developer related stuff, such as why can't I export eps/pdf or whatever. The list is still pretty much the same, tho I have picked up a few useful things. I can see the need for one or two centralized forums (and yes, I think more could be divisive), something along the lines of what GimpTalk is for Gimp, a place with multiple areas, some technically related and some that are more for the artistic side of things, and, of course, a tutorial area. I haven't really seen a good centralized source of Inkscape tutorials, but maybe I haven't looked in the right place. I like to use Inkscape in conjunction with both Gimp and Blender. Inkscapes interface for dealing with paths is much superior to that of Gimp, so often I make a path in Inkscape and then import it into Gimp for further manipulation...perhaps some of the stuff I do could be done all in Inkscape (but I lack the knowlege/skill to do it) http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4962/darktiaramz1.jpg The above link is to something that was done with the approach mentioned. Inkscape into Blender is also very intersting. I was able to make a 3D nautilus shell in Blender by importing a spiral made in Inkscape into Blender and then applying a bevel object and a taper object to it. To me, this mailing list isn't as good as a forum would be...you can't post in-line images, and there doesn't seem to be as much discussion about "how-to" type stuff, except as it relates to the more technical aspects of the program from a development standpoint, and I think that is why there is so much talk of people wanting to start a forum, there is a lack of, for want of a better term..."artistic fellowship". Again, perhaps there already exists such a community somewhere for Inkscape, but I haven't run across it yet. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/

On Jun 1, 2007, at 5:17 AM, Elwin Estle wrote: In essence, a forum is nothing but an alternate interface for threadded messages. It can easily be using a mailing list as the main back-end data store. Or a newsgroup could be used. Technically there is very little difference, and the format of the contents is identical. Only the access methods differ for mail vs. newsgroup. What problems you are calling out here are just what people are sending to the list, rather than limitations of the list itself. I've seen in-line images, and "how-to" stuff is really up to those on the list to post. If users want to discuss "how-to" stuff and such, the inkscape-user list is a very good place to do so. The group over on DeviantArt seems to be a little more of a showcase place/gallery that people display work on. And, of course, the hard-core tech style discussions are welcome on the inkscape-devel list. (And for real-word example of a functional and robust artistic community "forum" based on standard messaging, take a peek at http:// news.povray.org/groups/ )