Hey Devs,
I've got a new feature (uncommitted) to show:
http://blip.tv/martin-owens/on-canvas-alignment-feature-for-inkscape-6613286
I'd like to know what you think and your feedback could be key to deciding where my new handles would fit with people's workflows.
Excited, Martin Owens
Powerfull and intuitive! Great idea.
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
Hey Devs,
I've got a new feature (uncommitted) to show:
http://blip.tv/martin-owens/on-canvas-alignment-feature-for-inkscape-6613286
I'd like to know what you think and your feedback could be key to deciding where my new handles would fit with people's workflows.
Excited, Martin Owens
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i think is a very useful idea, great work speed improvement ^^ and i love the thing about the drag line for alignment! about the feedback, the handlers looks good for me, but i suppose that "always visible" can be confusing. Maybe they could be shown pressing a key (alt or alt-gr)
El 08/07/13 09:04, Maarten van der Velde escribió:
Powerfull and intuitive! Great idea.
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It looks great to me. Two things (apologies if these were covered in the video - I've got no audio here, so can only go on the visuals I saw):
1) I think it needs a toggle on the toolbar to show/hide the handles. Particularly when dealing with small objects I could see them getting in the way.
2) Will this work for nodes as well as objects? If so, the suggestion above applies doubly! If not... that would be a great addition for the future ;)
Cheers,
Mark
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
Hey Devs,
I've got a new feature (uncommitted) to show:
http://blip.tv/martin-owens/on-canvas-alignment-feature-for-inkscape-6613286
I'd like to know what you think and your feedback could be key to deciding where my new handles would fit with people's workflows.
Excited, Martin Owens
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Great feature indeed! I'd also suggest for them to be enabled with a key (Alt-Gr seems like a cool one).
Just a suggestion about the draggeable align reference. It would be handy if that could snap to borders or centers of objects that cross it's path (or that they respect the snap-to options enabled, could also be snap-to-grid)
Grtz, Jurgen.
On 08-07-13 08:35, Martin Owens wrote:
Hey Devs,
I've got a new feature (uncommitted) to show:
http://blip.tv/martin-owens/on-canvas-alignment-feature-for-inkscape-6613286
I'd like to know what you think and your feedback could be key to deciding where my new handles would fit with people's workflows.
Excited, Martin Owens
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I tested it a bit. I think it feels odd that with your desire to avoid opening the Align & Distribute dialog that the controls obey the "Relative to" selection there (such as if you choose Page). I would think it should align as if "Selection" was chosen there and then maybe make use of modifiers keys to allow to align to page and such. Otherwise, the control placement is odd imho but I don't have recommendations to improve it that don't involve putting them outside the resize handles.
Also, for anyone that has trunk checked out, you can just apply the diff from here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~doctormo/inkscape/align-handles/diff/12410 as opposed to checking out another copy.
Cheers, Josh
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
Hey Devs,
I've got a new feature (uncommitted) to show:
http://blip.tv/martin-owens/on-canvas-alignment-feature-for-inkscape-6613286
I'd like to know what you think and your feedback could be key to deciding where my new handles would fit with people's workflows.
Excited, Martin Owens
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On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 12:31 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
I tested it a bit. I think it feels odd that with your desire to avoid opening the Align & Distribute dialog that the controls obey the "Relative to" selection there (such as if you choose Page). I would think it should align as if "Selection" was chosen there and then maybe make use of modifiers keys to allow to align to page and such. Otherwise, the control placement is odd imho but I don't have recommendations to improve it that don't involve putting them outside the resize handles.
That's certainly the way I'd changed the code. The align-distribute code is a bit of a haystack, though I thought I'd forced the target to SELECTION when it aligns. Perhaps it obeys those options for the click option, certainly considered a bug.
Some good ideas. The actual appearance is perhaps the most critical part. I was thinking of an align selector hand, basically it would act just like the normal hand tool but with different nodes, One align mode one distribute mode. thoughts?
There's been a few requests for snapping too, but trying to work out how the snapping manager works so I can snap the drag point. The other handle operations do quite a complex dance with the snapping manager and it can't be as complex IMO.
Martin,
Hi Martin,
Haven't yet been able to look at your work, but if you need help with implementing the snapping then just let me know!
Diederik
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 12:31 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
I tested it a bit. I think it feels odd that with your desire to avoid opening the Align & Distribute dialog that the controls obey the "Relative to" selection there (such as if you choose Page). I would think it should align as if "Selection" was chosen there and then maybe make use of modifiers keys to allow to align to page and such. Otherwise, the control placement is odd imho but I don't have recommendations to improve it that don't involve putting them outside the resize handles.
That's certainly the way I'd changed the code. The align-distribute code is a bit of a haystack, though I thought I'd forced the target to SELECTION when it aligns. Perhaps it obeys those options for the click option, certainly considered a bug.
Some good ideas. The actual appearance is perhaps the most critical part. I was thinking of an align selector hand, basically it would act just like the normal hand tool but with different nodes, One align mode one distribute mode. thoughts?
There's been a few requests for snapping too, but trying to work out how the snapping manager works so I can snap the drag point. The other handle operations do quite a complex dance with the snapping manager and it can't be as complex IMO.
Martin,
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On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 23:02 +0200, Diederik van Lierop wrote:
Hi Martin,
Haven't yet been able to look at your work, but if you need help with implementing the snapping then just let me know!
I need help implementing snapping. :-) I'm on IRC as doctormon if you want to guide me through.
Martin,
+1 for me!
On 07/08/2013 12:50 PM, Martin Owens wrote:
I'd say make 'alignmetnt tool' (in the left pane) and let the user choose with thickbox/radio button how they want it to behave.
Depending on the way people use inkscape, they might want to select a different way of working. I'm usually not a fan of ever more features though thisone is so nicely thought trough and implemented. It's self explaining and intuitive. No learning curve, that's how it should be with many mote apps.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:43 AM, John Fisher <john.fisher@...3014...> wrote:
+1 for me!
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I'd say make 'alignmetnt tool' (in the left pane) and let the user choose with thickbox/radio button how they want it to behave.
Depending on the way people use inkscape, they might want to select a different way of working.
+1
This is a very interesting feature. Will be well come.
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2013/7/8 Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...>
Hey Devs,
I've got a new feature (uncommitted) to show:
http://blip.tv/martin-owens/on-canvas-alignment-feature-for-inkscape-6613286
I'd like to know what you think and your feedback could be key to deciding where my new handles would fit with people's workflows.
Excited, Martin Owens
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Alejandro Castillo
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Diederik van Lierop
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Edson Pfutzenreuter
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John Fisher
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Josh Andler
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Jurgen Gaeremyn
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Lars Behrens
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Maarten van der Velde
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Mark Crutch
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Martin Owens
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