How to integrate Inkscape dialogs into an only window?
Greetings I'm new to using Inkscape. I've noticed that dialogs and other floating stuff (e.g. the layer dialog) are open in different windows, so it gets uncomfortable switching from window to window. Maybe I've not made proper configuration. How can I get dialogs to be integrated with the main window. Help would be appreciated. God bless you.
Zelus et Radix wrote the following on 2/1/2008 9:56 AM:
Greetings I'm new to using Inkscape. I've noticed that dialogs and other floating stuff (e.g. the layer dialog) are open in different windows, so it gets uncomfortable switching from window to window. Maybe I've not made proper configuration. How can I get dialogs to be integrated with the main window. Help would be appreciated. God bless you.
The next version integrates the dialogs into the window. You can install version .46 to get it now but it's still being developed.
heathenx
Also, the behaviour/frustration of working with floating dialogs depends on what platform you're on. I use Inkscape on Linux primarily but also on XP. In Linux, the various dialogs float on top and I move them around or close them if they're in my way. I'm used to it and it works ok for me. However on XP, the various tool dialogs sink beneath the main drawing window as soon as I click on the main drawing window which makes bringing those dialogs back up a major frustration. I usually have to cycle through 20 windows to get the Fill & Stroke dialog back up on top. I'm assuming this has to do with the differences in window management between platforms.
I have 0.46 but haven't used it enough to know whether the dockable dialogs improve that or not.
I still think using Compiz to group the tool dialogs together is the best. Then you can just flip through them very quickly.
RQ
On Feb 1, 2008 9:59 AM, heathenx <heathenx@...155...> wrote:
The next version integrates the dialogs into the window. You can install version .46 to get it now but it's still being developed.
heathenx
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 10:07:22AM -0500, Richard Querin wrote:
Also, the behaviour/frustration of working with floating dialogs depends on what platform you're on.
I second that. I often hear Windows users complain about programs that use multiple windows for toolboxes and such, and I see where they're coming from. At work, when I have to use Windows, it's inconvenient mostly when I have Inkscape (or GIMP) as well as another window (usually, the document I'm drawing illustrations for): if I click on the other document's window on the taskbar to edit that, and then click on the Inkscape one to bring that to the front, the toolboxes end up left behind the other document. When I do this in Linux, I can make arbitrary windows be on top or group them, and then I don't have a problem; in fact, it is advantageous, because I have more control over where to put them and when to display them. My only problem is that I keep trying to press escape to get rid of them (particularly the Find dialog), which does nothing.
If your workflow is impeded by missing features in your window manager, you should complain to the supplier of the window manager. I think it's a shame that the hard-working and dedicated Inkscape authors have had to spend time working around misfeatures in third-party software; that said, I look forward to 0.46, and hope that dockable dialogs bring with them other benefits.
I agree with you. I have the same problem when using GIMP, and it gets even worse. Not only floating dialogs on specific features (such as color levels or filters), but also the three GIMP base windows: the main tools window, the second tab windows (including channels, layers, textures, etc.) and the canvas window are open separately, so one has to be sitching and switching from one to another. I thought it was GIMP's fault. By reading you I see it's Windows'. That's kind of ironic something named "Windows" has such a bad management of windows, isn't it?
2008/2/1, Daniel Hulme <art@...1790...>:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 10:07:22AM -0500, Richard Querin wrote:
Also, the behaviour/frustration of working with floating dialogs depends on what platform you're on.
I second that. I often hear Windows users complain about programs that use multiple windows for toolboxes and such, and I see where they're coming from. At work, when I have to use Windows, it's inconvenient mostly when I have Inkscape (or GIMP) as well as another window (usually, the document I'm drawing illustrations for): if I click on the other document's window on the taskbar to edit that, and then click on the Inkscape one to bring that to the front, the toolboxes end up left behind the other document. When I do this in Linux, I can make arbitrary windows be on top or group them, and then I don't have a problem; in fact, it is advantageous, because I have more control over where to put them and when to display them. My only problem is that I keep trying to press escape to get rid of them (particularly the Find dialog), which does nothing.
If your workflow is impeded by missing features in your window manager, you should complain to the supplier of the window manager. I think it's a shame that the hard-working and dedicated Inkscape authors have had to spend time working around misfeatures in third-party software; that said, I look forward to 0.46, and hope that dockable dialogs bring with them other benefits.
-- It's so hard to see the Sun with the truth in your eyes. http://surreal.istic.org/ Calm down, it's only ones and zeroes.
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You can dock gimp dialogs into one window along with the canvas...I think. A fews years ago I remember doing this. I think it was a plugin that I used. Perhaps do a google search and maybe it will turn up.
heathenx
Ocetalo wrote the following on 2/1/2008 10:44 AM:
I agree with you. I have the same problem when using GIMP, and it gets even worse. Not only floating dialogs on specific features (such as color levels or filters), but also the three GIMP base windows: the main tools window, the second tab windows (including channels, layers, textures, etc.) and the canvas window are open separately, so one has to be sitching and switching from one to another. I thought it was GIMP's fault. By reading you I see it's Windows'. That's kind of ironic something named "Windows" has such a bad management of windows, isn't it?
2008/2/1, Daniel Hulme <art@...1790... mailto:art@...1790...>:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 10:07:22AM -0500, Richard Querin wrote: > Also, the behaviour/frustration of working with floating dialogs > depends on what platform you're on. I second that. I often hear Windows users complain about programs that use multiple windows for toolboxes and such, and I see where they're coming from. At work, when I have to use Windows, it's inconvenient mostly when I have Inkscape (or GIMP) as well as another window (usually, the document I'm drawing illustrations for): if I click on the other document's window on the taskbar to edit that, and then click on the Inkscape one to bring that to the front, the toolboxes end up left behind the other document. When I do this in Linux, I can make arbitrary windows be on top or group them, and then I don't have a problem; in fact, it is advantageous, because I have more control over where to put them and when to display them. My only problem is that I keep trying to press escape to get rid of them (particularly the Find dialog), which does nothing. If your workflow is impeded by missing features in your window manager, you should complain to the supplier of the window manager. I think it's a shame that the hard-working and dedicated Inkscape authors have had to spend time working around misfeatures in third-party software; that said, I look forward to 0.46, and hope that dockable dialogs bring with them other benefits. -- It's so hard to see the Sun with the truth in your eyes. http://surreal.istic.org/ Calm down, it's only ones and zeroes.
Ah. Forget about my last post. I found what I was using in gimp a few years ago. It's here: http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=3892. It basically puts all of your gimp windows into a master window so that when minimizing and maximizing you only have one thing in your taskbar. I think I'll start using it again. Btw, I'm using the 3.0a version of it on WinXP. Nothing to install. Just drop two files in your gimp plug-ins directory.
Now...enough gimp talk. The Inkscape folks will likely ban me from the list. :P
heathenx
Ocetalo wrote the following on 2/1/2008 10:44 AM:
I agree with you. I have the same problem when using GIMP, and it gets even worse. Not only floating dialogs on specific features (such as color levels or filters), but also the three GIMP base windows: the main tools window, the second tab windows (including channels, layers, textures, etc.) and the canvas window are open separately, so one has to be sitching and switching from one to another. I thought it was GIMP's fault. By reading you I see it's Windows'. That's kind of ironic something named "Windows" has such a bad management of windows, isn't it?
2008/2/1, Daniel Hulme <art@...1790... mailto:art@...1790...>:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 10:07:22AM -0500, Richard Querin wrote: > Also, the behaviour/frustration of working with floating dialogs > depends on what platform you're on. I second that. I often hear Windows users complain about programs that use multiple windows for toolboxes and such, and I see where they're coming from. At work, when I have to use Windows, it's inconvenient mostly when I have Inkscape (or GIMP) as well as another window (usually, the document I'm drawing illustrations for): if I click on the other document's window on the taskbar to edit that, and then click on the Inkscape one to bring that to the front, the toolboxes end up left behind the other document. When I do this in Linux, I can make arbitrary windows be on top or group them, and then I don't have a problem; in fact, it is advantageous, because I have more control over where to put them and when to display them. My only problem is that I keep trying to press escape to get rid of them (particularly the Find dialog), which does nothing. If your workflow is impeded by missing features in your window manager, you should complain to the supplier of the window manager. I think it's a shame that the hard-working and dedicated Inkscape authors have had to spend time working around misfeatures in third-party software; that said, I look forward to 0.46, and hope that dockable dialogs bring with them other benefits. -- It's so hard to see the Sun with the truth in your eyes. http://surreal.istic.org/ Calm down, it's only ones and zeroes.
Great, heathenx! Thank you a lot. So useful. OK no more GIMP talk.
2008/2/1, heathenx <heathenx@...155...>:
Ah. Forget about my last post. I found what I was using in gimp a few years ago. It's here: http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=3892. It basically puts all of your gimp windows into a master window so that when minimizing and maximizing you only have one thing in your taskbar. I think I'll start using it again. Btw, I'm using the 3.0a version of it on WinXP. Nothing to install. Just drop two files in your gimp plug-ins directory.
Now...enough gimp talk. The Inkscape folks will likely ban me from the list. :P
heathenx
Ocetalo wrote the following on 2/1/2008 10:44 AM:
I agree with you. I have the same problem when using GIMP, and it gets even worse. Not only floating dialogs on specific features (such as color levels or filters), but also the three GIMP base windows: the main tools window, the second tab windows (including channels, layers, textures, etc.) and the canvas window are open separately, so one has to be sitching and switching from one to another. I thought it was GIMP's fault. By reading you I see it's Windows'. That's kind of ironic something named "Windows" has such a bad management of windows, isn't
it?
2008/2/1, Daniel Hulme <art@...1790... mailto:art@...1790...>:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 10:07:22AM -0500, Richard Querin wrote: > Also, the behaviour/frustration of working with floating dialogs > depends on what platform you're on. I second that. I often hear Windows users complain about programsthat
use multiple windows for toolboxes and such, and I see where they're coming from. At work, when I have to use Windows, it's inconvenient mostly when I have Inkscape (or GIMP) as well as another window (usually, the document I'm drawing illustrations for): if I click onthe
other document's window on the taskbar to edit that, and then clickon
the Inkscape one to bring that to the front, the toolboxes end upleft
behind the other document. When I do this in Linux, I can makearbitrary
windows be on top or group them, and then I don't have a problem; in fact, it is advantageous, because I have more control over where toput
them and when to display them. My only problem is that I keep tryingto
press escape to get rid of them (particularly the Find dialog),which
does nothing. If your workflow is impeded by missing features in your windowmanager,
you should complain to the supplier of the window manager. I thinkit's
a shame that the hard-working and dedicated Inkscape authors havehad to
spend time working around misfeatures in third-party software; that said, I look forward to 0.46, and hope that dockable dialogs bringwith
them other benefits. -- It's so hard to see the Sun with the truth in your eyes. http://surreal.istic.org/ Calm down, it's only ones andzeroes.
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