Being new to Inkscape, I have many questions.
I'm thinking that one of the advantages to Inkscape is that it is so well suported and is ideal in a classroom setting (with VERY limited budgets). My only problem to date is printing. Kids love to see their work and after the hours they put into their drawings, they want something to take home. I just can't seem to get their work on paper.
So.... is there enough of a need for a "How to Print Documents" tutorial? I'm referring to custom sized documents since there appears to be no problem printing 8 x 11 etc. documents. And, would an Inkscape expert tackle such a job?
Is Inkscape used professionally in graphics art? If so, wouldn't customers want to see their products as hardcopies? Pros, how do you get their jobs printed? I would guess that there are customers who order very odd-sized documents, etc.
Thank you for the information.
jt
this is probably a stopgap suggestion, and it's far from ideal, but i export to .png and then print from The Gimp - which seems to print well, flexibly and consistently (it doesn't do cmyk for which i've used the Separate plugin, but that's irrelevant here)
spiff
Jon jts wrote:
Is Inkscape used professionally in graphics art? If so, wouldn't customers want to see their products as hardcopies? Pros, how do you get their jobs printed? I would guess that there are customers who order very odd-sized documents, etc.
Thank you so much for the suggestion! But... I've already tried that. I also tried saving svg as a ps file, open file in GSView and then print. Results were the same - the first page would print and then stop.
I tried converting svg to pdf, used AcrobatReader to open and print. On the print set-up page, I could see the whole document but, again, only (in this case) up to 14 inches of the document. The rest of the document (10 inches) showed on the picture but was darkened out (the custom sized document was 8.5 x 24 inches) and did not print.
Really, my only question throughout all of this is how do I get a print of a custom sized document???? And, now, why don't the great suggestions, that work for others, not work in this case? HP tells me that its the applications, that the printers are capable of printing really long documents on banner paper.
I can get banners to print using far less powerful applications then Inkscape. I can also get banners printed using Ragtime 5 Solo but the pages don't line up which means that I have to cut and tape the pages together. Inkscape seems to so powerful but..... (thus the need, at least for me, for a printing tutorial.
Thank you again for all the help.
jt
spiff wrote:
this is probably a stopgap suggestion, and it's far from ideal, but i export to .png and then print from The Gimp - which seems to print well, flexibly and consistently (it doesn't do cmyk for which i've used the Separate plugin, but that's irrelevant here)
spiff
Jon jts wrote:
Is Inkscape used professionally in graphics art? If so, wouldn't customers want to see their products as hardcopies? Pros, how do you get their jobs printed? I would guess that there are customers who order very odd-sized documents, etc.
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On 9/8/06, Jon jts <jts99@...2000...> wrote:
Thank you so much for the suggestion! But... I've already tried that. I also tried saving svg as a ps file, open file in GSView and then print. Results were the same - the first page would print and then stop.
I tried converting svg to pdf, used AcrobatReader to open and print. On the print set-up page, I could see the whole document but, again, only (in this case) up to 14 inches of the document. The rest of the document (10 inches) showed on the picture but was darkened out (the custom sized document was 8.5 x 24 inches) and did not print.
Really, my only question throughout all of this is how do I get a print of a custom sized document???? And, now, why don't the great suggestions, that work for others, not work in this case? HP tells me that its the applications, that the printers are capable of printing really long documents on banner paper.
I can get banners to print using far less powerful applications then Inkscape. I can also get banners printed using Ragtime 5 Solo but the pages don't line up which means that I have to cut and tape the pages together. Inkscape seems to so powerful but..... (thus the need, at least for me, for a printing tutorial.
Thank you again for all the help.
jt
Maybe a shot in the dark here, but maybe your printer settings should be modified too? I'm unfamiliar with the printer model you are using, so I'm not so sure about this with that particular model, but if I recall correctly, there are some models of printers which will not allow you print out custom sized documents unless you either specify how may pages will the "document" span and tell the printer to use continous paper feed instead of let it manage this on its own.
I find it rather odd that not even printing from a PDF worked for you, as the PDF is virtually a "file render" of a print-out (well, postcript is too), and (I'm not sure, but I believe you are using an HP printer?) I'm certain that HP printers do support PostScript just fine, so maybe there's a setting in the driver or printer dialog that you have to enable to be able to print larger documents spanning multiple pages?
Only a suggestion.
Thank you for the response.
Yes, its an HP printer... and I'm also certain that HP printers do support PostScript just fine (HP support didn't say otherwise either).
So.... were is that darn setting??? Why wouldn't Acrobat Reader show the whole document in the printer set-up window? Why does it show 10 inches in dark indicating that that section will not be printed?
jt
Thetargos wrote:
On 9/8/06, Jon jts <jts99@...2000...> wrote:
document (10 inches) showed on the picture but was darkened out (the pages don't line up which means that I have to cut and tape the pages together. Inkscape seems to so powerful but..... (thus the need, at least for me, for a printing tutorial.
Thank you again for all the help.
jt
Maybe a shot in the dark here, but maybe your printer settings should be modified too? I'm unfamiliar with the printer model you are using, so I'm not so sure about this with that particular model, but if I recall correctly, there are some models of printers which will not allow you print out custom sized documents unless you either specify how may pages will the "document" span and tell the printer to use continous paper feed instead of let it manage this on its own.
I find it rather odd that not even printing from a PDF worked for you, as the PDF is virtually a "file render" of a print-out (well, postcript is too), and (I'm not sure, but I believe you are using an HP printer?) I'm certain that HP printers do support PostScript just fine, so maybe there's a setting in the driver or printer dialog that you have to enable to be able to print larger documents spanning multiple pages?
Only a suggestion.
Most, if not all, HPs are PCL 5 or PCL 6.
HPs, and most laser printers, cannot print the whole page. If I remember correctly they need a .25" border around the page.
Rob..
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 23:02 +0200, Jon jts wrote:
Thank you for the response.
Yes, its an HP printer... and I'm also certain that HP printers do support PostScript just fine (HP support didn't say otherwise either).
So.... were is that darn setting??? Why wouldn't Acrobat Reader show the whole document in the printer set-up window? Why does it show 10 inches in dark indicating that that section will not be printed?
jt
On Friday 08 September 2006 14:10, Robert Davis wrote:
Most, if not all, HPs are PCL 5 or PCL 6.
HPs, and most laser printers, cannot print the whole page. If I remember correctly they need a .25" border around the page.
Rob..
Your right. My HP Laserjet IIIP needs a 1/2" left and right sides, 1/3" at the top and 2/3" at the bottom. This varies a little but not much between different printers. Usually the printer specifications will give these numbers or the printerable area numbers
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 23:02 +0200, Jon jts wrote:
Thank you for the response.
Yes, its an HP printer... and I'm also certain that HP printers do support PostScript just fine (HP support didn't say otherwise either).
So.... were is that darn setting??? Why wouldn't Acrobat Reader show the whole document in the printer set-up window? Why does it show 10 inches in dark indicating that that section will not be printed?
jt
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Margin settings can affect printing to the extent of this problem? I believe I had a margin setting of 1/4 to 1/2 inch around the document. Margin settings would prevent Acrobat Reader (and Inkscape & GSView) from printing the entire document?
jt
Russbucket wrote:
On Friday 08 September 2006 14:10, Robert Davis wrote:
Most, if not all, HPs are PCL 5 or PCL 6.
HPs, and most laser printers, cannot print the whole page. If I remember correctly they need a .25" border around the page.
Rob..
Your right. My HP Laserjet IIIP needs a 1/2" left and right sides, 1/3" at the top and 2/3" at the bottom. This varies a little but not much between different printers. Usually the printer specifications will give these numbers or the printerable area numbers
jt
-- Russ
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Jon jts escribió:
Margin settings can affect printing to the extent of this problem? I believe I had a margin setting of 1/4 to 1/2 inch around the document. Margin settings would prevent Acrobat Reader (and Inkscape & GSView) from printing the entire document?
jt
Russbucket wrote:
On Friday 08 September 2006 14:10, Robert Davis wrote:
Most, if not all, HPs are PCL 5 or PCL 6.
HPs, and most laser printers, cannot print the whole page. If I remember correctly they need a .25" border around the page.
Rob..
Your right. My HP Laserjet IIIP needs a 1/2" left and right sides, 1/3" at the top and 2/3" at the bottom. This varies a little but not much between different printers. Usually the printer specifications will give these numbers or the printerable area numbers
jt
-- Russ
I'm quite puzzled by this problem you are having, I must admit. Especially since you have said you were able to print banners from other applications on your current printer (HP) which does not take into account the size of the paper (or in the printer jargon, media) and margins. I'm terribly sorry I can't be of much assistance as I'm running Linux and not Windows... I will, however, try to boot into Windows and see what special properties have to be set. I've got an HP printer which attaches itself to the network, so I can print from any computer in the network. I have not set it up on my long forgotten Windows 2000 partition, but I'm puzzled enough by this problem of yours that I will try. If you could send me (off list) an attachment with the image you are trying to print, I'm willing to try to print it at home on this HP printer... The model I've got is the Desk Jet 6127 with JetDirect (aka, network connection), I will, however have to see if I have paper for continuous feed... (I believe I do)
I went ahead an booted into Windows. Man was this installation OLD or what? I found out that it still holds a previous installation of an HP DeskJet 920 printer, as such I went ahead and checked a few things from the print dialog box (standard Windows dialog for printing) and toyed around for the printer configuration. It turns out that despite the size of the drawing in Inkscape, I could set the size of the paper to print to. The default (since I'm on a Spanish install of Windows) is set to A4 (when will they learn that 95% of spanish speakers live in America and not Europe? *sigh*) anyway, I was able to change the paper size to "papel continuo 8.5x11 pulgadas" which roughly translates to "continous feed 8.5x11 in", plus there is a small check box to allow printing banners... I attach a screenshot with some comments on it (basically since it is in spanish)... I'm not sure if your particular model of HP printer supports any of these, but I thought it would be worth a try... In the attached image you will see that at least for my currently installed printer it is possible to set it so it can print banners. I'm not sure if this will still require the application to state the number of "pages" the banner will span, or if the printer is able to "make it out" on its own.
Good luck!
Thetargos, thank you so much for your help and interest!!
I am using an HP Deskjet 5650 printer. When I print my document (media - thanks for letting me know), which is a custom size, I am limited by the printer set-up page (HP assures me I can print banners with the settings I list) choices: I select: letter paper (11x8.5), and for paper choice, I select banner paper (I use the settings sent to me by HP, and landscape. The results are the same, even though the paper size is, lets say, 24 inches, only 11 inches prints (standard paper size). There isn't a "print banner" box to check (only the banner paper setting).
I noticed on the Inkscape wiki page that there was a poll concerning printing from Inkscape. I vote a HUGE YES!!! for better printing support. That tells me there are others out there with printing problems...
Thank you so much for your help. I really must resolve this one way or another.
jt
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I went ahead an booted into Windows. Man was this installation OLD or what? I found out that it still holds a previous installation of an HP DeskJet 920 printer, as such I went ahead and checked a few things from the print dialog box (standard Windows dialog for printing) and toyed around for the printer configuration. It turns out that despite the size of the drawing in Inkscape, I could set the size of the paper to print to. The default (since I'm on a Spanish install of Windows) is set to A4 (when will they learn that 95% of spanish speakers live in America and not Europe? *sigh*) anyway, I was able to change the paper size to "papel continuo 8.5x11 pulgadas" which roughly translates to "continous feed 8.5x11 in", plus there is a small check box to allow printing banners... I attach a screenshot with some comments on it (basically since it is in spanish)... I'm not sure if your particular model of HP printer supports any of these, but I thought it would be worth a try... In the attached image you will see that at least for my currently installed printer it is possible to set it so it can print banners. I'm not sure if this will still require the application to state the number of "pages" the banner will span, or if the printer is able to "make it out" on its own.
Good luck!
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