Feedback: * There are admins, because django itself has admins. But they are the website's admins, not specific to the forum. (so inherited admins) * Regular members information, complaints, and etiquette should appear before moderator team information. Because more people will be regular and this is the info they will need first. * The forum etiquette is similar to the "Ask Smart Questions" pages for the chat. * There isn't anything about posting attachments, or videos, either moderating them (i.e. family friendly only) or if there would be limitations to posting content such as file formats (svg, png?, pdf?), amount of space quota (currently 10MB for normal users) or if certain forums will be moderated for different kinds of images/videos. * Should animated gifs be encouraged for people explaining a problem? They can be really useful on the developer side. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Wed, 2019-03-13 at 23:07 -0600, brynn wrote: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/content/blob/master/articles/Forum%20...

Thanks Brynn, No, just read over it again and see if we can harmonise them; making sure there's no glaring omissions. No NSFW section, we don't have any age checking or viewer limiters. Formats are up to the forum, I'm guessing no limits. All that's needed is for a reasonable quota to exist, be set to a group and then add the users to that group so they get to have that quota. For example moderators are easy. 200MB for them. Prolific answerers are a bit harder because they're not a group, but doable. Say 100MB? they can always delete their large files later if them want to. Say 20MB for regular users for now? Best Regards, Martin Owens

Hi Brynn, The quota is useful in terms of just protecting the server from overload. We could raise it now that the server has a lot more disk space. We currently have 50GB free, and we could probably clean the disk to reclaim some of that too. Say if someone who posted twice, got through the queue and then created a script to upload 100TB of tiny svg files.... the server would fall over and we'd have quite a job removing all the files. (this is almost certain not to happen of course) We'll just top the quota at something reasonable for people who post a lot. A mentor's team sounds like a great addition. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2019-03-17 at 11:11 -0600, brynn wrote:

* Age requirements * Time availability It also mentions requiring previous experience as a forum moderator (on an external forum I suppose?) I take it you expect there's going to be plenty enough people with past experience? Well, there always has been enough people with past experience. We're kind of in a new world, with the old forum members not wanting to participate. It would be so very time intensive to teach someone who has never moderated before. But it might become necessary. It's a bridge we'll have to cross if we come to it. I'm not sure how we could fact check an age requirement for moderators. I see the requirement for experience as a much stronger indication of maturity than age. But if there's some legal reason for it, we could mention age. No problem mentioning the time. It's mostly as much time as the volunteer has to offer, but I can come up with an estimate. #3: On mailing lists, I've found the phrase "Let's all keep discussions civil" to work well and have the desired effect, and would suggest including that phrasing here too. In addition to Inactive Moderators, can you add some guidance on what steps to do if a moderator is not behaving acceptably? I'm imagining this might either be a unanimous vote of the other moderators, or perhaps if that won't work, some kind of escalation to a higher authority, or something. I'm imagining this will be exceedingly rare, but having a process spelled out might help it be even more rare. ;-) Yes, "civil" sounds good. I'll put it in. Well, the CoC is specific about a complaint about a moderator. ("If you believe you have been unfairly penalized by a moderator, you may contact Inkscape's board. Decisions of the board are final.") Are you talking about other moderators taking some kind of action (well, demoting that moderator, I guess)? Or maybe just a mutual mentoring of each other? I envision moderators collaborating as much as possible - we even have a board only for moderators. I would hope the collaboration would keep us mostly all on the same page. It's so hard to think in terms of the worst case scenario, when as a whole, that has been very rare. I agree that it's good to have it covered. I just find it hard to write about it, when so many potential situations have never happened. And they have so many potential solutions. I think some text may be worth adding here regarding, "What if I feel a moderator is treating me unfairly?" Escalating to the CoC is appropriate for major issues, but for minor complaints about a moderator it may be better if there is some guidance on how to address it within the forum moderation team. The Forum Etiquette section is great, and I wonder if it should be at the top of the document, since that's probably what you want *everyone* to read. Unless your plan is to have this officially live here, but cut and paste it into appropriate areas of the forum. Hhmm.... Is this the same question as just above? Oh I see, you just want it written into the complaint section too? Yes, Martin wants the Etiquette section switched around too. Will do! Hhmm, would it work to copy/paste the relevant parts of the CoC into the Regular Members section and Complain section? I'm not sure. But I can think of a couple of clarifications I can add anyway. Aaww, and here I thought it was almost finished. Or do you mean build on over the years? As I said in my reply to Martin, I don't know where it's supposed to live. I think it would work well to have a Forum Moderators team (on the website Teams page) and this document would be the Charter. On the other hand, as a governing document (as it were), perhaps SFC should hold it? Thanks for your input, Bryce! brynn -----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 9:47 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape User Community ; Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] rules and guidelines for new forum - first draft On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:07:14PM -0600, brynn wrote: Yay! It's awesome seeing this task has come along so well. "Prerequisites for being a moderator" * Age requirements * Time availability It also mentions requiring previous experience as a forum moderator (on an external forum I suppose?) I take it you expect there's going to be plenty enough people with past experience? "Moderator Duties and Responsibilities" #3: On mailing lists, I've found the phrase "Let's all keep discussions civil" to work well and have the desired effect, and would suggest including that phrasing here too. In addition to Inactive Moderators, can you add some guidance on what steps to do if a moderator is not behaving acceptably? I'm imagining this might either be a unanimous vote of the other moderators, or perhaps if that won't work, some kind of escalation to a higher authority, or something. I'm imagining this will be exceedingly rare, but having a process spelled out might help it be even more rare. ;-) "Complaints" I think some text may be worth adding here regarding, "What if I feel a moderator is treating me unfairly?" Escalating to the CoC is appropriate for major issues, but for minor complaints about a moderator it may be better if there is some guidance on how to address it within the forum moderation team. The Forum Etiquette section is great, and I wonder if it should be at the top of the document, since that's probably what you want *everyone* to read. Unless your plan is to have this officially live here, but cut and paste it into appropriate areas of the forum. Thanks for working on this, it reads very easy and as a lot of common sense. It'll make a great foundation to build on. Bryce