Dear Inkers,
I'm wondering if tere is a more intuitive way to draw a perfect round circle and center it at t point where i start drawing it.
now when i make a circle then it's edge is where i start to draw, then it becomes an oval, i need to resize, then replace it, siee if it is centered since the auto centering tool doesn't really snap right.
Every time i draw a circle i would expect that-
When i start to draw, thats the center point. Where i stop, is the edge. ...and that should be all
Klik drag klik a circle at the exact spot where i wanted it, and at the exact size, and NOT an oval..
Is there something i'm not aware of? Or a config setting to get a more intuitive behaviour for this?
Kind Regards,
Mano
Hi Mano
Hold the control key down while drawing the circle.
HTH-Patrick
On 11/19/2012 01:53 PM, || ΣΖΟ || wrote:
Dear Inkers,
I'm wondering if tere is a more intuitive way to draw a perfect round circle and center it at t point where i start drawing it.
now when i make a circle then it's edge is where i start to draw, then it becomes an oval, i need to resize, then replace it, siee if it is centered since the auto centering tool doesn't really snap right.
Every time i draw a circle i would expect that-
When i start to draw, thats the center point. Where i stop, is the edge. ...and that should be all
Klik drag klik a circle at the exact spot where i wanted it, and at the exact size, and NOT an oval..
Is there something i'm not aware of? Or a config setting to get a more intuitive behaviour for this?
Kind Regards,
Mano
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On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 19:53 +0100, || ΣΖΟ || wrote:
Dear Inkers,
I'm wondering if tere is a more intuitive way to draw a perfect round circle and center it at t point where i start drawing it.
Hold the Shift and the Ctrl keys down while you drag. Drag at a 45 degree angle to get a circle.
See: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Shapes-Arcs.html
Tav
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:53:32 +0100 || ΣΖΟ || <manostienen@...155...> wrote:
When i start to draw, thats the center point. Where i stop, is the edge. ...and that should be all
Hold down the SHIFT while drawing the circle. This allows you to draw the half-diagonal rather than the full diagonal. I know of no way to draw from centre to radius or to just draw the diameter. There is no circle drawing tool, just an oval drawing one. ☹
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:10:53PM -0500, Shawn H Corey wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:53:32 +0100 || ΣΖΟ || <manostienen@...155...> wrote:
When i start to draw, thats the center point. Where i stop, is the edge. ...and that should be all
Hold down the SHIFT while drawing the circle. This allows you to draw the half-diagonal rather than the full diagonal. I know of no way to draw from centre to radius or to just draw the diameter. There is no circle drawing tool, just an oval drawing one. ☹
As far as I know, the underlying SVG notation just has cubic splines, not circles. This would mean all things that look like circles aren't exact, though they may look round.
If I'm wrong, I'd be happy to be corrected.
-- hendrik
Hi || ΣΖΟ ||,
Sorry I'm a noob myself but wondering why don't you use start & end point feature? For example if we like to draw 60 degree circle:
1. click circle 2. on the top of page input 0 in start box & 60 in end box 3. drag the object 4. rotate if needed 5. use object>align & distribute the x & y axises to other object if need to be centered.
Please CMIIW
El 19/11/12 22:36, Hendrik Boom escribió:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:10:53PM -0500, Shawn H Corey wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:53:32 +0100 || ΣΖΟ || <manostienen@...155...> wrote:
When i start to draw, thats the center point. Where i stop, is the edge. ...and that should be all
Hold down the SHIFT while drawing the circle. This allows you to draw the half-diagonal rather than the full diagonal. I know of no way to draw from centre to radius or to just draw the diameter. There is no circle drawing tool, just an oval drawing one. ☹
As far as I know, the underlying SVG notation just has cubic splines, not circles. This would mean all things that look like circles aren't exact, though they may look round.
If I'm wrong, I'd be happy to be corrected.
-- hendrik
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Almost the same response of Tav, but adding the Alt Key. Yo can try Mays (to begin creating the circle from the center) + Ctrl (to maintain the aspect ratio) + Alt (to draw the circle to the perimeter, rather than to the bounding box) while drag at a 45º angle. At least works for me =)
Thanks everyone!
Shift + control + 45 deg angle drag does most of the trick, ( I had preferred this to be a default behaviour. when i select a circle tool) And the other options i'm also looking into.
Works great, and i'll keep it in mind for many circles to come
Mano
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Alejandro Castillo <maroto.bearnd@...155...> wrote:
El 19/11/12 22:36, Hendrik Boom escribió:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:10:53PM -0500, Shawn H Corey wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:53:32 +0100 || ΣΖΟ || <manostienen@...155...> wrote:
When i start to draw, thats the center point. Where i stop, is the edge. ...and that should be all
Hold down the SHIFT while drawing the circle. This allows you to draw the half-diagonal rather than the full diagonal. I know of no way to draw from centre to radius or to just draw the diameter. There is no circle drawing tool, just an oval drawing one. ☹
As far as I know, the underlying SVG notation just has cubic splines, not circles. This would mean all things that look like circles aren't exact, though they may look round.
If I'm wrong, I'd be happy to be corrected.
-- hendrik
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Almost the same response of Tav, but adding the Alt Key. Yo can try Mays (to begin creating the circle from the center) + Ctrl (to maintain the aspect ratio) + Alt (to draw the circle to the perimeter, rather than to the bounding box) while drag at a 45º angle. At least works for me =)
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On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 16:36 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:10:53PM -0500, Shawn H Corey wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:53:32 +0100 || ΣΖΟ || <manostienen@...155...> wrote:
When i start to draw, thats the center point. Where i stop, is the edge. ...and that should be all
Hold down the SHIFT while drawing the circle. This allows you to draw the half-diagonal rather than the full diagonal. I know of no way to draw from centre to radius or to just draw the diameter. There is no circle drawing tool, just an oval drawing one. ☹
As far as I know, the underlying SVG notation just has cubic splines, not circles. This would mean all things that look like circles aren't exact, though they may look round.
If I'm wrong, I'd be happy to be corrected.
Actually, an Inkscape circle (or ellipse) is described in SVG as a path with arcs, example a circle with r="100":
d="m 275,150 a 100,100 0 1 1 -200,0 100,100 0 1 1 200,0 z"
(you can see the path data with the XML editor). It will be converted to cubic Beziers if any path operations are applied to it. Also, the Cairo library will render it using cubic splines.
Tav
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:58:43AM +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 16:36 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
As far as I know, the underlying SVG notation just has cubic splines, not circles. This would mean all things that look like circles aren't exact, though they may look round.
If I'm wrong, I'd be happy to be corrected.
Actually, an Inkscape circle (or ellipse) is described in SVG as a path with arcs, example a circle with r="100":
d="m 275,150 a 100,100 0 1 1 -200,0 100,100 0 1 1 200,0 z"
(you can see the path data with the XML editor). It will be converted to cubic Beziers if any path operations are applied to it. Also, the Cairo library will render it using cubic splines.
So it *is* defined as a circle, just often processed and rendered as splines. Thanks for the information.
-- hendrik
Hi,
As far as I know, the underlying SVG notation just has cubic splines, not circles. This would mean all things that look like circles aren't exact, though they may look round.
This is not true. See http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/shapes.html#CircleElement
The SVG format has a circle element. SVG tries to be semantically rich as it wants people to animate things with ease - f.e. people want to easily animate the radius or center of the circle. Also, SVG is also meant to be used by hand-coders and programmers, and for them it is easier to use circles than cubic beziers.
As Tav explained, Inkscape uses arcs to represent circles and the Cairo library used to render the geometries uses cubic splines. But this is the decision of Inkscape and Cairo and not a limitation of the SVG format itself, which offers basic shapes, such as rects, circles and ellipses.
Andreas
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 09:43:44AM +0100, Andreas Neumann wrote:
Hi,
As far as I know, the underlying SVG notation just has cubic splines, not circles. This would mean all things that look like circles aren't exact, though they may look round.
This is not true. See http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/shapes.html#CircleElement
The SVG format has a circle element. SVG tries to be semantically rich as it wants people to animate things with ease - f.e. people want to easily animate the radius or center of the circle. Also, SVG is also meant to be used by hand-coders and programmers, and for them it is easier to use circles than cubic beziers.
As Tav explained, Inkscape uses arcs to represent circles and the Cairo library used to render the geometries uses cubic splines. But this is the decision of Inkscape and Cairo and not a limitation of the SVG format itself, which offers basic shapes, such as rects, circles and ellipses.
Andreas
Again, thanks for the explanation. THis may be a reasonable compromise between the ideal and the reality.
-- hendrik
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