From: "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...155...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Kerning?
On 3/28/06, Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@...477...> wrote:
List administrator, please disable file attachments.
Why?!
Most mailing lists do not permit attachments for three very good reasons:
a) It is a significant security risk (and don't you dare blame the victim -- you and I may be smart enough to protect ourselves adequately, but most people are not, and when *they* get infected with a worm, it is your server and mine that gets inundated with spam and DDOS atacks).
b) Those of us who receive the mailing list in digest form never see the attachments at all: we see page after page after page of computer code, rendering the mailing list practically unreadable.
c) It is an enormous waste of bandwidth to send the same file to every person in the mailing list. An *enormous* waste of bandwidth: far more than what is used when the same file is downloaded from a web server.
If you want to share a file, the proper thing to do is to put it online somewhere so that the people who *want* to see it can go see it *when* they want to see it, without forcing *every* mailing list subscriber to download it at the same time they are retrieving their email. That's just obnoxious, plain and simple. In addition, many of us are on dial-up connections, and some of us pay for every minute your attachment is downloading, even if we are receiving the list as a digest and can't see the attachment we have paid to download.
Mailing lists should not permit attachments. In fact, this is one of only two lists I subscribe to that permits them (the other list strips out the attachments for digest subscribers, fortunately).
-- Brandon Blackmoor bblackmoor@...477... 2006-03-28
Brandon Blackmoor wrote:
Most mailing lists do not permit attachments for three very good reasons:
a) It is a significant security risk (and don't you dare blame the victim -- you and I may be smart enough to protect ourselves adequately, but most people are not, and when *they* get infected with a worm, it is your server and mine that gets inundated with spam and DDOS atacks).
Ack!
c) It is an enormous waste of bandwidth to send the same file to every person in the mailing list. An *enormous* waste of bandwidth: far more than what is used when the same file is downloaded from a web server.
If you want to share a file, the proper thing to do is to put it online somewhere so that the people who *want* to see it can go see it *when* they want to see it, without forcing *every* mailing list subscriber to download it at the same time they are retrieving their email. That's just obnoxious, plain and simple. In addition, many of us are on dial-up connections, and some of us pay for every minute your attachment is downloading, even if we are receiving the list as a digest and can't see the attachment we have paid to download.
Ack!
Cheerz Lars
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Brandon Blackmoor wrote:
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:29:57 -0500 From: Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@...477...> Reply-To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net To: Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@...477...> Cc: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-user] please disable attachments
From: "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...155...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Kerning?
On 3/28/06, Brandon Blackmoor <bblackmoor@...477...> wrote:
List administrator, please disable file attachments.
Why?!
Most mailing lists do not permit attachments for three very good reasons:
Most mailing lists do not permit large attachments, but they will let through smaller attachments such as screenshots. if the size is set reasonably low (maybe < 50k) it is usually a good balance.
b) Those of us who receive the mailing list in digest form never see the attachments at all: we see page after page after page of computer code, rendering the mailing list practically unreadable.
Those of us who receive the digest appreciate it when people trim out old messages and leave only enough information for context (as opposed to a two line message followed by three or four pages worth of previous messages).
Evil is posting top
That's just obnoxious, plain
(see above, read backwards ;)
and simple. In addition, many of us are on dial-up connections, and some of us pay for every minute your attachment is downloading, even if we are receiving the list as a digest and can't see the attachment we have paid to download.
viewing the list through a news service such as Gmane or the sourceforge website might be a better way to conserve bandwidth.
Mailing lists should not permit attachments. In fact, this is one of only two lists I subscribe to that permits them (the other list strips out the attachments for digest subscribers, fortunately).
sounds like a good option if it is possible on this list.
-- Alan
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