Layers (was: Make document square; keep contents centered)
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Chris Tooley <euxneks@...155...> wrote:
Offtopic: is there a reason to work with layers? Is there a memory savings on that? grouping has always been sufficient for me...
I can't live without them once the document gets complex. A common scenario:
Text Layer Object layer 3 Object layer 2 Object layer 1 Background layer
Each one containing a fairly large number of objects/groups/etc.
Once you're dealing with hundreds or maybe thousands of objects, selections can get nutty - layers really help out there. eg you can lock or hide all the other layers and do a 'select all' on an object layer.
Chris
I see, I guess my needs are not as intense as some others! :P
Thank you for the reply! -Chris
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Chris Mohler <cr33dog@...155...> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Chris Tooley <euxneks@...155...> wrote:
Offtopic: is there a reason to work with layers? Is there a memory
savings
on that? grouping has always been sufficient for me...
I can't live without them once the document gets complex. A common scenario:
Text Layer Object layer 3 Object layer 2 Object layer 1 Background layer
Each one containing a fairly large number of objects/groups/etc.
Once you're dealing with hundreds or maybe thousands of objects, selections can get nutty - layers really help out there. eg you can lock or hide all the other layers and do a 'select all' on an object layer.
Chris
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On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 16:19 -0800, Chris Tooley wrote:
I see, I guess my needs are not as intense as some others! :P
I'll explain from a developer's perspective:
There is no difference between a layer and a group, they are both group elements. The only difference is that a layer has an inkscape only attribute which says it's a layer and what it's visible label should be.
Functionally layers can be more easily controlled in terms of visibility (on/off) and ordering hierarchy can be visualised. On the other hand plain groups can be transformed, i.e. they can be moved around, rotated, skewed etc.
The distinction is there to provide a way for different features to contextualise groups and layers. I have an idea for a checkbox which would show all groups in the layers dialog for people who want to see their document's group hierarchy as layers. (which would be interesting)
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
The distinction is there to provide a way for different features to contextualise groups and layers. I have an idea for a checkbox which would show all groups in the layers dialog for people who want to see their document's group hierarchy as layers. (which would be interesting)
If you're looking to add this type of feature, I'd recommend checking out https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/181578, notably Mental's comments. Obviously it would take more time and effort, but it's worth at least taking a look at. This would bring it more inline with the Layer/Document browsers that Illustrator & Draw have and would help fulfill the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/inkscape/+spec/better-layer-management blueprint.
Cheers, Josh
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