Hi All,
Since I am running Scientific Linux 7.2 (RHEL clone), I am probably not running the latest Inkscape:
$ rpm -qa inkscape inkscape-0.48.4-15.el7.x86_64
I tried Inkcape out to create a graphics for a tech manual. I managed to find everything I need in DuckDuckGo (Google without the spying). I was impressed.
One thing I never figured out (and had to use GIMP) was how to erase a section. All the stuff I found on the web made no sense to me and I couldn't find things.
Exactly how to I erase something? (I don't mind over writing with a while brush, as I did in GIMP.)
Many thanks, -T
There's not really an "erase" tool (unless something's changed recently) as everything is defined as paths, etc.
However, you can sort of trick an erase in a number of ways:
1) Use an object the same colour as the background, and make sure it is "above" the other elements in the scene. You're essentially making a mask. This is similar to your white brush technique in GIMP. 2) Use an object and subtract from your other object. If you have multiple objects, copy and paste the object you want to subtract and then subtract them from all objects in the same spot - this is a little tricker but you get an element that truly has a piece missing. You may have to deal with paths and removing a section between nodes, and if you've got a fill colour it might not show properly, etc...
Ultimately, it might be easier to erase what you want to erase in GIMP after export, but if your diagrams are simple enough, a mask like in 1 will probably suit you well.
Hope that helps!
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:55 PM, ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo@...3218...> wrote:
On 04/09/2016 07:37 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
while brush,
White brush
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On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:55 PM, ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo@...3218... mailto:ToddAndMargo@...3218...> wrote:
On 04/09/2016 07:37 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > while brush, White brush
On 04/09/2016 09:40 PM, Chris Tooley wrote:
There's not really an "erase" tool (unless something's changed recently) as everything is defined as paths, etc.
However, you can sort of trick an erase in a number of ways:
- Use an object the same colour as the background, and make sure it is
"above" the other elements in the scene. You're essentially making a mask. This is similar to your white brush technique in GIMP. 2) Use an object and subtract from your other object. If you have multiple objects, copy and paste the object you want to subtract and then subtract them from all objects in the same spot - this is a little tricker but you get an element that truly has a piece missing. You may have to deal with paths and removing a section between nodes, and if you've got a fill colour it might not show properly, etc...
Ultimately, it might be easier to erase what you want to erase in GIMP after export, but if your diagrams are simple enough, a mask like in 1 will probably suit you well.
Hope that helps!
Thank you!
Actually there IS an Eraser tool in Inkscape. However, I usually recommend not using it, for a couple of reasons. First, it's more like a raster kind of feature wedged into a vector program. It's usually not the best tool for any job, imo. 2nd, in my experience, it's quite buggy. Often for me, it just doesn't work.
Imo, covering it up with an object the same color as the background, is not the best way either. Depending on what you plan to do with the image later, it could come back and "bite you in the behind" as they say.
To determine the best, or at least a good way, it would be better if we could see the image, and you could show us what you want to "erase". In a vector graphics program, perhaps you need to edit a path, or you might need some path operation (booleans).
There's just no way to know without seeing the image.
(You could attach it to your reply, if it's Very small. But better if you upload it somewhere, and give us the links.)
All best, brynn
_____________________________ From: Chris Tooley Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 10:40 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] erase?
There's not really an "erase" tool (unless something's changed recently) as everything is defined as paths, etc.
However, you can sort of trick an erase in a number of ways:
1) Use an object the same colour as the background, and make sure it is "above" the other elements in the scene. You're essentially making a mask. This is similar to your white brush technique in GIMP. 2) Use an object and subtract from your other object. If you have multiple objects, copy and paste the object you want to subtract and then subtract them from all objects in the same spot - this is a little tricker but you get an element that truly has a piece missing. You may have to deal with paths and removing a section between nodes, and if you've got a fill colour it might not show properly, etc...
Ultimately, it might be easier to erase what you want to erase in GIMP after export, but if your diagrams are simple enough, a mask like in 1 will probably suit you well.
Hope that helps!
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:55 PM, ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo@...3218...> wrote:
On 04/09/2016 07:37 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
while brush,
White brush
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On 04/10/2016 07:32 PM, Brynn wrote:
Actually there IS an Eraser tool in Inkscape. However, I usually recommend not using it, for a couple of reasons. First, it's more like a raster kind of feature wedged into a vector program. It's usually not the best tool for any job, imo. 2nd, in my experience, it's quite buggy. Often for me, it just doesn't work.
Imo, covering it up with an object the same color as the background, is not the best way either. Depending on what you plan to do with the image later, it could come back and "bite you in the behind" as they say.
To determine the best, or at least a good way, it would be better if we could see the image, and you could show us what you want to "erase". In a vector graphics program, perhaps you need to edit a path, or you might need some path operation (booleans).
There's just no way to know without seeing the image.
(You could attach it to your reply, if it's Very small. But better if you upload it somewhere, and give us the links.)
All best, brynn
From: Chris Tooley Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 10:40 PM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] erase?
There's not really an "erase" tool (unless something's changed recently) as everything is defined as paths, etc.
However, you can sort of trick an erase in a number of ways:
- Use an object the same colour as the background, and make sure it is
"above" the other elements in the scene. You're essentially making a mask. This is similar to your white brush technique in GIMP. 2) Use an object and subtract from your other object. If you have multiple objects, copy and paste the object you want to subtract and then subtract them from all objects in the same spot - this is a little tricker but you get an element that truly has a piece missing. You may have to deal with paths and removing a section between nodes, and if you've got a fill colour it might not show properly, etc...
Ultimately, it might be easier to erase what you want to erase in GIMP after export, but if your diagrams are simple enough, a mask like in 1 will probably suit you well.
Hope that helps!
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 8:55 PM, ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo@...3218...> wrote:
On 04/09/2016 07:37 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
while brush,
White brush
Hi Brynn, I just used the pen and a circle of the right size over in GIMP (raster graphic). I was basically erasing my name from the picture of how to set up eMail in Cobian Backup.
I usually have GIMP open anyway when I am doing Inkscape so I can make screen shots.
-T
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:29 AM, ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo@...3218...> wrote:
I was basically erasing my name from the picture of how to set up eMail in Cobian Backup.
Make sure you remove the EXIF data (I use the command-line exiftool utility, but there are online equivalents you can use if you trust them) - sometimes it will save an old version of the thumbnail and sometimes erased info can be reconstructed from this, or your username (which maybe your email or other sensitive info can be guessed from) could also be in the EXIF).
I am curious why you picked the vector tool Inkscape, since it seems like you are marking up a raster image, which GIMP can certainly do.
-Arlo James Barnes
*PostScript*: In a thread related to this one, someone (I think Steve Litt) said that screenshots are always raster, which is true. But why? X.org simply describes the windows with some measurements, which could easily be translated into vector shapes, and this is true for window managers like GNOME3 and compositors like Compiz, too, right? Could there be a vector-screenshot capability (with embedded rasters for what cannot be represented as a vector) for future operating systems? This is pretty much off-topic for this list, which is why I hid in the the P.S., but it is an interesting thought.
Am 14.04.2016 um 04:08 schrieb Arlo Barnes:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:29 AM, ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo@...3218...> wrote:
[...]
*PostScript*: In a thread related to this one, someone (I think Steve Litt) said that screenshots are always raster, which is
not true: https://github.com/nomeata/gtk-vector-screenshot
Best regards
Chris
true. But why? X.org
simply describes the windows with some measurements, which could easily be translated into vector shapes, and this is true for window managers like GNOME3 and compositors like Compiz, too, right? Could there be a vector-screenshot capability (with embedded rasters for what cannot be represented as a vector) for future operating systems? This is pretty much off-topic for this list, which is why I hid in the the P.S., but it is an interesting thought.
On 04/13/2016 07:08 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote:
I am curious why you picked the vector tool Inkscape, since it seems like you are marking up a raster image, which GIMP can certainly do.
Hi Arlo,
I am a Linux shop. I am a consultant for hire: Linux, Windows, MAC.
I was at a graphics design shop doing some networking. I watched a designer use Quark to create a wedding invitation. I remembered see an article on Linux Fedora and a graphics designer who used Inkscape and is now an all Linux shop.
So I gave it a try and a layout for a graphics I need to configure eMail with Cobian Backup. I was pleasantly surprised at it ease of use, although I had to look everything up to start with. Didn't managed to get "erase" down and had to ask. But got everything else down in rapid order.
GIMP and I have a checkered history. I use it mainly for screen shots. I find GIMP so EXCRUCIATINGLY difficult to use, it drives me around the bend.
-T
Interesting, I asked the graphic designer who was having problems to bring up his drawing in his "editor" (quark it turned out) and he didn't know what I was talking about. (His million dollar printer kept archives of his print jobs so he could reprint a will. He had a bad job in the queue and it was interesting getting him to recreate it from his editor.)
On 04/14/2016 12:05 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On 04/13/2016 07:08 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote:
I am curious why you picked the vector tool Inkscape, since it seems like you are marking up a raster image, which GIMP can certainly do.
Hi Arlo,
I am a Linux shop. I am a consultant for hire: Linux, Windows, MAC.
I was at a graphics design shop doing some networking. I watched a designer use Quark to create a wedding invitation. I remembered see an article on Linux Fedora and a graphics designer who used Inkscape and is now an all Linux shop.
So I gave it a try and a layout for a graphics I need to configure eMail with Cobian Backup. I was pleasantly surprised at it ease of use, although I had to look everything up to start with. Didn't managed to get "erase" down and had to ask. But got everything else down in rapid order.
GIMP and I have a checkered history. I use it mainly for screen shots. I find GIMP so EXCRUCIATINGLY difficult to use, it drives me around the bend.
-T
Interesting, I asked the graphic designer who was having problems to bring up his drawing in his "editor" (quark it turned out) and he didn't know what I was talking about. (His million dollar printer kept archives of his print jobs so he could reprint a will. He had a bad job in the queue and it was interesting getting him to recreate it from his editor.)
Oh you know what, I just took a screenshot with GIMP, copied it into the clipboard (from GIMP) and pasted it into Inkscape. Huh. Cool. Didn't have to save the buzzard to disk. I have done this a lot with Libre Office, so it should have been obvious. Learned something new! :-)
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