Hi inkscape folks,
I only recently got attracted to this project. The thing that attracted my attention is your aim - among others - to offer an open-source replacement for MS-Visio.
Now, what I have mostly been doing with Visio as a developer is modelling software development, with methodologies, like ERD-, or all kinds of UML-diagramms.
My question is: do you have the goal or plan - and if yes, when - to add similar features and patterns to inkscape?
If it is not in your plans, does anybody of you know an open source software for the above described activities? (I don't Poseidon to it)
Thanks a lot in advance
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Quoth xmk637-dev@...266... on or about 2004-10-10:
Now, what I have mostly been doing with Visio as a developer is modelling software development, with methodologies, like ERD-, or all kinds of UML-diagramms.
My question is: do you have the goal or plan - and if yes, when - to add similar features and patterns to inkscape?
I think it's on the roadmap, but I'm only a user.
If it is not in your plans, does anybody of you know an open source software for the above described activities? (I don't Poseidon to it)
I use the graphviz[0] package to draw class diagrams, although `draw' is not really the right word. I write something like this to a graph file:
#include "uml.doth" Database [CLASS,label="{\N|\ - customers : Customer[]\l\ ... + delete(string): void\l}"] Customer [CLASS,label="{\N|\ - name : string\l\ ... + parse(string) : \N&\l}"] Database -> Customer [COMPOSITION]
and graphviz generates a SVG / PS / whatever image.
For sequence diagrams I used pic2plot[1] and a macro file from Diomidis Spinellis[2].
These techniques are only good enough for simple graphs, and writing them is more like programming than drawing. I like `em, your mileage may vary.
-trent
[0] http://graphviz.org [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/plotutils/plotutils.html [2] http://www.spinellis.gr/sw/umlgraph/
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:44:19 +0200 (CEST), xmk637-dev@...266... <xmk637-dev@...266...> wrote:
Now, what I have mostly been doing with Visio as a developer is modelling software development, with methodologies, like ERD-, or all kinds of UML-diagramms.
My question is: do you have the goal or plan - and if yes, when - to add similar features and patterns to inkscape?
We have some preliminary work done on live connectors (you drag a box, the connector attached to it follows). By the way, Peter, what is the status of that? What remains to be done?
On Sun, 2004-10-10 at 01:44, xmk637-dev@...266... wrote:
I only recently got attracted to this project. The thing that attracted my attention is your aim - among others - to offer an open-source replacement for MS-Visio.
I think that Inkscape is going to have many Visio like features, but probably a more direct replacement for Visio is Dia.
http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/
Dia can also export to SVG so that if you wish, you can make the diagrams better looking in Inkscape. Also, there are 'code2dia' and 'dia2code' scripts that can help software developers.
--Ted
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 01:36:51PM -0300, bulia byak wrote:
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:44:19 +0200 (CEST), xmk637-dev@...266... <xmk637-dev@...266...> wrote:
Now, what I have mostly been doing with Visio as a developer is modelling software development, with methodologies, like ERD-, or all kinds of UML-diagramms.
My question is: do you have the goal or plan - and if yes, when - to add similar features and patterns to inkscape?
I'd expect inkscape to acquire some dia features over time, but dia will be a better tool than inkscape for the likes of UML, flowcharts and entity relationship diagrams for considerable time: such diagrams are after all the principle intended use for dia, whereas inkscape has more general aims.
For UML, you may be interested in ancillary programs like autodia that extract dia-format UML diagrams from source code, and I believe the other direction exists too.
Dia can export as an SVG image (currently without any semantic markup), and it may for all I know be able to import SVG images (as uneditable pictures). This may facilitate using Dia and Inkscape together. The software doesn't allow round-tripping between .dia and .svg though.
We have some preliminary work done on live connectors (you drag a box, the connector attached to it follows). By the way, Peter, what is the status of that? What remains to be done?
It was developed to the point that it was useful for what I wanted to do with it, and not much past that. It isn't ready for end-users. In a week or two, Michael Wybrow intends to start looking at it. I've suggested as a familiarity task that he add a signal like _transformed_connection but more suited to connectors than to clones. His main interest is in routing of the connectors; I don't whether or not he'd be interested in doing the "front-end" side of things either.
pjrm.
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bulia byak
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Peter Moulder
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Ted Gould
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Trent Buck