More information: Trace bitmap, text on path funtions no longer work
Well, I remembered that I had not upgraded another computer to a newer version of inkscape, so I tried there (Inkscape-0.44-1.win32.exe). It's also XP Professional SP2.
For text on path - worked fine and I realized that the problem was operator error on the newer version... ;-( Sorry. I was attempting to put "flowed text" into a path. That doesn't work.
Trace bitmap - worked fine. Here is what I noticed: When I import a bitmap (jpg, png, bmp) into the 0.44-1 version on that computer it says in the status bar "image". Actually, one image that I used, and it traced it anyway, it said... "image with bad reference."
On my computer rather than seeing the image import as an image, it sees it as a "rectangle".
I attempted to uninstall inkscape and install the version that was on the other computer, but I get the same "rectangle" import. Very strange. SO, definetely an environment problem. But, I have no idea what.
Anybody?
THANKS.
Maia
On my computer rather than seeing the image import as an image, it sees it as a "rectangle".
I attempted to uninstall inkscape and install the version that was on the other computer, but I get the same "rectangle" import. Very strange. SO, definetely an environment problem. But, I have no idea what.
Perhaps you have selected the option to import images as filled rectangles. Document preferences, 'misc' tab, "import bitmap as <image>" should be turned on to get an image, off to get a rectangle.
THANK you! Both for the quick answer, and for the solution. Yes, that was it. Just not intiuitive and I couldn't find it until now.
Maia
From: Daniel Hulme <art@...1790...> Reply-To: Inkscape User Community inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] More information: Trace bitmap, text on path funtions no longer work Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:06:13 +0100
On my computer rather than seeing the image import as an image, it sees it as a "rectangle".
I attempted to uninstall inkscape and install the version that was on the other computer, but I get the same "rectangle" import. Very strange. SO, definetely an environment problem. But, I have no idea what.
Perhaps you have selected the option to import images as filled rectangles. Document preferences, 'misc' tab, "import bitmap as <image>" should be turned on to get an image, off to get a rectangle.
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Daniel Hulme wrote:
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Perhaps you have selected the option to import images as filled rectangles. Document preferences, 'misc' tab, "import bitmap as <image>" should be turned on to get an image, off to get a rectangle.
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Maia Good wrote:
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THANK you! Both for the quick answer, and for the solution. Yes, that was it. Just not intiuitive and I couldn't find it until now.
Is there a technical reason why potrace shouldn't work on this type of image too? These seem to be implementation details an artist should not need to understand.
Maia have you filed a bug or request about this? Would you be so kind as to do so please to help prevent other users getting caught out in the same way? I think a fix would be so much better than a FAQ entry.
Alan Horkan wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Daniel Hulme wrote:
[...]
Perhaps you have selected the option to import images as filled rectangles. Document preferences, 'misc' tab, "import bitmap as <image>" should be turned on to get an image, off to get a rectangle.
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Maia Good wrote:
[...]
THANK you! Both for the quick answer, and for the solution. Yes, that was it. Just not intiuitive and I couldn't find it until now.
Is there a technical reason why potrace shouldn't work on this type of image too? These seem to be implementation details an artist should not need to understand.
Well, yes. A rectangle with a pattern fill isn't an image. Images can be converted to vector objects by tracing. Vector objects are already vector objects. Perhaps "Trace Bitmap" could be generalized if it did a hidden "Make Bitmap Copy" on the current selection before tracing. (Hidden meaning that the bitmap copy would be done in memory and not actually added to the document.)
Aaron Spike
On 10/10/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...476...> wrote:
Well, yes. A rectangle with a pattern fill isn't an image. Images can be converted to vector objects by tracing. Vector objects are already vector objects. Perhaps "Trace Bitmap" could be generalized if it did a hidden "Make Bitmap Copy" on the current selection before tracing. (Hidden meaning that the bitmap copy would be done in memory and not actually added to the document.)
That's a great idea. This way we could even trace vector objects :) Which might even make artistic sense - to introduce the characteristic distortions, etc.
But at what resolution to make this copy? Current zoom? Or some standard fixed resolution?
bulia byak wrote:
On 10/10/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...476...> wrote:
Well, yes. A rectangle with a pattern fill isn't an image. Images can be converted to vector objects by tracing. Vector objects are already vector objects. Perhaps "Trace Bitmap" could be generalized if it did a hidden "Make Bitmap Copy" on the current selection before tracing. (Hidden meaning that the bitmap copy would be done in memory and not actually added to the document.)
That's a great idea. This way we could even trace vector objects :) Which might even make artistic sense - to introduce the characteristic distortions, etc.
But at what resolution to make this copy? Current zoom? Or some standard fixed resolution?
maybe a gpu sniffer for the resolution of its settings?
delusional?
dwain
dwain.alford@...155... wrote:
bulia byak wrote:
On 10/10/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...476...> wrote:
Well, yes. A rectangle with a pattern fill isn't an image. Images can be converted to vector objects by tracing. Vector objects are already vector objects. Perhaps "Trace Bitmap" could be generalized if it did a hidden "Make Bitmap Copy" on the current selection before tracing. (Hidden meaning that the bitmap copy would be done in memory and not actually added to the document.)
That's a great idea. This way we could even trace vector objects :) Which might even make artistic sense - to introduce the characteristic distortions, etc.
But at what resolution to make this copy? Current zoom? Or some standard fixed resolution?
maybe a gpu sniffer for the resolution of its settings?
The resolution of the image has a huge effect on the speed of the tracer. I'd expect that some sort of "resample" slider wouldn't go unappreciated even for images. This would allow a user to trace a high resolution graphic at a lower resolution (ie much more quickly). Ability to adjust the rendering resolution may also give more artistic control.
Aaron Spike
dwain.alford@...155... wrote:
bulia byak wrote:
On 10/10/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...476...> wrote:
Well, yes. A rectangle with a pattern fill isn't an image. Images can be converted to vector objects by tracing. Vector objects are already vector objects. Perhaps "Trace Bitmap" could be generalized if it did a hidden "Make Bitmap Copy" on the current selection before tracing. (Hidden meaning that the bitmap copy would be done in memory and not actually added to the document.)
That's a great idea. This way we could even trace vector objects :) Which might even make artistic sense - to introduce the characteristic distortions, etc.
But at what resolution to make this copy? Current zoom? Or some standard fixed resolution?
maybe a gpu sniffer for the resolution of its settings?
The resolution of the image has a huge effect on the speed of the tracer. I'd expect that some sort of "resample" slider wouldn't go unappreciated even for images. This would allow a user to trace a high resolution graphic at a lower resolution (ie much more quickly). Ability to adjust the rendering resolution may also give more artistic control.
Aaron Spike
Yes, yes, yes. This would be greatly appreciated if it could be worked out! Daniel Culver danielculver@...107...
Aaron Spike wrote:
dwain.alford@...155... wrote:
bulia byak wrote:
On 10/10/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...476...> wrote:
Well, yes. A rectangle with a pattern fill isn't an image. Images can be converted to vector objects by tracing. Vector objects are already vector objects. Perhaps "Trace Bitmap" could be generalized if it did a hidden "Make Bitmap Copy" on the current selection before tracing. (Hidden meaning that the bitmap copy would be done in memory and not actually added to the document.)
That's a great idea. This way we could even trace vector objects :) Which might even make artistic sense - to introduce the characteristic distortions, etc.
But at what resolution to make this copy? Current zoom? Or some standard fixed resolution?
maybe a gpu sniffer for the resolution of its settings?
The resolution of the image has a huge effect on the speed of the tracer. I'd expect that some sort of "resample" slider wouldn't go unappreciated even for images. This would allow a user to trace a high resolution graphic at a lower resolution (ie much more quickly). Ability to adjust the rendering resolution may also give more artistic control.
Aaron Spike
maybe like the trace function in corel draw 13?
dwain
Aaron Spike wrote:
dwain.alford@...155... wrote:
maybe like the trace function in corel draw 13?
Could you please describe it in more depth? Maybe attach some screenshots?
Aaron Spike
here are a couple of screen shots. the first shows the "how to get to and tracing choices" menu; and the second shows the quality controls and other tidbits of info.
hope the files aren't too big. if they are, i'll post them on my web site in short order.
dwain
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