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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 377 Messages, 0 Files, 656763 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: sizmailov & doctormo
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2020-01-31 15-57-04 PST Martin Owens Ah, we are brothers in disunity then and that's not bad advice to be honest. 2020-03-28 11-17-52 PDT Martin Owens Keeping the OverloadGuard in utils is optional, doesn't matter too much since utils isn't a part of the API. 2020-03-28 11-18-28 PDT Martin Owens You would test on every load? 2020-02-02 14-45-36 PST Martin Owens Using a document of many types of objects with lots of group levels and multiple types of transformations. Then attempt to move objects, their children etc. The box should stay around the object as you move it. 2020-03-04 07-22-54 PST Martin Owens That's the tradeoff, although for 1.1 we'd likely fold API changes into deprications. 2020-03-30 12-03-25 PDT Martin Owens Most extension writers are going to copy and paste and most extension writers aren't going to know what _ means anyway. 2020-04-06 21-23-44 PDT Martin Owens :-) 2020-03-31 11-45-53 PDT Martin Owens Hi 2020-03-02 10-35-40 PST Martin Owens The channel is #bug_migration 2020-03-04 07-24-04 PST Martin Owens You should rebase your MR 170 on master so it can be merged. 2020-03-28 10-56-31 PDT Martin Owens Is this a good thing to put into `tests/test_inkex.py` or something similar? 2020-03-02 08-52-39 PST Martin Owens As a firefox user I won't be able to test much. The idea is nice though. GitLab's interface isn't the greatest for joined up downloading. 2020-03-28 12-34-50 PDT Martin Owens Nah the issue is only with `__getitem__` we're in the clear with using only `__setitem__` 2020-03-28 13-16-32 PDT Martin Owens What was the error? 2020-03-28 12-41-55 PDT Martin Owens Yes, works good, python 3.7 2020-03-30 12-12-12 PDT Martin Owens People copy and paste extensions code from each other, so if we exhibit clean code in the core (and tutorials) then extension writers will follow without being too adventurous. 2020-03-28 12-34-55 PDT Martin Owens https://bugs.python.org/issue31968 2020-03-04 07-20-37 PST Martin Owens We got a first casualty of a developer trying to keep up with our API changes Layer vs. Group. We'll have to be careful going into 1.0 I think. 2020-03-30 12-13-23 PDT Martin Owens So Kristian Benoit committed two things directly to master. From email it looks like they're unaware they pushed directly to master. Broke damn near everything. 2020-03-28 13-16-23 PDT Martin Owens Although not sure, I didn't test it on direct file modules. 2020-03-28 12-47-29 PDT Martin Owens Oh right! 2020-04-01 12-20-34 PDT Martin Owens They should be hidden from the menu 2020-02-07 08-44-42 PST Martin Owens In the meantime 2020-03-28 13-21-47 PDT Martin Owens No problem. 2020-01-29 10-51-08 PST Martin Owens Thanks for your help. We've done good. 2020-02-21 16-47-46 PST Martin Owens Good luck with the thesis! I know they can be stressful 2020-04-01 12-20-27 PDT Martin Owens Templates and help links makes sense 2020-03-29 15-26-06 PDT Martin Owens I wish to be as generous as possible to the work and the review. We have two solutions which have a) some problems and b) writers who both /feel/ but can not evident the reason why it's better. This is a reciepe for impasse. 2020-02-02 14-46-48 PST Martin Owens Yes 2020-03-30 12-08-46 PDT Martin Owens Do you know Kristian Benoit 2020-03-29 16-21-12 PDT Martin Owens I've pushed a rename, it removes the underscores and moves `_base.py` to `primitives.py` 2020-04-10 05-43-22 PDT Martin Owens It's waiting for after 1.0 2020-03-28 12-52-52 PDT Martin Owens `__name__` is covered in the example code 2020-03-28 11-20-38 PDT Martin Owens Can be done without testing globals, modules have dictionaries, these can be used without messing with the import. 2020-03-28 11-42-31 PDT Martin Owens So I would move all the import statements into `def setUp(self):` and use an object variable to stoe the state as you go. 2020-04-01 10-10-44 PDT Martin Owens Trying to see if we have bug fixes for extensions that would help the release. 2020-04-01 12-32-15 PDT Martin Owens I agree to a degree, but I'm also aware of the ideal vs. the reality. 2020-01-29 08-34-34 PST Martin Owens Yes, I'm trying to get the constructor stuff done quickly so you can rebase. 2020-01-29 08-39-37 PST Martin Owens Ready 2020-03-28 00-35-11 PDT Martin Owens No same name conflicts? 2020-01-31 15-57-33 PST Martin Owens We could probably produce our own pussy riot. UK music has been getting a bit soft anyway. 2020-03-28 00-45-06 PDT Martin Owens I've pushed a review. It looks good, just a few things to clear up. 2020-03-28 13-17-00 PDT Martin Owens Oh? I'll test locally, hang on 2020-04-01 12-32-37 PDT Martin Owens I will be able to review this properly in a week or so, I'm crushing under a docs upgrade and some paid work. 2020-03-28 11-45-33 PDT Martin Owens I think I see what you're trying to prevent, a sync issues between __init__ and the test. 2020-01-31 16-29-26 PST Martin Owens Aye. There are just some certain days with more content that I want ;-) 2020-03-28 11-43-15 PDT Martin Owens (and convert to a regular test, but I don't know if you know how to write tests, I think yes) 2020-04-01 12-25-47 PDT Martin Owens On review, those hidden flags all make sense. 2020-03-28 13-21-57 PDT Martin Owens Have a good night and hope all is well! 2020-02-02 14-05-57 PST Martin Owens Hello 2020-04-01 12-21-04 PDT Martin Owens embed selected images is run from the right click menu 2020-03-28 01-52-01 PDT Martin Owens You can generate the lists from checking each module's dictionary. 2020-01-31 16-05-42 PST Martin Owens Heh, "make a fuss" 2020-02-07 08-47-09 PST Martin Owens None required, thanks. 2020-02-07 08-41-59 PST Martin Owens Hello 2020-03-29 15-50-24 PDT Martin Owens Merged 2020-03-29 15-44-13 PDT Martin Owens Then I owe you a big appology 2020-03-28 11-36-55 PDT Martin Owens print statements intentional? 2020-03-28 11-40-51 PDT Martin Owens You can use `type(attr).__name__` to get a better print out 2020-01-31 15-51-12 PST Martin Owens What used to be called the UK. 2020-03-28 11-41-12 PDT Martin Owens `type(attr).__module__, type(attr).__name__` 2020-03-28 12-46-58 PDT Martin Owens Question is, how can we both be right. 2020-04-06 15-44-49 PDT Martin Owens If you feel at all like you're not able to mentor as well as you want to be able to, I can take the review. Either way works for me. 2020-03-31 11-49-48 PDT Martin Owens We have only a handful of python people. I had to ask outside of Inkscape to get an assessment of our module namespace checker. 2020-03-31 11-46-04 PDT Martin Owens The reversion should be in now for the namespaces. 2020-03-29 15-44-48 PDT Martin Owens Rename elements.base to anything you want. Even basics works there. 2020-03-28 11-46-03 PDT Martin Owens I will look online for existing solutions, 2020-03-28 12-32-40 PDT Martin Owens Weird the PEP I read said they changed it in python3 to allow for this. 2020-02-02 14-11-23 PST Martin Owens But in this case, since the bug (at least your one, not nathen's) is code logic and not evident in running, it's hard to do much about. I understand why it works, but it might not be obvious. If you can narrow down what your seeing into symptoms. Or predictions. Then other bug testers can test them for you. 2020-03-04 07-31-22 PST Martin Owens It's mostly about sounding out the release, we /need/ to get release out the door before we all die of old age. 2020-04-01 12-22-00 PDT Martin Owens I don't know what stock/effect is, is this your new directory structure? 2020-03-29 15-47-29 PDT Martin Owens I am become mess, the destroyer of beauty. 2020-03-02 14-13-29 PST Martin Owens For the latest? 2020-01-29 08-39-44 PST Martin Owens In your own time, no rush 2020-03-28 12-59-37 PDT Martin Owens Now we're cooking with rolling rocks! 2020-04-01 10-10-29 PDT Martin Owens @sizmailov I like the idea, it's been on my todo for a while, although we're about to cut 1.0 rc1 so we may wait on merging until after 1.0 if that's ok? 2020-03-29 15-44-07 PDT Martin Owens Really? 2020-03-28 12-33-29 PDT Martin Owens In python2 you couldn't subclass globals, because it asked for the C dictionary type. 2020-03-02 08-56-23 PST Martin Owens I solved one of the issues with the extensions by using a little known GitLab API url so I can always go to the latest artefact from the main project site. 2020-01-28 18-02-08 PST Martin Owens Back from my adventures in parenting 2020-03-29 15-44-24 PDT Martin Owens My review has been predicated on the renaming of inkex.base 2020-03-30 12-03-43 PDT Martin Owens So I think we're 98% safe. 2020-03-29 15-45-02 PDT Martin Owens Sorry 2020-01-31 15-50-32 PST Martin Owens You'll have to give me some space, my country has just committed a slow suicide and I'm not feeling all that great. 2020-03-28 13-20-47 PDT Martin Owens With that fix, local testing on `inkex.paths` works as expected. I added `FOO =1; FOO=2` to paths to confirm it raises as expected. 2020-04-01 12-27-14 PDT Martin Owens The last directory seems a little overkill. /effect/color/less_saturation/less_saturation.inx I think it can just be /effect/color/less_saturation.inx 2020-04-01 12-12-13 PDT Martin Owens If the code is in the core extensions repository, they shouldn't be hidden (if they are, let me know) 2020-03-29 15-46-33 PDT Martin Owens Groups has also been renamed? 2020-03-02 08-55-37 PST Martin Owens But if you'll always be available to fix it ;-) 2020-03-28 12-47-47 PDT Martin Owens Of course, my code doesn't import inkex again, it RUNS inkex/__init__.py as a script. 2020-03-28 12-42-10 PDT Martin Owens I added in some pretend collisions, picked them up. 2020-03-30 12-07-11 PDT Martin Owens I do have a seperate question for you though 2020-03-28 12-24-09 PDT Martin Owens ```
from unittest import TestCase as BaseCase
import inkex
import inkex.elements
from inkex.utils import PY3
class MyGlobals(dict):
"""Python 3.3 and above globals dictionary"""
def __setitem__(self, name, value):
if name in self and value != self[name]:
raise KeyError("While importing {} the API name {} was imported twice".format(self['__name__'], name))
super(MyGlobals, self).__setitem__(name, value)
class TestModuleCollisions(BaseCase):
"""Test imports to make sure the API is clean"""
def assertNoCollisions(self, module): # pylint: disable=invalid-name
"""Make sure there are no API collisions in the give module on import"""
if not PY3:
self.skipTest("API testing python 3.3 and above only.")
with open(inkex.__file__, 'r') as fhl:
exec(fhl.read(), MyGlobals({'__name__': module.__name__})) # pylint: disable=exec-used
def test_inkex(self):
"""Test inkex API have no collisions"""
self.assertNoCollisions(inkex)
def test_inkex_elements(self):
"""Test elements API have no collisions"""
self.assertNoCollisions(inkex.elements)``` 2020-03-31 11-50-20 PDT Martin Owens Best place inside inkscape is the extensions chat channel though. More contextual. devel is mostly C++ 2020-03-28 11-17-12 PDT Martin Owens I would move it into a test. One the API is set, it doesn't have to check every inkex load, that's Kw of energy doing nothing on thousands of computers. But having the warning in the CI builder in a test, ideal IMO. 2020-03-04 07-31-40 PST Martin Owens Your thoughts would be welcome. 2020-03-28 11-00-05 PDT Martin Owens On review, the only item from `elements/base` that people would import directly is `load_svg` 2020-01-31 16-09-15 PST Martin Owens The common disquiet as it's known. 2020-01-31 16-30-59 PST Martin Owens Indeed it is 2020-03-04 08-04-35 PST Martin Owens Merged 2020-03-02 14-08-07 PST Martin Owens See the coverage label on this page? https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/ 2020-03-28 11-02-12 PDT Martin Owens A poem! 2020-02-07 08-44-04 PST Martin Owens No, just one pair of hands ;-) 2020-03-28 12-23-42 PDT Martin Owens OK I have a solution 2020-03-30 12-40-38 PDT Martin Owens The MR policy is lax, I think this is the first mistake. 2020-03-28 13-19-50 PDT Martin Owens Oh my code has a bug. `with open(inkex.__file__, 'r') as fhl` -> `with open(module.__file__, 'r') as fhl` 2020-03-29 15-28-18 PDT Martin Owens In the meantime, we can go ahead with your original MR without the checks to keep it all clean. 2020-04-01 12-20-47 PDT Martin Owens Because they are accessed via either the New from Template or the help menu 2020-03-30 12-02-49 PDT Martin Owens Yes, but underscoring modules is super rare outside of python proper. I figured I'd moved you to do something you wouldn't have done otherwise with my mistake. 2020-03-29 15-27-51 PDT Martin Owens I'm going to invite a third party who knows python to review both out solutions. I'll make a MR and I can send both links out. 2020-03-02 09-08-14 PST Martin Owens It's possible. I know I don't need a tool like this myself, because I don't interact with artefacts much. But the team that does is going to be the bug/issues team, since they like to bisect and download lots of versions. 2020-03-30 12-07-03 PDT Martin Owens I'm not sure how to break that down further. 2020-04-02 07-36-45 PDT Martin Owens If you like. Do you have a desired schedule to get it merged? 2020-03-04 07-28-20 PST Martin Owens Will you be at the meeting on Friday to discuss the 1.0 release? 2020-01-31 16-09-19 PST Martin Owens Interesting to hear. 2020-03-28 01-45-07 PDT Martin Owens There is a way 2020-02-07 08-44-36 PST Martin Owens Any chance I could get you to look at one of the items on this list: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/issues/136 ? 2020-01-31 15-50-05 PST Martin Owens s/busy/depressed/ 2020-01-31 16-29-43 PST Martin Owens by the way, delta is the right thing to use, it's just not scaled to the user units. 2020-03-29 15-30-31 PDT Martin Owens Yes, so long as `basics.py` is back to `base.py`, I think that was the only other issue. 2020-04-06 15-43-59 PDT Martin Owens I'm actually really impressed with your patience. Thank you for investing the time. I have the same feeling that I could have done the code, but at the same time this isn't going to fix anything really, it's a nice to have we can take our sweet time on. I'd only code it myself if Kristian went AWOL. 2020-01-31 16-03-41 PST Martin Owens Primal screams are primal screams. No one said it was supposed to /do/ anything. 2020-04-01 12-12-42 PDT Martin Owens If you mean extensions like the uniconverter extensions, those are abandoned/obsolete/rejected etc 2020-03-28 13-02-27 PDT Martin Owens Maybe add a comments about the fact this only works for setitem and not getitem? 2020-02-14 12-25-46 PST Martin Owens Thanks for the ping :-D 2020-03-29 15-43-07 PDT Martin Owens I thought `_base.py` was for `inkex/elements/base.py` I'm dead set against changing the name of `inkex/base.py` to anything. 2020-01-31 15-49-34 PST Martin Owens Hello 2020-03-04 07-29-44 PST Martin Owens Friday 6pm UTC in the developer chat 2020-04-01 12-29-57 PDT Martin Owens Each directory depth will slow inkscape's loading. 2020-03-28 10-57-50 PDT Martin Owens If a name change is required, I'd change `inkex/elements/base` rather than `inkex/base` just based on what we've asked extension developers to do when upgrading their extension. 2020-02-02 14-09-16 PST Martin Owens There's always room for perfection. I'm trying hard to make it the enemy of the good. 2020-02-07 08-42-39 PST Martin Owens I owe you those reviews, but I can't deliver right now. :-( 2020-03-28 11-00-29 PDT Martin Owens So this is reasonable so long as the import in `__init__` is the landing point for that anyway. 2020-03-04 08-05-35 PST Martin Owens Are you able to look at any of the issues on this list? https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/issues/136 2020-03-04 08-07-52 PST Martin Owens That's probably true. If boredom strikes ;-) 2020-01-28 18-55-50 PST Martin Owens No problem, good night! 2020-03-28 11-02-39 PDT Martin Owens And I agree 2020-03-02 08-53-42 PST Martin Owens I don't think so, I could check the stats on the website if you want. 2020-03-30 12-40-25 PDT Martin Owens Agreed 2020-03-28 01-52-09 PDT Martin Owens Convert them into sets and xor them. 2020-03-28 12-45-43 PDT Martin Owens Put a print in `__setitem__` it is running and it is testing. 2020-03-28 11-33-15 PDT Martin Owens It's the same same, since `from inkex import elements; elements.__dict__` is sort of the same as `from inkex.elements import *; globals()` except you don't get python builtins in the first one (except if you want them) 2020-04-10 09-25-54 PDT Martin Owens Should be May 4th ish. The RC1 is out now, so not too long. 2020-03-02 08-55-11 PST Martin Owens Theissue I see is maint burden; one of the reasons to use GitLab (and not host our own) is to reduce the amount of stuff we have to look after ourselves. 2020-02-21 13-15-14 PST Martin Owens Thanks. I'm still working on the canvas bug. Almost a week of research and poking. How's your programming? 2020-04-10 12-53-54 PDT Martin Owens No problem, though this kind of thing should be discussed in the public channels. 2020-03-28 12-42-50 PDT Martin Owens Sorry what's the initalize once problem? (I may have missed that one, sorry) 2020-03-28 12-47-54 PDT Martin Owens That's why it works. 2020-03-28 13-16-07 PDT Martin Owens paths isn't a module directory though, so it might have collisions. 2020-03-29 15-47-48 PDT Martin Owens Right we'll get this in as is. 2020-03-28 12-24-04 PDT Martin Owens This might seem mad, but it's a small codebase and covers quite a lot of ground without repetition: 2020-03-27 19-34-45 PDT Martin Owens If you're willing to help there. That would be great. 2020-03-30 12-14-15 PDT Martin Owens I'll personally shout at anyone who uses it. I'll find them on github and it will be all over for them! 2020-03-28 13-16-42 PDT Sergei Izmailov The was no error, but it should be 2020-01-31 16-09-05 PST Sergei Izmailov Hopefully society would evolve and we will be in better future 2020-03-29 12-30-04 PDT Sergei Izmailov Don't we use pytest? 2020-03-28 12-30-37 PDT Sergei Izmailov If only globals is provided, it must be a dictionary (and not a subclass of dictionary), 2020-04-06 09-40-50 PDT Sergei Izmailov (it's not an urgent question, take your time) 2020-04-01 12-22-05 PDT Sergei Izmailov yes 2020-02-07 08-42-25 PST Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/172 2020-04-06 09-38-02 PDT Sergei Izmailov Please tell how it looks from a side. 2020-04-06 09-32-35 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, seems like we have communication problem in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/184 2020-03-30 12-16-26 PDT Sergei Izmailov (if we mark submodules as implementation detail, of course) 2020-03-28 12-34-02 PDT Sergei Izmailov We can use regular dict and do check manually 2020-01-29 08-56-17 PST Sergei Izmailov added a couple of comments 2020-01-31 15-50-27 PST Sergei Izmailov don't be :) 2020-03-28 11-01-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov All elements submodules are pretty new, so number of people who already depend on `elements/base` should be very few. 2020-04-10 11-10-29 PDT Sergei Izmailov A (better) alternative would be to optimize inkscape for low-requirement set of options, but it seems to be a bit harder since it's bound to GIO and would require some architectural changes... 2020-03-28 13-01-21 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'll adapt your snippet and update MR 2020-01-31 15-52-34 PST Sergei Izmailov But I'm almost out reach for public news 2020-03-30 12-11-47 PDT Sergei Izmailov It's not about what they do. In python there is no way to keep user from doing any nasty things. All we can do is to draw line of our responsibility and guarantees we provide. 2020-03-28 10-56-32 PDT Sergei Izmailov WRT elements submodules. I find it useful to make it underscored. It's a usage restriction so we can move stuff around without breaking well-behaved user's code 2020-03-02 14-09-27 PST Sergei Izmailov it's an answer, not a question 2020-03-28 11-19-25 PDT Sergei Izmailov (it's non-trivial and ~~sometimes~~ most of time impossible to unload python module) 2020-02-21 13-00-03 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, here is another ping ;) 2020-04-01 02-21-47 PDT Sergei Izmailov What do you think? 2020-03-02 10-36-27 PST Sergei Izmailov thx 2020-01-31 16-05-20 PST Sergei Izmailov Just random freaks who decided to be against and made some hype. 2020-03-29 15-48-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov Sometimes it happens to all of us (humans) 2020-02-02 14-07-06 PST Sergei Izmailov I think I can help you fix it 2020-03-29 15-43-29 PDT Sergei Izmailov I didn't touch `inkex/base.py` at all 2020-04-01 02-20-10 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm going to sort out all stock extensions based on their type `effect/input/output` and sub-menu name.
For example `render_barcode.{inx,py}` are going to `stock/effect/barcode/classic/` 2020-01-31 15-49-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-02-02 14-12-17 PST Sergei Izmailov What do you look at 2020-03-28 11-34-54 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've pushed commit with this change 2020-03-29 15-46-50 PDT Sergei Izmailov All of `inkex/elements/*` 2020-01-30 03-12-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Added commits/comments, please take a look 2020-03-28 12-44-39 PDT Sergei Izmailov This means `exec` doesn't do much 2020-03-02 08-55-07 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you think about inconveniences you (and others) meet on daily basis that can be solved with extension/extra web page? 2020-03-28 11-37-31 PDT Sergei Izmailov no, of course 2020-03-30 12-05-33 PDT Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=3XZtMgFo4NxJeCf2P) What do you mean? () 2020-03-04 08-07-03 PST Sergei Izmailov I did take a look, but unresolved issues seems to be time-consuming and I don't really have too much spare time these days 2020-03-28 11-42-09 PDT Sergei Izmailov `tests/test_inkex.py` is a bit off-standard: it doesn't define test functions/methods, it causes top-level error on failure. But I think it's fine. 2020-03-29 15-28-42 PDT Sergei Izmailov I can withdraw "veryfy no name clash" from MR so we can address this separately 2020-03-30 12-01-18 PDT Sergei Izmailov I think it's bad decision. Looks like you ignored/didn't address my arguments.
The only use for public-available submodules of `inkex/elements/*` is `from inkex.elements.primitives import *` which is should be discouraged.
For regular imports `from inkex.elements import Group` is always preferable to `from inkex.elements.groups import Group`.
Anyhow by the of the day it's up to you. 2020-02-07 08-44-04 PST Sergei Izmailov Take you time. I'll keep pinging once a week :) 2020-03-28 12-45-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov I tried next snippet which is roughly what you have, right?
```
gl, loc = {}, {}
exec("import inkex", gl, loc)
print(dir(loc["inkex"]))
gl2, loc2 = {}, {}
exec("import inkex", gl2, loc2)
print(dir(loc2["inkex"]))
``` 2020-02-07 08-45-31 PST Sergei Izmailov I'll take a look 2020-01-31 15-53-27 PST Sergei Izmailov By the way, here in Russia, I don't feel like we are going in bright future either :) 2020-03-30 12-09-27 PDT Sergei Izmailov :) 2020-03-28 01-42-46 PDT Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=gnkKZk8bB2tGYrSXZ) Is there automated tool to verify?
I think there should be no conflict as the only thing was changed is content of `inkex.elements` now resides in `inkex` too, so it's very limited list to check. () 2020-02-02 14-12-49 PST Sergei Izmailov ? 2020-03-29 13-08-22 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've pushed updateв "dummy scheme" check. It's far from being perfect, but it's never false-negative. I think it's good enough for file that doesn't change often. 2020-03-28 12-52-34 PDT Sergei Izmailov ```python
import inkex
gl, loc = {}, {}
with open(inkex.__file__, 'r') as fhl:
exec (fhl.read(), gl, loc)
```
gives me
```
/usr/bin/python3.7 /home/sergei/CLionProjects/inkscape/share/extensions/TEMP2.py
:15: ImportWarning: can't resolve package from __spec__ or __package__, falling back on __name__ and __path__
/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/apport/report.py:13: DeprecationWarning: the imp module is deprecated in favour of importlib; see the module's documentation for alternative uses
import fnmatch, glob, traceback, errno, sys, atexit, locale, imp
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/sergei/CLionProjects/inkscape/share/extensions/TEMP2.py", line 4, in
exec (fhl.read(), gl, loc)
File "", line 15, in
KeyError: "'__name__' not in globals"
``` 2020-04-01 12-28-59 PDT Sergei Izmailov I think it's better to keep "extension-directory" structure even if it contains only two files (`.inx` and `.py` ) 2020-01-29 08-16-40 PST Sergei Izmailov Will you be here to give a quick feedback? 2020-04-01 02-18-05 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-01-28 13-57-05 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-03-02 14-16-15 PST Sergei Izmailov It doesn't require job id 2020-04-06 20-41-26 PDT Sergei Izmailov Thanks, I'm really on my limit.
May be I'll step aside from discussion. I think already said all I wanted to say (and at least you did understand me).
I can give a (final) code review tough. 2020-03-30 12-21-13 PDT Sergei Izmailov Again, it's minor thing, but I think it's worth to do it right. Let's ask someone else if we cannot converge on it. 2020-03-28 11-18-09 PDT Sergei Izmailov It can go to tests as well, right 2020-03-30 12-24-16 PDT Sergei Izmailov (or push-without-MR policy) 2020-03-27 19-53-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov I have two options: rely on python convention and make all non-underscore variables exported, or explicitly list everything in `__all__` 2020-01-31 16-03-16 PST Sergei Izmailov The cite from post-soviet KINO band 2020-03-29 15-30-05 PDT Sergei Izmailov probably we can merge it right away, right? 2020-03-02 14-15-54 PST Sergei Izmailov I've missed https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/api/jobs.html#download-a-single-artifact-file-fr… 2020-03-29 15-50-34 PDT Sergei Izmailov cool, thanks! 2020-03-02 14-18-23 PST Sergei Izmailov Don't spend time on it. I'm still not sure what it's for. If it's for web site only we can do arbitrary complex queries. 2020-02-28 07-31-28 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, here is one more ping 2020-03-02 09-02-07 PST Sergei Izmailov Please let me know if you think this extension is worth it and how and what we would improve with it. 2020-02-02 14-08-48 PST Sergei Izmailov I see your point. It's apparently works, performance greatly improved, so it might be not as important as many other things. 2020-03-27 19-56-14 PDT Sergei Izmailov Strictly speaking prefixing non-exported stuff with underscore would be a breaking change 2020-03-27 23-00-04 PDT Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/181 2020-01-31 16-30-35 PST Sergei Izmailov Yeah, good news about delta. :) 2020-03-29 15-30-48 PDT Sergei Izmailov Didn't we agree on `_base.py` ? 2020-02-21 17-57-31 PST Sergei Izmailov Yeah, thanks! The process is no fan, so it's easy to get close to apathy-like state, which slows process even further. Hopefully I will be able to finish it in two weeks from now. 2020-03-28 13-21-54 PDT Sergei Izmailov (I'm staying home, but still, i'm going :) 2020-01-31 15-49-49 PST Sergei Izmailov I know you are busy with many problems 2020-03-02 08-54-12 PST Sergei Izmailov It's not a problem to make two extensions for most popular browsers 2020-01-28 13-57-14 PST Sergei Izmailov Added some comments to MR 2020-04-06 09-34-45 PDT Sergei Izmailov I could have make my own MR in half of time I've already spent on the discussion, but I thought it would be worth to guide a new potential member of community. 2020-03-28 12-34-35 PDT Sergei Izmailov It means a bit of rewriting of `assertNoCollisions` 2020-03-28 12-43-49 PDT Sergei Izmailov It should be printed only once 2020-03-02 09-09-04 PST Sergei Izmailov Is there special channel? 2020-03-28 10-55-22 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've turned your idea with module inspection into robust procedure. We can be sure there is no name conflict and we are protected from future pitfalls. 2020-02-07 08-43-41 PST Sergei Izmailov Ok. I was afraid that something unspoken keeps you from review. 2020-04-01 12-31-42 PDT Sergei Izmailov We should sacrifice architecture last 2020-03-29 15-45-28 PDT Sergei Izmailov No problem, I should have accent your attention on it (I had impression you get me wrong) 2020-02-02 14-09-14 PST Sergei Izmailov But it still bothers me as we leave known bug without even note 2020-03-29 12-38-45 PDT Sergei Izmailov I appreciate that "dummy scheme" is not elegant, but it's robust and straightforward to maintain (although it's extra manual work). 2020-03-02 08-57-51 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm asking because there should be set of problems to solve. Otherwise it's just a play 2020-01-29 08-35-58 PST Sergei Izmailov I didn't start yet 2020-04-01 12-17-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov There are some
```
$ find stock -iname '*.inx' -exec grep --color " hidden=" {} +
stock/effect/inkscape_manual/inkscape_help_manual.inx:
stock/effect/envelope/template_envelope.inx:
stock/effect/follow_link/inkscape_follow_link.inx:
stock/effect/dvd_cover/template_dvd_cover.inx:
stock/effect/business_card/template_business_card.inx:
stock/effect/seamless_pattern/template_seamless_pattern.inx:
stock/effect/report_a_bug/inkscape_help_reportabug.inx:
stock/effect/blank_page/template_page.inx:
stock/effect/new_in_this_version/inkscape_help_relnotes.inx:
stock/effect/desktop/template_desktop.inx:
stock/effect/keys_and_mouse_reference/inkscape_help_keys.inx:
stock/effect/ask_us_a_question/inkscape_help_askaquestion.inx:
stock/effect/video_screen/template_video.inx:
stock/effect/icon/template_icon.inx:
stock/effect/svg_11_specification/inkscape_help_svgspec.inx:
stock/effect/command_line_options/inkscape_help_commandline.inx:
stock/effect/faq/inkscape_help_faq.inx:
stock/effect/generic_canvas/template_generic.inx:
stock/effect/embed_selected_images/embedselectedimages.inx:
``` 2020-04-01 12-30-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov Then directory walker should be optimized. 2020-01-31 16-28-39 PST Sergei Izmailov I know "there are people who suffer much more" never helps.
You are doing good valuable stuff and apparently you _enjoy it_. I think this should you keep you above depression level all the time you work :) 2020-03-28 11-37-26 PDT Sergei Izmailov damn 2020-03-28 11-43-12 PDT Sergei Izmailov I want to keep it as close to `inkex/__init__.py` as possible. Don't you think it's worth it? 2020-04-02 07-28-34 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, should I assign stock extension sort to you ? 2020-04-01 12-29-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov Otherwise it starts resemble existing pile of files 2020-02-14 10-37-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, here is weekly review-my-MRs ping :) 2020-01-28 18-43-17 PST Sergei Izmailov I hoped we could nail it down quickly, but now it's my turn to leave :) 2020-03-02 08-59-02 PST Sergei Izmailov Probably most of experienced people overcome it with their own tools/hacks. We can gather it, rework and provide a better tool 2020-04-10 10-54-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov (of course it would require changes in `.inx` file, but it's still less work than porting extension to python3, e.g. abandoned ones with no maintainer) 2020-03-02 14-19-10 PST Sergei Izmailov I was wondering if you know some well-hidden / undocumented feature 2020-03-30 12-07-37 PDT Sergei Izmailov go ahead 2020-03-28 13-16-05 PDT Sergei Izmailov As it should be equivalent to star import 2020-02-07 08-42-27 PST Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/170 2020-02-02 14-05-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-02-21 16-18-31 PST Sergei Izmailov Almost nohow wrt inkscape. I'm rushing my thesis, I have almost no spare time these days. 2020-03-27 17-19-08 PDT Sergei Izmailov I can create a MR to address `__all__` issue + importability of any component from head `inkex`. Those two seems to be coupled enough to go in single MR. 2020-04-10 11-11-11 PDT Sergei Izmailov While I was writing this I realized that latter is the right way to go. Sorry for bothering you :( 2020-03-30 12-16-06 PDT Sergei Izmailov If they do and then things break it's THEIR fault, not ours 2020-03-30 12-18-41 PDT Sergei Izmailov I want to provide reach API with minimum possible guarantees.
Submoudles structure doesn't contribute to API/convenience, so should be hidden. 2020-03-28 11-34-54 PDT Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/181/diffs?commit_id… 2020-03-02 09-00-41 PST Sergei Izmailov It could be there is no common denominator in community and workflow pattern is hairy and differ from one person to another. 2020-03-02 14-10-42 PST Sergei Izmailov I was thinking about more reliable way to do `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/master/download?job=appimage%3Alinux` 2020-03-28 10-58-31 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm for `inkex/elements/base` -> `inkex/elements/_base` 2020-03-28 12-30-43 PDT Sergei Izmailov https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#exec 2020-03-28 10-59-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov So we use "base" name secretly within `elements` for private needs 2020-03-31 11-44-36 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, I'm not sure I can (should) push to your MR branch, so I've added a couple of comments with minor changes. 2020-01-29 08-36-04 PST Sergei Izmailov I'll do in hour or two 2020-03-28 11-28-32 PDT Sergei Izmailov True, but I would prefer to keep it in `import *` style to ease sync 2020-01-31 15-49-59 PST Sergei Izmailov ? 2020-03-04 07-24-42 PST Sergei Izmailov Ok, I'll do. 2020-03-30 12-23-17 PDT Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=XwAigzgntR2zTbs5J) Seems to be a problem. () 2020-01-31 15-54-20 PST Sergei Izmailov My current "plan" is simple. Just outlive idiots in the government 2020-03-29 12-36-35 PDT Sergei Izmailov I don't understand your approach.
You are executing statements from module line by line. But module contains relative paths to other modules. It doesn't work like that.
Hot-patching source is not a reliable procedure. I feel more comfortable with dummy scheme I use right now (copy-paste imports & add checking commands) 2020-04-01 11-23-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov This restructuring is not free, it needs extensive testing as many extensions rely one on another and particular file structure which is disturbed now.
I think it's not a bad idea to hold it until 1.y (it's potentially buggy infrastructural change with near-zero value to end users). 2020-01-31 16-02-21 PST Sergei Izmailov Pussy riot didn't change a thing. In their confrontation there was no good side. 2020-03-02 14-11-03 PST Sergei Izmailov Sometimes it's a 404 for no obvious reason 2020-04-01 04-59-31 PDT Sergei Izmailov Here is preliminary layout https://gitlab.com/sizmailov/extensions/-/tree/sort-stock-extensions/stock 2020-03-02 08-53-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Is firefox primary browser in inskcape community? 2020-02-02 14-14-25 PST Sergei Izmailov The testing part is no obvious to me 2020-03-02 08-50-32 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, I'm not really familiar with reporters workflow, but I guess they have to download bundles quite often.
I've build a chrome extension to augment every comment-link with direct link to appimage artefact. It's not a whole lot of time saving, but still, it's 1 click instead of 5. I think I can make it work for Mac and WIndows as well.
https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/F3rsGK8BJtAoz5NjY/AppImage%20links
Moini mentioned another problem: publish most recent master/1.0 branch artifact link on web site, etc.
What do you think. Can we simplify reporter/tester workflow a bit? 2020-03-02 14-12-03 PST Sergei Izmailov What you suggest requires predictable file name, but it's not for inkscape bundles 2020-04-01 11-28-57 PDT Sergei Izmailov Are they abandoned/obsolete/not (yet) working? 2020-02-07 08-45-53 PST Sergei Izmailov (without promise to do anything so far) 2020-03-28 13-21-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov Sorry, need to go. I'll get back to it tomorrow 2020-03-02 14-13-58 PST Sergei Izmailov Yes 2020-04-01 12-21-39 PDT Sergei Izmailov Templates probably should go to `stock/template` instead of `stock/effect` 2020-03-28 11-45-49 PDT Sergei Izmailov Right 2020-03-04 07-28-52 PST Sergei Izmailov meeting happens in chat? 2020-03-28 11-38-52 PDT Sergei Izmailov (fixed) 2020-03-04 08-04-51 PST Sergei Izmailov Cool 2020-04-10 10-52-51 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi!
What do you think about setting a couple of env variables in inkscape?
They can be used to enable python2-only extensions within inkscape-1.0 environment.
**Variables set by inkscape:**
```bash
INKSCAPE_SYSTEM_DIR=...
INKSCAPE_USER_DIR=...
```
Then we can turn python2 extension into a bash extension via simple wrapper script:
```bash
export PYTHONPATH="$INKSCAPE_SYSTEM_DIR/extensions/deprecated-simple:$INKSCAPE_USER_DIR/extensions"
my/path/to/python2 $@
``` 2020-03-27 22-59-54 PDT Sergei Izmailov It turned out that core change is really small as you already had almost everything in place 2020-03-28 13-16-22 PDT Sergei Izmailov This is silly 2020-04-01 11-28-07 PDT Sergei Izmailov By the way what is the status of "hidden" extensions? 2020-02-02 14-07-33 PST Sergei Izmailov (if you plan to work on it next days) 2020-03-04 08-08-27 PST Sergei Izmailov I do something here and there to have a brake with my thesis 2020-04-01 12-30-11 PDT Sergei Izmailov By how much? 2020-03-02 08-51-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Extension is most powerful tool available, but it's not as flexible as curated self-hosted web-page. 2020-03-28 13-15-52 PDT Sergei Izmailov this should give an error, right? 2020-02-02 14-47-06 PST Sergei Izmailov ok, thanks 2020-03-02 14-14-50 PST Sergei Izmailov `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/456464633/artifacts/raw/Inkscape-2a7dc7f-x86_64.AppImage` does the trick, but it requires job id and commit sha 2020-03-02 14-09-19 PST Sergei Izmailov oh, 2020-03-31 11-46-45 PDT Sergei Izmailov I was talking about https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/182 2020-03-28 12-42-00 PDT Sergei Izmailov I mean the "initialize once" problem is still there 2020-01-29 08-16-17 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, I'm going to submit a couple of improvements to inkex today 2020-03-31 11-47-39 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've seen your revert, thanks for reassessing. Probably I've turned too early to others 2020-03-29 15-45-06 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've pushed rebased version without name clash checks, please see 2020-04-02 07-37-39 PDT Sergei Izmailov Not really. But it's always better earlier than later. 2020-03-27 19-54-40 PDT Sergei Izmailov It can be mixed solution, i.e. we can rely on convention in one module and redefine `__all__` in another one 2020-03-27 17-14-37 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi!
Do you plan to do followup to https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/178 ?
2020-01-29 08-36-17 PST Sergei Izmailov Let me look at MR 2020-03-02 13-13-04 PST Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=uf8ja8aukNfDiz8ZD) What is it? () 2020-03-04 07-17-58 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, can you have another look at https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extensions/-/merge_requests/170 ? 2020-01-31 15-49-59 PST Sergei Izmailov Would you find a minute to review MRs 2020-04-01 12-32-51 PDT Sergei Izmailov We *may* sacrifice it, but as a last resort. 2020-03-04 07-30-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Not sure how helpful would I be, but ok, I'll try to attend 2020-04-01 02-21-28 PDT Sergei Izmailov Deep subdirectories seems to be already supported in master, (didn't test 1.0) 2020-03-30 12-13-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov 1) I did a clean up. And no extension currently use elements submodule explicitly
2) It's about guarantees we make, not about what people do 2020-03-04 07-29-16 PST Sergei Izmailov In principle I think I can be there 2020-02-02 14-06-22 PST Sergei Izmailov GUI testing is not fast and easy 2020-03-29 15-47-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov I think it's better to keep this split an "implementation detail" 2020-01-31 15-50-56 PST Sergei Izmailov May I ask you where are you from? 2020-03-02 14-09-31 PST Sergei Izmailov ;) 2020-01-28 18-44-51 PST Sergei Izmailov I think I'll be back in 15 hours or so. See you 2020-03-02 14-08-32 PST Sergei Izmailov yep 2020-04-01 12-22-22 PDT Sergei Izmailov See the link above 2020-03-28 11-18-55 PDT Sergei Izmailov Python modules are loaded once no matter what 2020-03-29 12-39-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov We can add extra check that all import statements from `inkex/__init__.py` present in `tests/test_inkex.py` 2020-02-07 08-42-05 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you give a review for extension MRs ? 2020-03-28 10-57-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov I don't think it's really feasible, let me try 2020-02-02 14-12-09 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you describe how you test it 2020-04-01 05-01-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov There is plenty of clean-up and checks to be done, but alreay you can see the picture in broad lines 2020-03-30 12-15-47 PDT Sergei Izmailov Seems like you didn't get it. Its up to user to rely on submodule structure or not. 2020-03-30 12-23-52 PDT Sergei Izmailov Probably it's a sign to revise list of high-privilege members of all repos 2020-04-06 09-33-18 PDT Sergei Izmailov Are my comments illiterate rubbish and no one can read it? 2020-01-31 16-02-51 PST Sergei Izmailov Some may support them because
"Those who are against those who are against us
Can't cope with them without us" 2020-03-04 07-52-33 PST Sergei Izmailov Force-push of rebased commits wiped out your approval. 2020-03-28 11-18-35 PDT Sergei Izmailov The main issue - testing "the right thing". 2020-02-02 14-06-13 PST Sergei Izmailov I want to help with bbox MR, but I'm really limited in time 2020-04-10 05-52-55 PDT Sergei Izmailov ok, no problem. What is 1.0 release date by the way? 2020-03-28 12-43-33 PDT Sergei Izmailov Add `print(__name__, "init complete")` to the end of `inkex/__init__.py` 2020-03-28 01-44-51 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'll check it one more time manually today and let you know. 2020-03-29 12-30-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov I mean your example seems to be based on unittest 2020-03-30 12-09-02 PDT Sergei Izmailov No, should I? 2020-03-28 13-15-31 PDT Sergei Izmailov ```
def test_inkex_paths(self):
"""Test path API have no collisions"""
self.assertNoCollisions(inkex.paths)
``` 2020-04-10 04-53-11 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi,
just wanted to remind you about extension sort MR (it awaits your review) 2020-03-04 07-22-45 PST Sergei Izmailov Although changes must be well-reviewed 2020-03-29 15-43-50 PDT Sergei Izmailov All discussion was about `inkex/elements/*` 2020-03-28 12-55-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov Ok, seems to be hacky, but working solution 2020-03-04 07-25-50 PST Sergei Izmailov I know it's not fun to keep updating your extension which did work yesterday, but it's cost of keeping up with latest chagnes 2020-03-27 17-16-01 PDT Sergei Izmailov I think can help there (along the lines of my comment to !178). 2020-03-04 07-22-11 PST Sergei Izmailov That's why it's better to do sooner than later. 2020-04-10 10-58-09 PDT Sergei Izmailov It's almost equivalent to calling `inkscape --system-data-director`, but it takes more than 0.1 second on my machine which is a lot for such a simple operation. 2020-02-02 14-46-17 PST Sergei Izmailov By box you mean dashed selection line, right? 2020-03-27 20-01-20 PDT Sergei Izmailov Probably prefixing with underscore is more about making parts of API "private", probably should be addressed in separate MR 2020-01-28 13-57-24 PST Sergei Izmailov We can discuss if you are still there. 2020-03-30 12-14-59 PDT Sergei Izmailov Being nice to everyone is not possible. Sometimes you have to tell people they are wrong. That's how they mature and grow as programmers 2020-03-28 11-20-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm going to move all this fortification to tests, so we don't have overhead in inkex 2020-03-30 12-10-20 PDT Sergei Izmailov What would people copy and paste? 2020-03-02 09-04-33 PST Sergei Izmailov Sorry for bothering you in person, but the comment in dev chat got no reaction. May be it's worth waiting with this discussion until May 2020-02-07 08-41-48 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-01-31 16-07-38 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm a bit out of trend, but currently I don't see some who actively do riot performances.
It feels like almost everyone does a bit. 2020-03-28 10-53-56 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-03-04 07-27-39 PST Sergei Izmailov As long it's beta it's permissible, once 1.0 released we have some obligations. 2020-01-31 16-08-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Even one who used to be completely apolitical starting making some claims 2020-03-04 07-26-40 PST Sergei Izmailov inkscape itself changes CLI and probably other public interfaces 2020-04-01 12-33-20 PDT Sergei Izmailov Sure, this project is not nearly ready to review 2020-01-29 10-24-54 PST Sergei Izmailov Sorry, already getting sleepy. Probably I'll be unable to submit today, probably in next couple of days 2020-01-31 15-52-06 PST Sergei Izmailov One of the last countries I would think as "suicidal" 2020-03-28 11-13-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=WRgATvvaE4ZyyfSYt) Ok, it's possible but we have to repeat everything from `inkex/__init__.py` in test function, it's not bad on it's own, but the question how to keep it in sync? At least we can place a comment to `inkex/__init__.py` to reflect changes in corresponding test file () 2020-03-28 12-41-40 PDT Sergei Izmailov Did you test it? 2020-04-02 07-39-42 PDT Sergei Izmailov Maybe someone (including me) will fix some bugs in core extensions.
It's better to avoid extra rebases/merge conflicts
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2018-11-17 11-40-37 PST Martin Owens I need some help for new forums pages, it uses bootstrap and doesn't use the website's theme. Are you interested in helping? 2018-11-17 12-28-08 PST Martin Owens search.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/wwWbyy37EvWYbBz3J/search.zip) 2018-11-18 15-06-19 PST Martin Owens And a haystack thing to boot 2018-11-17 12-27-56 PST Martin Owens Understood. I have a zip file, it contains two html pages for searching. The task is to make it look better. 2019-09-28 14-15-55 PDT Martin Owens The translators and docs writers may not have much of a choice though. I would welcome a discussion about what kind of tools we should move towards, but a remain option would be invalid while there's no technological support. 2019-09-28 14-13-49 PDT Martin Owens The difficulty with django cms is not politics. It's technological. Django cms is 3 to 5 times slower at producing a page of content than a normal django response and it gets slower the more languages are made available. 2019-09-29 16-29-29 PDT Martin Owens It is good. Apart from "much performance" which should be "many resources". Performance is a quality not a mass noun. 2018-11-18 15-00-44 PST Martin Owens Does the task fit with you at all? 2019-09-30 13-31-28 PDT Martin Owens Thanks. We're restricted to open source only tools. So I think Transifex is out, but we could look for something similar. 2018-11-18 15-02-51 PST Martin Owens No a problem at all, if it looks good enough already then your check is as good as any redesign. 2019-09-29 07-08-30 PDT Martin Owens Thanks! This will help with the development and I agree about making sure everyone knows. 2019-09-29 07-08-45 PDT Martin Owens Do you want to make a poll for the translator team? 2018-11-18 15-16-47 PST Martin Owens Bye! 2018-11-18 15-08-38 PST Martin Owens haystack is the search engine tech, the code that pulls out the words is theirs. 2018-11-17 12-28-22 PST Martin Owens You don't have to worry about the functionality, just what it looks like. 2018-11-17 11-40-00 PST Martin Owens Hi there! 2019-09-29 18-24-06 PDT Martin Owens Yes please. Merci bucou! 2019-09-28 14-14-47 PDT Martin Owens Removing the cms from the website should make the website faster and the editing process would move away from the website to other services which can provide review, diff, history etc. 2018-11-18 15-15-04 PST Martin Owens `to boot` it's an old saxon word used in modern englishto mean `add on top to make good` 2019-09-28 05-07-03 PDT Frigory Hello Martin. I’m contacting you about your request to change the website’s architecture. So you said you want to get rid of Django CMS? Why? You had too many problems with their political choices? 2019-09-30 13-26-11 PDT Frigory Four people have answered the form. No body gave anything specific, except one person who gave a comment:
‘I used Transifex Live in other project. it was amazing for me as translator. https://docs.transifex.com/live/introduction https://www.transifex.com/live_demo’ 2019-09-30 14-07-05 PDT Frigory It was cool for me to use my communication skills to engage people to accept the migration. I feel such a migration is often an opportunity for people to leave a project without a good reason, but with this form, people will be less likely to do it. :relaxed: 2019-09-29 16-56-50 PDT Frigory Finally, I’ve chosen to support PO files, because this will avoid having very old translations left by some people in languages, so I feel it’s safer. 2018-11-18 15-02-18 PST Frigory I’m not a good designer, I hardly see how I could improve the page’s look. 2018-11-17 11-47-36 PST Frigory Hi! It depends on the task. I’m able to follow very straightforward instructions, and I can hardly take any initiative. 2019-09-29 16-57-37 PDT Frigory Well… So I send this to the translators? 2018-11-18 15-07-42 PST Frigory I don’t understand what you’re referring to with your haystack thing. Is it a joke? 2018-11-18 15-05-55 PST Frigory I’d say the searched term should appear more in the middle of the sentences that are given to show it’s in the article (currently, it appears in the beginning), but that’s more a programming thing. 2019-09-29 05-31-33 PDT Frigory So you say that for translations, we could use either Gettext/PO or other Markdown files. Gettext would be useful to deal with the changes strings (and it deals automatically with the removed strings). But I don’t have much of an opinion; both solutions would be okay for me. We should make a poll for the translator team. 2018-11-18 15-12-59 PST Frigory OK. And what do you mean by ‘booting’ it? 2019-09-28 08-47-48 PDT Frigory Concerning my ability to contribute, for now, I will prioritize my work as a translator, as Inkscape 1.0 is said to come soon. 2019-09-29 16-50-44 PDT Frigory Oh, yeah. It’s a false friend. In French, we say ‘performances’ for the capability of a computer. 2019-09-29 16-57-12 PDT Frigory You didn’t write your email in the field ‘Name and email’… I see only your name in the results. 2019-09-29 08-45-18 PDT Frigory I’ve prepared a form. It’s my very first form… You might find it’s a bit long, but I care a lot about getting information and feedback from people:
https://framaforms.org/changing-inkscapes-website-architecture-1569767855
Note that more fields appear if you check that you are a ‘Developer’ or a ‘Translator’. Can you check that my English is right? 2018-11-17 11-49-17 PST Frigory Therefore if straightforward, clear, non-problematic instructions come to me, I will follow them without thinking much about it. Otherwise I may quickly feel I’m stuck and I need daddy Martin. 2018-11-18 15-07-19 PST Frigory I actually have very simple exigencies regarding to design; I’m only focused on clarity and efficiency. I have bad tastes. 2019-09-29 05-09-32 PDT Frigory Even though translators and docs writers won’t have the choice, I think they should be informed of the potential migration once we are sure that the solution is good for your point of view. This might be an opportunity to show some appreciation or some wishes. I guess you understand that. I don’t like much using code to generate pages, but Markdown is not so far from WYSIWYG. So the migration you suggest is okay for me. 2019-09-28 08-03-10 PDT Frigory At first, I didn’t think that getting rid of Django CMS also meant getting rid of CKEditor. So if I understand well, with the new architecture, the website authors and translators will have to use Git and Markdown. This should not be a problem because we already have to use Git to translate Inkscape and its docs. But such a change may cause some people to be troubled and to cease to contribute to the website, so we should ask on inkscape-translator and on inkscape-docs if the current authors and translators agree to the change before doing it. It would be safer. 2019-09-29 05-03-47 PDT Frigory So you weren’t able to diagnose why Django cms is so slow? I realized that replacing Django cms by Git and Markdown would make the website faster, but I forgot to talk about it… Indeed I’m too sad that there’s no longer the feature that selects automatically the correct language for the user. 2018-11-18 15-16-37 PST Frigory OK. Well, it’s nightly here! See you! 2019-09-29 05-27-04 PDT Frigory I’ve created the page https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/wikis/website/about/overview according to your instructions. I put it in a folder ‘website’ as there are already some pages in the wiki… So I had to change the internal links. But all this works with some find and replace. We could certainly set up a script to do the work for us. 2019-09-28 07-57-15 PDT Frigory To my mind, if the political choices of Django CMS were not right for you, you could imagine forking it, as it seems you had no problem to touch the code of the CMS. Then you could fix the bug and adapt the CMS for our needs. But I understand that it may require a lot of work from you, so using command-line tools might be simpler. I love the concept of graphical software, but I have never seen any piece of graphical software which is non-buggy and well-designed! It is as if it’s too hard to show that you can do a fantastic interface for people. But command-line tools often work perfectly. 2019-09-28 05-08-26 PDT Frigory Where has this be discussed?
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2020-09-25 14-17-54 PDT Martin Owens I can only guess that it's an accident. 2018-11-24 20-33-59 PST Martin Owens Ah, sorry to hear that. Anything I can do to help? Maybe look over the code and see if I can figure something out? 2018-11-26 13-17-24 PST Martin Owens I like them. Maybe we can copy the emote icon from rocket chat 2018-11-20 08-53-55 PST Martin Owens Is this the first time you've seen the above topic list page? 2018-11-30 18-35-39 PST Martin Owens I will look into that, I think it needs to download them, but must be mislinked 2018-11-27 15-42-36 PST Martin Owens But the template drives what things will be loaded for the cms. So cut that out and the cms load goes away. 2018-11-23 10-27-40 PST Martin Owens Yes, I'm up in Vermont with family too 2018-11-23 10-25-01 PST Martin Owens I think the last bits will take me a day or two. 2018-12-01 20-19-23 PST Martin Owens Should we remove the dotted box around links when clicked? 2018-11-30 18-38-15 PST Martin Owens /data/media/ 2018-11-18 15-05-59 PST Martin Owens It's plural so `git checkout forums3` 2018-11-18 15-19-12 PST Martin Owens Did you work from your existing directory? 2018-11-23 19-49-26 PST Martin Owens You can add them, I haven't done anything on those. 2018-12-09 16-24-40 PST Martin Owens No, there are CMS pages, and then there are non-cms pages. News for example is non-cms, but it's translatable because I built translability into it. the releases app is translatable because I built translatability into it. 2019-01-31 23-56-09 PST Martin Owens Oh, I don't think I know that one. 2018-11-28 16-40-37 PST Martin Owens The animation is great! 2018-11-18 15-35-59 PST Martin Owens Can you confirm what version of python3 you have? `python3 --version` 2018-11-27 16-08-50 PST Martin Owens You can 2018-11-29 13-50-53 PST Martin Owens Let me have a little dig into it. If it's too many deps then you can continue to use it locally. If not too many, the. We can integrate it as it could help get CSS people to help us. 2018-11-23 10-28-55 PST Martin Owens Thanks! 2018-11-27 12-04-53 PST Martin Owens no 2018-11-20 08-58-48 PST Martin Owens I've always been ok with her saying no, she's said it before. 2018-11-23 15-11-02 PST Martin Owens Ah, English is quite weird, if not bizarre 2018-11-23 19-04-09 PST Martin Owens Once you've changed the file, press the `Commit...` button 2020-09-25 14-43-25 PDT Martin Owens Order of months. 2018-11-26 12-10-29 PST Martin Owens It's got a Terminate catcher that catches the C and asks you to quit properly. 2018-11-29 14-03-43 PST Martin Owens Using include right 2018-11-26 13-16-48 PST Martin Owens Yes please! 2018-11-26 13-01-56 PST Martin Owens Also congratulations sorting out this running website. Very impressed. 😎 2018-11-26 12-48-47 PST Martin Owens Away from my computer right now. Did I commit any forums
Json to the git? 2018-11-29 13-56-14 PST Martin Owens Too many things. 2020-09-25 13-30-37 PDT Martin Owens No 2018-11-30 17-20-36 PST Martin Owens Also just pushed all the TODO items for the user account stuff, all working now. 2018-12-02 09-30-11 PST Martin Owens I'll keep to functionality and python 2020-03-28 14-45-00 PDT Martin Owens The instructions repeat for the next product, they look the same. 2020-03-28 14-37-45 PDT Martin Owens Oh that, that's a me'ism, I say it's it's, the rest of the English speaking world says its its 2018-11-28 14-27-13 PST Martin Owens So blocks are ways for us to control where content goes when we inherit from one template to another 2018-12-02 17-53-59 PST Martin Owens That second comment list need some design, as it's kind of funky looking. 2020-08-11 14-24-41 PDT Martin Owens Fixed 2018-11-27 13-04-37 PST Martin Owens notice I used bs3 2020-09-23 21-59-31 PDT Martin Owens Your retired? 2018-11-20 08-09-59 PST Martin Owens It can be, the comment list page doesn't have the online users list like the other pages. 2018-11-25 17-16-07 PST Martin Owens I can but I will have to check locally first 2018-11-17 16-10-00 PST Martin Owens lol 2018-11-20 08-50-42 PST Martin Owens Oh 2018-12-09 16-21-59 PST Martin Owens I don't believe team pages are translated (or translatable) 2018-11-18 15-03-42 PST Martin Owens No, `-b` will create a local branch called `remotes/origin/forum3` without pulling in the actual remote. 2018-11-23 18-58-23 PST Martin Owens give it a name and select create from `master` 2018-11-23 15-02-08 PST Martin Owens So many buttons! so much design! 2020-08-11 07-07-59 PDT Martin Owens Well yes. But I bet you 10 to 1 odds that if we start raising money for features the conservancy (which is very legally conservative) is going to have things to say. 2018-11-17 16-25-48 PST Martin Owens Thanks! 2020-08-11 07-06-36 PDT Martin Owens Moini turned down a board position in 2018. 2018-11-18 15-35-47 PST Martin Owens Makes sense 2018-11-27 13-33-29 PST Martin Owens (last modification datetime) 2018-11-17 15-52-02 PST Martin Owens Firefox CORs is broken for file:// 2020-09-25 13-30-57 PDT Martin Owens Mostly because it was the wrong theater for it. 2018-11-17 16-03-45 PST Martin Owens comment-thread.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/PZ3skMaDdEmpzRG9Z/comment-thread.zip) 2020-09-24 06-33-36 PDT Martin Owens (also was it me? I can suck sometimes) 2018-11-20 08-57-24 PST Martin Owens There isn't one. This adventure is a gambit to convince brynn and other forum users to use the website instead of setting up a new php based solution. 2018-11-27 13-52-19 PST Martin Owens CSS is easier than templates, but both are technically possible. 2018-11-29 18-44-51 PST Martin Owens How is it going? 2018-11-23 19-05-41 PST Martin Owens Tested, the loop works 2018-11-25 22-56-59 PST Martin Owens Your changes have now been deployed to live 2018-11-23 15-04-23 PST Martin Owens International business machines, they had an internal dictionary of technical terms 2018-12-09 17-26-55 PST Martin Owens It can be main.css if you want a quick and dirty change, but you should know that it'll apply to the whole website. 2018-11-26 12-02-32 PST Martin Owens That guide doesn't mention installing python3.6 pip and virtualenv, I'll confirmt he instructions 2018-11-18 15-10-14 PST Martin Owens That's a different error 2018-11-25 09-20-28 PST Martin Owens For sure. 2018-11-17 16-03-29 PST Martin Owens Try this zip instead: 2018-11-27 13-26-19 PST Martin Owens https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/tree/a729aaa2baffea9338e1b0443cba… 2020-09-25 14-38-24 PDT Martin Owens I'm sorry I wasn't listening. 2020-09-25 13-34-52 PDT Martin Owens I think moderation is bound up in this. 2020-07-12 12-17-29 PDT Martin Owens Firstly agenda items for the board meeting. Was the item on the agenda? It looked like it didn't end up being there, so understanding the process you used to add the item (and why it failed) is the net step. 2020-09-25 01-48-24 PDT Martin Owens I'm sorry about your experence. 2018-12-01 09-13-31 PST Martin Owens So you should see each body tag has an `id="forum-page-{% url_name %}"` attribute. 2020-03-28 14-18-41 PDT Martin Owens I can 2020-09-25 14-05-29 PDT Martin Owens Nope 2018-11-17 16-22-49 PST Martin Owens You may have to create some forums in the admin interface. 2018-11-25 17-29-38 PST Martin Owens Actually scratch that, I was suffering from some caching problems. 2020-09-25 13-59-58 PDT Martin Owens Have you seen the state of our developer contributions? There are no star developers. 2020-09-25 14-27-46 PDT Martin Owens I can see these meetings have stabilized René who was very close to quitting. 2020-07-13 16-19-29 PDT Martin Owens For the website, the only thing I'll be aggrieved about is being forced to be a sysadmin for it. (Like I'm currently upset about being forced to baby the wiki site). If the cms needs to be a different thing, then so be it. Although you'll loose any plugins with the gallery, integrations with the releases site and other pieces so it should be considered carefully (and tested well) 2018-11-26 12-37-29 PST Martin Owens Yes 2020-09-25 14-08-58 PDT Martin Owens It's terrible. 2018-11-23 10-23-12 PST Martin Owens I have almost everything ready for a demo. Should I go ahead without your designs or wait? We can always add later. 2018-11-29 13-59-15 PST Martin Owens Need my help on the templates? 2018-11-30 18-13-34 PST Martin Owens OK so you can use meld to fix a merge conflict if you've not changed too much 2020-09-25 13-58-50 PDT Martin Owens This is what came up with conversations with others, mostly developers do far. 2020-07-04 15-48-49 PDT Martin Owens None AFAIK. 2018-11-20 08-50-58 PST Martin Owens Can you ignore what's on the live website, I threw it all away. 2018-12-01 09-15-42 PST Martin Owens No init, init is only needed when you start the process. I _do_ need to commit the migration update though... 2020-09-25 14-01-43 PDT Martin Owens I don't think so. I'm seeing stress in all teams. 2018-11-18 15-37-33 PST Martin Owens Trying to think of what we can do to fix it 2020-03-28 14-41-38 PDT Martin Owens (or change "Medical filter for viruses" to "virus filter" in the materials list) 2018-11-23 18-56-52 PST Martin Owens Or both? 2018-11-17 15-49-26 PST Martin Owens The emoji dropdown is javascript and may not load the pngs it's supposed to, but it'll still show the unicodes. 2020-09-25 14-14-30 PDT Martin Owens No, demanded. 2020-09-25 14-03-15 PDT Martin Owens His lack of leadership has hammered the project over the last two years. 2018-11-23 10-25-27 PST Martin Owens Cmi? 2018-11-25 17-58-44 PST Martin Owens OK so there's more to this basic menu branch than I can do right now (getting kicked out of the Tea Shop where I'm camped) 2018-11-27 16-22-02 PST Martin Owens Visible to everyone. The idea is to show a small (smallest that makes sense) row that there was activity. 2018-11-20 08-47-32 PST Martin Owens Does the bubbly design fit the other pages or do you think we'll have to change those too? 2018-11-29 15-34-15 PST Martin Owens If a block is in another block it just sits there, being a block. 2020-07-04 15-47-14 PDT Martin Owens https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_vectors?msg=kwBrKppR7iKiAAfTh () 2018-11-23 18-51-07 PST Martin Owens Yes, and will probably work too. 2018-11-26 12-33-56 PST Martin Owens Yes but replace `~/virtualenvs/venv_devopspy ` with `./pythonenv` 2018-11-26 12-10-50 PST Martin Owens Or at least it used to, mine is just giving me KeyboardInterupt. 2020-09-25 10-30-58 PDT Martin Owens I'm sorry to dig this up again, I don't want to bring this all back to you. I'm just staring at a gaping hole in our project and it's making me very sad that I seemingly can't help patch it. 2018-11-24 20-32-35 PST Martin Owens I should check in and see how you're doing. 2018-11-27 13-23-25 PST Martin Owens It depends on the license on them, do we know if they're all emojis or not? 2018-11-26 12-12-39 PST Martin Owens Fingers crossed the pip3 from python 3.4 is good enough. 2018-11-26 11-54-55 PST Martin Owens It's a research project. 2018-11-23 19-10-45 PST Martin Owens Oh right, because of HiDPI 2018-11-23 19-32-46 PST Martin Owens comment_list.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/w7i3fEyDMrBYjnpBG/comment_list.zip) 2018-11-25 18-07-57 PST Martin Owens Ok 2018-11-26 12-57-51 PST Martin Owens ./utils/manage migrate 2018-11-26 12-25-14 PST Martin Owens `pip install -r requirements.txt` 2019-01-31 23-59-13 PST Martin Owens Oh I thought that was the testing playground, do we have some struggler issues in there? 2018-11-20 08-44-30 PST Martin Owens So hopefully you can merge easily. 2018-11-23 19-13-44 PST Martin Owens `{{ comment.submit_date|ago }}` will give you just the time delta. timetag will make the tag. 2018-11-23 19-29-10 PST Martin Owens OK I've made a topic list 2018-11-27 13-56-08 PST Martin Owens Plus one has to think carefully about how caching will work 2018-11-28 16-35-48 PST Martin Owens Are you having fun with this project? 2018-11-25 18-41-52 PST Martin Owens Mobile scrolling dies on the old CSS. 2018-11-23 14-58-43 PST Martin Owens comment_pages.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/38tHSdxS2iZoLkMYX/comment_pages.zip) 2018-11-29 15-12-12 PST Martin Owens Yes. Do you feel like you need help? 2018-11-30 18-28-12 PST Martin Owens I will add for tomorrow if you are on your way out the door. 2018-12-09 15-33-33 PST Martin Owens Please create a merge request and I'll review. 2018-11-25 17-16-32 PST Martin Owens I'm actually in the middle of merging jabier's menu code too 2018-11-23 19-00-54 PST Martin Owens Oh right, my other left, aka right 2020-08-11 14-26-37 PDT Martin Owens Lately, about 25-35 hours a week. 2018-11-27 15-39-51 PST Martin Owens It's a resource template 2018-11-27 13-33-20 PST Martin Owens But the bold counts the last modification, which could be an edit. 2020-07-04 15-49-15 PDT Martin Owens That might be something to bring up at the board hackfest day 2018-11-30 18-12-23 PST Martin Owens Sorry for delay, was on my bike 2020-07-04 15-48-04 PDT Martin Owens Upgrade to visio like connectors to have multiple connector points. And fix the lack of update bug when you drag objects around. 2018-11-29 15-19-20 PST Martin Owens That's right, or it won't know where to put it. 2020-09-25 14-23-36 PDT Martin Owens I want it to take it's role as an advisor to team leaders, it's arbitor for moderation and it's other passive leadership respositibilities as active concerns and not things to just shrug over. 2018-11-26 12-47-57 PST Martin Owens So now we can load a forum json or you can make a test forum in the admin interface. 2018-12-16 17-42-26 PST Martin Owens Good for me too! 2018-11-26 13-00-27 PST Martin Owens Don't worry, that's new. Not a problem 2018-11-27 13-07-12 PST Martin Owens It speaks to my lack of confidence with css stuff. I want to stick to my python 2018-12-09 12-32-06 PST Martin Owens A new version? 2018-11-26 11-52-00 PST Martin Owens I merge to `master`, test locally, I merge `master` to `live` using the script `utils/to_live`. Then I log into inkscape.org and run the deployment script. 2018-11-18 14-54-54 PST Martin Owens You running the live server's update command? 2018-11-28 16-33-34 PST Martin Owens No, but it's a good idea 2020-07-12 16-29-30 PDT Martin Owens 5 more weeks 😅 2018-11-23 10-26-05 PST Martin Owens That's so awesome. 2018-11-29 13-51-43 PST Martin Owens I keep on hating my ignorance on it too. 2018-11-29 15-10-16 PST Martin Owens Lol no I was on a bike in the cold Boston wind 2018-11-23 19-35-48 PST Martin Owens yes 2018-11-29 14-00-10 PST Martin Owens Do you have the block super variable in details? 2018-11-26 13-10-45 PST Martin Owens No, you add those in the admin interface. 2018-11-20 08-51-55 PST Martin Owens Ah ok 2018-11-23 19-15-50 PST Martin Owens :-) 2020-03-28 14-42-32 PDT Martin Owens Interestingly the Virus Filter and Snorkel both have connectors, but what the 3d printed part /is/ is a pair of connectors aka an adapter. 2018-11-25 17-45-54 PST Martin Owens The Emoji we have is a whole collection of them from the open source emoji project, pngs 2018-11-18 15-39-11 PST Martin Owens OK 2018-11-23 15-07-22 PST Martin Owens Slavic vs. Germanic? 2018-11-17 16-35-09 PST Martin Owens attachments accept svg 2018-11-29 14-05-25 PST Martin Owens They are both very useful and different tools 2018-11-27 15-40-17 PST Martin Owens So check resources/templates 2018-11-26 12-49-34 PST Martin Owens The admin would be the easiest, you should be able to log in as admin 123456 2018-12-09 16-25-05 PST Martin Owens The teams pages, we have a debate about if translations are a useful thing to have or if they would actually be a problem/ 2020-07-04 15-44-31 PDT Martin Owens Yay 2018-11-29 14-01-17 PST Martin Owens That means this template is based on this named template. 2018-11-27 15-41-25 PST Martin Owens It should indicate that it's only used for comments. 2018-11-17 16-16-03 PST Martin Owens For example I haven't written the comment editing feature yet, but I put the icon in so I know what it'll look like. 2018-11-26 11-52-58 PST Martin Owens No, others like Maren or yourself can do the merging parts, people like bryce can run the deployment script. 2020-03-28 14-48-17 PDT Martin Owens Good luck and thanks for your work on this topic. 2020-09-25 13-23-54 PDT Martin Owens OK I've read it. 2018-11-17 16-19-49 PST Martin Owens Somethings have to be done ;-) plus I've been asking around to see if people can lend a hand. 2018-11-17 16-22-22 PST Martin Owens Sure, your help would be really freaking cool. https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/tree/forums3 2018-11-26 12-27-50 PST Martin Owens Did it install things? 2018-11-26 13-10-53 PST Martin Owens you can save one from the live site if you want. 2018-11-26 12-56-07 PST Martin Owens And you can do a git pull to make sure you are up to date with master 2018-11-26 11-53-28 PST Martin Owens Do you want me to work on a package to get the website working for you locally? 2018-11-23 19-31-07 PST Martin Owens With or without your changes/ 2018-11-25 18-41-06 PST Martin Owens That's a good idea. I'll try and put together a list of combinations. 2020-07-12 16-30-35 PDT Martin Owens Let me know what the vote is you need and I'll make sure Bryce gets it before the next meeting. 2018-11-30 18-25-45 PST Martin Owens Make up a variable, and add to body tag, I can add code to put it in. 2018-11-26 12-55-36 PST Martin Owens OK, does the quota say you have zero space? 2018-11-27 16-01-17 PST Martin Owens Not two galleries. I noticed the issue with the comments. Not sure how that happened. Don't worry about the gallery for now. We will fix that up, I'm already thinking that it should be more like the forums. 2018-12-09 13-12-23 PST Martin Owens CSS can't be added to the text block itself, but it's possible to commit it to inkscape-web as some extra styles. 2020-07-13 13-14-10 PDT Martin Owens I think yes, chat with Bryce here on rocket chat. No need to take anything private, we have an important decision yo make about how to talk to the SFC about fundraising, (although my gut feeling is that you won't like how the sfcs structure precludes a lot of dynamic updates) it's worth having this discussion. It might also be easier if you were on the board, as the SFC likes to talk to the board rather than anyone else. Is this something you'd be interested in? 2018-11-27 16-09-46 PST Martin Owens The square photo is probably an error since they're supposed to look kinda similar. But it's up to you since you wanted it to also look distinctive. 2018-11-28 15-55-09 PST Martin Owens OK I just comitted my work 2018-11-27 13-46-17 PST Martin Owens I love the fact that Maren quietly went in and changed the tiger emoji I put on her user to an octopus without ever saying anything (or being told how to do it) ;-) 2018-11-23 19-34-52 PST Martin Owens emoji.gif (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/BZWNnfeLAKetJN8ix/emoji.gif) 2020-09-25 13-44-15 PDT Martin Owens If you were the leader of the inkscape project. What would you do? (this might be impossible to answer). 2018-11-17 15-59-43 PST Martin Owens Can you screenshot for me? 2018-11-20 09-03-13 PST Martin Owens Great 2018-12-05 08-09-07 PST Martin Owens I did a quick fix for the issue. I've pushed everything we've worked on live. 2020-09-25 13-29-45 PDT Martin Owens Sorry I mean "Had poor results, but then pushed through the problem and tried to ignore the issue" 2018-12-01 09-12-40 PST Martin Owens pushing change now 2018-11-27 11-38-24 PST Martin Owens That was quite a bastard tbh, and something no one will every really see ;-) 2018-11-25 18-12-44 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2018-11-25 21-10-10.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/KTxcBCvWky6BT7azS/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2018-11-18 15-21-03 PST Martin Owens I'm testing the init locally, it all seems to be working here from a fresh checkout without any errors 2018-12-01 09-46-15 PST Martin Owens Did you do git pull? 2018-11-26 12-03-45 PST Martin Owens Those are for ubuntu 17.10, the page is a bit higgldy 2020-09-25 14-36-13 PDT Martin Owens Turns out it up and dropped dead on me. 2020-08-11 06-57-37 PDT Martin Owens Would you stand for a board position if we held an election? 2018-11-26 11-59-23 PST Martin Owens You're on Fedora 16? 2018-11-17 16-35-32 PST Martin Owens emote button is for other users to add thumbs up 2018-11-23 19-29-27 PST Martin Owens topic_list.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/evDRvpYrJb7JyzvnQ/topic_list.zip) 2018-11-17 16-27-19 PST Martin Owens I trust your judgement on the whole thing, anything you want to have a poke at, the search (make sure to run `manage update_index` to ppoulate search after making comments/threads) some of it doesn't work or doesn't work well. So be forgiving, but keep an eye on how you think we could make it better. 2020-09-25 14-00-15 PDT Martin Owens This is a hollow project in a low of ways. 2018-11-26 12-12-06 PST Martin Owens Great! way ahead of me! 2018-12-14 09-44-48 PST Martin Owens He said he's going to start from zero, so the previous methods may not apply. 2018-11-26 13-08-32 PST Martin Owens In the admin? 2018-11-23 19-51-26 PST Martin Owens Not all comment threads are plain old topic threads. (and you can see if this is a problem later or not, maybe not) 2018-11-17 16-49-07 PST Martin Owens Thanks prkos! Good night! 2019-02-01 00-27-10 PST Martin Owens There's one fix to the ckeditor.js, the emoji plugin, CORs breaks the icons.svg, so I force it to use icons.png instead. 2019-01-31 23-26-18 PST Martin Owens No, not sure where it's gone. Maybe the license file. 2018-11-27 16-42-49 PST Martin Owens Yes, maybe your `inkscape/local_settings.py` needs to be deleted. 2018-11-18 15-35-24 PST Martin Owens :-P 2018-11-26 12-00-45 PST Martin Owens You need to use the PPA 2018-11-20 08-41-40 PST Martin Owens I'd like to schedule a release of the new forums software. I'd love to get your changes in before an announcement, do you think you'd be ready to share by the end of this week? 2020-09-25 13-21-51 PDT Martin Owens :laughing: 2018-11-17 16-19-06 PST Martin Owens But it wasn't good enough for brynn, maren and etc, and we had concerns about moving people over to something that would be slow. 2020-09-25 14-26-46 PDT Martin Owens It is good that the dev team is actually meeting every 8 days now, it's actually helping things. 2018-11-17 16-15-33 PST Martin Owens This example may be expanded with `ideas` for complexities we don't yet have, if you want me to write new features. 2018-11-20 07-05-32 PST Martin Owens I was just looking at another design similar to ours for forums, they have little green balls next to username to indicate a user is online. I can add in some js to add this feature in if your design has a spot for it. 2020-03-28 14-35-09 PDT Martin Owens Do you colour code or italisize or bolden nouns such as "vent valve protection" so reuse of the noun can be seen clearly? 2018-11-28 14-56-03 PST Martin Owens I'm not sure what object output is in your comment 2018-11-18 14-59-40 PST Martin Owens It does that. 2018-11-17 16-04-23 PST Martin Owens Oh and the big `1` should be an emoji, it looks like this 2018-11-18 15-33-57 PST Martin Owens Is this computer your main computer or is it a virtual machine? 2018-11-28 14-28-41 PST Martin Owens block tags must have endblock tags 2018-11-17 16-13-11 PST Martin Owens oh? 2018-11-27 16-45-33 PST Martin Owens you can ignore that 2019-01-31 10-56-58 PST Martin Owens You can replace it, there's a group of plugins, it might be the lookup plugin that's making it slower. 2018-11-18 15-32-15 PST Martin Owens No, that sounds good 2018-11-26 12-31-07 PST Martin Owens Then `Ctrl` + `D` 2018-11-20 08-57-44 PST Martin Owens The focus is to add the features needed and present it as complete. 2020-09-25 14-43-35 PDT Martin Owens With isn't unreasonable. 2018-12-02 17-52-26 PST Martin Owens I've pushed changes, new side panel buttons. Subscriptions marked in topic lists. 2018-11-26 13-10-05 PST Martin Owens The error is because you don't have an icon set for your forum 2018-11-20 09-00-53 PST Martin Owens Last time I invited brynn to help, she put the breaks on the whole project with uncertainty. Didn't want me to work on something that wasn't certain to be used. 2019-02-01 00-27-26 PST Martin Owens There's a custom plugin for blockquoting 2020-09-25 13-50-36 PDT Martin Owens You would have a skill level indicator about different things? 2018-11-18 15-18-17 PST Martin Owens Ah everything got upgraded to python3 django 1.11, there's lots of upgrades 2020-09-25 14-53-15 PDT Martin Owens You saved school for the end. :-D 2018-11-23 14-56-37 PST Martin Owens comment page or other pages or all pages 2018-11-17 16-30-56 PST Martin Owens not yet, butI'm thinking about making something 2018-11-23 15-05-14 PST Martin Owens Nouns can't be verbed in Croation? 2018-11-27 13-48-38 PST Martin Owens So you can edit the issue description and document any todos you have. 2018-12-02 09-51-27 PST Martin Owens No that's enlightened me, in terms of why they exist, and why people keep them around. 2018-11-17 16-17-46 PST Martin Owens Old style is here: http://inkscape.org/forums/ 2018-11-23 18-59-29 PST Martin Owens Now deleted 2018-11-23 19-20-58 PST Martin Owens sure 2018-11-27 11-52-19 PST Martin Owens I asked Jabier, but it turns out forums didn't interest him, he was interested in fixing the menus. Which I helped coach him on doing. 2020-09-25 01-56-54 PDT Martin Owens I also feel like I've failed you personally. A lot of the people I've brought into the project, randomly and so forth, and I always feel a sense of duty to all the people who I've tried to help to get comfortable and find their place. 2020-09-25 01-57-17 PDT Martin Owens Are you able to share where you feel the culture has gone wrong? 2020-09-25 13-27-16 PDT Martin Owens I respect you. Your contributions to Inkscape were providing a valuable push in directions we weren't able to before you got involved. Hearing that this voice is no longer available because our culture failed, means that the project has failed it's basic infrastructure. 2020-09-25 13-32-25 PDT Martin Owens Usually disagreement turns to bad faith correspondence. Poor communication perpetuates and the bad relationship continues to grieve the all parties involved. 2020-09-25 14-17-00 PDT Martin Owens There's no glory to be had in this mess. Besides, if it was that he's demand his name at the bottom of the website. 2019-02-01 00-28-31 PST Martin Owens Other custom items are in the template or config.js 2018-11-23 18-50-33 PST Martin Owens Through gitlab? 2018-11-27 16-09-59 PST Martin Owens You may continue to commit there, but I also trust you to commit to master 2018-11-23 19-49-36 PST Martin Owens There is one thing which you're probably not aware of. 2020-09-25 14-05-18 PDT Martin Owens And responses from bryce are always "I will get to that" but never is. 2018-11-18 15-16-10 PST Martin Owens If it's not regenerating, then there's a problem. 2020-09-25 14-03-37 PDT Martin Owens They suck ever spare second of time. 2020-08-11 14-49-20 PDT Martin Owens It's very kind of you to help with the copy. 2018-11-20 08-54-54 PST Martin Owens OK 2018-11-23 19-46-57 PST Martin Owens No problem. I'm here also for support and questions 2020-09-25 14-14-49 PDT Martin Owens (My stupid british understatement getting in the way) 2018-12-16 17-44-11 PST Martin Owens Interesting, reading article now. 2018-11-26 12-30-37 PST Martin Owens Hmm it's trying to use the wrong python... lets try `python3.6 inkscape/manage.py shell` 2018-11-25 18-14-54 PST Martin Owens page.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/PCktADMmSrfonF6Zz/page.zip) 2018-11-23 19-08-42 PST Martin Owens This is what we have 2018-11-27 13-04-28 PST Martin Owens I like that I've used it before and it does a lot for me. 2020-09-25 14-27-19 PDT Martin Owens Video 2018-11-23 15-06-21 PST Martin Owens lol 2020-09-25 13-50-47 PDT Martin Owens (sorry if my questions sound dumb) 2018-11-23 19-09-38 PST Martin Owens Sorry, had to delete that 2018-11-18 14-59-03 PST Martin Owens It looks like your `local_settings.py` is empty, but it could also be some other error that's being masked. 2018-11-27 16-08-58 PST Martin Owens commit and push via cli 2020-09-25 14-29-30 PDT Martin Owens He's updated his twitter profile on my request. 2018-11-27 11-37-14 PST Martin Owens I've added the spam protections already, none of them are really hard, just needs some brain time to get it right. 2020-03-28 14-34-11 PDT Martin Owens Assembly procedure, 2, "flip it" flip what? The membrane or the mask? You could say "Remove and flip the membrane" or "Remove the membrane and flip the mask" 2020-09-25 14-35-36 PDT Martin Owens No, I'm not unhappy with people, or anything anyone is saying. I'm unhappy about the project's community. 2020-09-25 14-08-22 PDT Martin Owens If Bryce could step aside, it's my belief there would be a realignment of leadership overall as people stopped looking at him for answers. 2018-11-26 12-33-10 PST Martin Owens delete it and we should create a new `pythonenv` folder using the python3.6 virtualenv command you used above. 2018-11-23 19-34-20 PST Martin Owens Sorry about that, I wish I had access to your computer, I'm sure I could fix up somethin :-) 2020-09-25 14-29-19 PDT Martin Owens He wasn't, but I kept posting them to him. 2019-01-31 23-53-26 PST Martin Owens Sure, I believe there's three main pieces. ckeditor.js, config.js and then forums/templates/forums/ckeditor.html 2018-11-23 15-00-10 PST Martin Owens I can't spell anonymous ;-) 2020-09-25 14-42-31 PDT Martin Owens Tav was, he's pissed (by tone of voice). Ted wants more of a slow gradual change. 2018-11-27 13-23-32 PST Martin Owens And how complete the list is. 2018-11-23 18-57-47 PST Martin Owens Great. OK so got here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/branches click `New Branch` green button 2018-11-20 08-44-21 PST Martin Owens Great. I've changed a couple of things, I've been trying to be hands off the comment_list template for you. 2020-09-25 14-55-19 PDT Martin Owens What do you think of Maren? 2018-11-23 10-02-29 PST Martin Owens So I want to make sure you have an up to date template, I've pushed changes which add various buttons for moderation and editing. As well as updates to the comment form itself to switch on attachments etc. 2018-11-23 19-01-24 PST Martin Owens Navigate to the template file on the `left` tree view 2018-11-17 16-12-22 PST Martin Owens It's a single thread stream 2018-12-07 10-49-49 PST Martin Owens Does your spreadshirt password end in "YAZ"? 2020-09-25 14-12-17 PDT Martin Owens Fine, but what does being on the board mean? It means I get to attend meetings, and vote. Bryce has said he doesn't want anyone but him posting votes to the mailing list, so we're back to no votes with an MIA leader. 2018-11-27 13-32-27 PST Martin Owens So we're also using EmojiOne, although I believe we're using the last open source version (fork) so we already should have emoji the same as rocket chat. 2020-09-25 14-10-28 PDT Martin Owens Well imagine the board is defunct, the next layer to talk to is the Conservancy. But they are very bad at communication in general and fairy spikey about anything outside of legal. 2018-11-27 11-48-59 PST Martin Owens I use invitations and ask people to do me favours ;-) 2018-11-25 17-39-10 PST Martin Owens You've done a really impressive job with this blind dev. 2018-11-17 16-09-13 PST Martin Owens If you edit the css in forum.css, I'd be super helpful :-D but it's up to you too, (I've got a long list of todos) 2018-11-17 15-58-10 PST Martin Owens Hmm aparently it's just broke for fonts :-( 2018-11-29 20-29-03 PST Martin Owens There's no such thing as a sub-sub-forum. 2020-09-25 13-34-07 PDT Martin Owens Not just, sometimes things go to moderation, often it doesn't. Private communication is the first step, but it can make things worse. 2020-09-25 13-58-25 PDT Martin Owens And even when people try, they are hopelessly outmatched in skill and the results are terrible. 2020-09-25 14-31-17 PDT Martin Owens Being direct 2018-11-26 11-54-01 PST Martin Owens Well, I'd love to get your help on the main pages too ;-) 2018-11-17 16-36-14 PST Martin Owens where the `1` is 2020-09-25 14-02-43 PDT Martin Owens Well that brings me to the board. 2018-11-23 07-46-50 PST Martin Owens How are things going? Either with brynn or with design? 2018-11-27 13-04-05 PST Martin Owens it does take time 2018-11-28 15-43-10 PST Martin Owens If it'll stop me from developing, a branch is a good bet. If it won't stop my work, commit away. 2020-09-25 14-20-06 PDT Martin Owens Alas, such are dreams made of. 2018-11-28 15-43-38 PST Martin Owens wonky is fine 2020-03-28 14-32-59 PDT Martin Owens In context, adapter is the right word 2020-08-11 14-21-56 PDT Martin Owens I had to quickly make my account to accommodate chnolblan :-D what do you think? https://www.patreon.com/doctormo 2018-11-28 15-35-58 PST Martin Owens It is not on narrow screens, just on wide ones 2018-11-23 19-36-36 PST Martin Owens It's attached to the /user/ not the comment. 2020-08-11 07-11-22 PDT Martin Owens But please talk to them and find out what slot you can fit into. 2018-11-17 16-21-32 PST Martin Owens It is on gitlab, but you'd have to be running the website to work with it. 2018-11-27 13-52-06 PST Martin Owens It's possible to do. 2018-11-23 18-59-00 PST Martin Owens So forums3 is now for deletion. 2018-12-01 09-15-10 PST Martin Owens (some of the names don't result in pages) 2018-11-27 16-16-44 PST Martin Owens I want to show comments that are marked as not-public (i.e. not approved by the moderator yet) and is_removed (i.e. moderator hated your comment) so they should appear in the comment list as single lines, the user, an the moderator tools, but no content, emoji etc. 2020-08-11 07-03-45 PDT Martin Owens Because I think we are dying of lack of leadership. And part of that is having people on the board who just aren't doing enough. 2018-11-27 11-58-50 PST Martin Owens I'd say it's probably about even, but I don't know how much work the mobile fixes are. 2018-11-17 07-52-40 PST Martin Owens Are you interested in reviewing the new inkscape forum style? 2018-11-27 13-42-35 PST Martin Owens Some people can do both. 2018-11-27 16-45-05 PST Martin Owens Yes, that's one of mine. Delete your `local_settings.py` file, it should regenerate like a borg module. 2018-11-25 09-16-46 PST Martin Owens None for now, if it's not super easy, ignore IE for now. 2018-11-27 11-43-04 PST Martin Owens How comfortable would you be contacting some of these people instead of doing css work yourself? 2020-09-25 13-34-38 PDT Martin Owens We also talked about the bad leadership in the meeting. We are quite annoyed in the developer team about the lack of leadership in the project. 2018-11-28 14-29-57 PST Martin Owens So for examples, `{% block "css" %}...{% endblock %}` has some default style sheets. But in other templates there will be a "css" block too. That will over-write the base.html css block. 2018-11-28 07-25-05 PST Martin Owens I pushed the changes live 2018-12-09 16-16-04 PST Martin Owens Who's the decider? Ryan? 2018-11-23 18-56-49 PST Martin Owens Or the css? 2018-11-26 11-55-31 PST Martin Owens If you're able to put together a dual boot, you could slide in a tiny up to date os. 2018-11-27 11-57-35 PST Martin Owens If he's interested in helping with UX, it's still a really new app 2018-11-27 11-49-24 PST Martin Owens I asked Frigory to help with css, he said he didn't know anything about css, I appologised for disturbing him. 2018-11-28 15-01-37 PST Martin Owens https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues/273#note_120901973 2018-11-26 13-12-53 PST Martin Owens Each is just an svg file you upload in the admin interface 2018-11-27 12-05-05 PST Martin Owens I havent made one yet 2018-11-25 17-33-21 PST Martin Owens But you've just given me an idea 2020-09-25 14-44-04 PDT Martin Owens No response yet. 2018-11-27 11-37-44 PST Martin Owens Any amount of design support is truely of enormous value though. So if you're up for lending a hand with the templates as I add these things... 2018-11-25 17-38-01 PST Martin Owens The pineapple emoji next to my name appears slightly too low on the vertical align. 2018-12-14 08-24-56 PST Martin Owens Is it possible to selectively merge in some of @jabier's work so we don't loose it? Not sure how much work that is vs. just fixing the same items. 2018-11-23 19-35-09 PST Martin Owens So one selects emoji on the right side and they appear on the left side of the bar. 2020-08-01 14-38-16 PDT Martin Owens Thanks! 2020-09-25 14-19-49 PDT Martin Owens I was honestly looking forward to having someone like you on the board to try and move towards a proactive leadership. 2020-08-11 07-05-01 PDT Martin Owens But then again, the people who would be great on the board. Yourself, Moini, ryan, all shy away from taking a position. So even if we held elections, we might not elect anyone anyway. 2018-11-23 19-52-05 PST Martin Owens This attached one is a gallery item comment thread, where the focus image is at the top and the first /comment/ isn't atually a real comment, it's the description field from the resource upload. 2020-09-25 14-28-26 PDT Martin Owens Frustration, lack of understanding about the specifics in mac, lack of resources, the enormity of the problems on mac. 2018-11-25 17-46-46 PST Martin Owens No, in fact I stripped out fa from some of the html I used to construct the new forum templates. 2020-09-25 14-09-29 PDT Martin Owens Every time I try and take the initiative with the conservancy, I get smacked back. I'm constantly putting a foot wrong with them. 2018-11-20 08-57-50 PST Martin Owens Or at least, fairly complete. 2020-09-25 14-21-57 PDT Martin Owens Not just that, you've schooled my sorry ass this past hour with ideas beyond my skill. 2020-09-25 13-40-26 PDT Martin Owens There are people who interfere in things outside of their role as a problem? 2020-09-25 14-33-19 PDT Martin Owens I've poked a good number of people today. I want to talk with every single person in the project at this rate. 2018-11-20 08-46-47 PST Martin Owens Can you share a sneak preview? :-P 2018-11-17 16-34-48 PST Martin Owens view mode? 2019-01-31 23-23-55 PST Martin Owens If you replace the folder it should work, I thought I was using the latest already. 2018-11-18 14-59-47 PST Martin Owens That's fine 2018-11-26 12-34-35 PST Martin Owens Then reinstall requirements.txt into the pythonenv like we did above. 2018-11-27 13-13-49 PST Martin Owens Sorry, I don't understand. 2018-11-23 18-58-46 PST Martin Owens No, I've merged into master (and live) 2018-11-26 12-28-19 PST Martin Owens Great lets try `./utils/manage shell` 2020-09-25 14-00-08 PDT Martin Owens there's barely a developer team. 2020-03-28 23-01-47 PDT Martin Owens Yes, so long as it's legal, it should be fine. 2020-09-25 14-28-39 PDT Martin Owens But also lack of a feeling of togetherness. 2018-12-02 09-53-39 PST Martin Owens By the way, did you know there's a command to add random users to your local website? `./utils/manage random-users` will download and install random people with random avatars. 2020-09-25 14-02-58 PDT Martin Owens Tell me what you think of my internal desire here: I want bryce out of the project. 2020-08-11 14-24-54 PDT Martin Owens Well not the bad blurb. 2018-11-25 17-15-44 PST Martin Owens Yay! 2018-11-27 16-42-12 PST Martin Owens oh did you run `./utils/manage migrate`? 2018-11-18 15-17-45 PST Martin Owens python3 right? 2018-11-26 13-13-00 PST Martin Owens But I will fix it to be more robust 2018-11-26 12-07-33 PST Martin Owens See if you have `pip3` and what version it is 2018-11-23 15-19-05 PST Martin Owens pronounced cker-niggits! 2020-09-23 21-59-37 PDT Martin Owens What happened? 2018-11-27 16-29-03 PST Martin Owens (and also showing the comments in the comment list, because atm they get removed by the SQL) 2018-11-27 16-42-26 PST Martin Owens Or maybe there's another error related to the xapian work. 2018-11-26 12-17-46 PST Martin Owens but checkout master instead of any branch 2018-11-28 16-35-19 PST Martin Owens Cool! 2018-11-27 13-06-43 PST Martin Owens I used it before 2018-11-28 15-34-54 PST Martin Owens yes 2018-11-30 18-19-41 PST Martin Owens 🤠 2018-11-26 12-11-18 PST Martin Owens Do you have pip3? 2018-11-27 13-08-06 PST Martin Owens very good! 2018-11-23 18-53-14 PST Martin Owens I'm super curious to see a screenshot here if you have it. 2018-11-25 17-38-57 PST Martin Owens What logo/icon should we use for the emote button? I'm concerned it looks too much like an emote now in a similar place... 2020-09-25 13-21-24 PDT Martin Owens Here if you want 2020-08-11 06-57-53 PDT Martin Owens I think you would be good to have on the inside, able to talk to the conservancy directly. 2018-11-18 15-04-43 PST Martin Owens just git checkout without -b 2018-11-28 15-35-31 PST Martin Owens `.comment-header-group` vs. `.comment-text` 2018-12-01 20-17-25 PST Martin Owens Yes we can have it there. 2018-11-30 18-16-41 PST Martin Owens Git merge tool should pop up a three paned meld 2018-11-29 13-56-50 PST Martin Owens Agreed. 2019-01-31 23-24-47 PST Martin Owens Let me see if I can dig up the info file 2018-11-26 12-11-51 PST Martin Owens what version is it? 2018-11-28 14-30-51 PST Martin Owens I see, It's not tied to python, javascript, html or css. It's /just/ a feature of the templates 2018-11-26 12-28-34 PST Martin Owens (I think we had errors at the install step last time) 2020-09-25 14-33-28 PDT Martin Owens I'm deeply unhappy. 2020-09-25 13-58-04 PDT Martin Owens The consensus is that there is no enforcement of the code of conduct. 2018-11-26 13-09-40 PST Martin Owens Ignore that, the forum isn' using the cms anything, it's too slow. 2020-07-12 12-18-27 PDT Martin Owens Bryce is certainly going to be out of sync, as is anyone who wasn't at the specific meetings. Though I feel I made a fair account of myself in so defining multi-page as a candidate for paid development during the discussion. 2020-03-28 14-35-22 PDT Martin Owens My notes here won't be spelled correctly :-D 2019-02-01 00-05-35 PST Martin Owens If you upgrade the ckeditor, test what kind of results you get, I'd like to be using the latest version, but I know how many tweaks it took to get the one we have now. 2018-11-27 13-57-15 PST Martin Owens It's a dream of mine to produce such a django app. At some point 2018-11-27 13-35-52 PST Martin Owens right 2020-09-25 14-24-12 PDT Martin Owens I want it to set direction for the project. Maybe not development direction, but certainly the story of where Inkscape should go. 2018-11-20 08-54-58 PST Martin Owens That sounds very reasonable. 2018-11-20 09-01-04 PST Martin Owens That killed my enthusasm to add the features needed. 2018-12-09 09-54-49 PST Martin Owens Do you hav editing permissions? I can't publish the page https://inkscape.org/teams/?edit 2018-11-28 15-01-18 PST Martin Owens You want a selection of testable comments? 2018-11-26 12-17-22 PST Martin Owens yes build now 2018-11-18 15-43-52 PST Martin Owens ok 2018-12-09 16-20-01 PST Martin Owens Don't worry, if it's better, it's worth committing to. Perfect is for perfect beings. 2020-09-25 13-21-09 PDT Martin Owens Are you available for a chat? 2018-11-18 15-43-56 PST Martin Owens have a good night 2018-11-26 12-11-07 PST Martin Owens But you can catch that error/exception in your python programs to provide quitting support. 2018-11-23 19-55-27 PST Martin Owens makes sense 2018-11-20 08-53-47 PST Martin Owens I should have given you the index and search pages for references. 2018-12-01 09-46-32 PST Martin Owens (I updated the warn output, so that looks like the old code) 2020-09-25 13-30-43 PDT Martin Owens I didn't probe. 2018-11-17 16-04-59 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2018-11-17 19-04-28.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/jBMq4GPgMqcFYjwTT/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2018-11-25 18-00-41 PST Martin Owens yes please, I can send you a fixed page if you want 2018-11-26 12-34-14 PST Martin Owens Then deactivate venv_devopspy and activate pythonenv 2018-11-24 20-32-47 PST Martin Owens If you need any help etc. 2018-11-28 14-27-47 PST Martin Owens in `base.html` we define a `container` block, which then has some default content. But later templates over-ride this default content with their own blocks. 2020-09-25 13-45-08 PDT Martin Owens I'm not anti business 2018-11-17 16-18-33 PST Martin Owens Last year. 2018-11-23 19-10-22 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2018-11-23 22-08-08.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/BZ7oKf5vG7o5gvdku/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2018-11-20 08-51-28 PST Martin Owens Aye, I'm really hoping that I haven't wasted your time on an old design.if so, I'm *so sorry* 2018-11-26 13-09-55 PST Martin Owens So go to https://localhost:8000/admin/ and navigate from there. 2019-02-01 00-05-00 PST Martin Owens We'll need some designs for the profile additions, anything you can help with? 2018-11-26 12-36-21 PST Martin Owens I think it makes a deactivate command, so `deactivate` 2018-11-28 15-12-21 PST Martin Owens I have the emoji in the editor now. 2018-11-23 19-00-04 PST Martin Owens Once the branch is created, find the button on the left that says `Web IDE` 2018-12-01 09-14-13 PST Martin Owens These names are a fixed list, which is contained in `forums/urls.py` each `name="something"` is a url name and a page. 2018-11-27 13-34-34 PST Martin Owens If there is a design. 2018-11-18 14-58-43 PST Martin Owens I've just pushed a small fix 2018-11-17 16-05-13 PST Martin Owens I like your big text test 2018-11-18 15-39-13 PST Martin Owens Thanks! 2020-09-25 14-13-36 PDT Martin Owens To do something that others will disapprove of. 2020-09-25 14-33-45 PDT Martin Owens But, this discussion has made me feel like there are things that can be moved. 2018-11-28 15-01-28 PST Martin Owens No wait ;-) 2018-11-20 08-59-38 PST Martin Owens If you think it's time to invite her into the process, I can do that. 2018-11-27 16-28-40 PST Martin Owens It's not quite testable yet though, because I have to add the buttons for moderating and hiding instead of deleting comments. 2018-11-23 15-03-36 PST Martin Owens From IBM: **Verb** /noun/ - As in, there is no noun that can't be verbed. 2018-11-17 15-51-47 PST Martin Owens You are using firefox right 2018-11-18 15-17-08 PST Martin Owens The SECRET_KEY is in the local_settings.py 2018-11-17 15-46-29 PST Martin Owens I will attach some html pages saved into a zip file, review the look of the think and seeif you can think up improvements. It's using bootstrap. 2018-11-27 16-04-43 PST Martin Owens right, my bad 2018-11-20 08-52-49 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2018-11-20 11-52-13.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/9NhYzjaPmJYSAevJX/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2018-11-25 17-36-31 PST Martin Owens thanks, I will try and get it on live for you now, but it's queued behind these menu changes 2020-09-25 14-19-01 PDT Martin Owens But I think you have a better idea on the kind of angle to take any such talk. 2020-09-25 14-01-58 PDT Martin Owens When I say this is important, I don't mean vectors. 2018-11-26 11-59-04 PST Martin Owens There's a program called the USB disk creator, it's existed for years too, download the iso and grab a spare usb stick. Should be possible. 2018-11-27 13-37-38 PST Martin Owens Do you think the brazillian guy would add that for us? 2018-11-26 12-07-57 PST Martin Owens `Ctrl` + `D` 2020-03-28 14-19-15 PDT Martin Owens Link is in croation :-D 2018-11-18 14-52-07 PST Martin Owens Do you have your ssh key on this computer? 2018-12-05 08-09-11 PST Martin Owens Thanks for all your help! 2018-11-27 13-10-25 PST Martin Owens if it's left to me, we will fail there 2018-12-07 10-52-55 PST Martin Owens No, you press Login and the button goes away but nothing happens. 2018-11-27 16-27-48 PST Martin Owens Yes, I have to add `{% if comment.is_public and not comment.is_removed %}... do what we do now ... {% else %} ... do some html that shows something {% endif %}` 2020-09-25 13-41-36 PDT Martin Owens Say if Adam creates a design, and Patrick pops in to slag his design off (negatively critique it) that would be a developer role commenting aggressively on a ux channel. (this is only an example) 2018-11-17 16-21-07 PST Martin Owens Home - Inkscape Forum.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/S2g7B8vijkNWiG5X8/Home%20-%20Inkscape…) 2018-11-23 19-34-28 PST Martin Owens Here is the what the emoji does 2018-11-26 13-09-04 PST Martin Owens Did it move? 2020-09-25 10-26-01 PDT Martin Owens I'm not surprised by what you're saying when it comes to women in this project and in other projects. 2018-11-25 17-36-38 PST Martin Owens It's looking really nice. 2020-08-11 07-13-59 PDT Martin Owens So happy you're working with us. We need your fortitude :hearts: 2020-09-25 14-44-38 PDT Martin Owens Chat only 2018-11-18 15-11-14 PST Martin Owens Ok try now 2018-11-25 09-10-32 PST Martin Owens Ah I've never used vw units, but this makes sense. 2018-11-23 19-21-02 PST Martin Owens I will have to make some 2018-11-25 17-39-29 PST Martin Owens Agreed. 2018-11-27 11-38-10 PST Martin Owens the hard bit last night was adding a whole new full text search indexer just from forum posts so they could be in-sync all the time. 2020-08-11 07-06-16 PDT Martin Owens It's different when it comes to money though. You must see being hands off and trying to do fundraising is going to be much harder. 2018-12-09 16-26-29 PST Martin Owens Indeed 2018-11-27 13-12-48 PST Martin Owens I think it's already good! We want great :-P 2018-12-02 09-30-04 PST Martin Owens That's a good point. :-) 2018-12-02 17-53-02 PST Martin Owens One of the new changes is there is now two different views on comments, `comment_thread.html` which is a list of bubbly comments in one topic. 2018-11-17 16-01-56 PST Martin Owens Yeah I checked the CKEditor license, it's fine. The upsteam author doesn't know how to header the files. 2020-03-28 14-20-04 PDT Martin Owens An adapter is something that changes one format into another. So for example an EU plug socket into a UK plug is an electrical socket adapter. 2018-11-25 09-19-08 PST Martin Owens Yes, some testing, I was hoping the people who I had posted the link to would post things to it and test it a bit. 2018-11-18 15-12-44 PST Martin Owens Yikes, every error so far is complaining that local_settings.py is empty 2018-11-27 11-51-47 PST Martin Owens I asked Michele too, but she wasn't confident, so I got her to help do a bit of research instead. 2018-11-26 12-22-07 PST Martin Owens Ah we need to install python3.6-dev as well as python3.6 2018-11-23 19-00-59 PST Martin Owens lol, my fault 2018-11-25 17-33-08 PST Martin Owens Ah yea, that but is a bit... er hard to solve ;-) 2018-11-17 16-17-33 PST Martin Owens There was, I replaced it, I thought I could do a better job. 2018-11-23 18-51-16 PST Martin Owens For this task where you know you can't test it. 2018-11-18 15-20-35 PST Martin Owens you can move your directory aside if you're worried 2020-03-28 14-36-12 PDT Martin Owens adjacent can just be "next to" 2018-11-23 19-12-29 PST Martin Owens I can give you a datetime formatter without the time tag 2018-11-23 17-46-18 PST Martin Owens Live for testing: https://inkscape.org/forums/ 2018-11-23 19-31-25 PST Martin Owens Ah sorry I got you the wrong page? 2018-11-23 18-50-40 PST Martin Owens Interesting 2018-11-18 15-33-14 PST Martin Owens What OS are you on? 2020-08-11 07-09-49 PDT Martin Owens I'm trying to improve the communication by having you able to talk to Karen more often, but putting you on the board. lol ;-) 2020-08-11 07-03-07 PDT Martin Owens As a serious question: do you think bryce is doing enough for the project considering his leadership role? 2018-11-28 15-11-15 PST Martin Owens tenor.gif (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/26vWJFfQ9CQLQ2b87/tenor.gif) 2018-11-18 15-19-28 PST Martin Owens you should delete it and do a fresh checkout, just ot make sure it's clean.\ 2020-07-12 12-16-08 PDT Martin Owens Hi prkos, it looks like I've said some wrong things. This is not intentional. 2018-11-25 18-12-43 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2018-11-25 21-10-01.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/PZuDYkhRdEWDHTLdG/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2018-11-17 15-55-12 PST Martin Owens Let me get you the setting to turn off CORs for local files so you can see it properly 2020-09-25 14-03-32 PDT Martin Owens No, he works for Canonical, I know what that means, I've worked for them. 2020-09-25 14-12-52 PDT Martin Owens So I can talk endlessly about paid development, or new rules or anything, but nothing happens because I'll have to transgress to post a vote. 2018-11-27 13-48-46 PST Martin Owens Give the issue a bit of scope for yourself. 2018-11-17 16-25-20 PST Martin Owens the update command isn't needed, init should do the work. But let me know if it doesn't. 2018-11-23 19-42-36 PST Martin Owens They are, it must be a hold over from previous html. I think I used to use a button or similar 2020-09-25 14-31-07 PDT Martin Owens Asking board members where they see themselves in the project, and what they want to accomplish. 2018-11-18 15-36-22 PST Martin Owens (It's good information to know the latest inkscape-web doesn't work on Ubuntu 14.04) 2020-03-28 14-35-47 PDT Martin Owens Return the vent valve protection to its initial position -> "back to it's" 2018-11-28 15-13-05 PST Martin Owens lol 2018-11-17 15-50-49 PST Martin Owens Oh just blank? Sorry about that, It looks like this when working. 2020-09-25 14-24-56 PDT Martin Owens Well that's the thing. I want a board that meets the expectation of a community that is looking to it for these answers. 2020-09-25 14-04-53 PDT Martin Owens Because everyone looks up to their mentors, and bryce is the top dog. He's not made it clear to anyone that he's out of the project, so people keep looking up at an empty throne. 2018-11-27 13-08-46 PST Martin Owens client speed, yes 2020-09-25 13-57-50 PDT Martin Owens I'd like to ask about Enforcement more specifically. 2020-03-28 14-38-42 PDT Martin Owens (It's short for "it, his" by the way, as in "every dog has it, his day" -> "every dog has its day") 2018-11-26 12-31-44 PST Martin Owens If that works, it means there's a folder called `pythonenv` in your directory that's not python3.6, maybe it's an old env? 2018-11-29 20-28-48 PST Martin Owens Thanks, I've put the forum name in that space, I hope that's right. 2018-12-09 16-17-00 PST Martin Owens So you are the leader and you're consulting the community for feedback :-) 2020-09-25 14-22-42 PDT Martin Owens I want a board that is at least half non-developer. Maybe even focused on just leadership and administration. 2018-11-27 13-35-09 PST Martin Owens Ah a pop up slide show js? 2020-09-25 15-29-05 PDT Martin Owens Thanks. I'm sure even if your involvement with the project is just super secret passing notes to me, ;-) I sure appreicate your contributions to the project. 2020-09-25 14-31-20 PDT Martin Owens More so 2018-12-02 17-53-39 PST Martin Owens The second `comment_list.html` which uses `comment_table.html` which is a any other list of comments that are in **any** topic. So they also include topic information and aren't bubbly. 2018-11-25 17-32-49 PST Martin Owens Not sure, it should be surrounded by `{% if request.user.is_authenticated %}...{% endif %}` so it only appears to logged in users. 2019-01-31 23-59-43 PST Martin Owens Why no just add forum information to the website profile? 2018-11-27 16-17-00 PST Martin Owens Maybe with some colours and an glyphicon to show their state. 2018-11-23 14-56-27 PST Martin Owens sure 2018-11-18 15-33-36 PST Martin Owens Ah, so a very old python, virtualenv and pip 2018-11-17 16-14-10 PST Martin Owens And because I've been making everything, I need some help. :-D 2020-08-11 07-11-39 PDT Martin Owens My negativity shouldn't effect your progress if you're able to get things moving. 2020-09-25 01-48-17 PDT Martin Owens That worries me deeply prkos. I feel like I've been left in the dark on the issue of a friend who has been driven away while I was distracted. 2018-11-23 18-49-57 PST Martin Owens Are you stuck on the git? 2018-11-24 20-37-38 PST Martin Owens I should work on that, but I'll wait for your fix. It'll guide how I should do it. 2018-11-17 16-18-29 PST Martin Owens There is no upstream, django forum is something I made. 2018-11-17 16-14-39 PST Martin Owens lol 2018-11-17 16-24-57 PST Martin Owens `rm data/development.db` 2018-11-27 13-28-58 PST Martin Owens https://inkscape.org/forums/animation/ 2018-11-27 11-58-06 PST Martin Owens Although production bandwidth is somewhat limited between myself and yourself. So any css is always extra helpful too. 2018-12-01 09-12-18 PST Martin Owens Ah let me double check my commit 2018-11-17 15-50-42 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2018-11-17 18-50-27.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/2YJTvF68aqXg7mQGu/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2020-09-25 13-28-49 PDT Martin Owens Today I asked the developer team in the developer meeting (Big Blue Button) the basic question: Have you had an experence of moderation which was not resolved to your satisfaction. I had three developers come forwards with stories were they had pushed through poor resolutions. 2018-11-26 13-09-17 PST Martin Owens Oh you're looking at the CMS toolbar? 2020-03-28 14-36-46 PDT Martin Owens Some instruction manuals use highlighting of key words to involve a kind of symbology 2018-11-25 17-31-02 PST Martin Owens Emote button appears when use is not logged in. 2018-11-27 16-15-39 PST Martin Owens I have a request 2018-11-25 17-37-28 PST Martin Owens I wish I could get them to say anything ;-) only Chris Rodgers has said it's beautiful and he feels it really invites one to post. 2018-11-23 18-52-55 PST Martin Owens You don't need to create any issues 2018-12-09 16-18-08 PST Martin Owens It's open source, there's a thing in the code about encouraging everyone to take leadership roles. 2018-11-26 12-09-13 PST Martin Owens D means `End of File`, i.e. I've finished sending you text. 2018-11-27 13-46-53 PST Martin Owens So that issue is basically an issue describing what you've already done. 2018-11-24 20-35-54 PST Martin Owens OK. Let me know if there's anything I can do to assist. 2018-11-23 19-08-59 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2018-11-23 22-08-30.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ebqzoiR5W3yo3Msk8/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2020-09-25 14-10-35 PDT Martin Owens No, Bradley 2018-11-28 15-34-18 PST Martin Owens I think the header group needs to be under the comment text subject 2018-11-18 15-34-58 PST Martin Owens Ubuntu 14.04 EOL is April 2019, are you planning on upgrading to 18.04? 2020-09-25 14-05-47 PDT Martin Owens Firstly because bryce is the official contact with the conservancy. 2018-11-28 14-28-21 PST Martin Owens So long as they have the same name, they'll cascade through the template. You'll also see {{ block.super }} which means "include all the default content here" 2018-11-23 14-59-50 PST Martin Owens OK here is a mix of three pages, one is a sticky topic (appears at the top of the forum) that my user is subscribed to with moderation tools. The second is a page with moderation tools that has been locked by a moderator and lastly is the same topic as seen from an annoymouse user. 2018-11-17 16-13-39 PST Martin Owens yes 2018-11-18 15-20-11 PST Martin Owens tails? 2018-11-25 18-14-35 PST Martin Owens trying to send you the zip file now. 2018-11-27 13-27-43 PST Martin Owens Could make one. 2020-09-25 14-15-18 PDT Martin Owens No 2018-11-17 16-22-37 PST Martin Owens Change branch to forum3, delete any old database and init. 2018-11-24 20-36-17 PST Martin Owens Btw, I noticed the forum looks like ass in mobile. Was that something you saw in the css? 2020-09-25 14-07-29 PDT Martin Owens And also because the rest of the board operates as a consensus machine. but think about the dynamic in the board. Marc is dev focused and pretty shy. Tav is quiet and considers himself junior. I'm an agent of chaos, but still very junior, I look up to Tav and Marc. Chris looks up to me. Josh is MIA, bryce is MIA, Ted has been doing some of the admin work to get board meetings running, but not much else. 2018-11-20 09-01-44 PST Martin Owens OK :-) 2018-11-23 18-53-24 PST Martin Owens I'm working on a response to issue #248 2018-11-26 11-57-10 PST Martin Owens There's another option. Create an Ubuntu 18.04 USB stick and boot from that. Save the website to your hard disk to work on it, but use the software in 18.04 2018-11-23 10-03-27 PST Martin Owens You may change the template loop as much as you want, I don't mind. So long as the functionality isn't impacted and that there isn't any more/new SQL database quieries that will slow the pages down. 2018-11-23 15-21-01 PST Martin Owens Not in original saxon or in original proto-danish 2020-09-25 13-27-25 PDT Martin Owens I take this as serious as if the website was down. 2020-09-25 13-30-17 PDT Martin Owens Yes 2018-11-17 15-47-40 PST Martin Owens comment-thread.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/xXkw7xyYfJXJfrkRb/comment-thread.zip) 2020-09-25 13-45-15 PDT Martin Owens I am a business don't forget ;-) 2020-03-28 14-47-02 PDT Martin Owens Right I think that's is. Let me know when you need another round of checks. 2018-11-23 19-38-19 PST Martin Owens I was stuck converting utf-8 while I was dealing with unicode, wasted so much time with the wrong encoding! 2018-11-27 11-51-54 PST Martin Owens I've been kind of shameless in asking for help. 2018-11-27 13-30-44 PST Martin Owens I found that openclipart.org has a pile of svg animations, I stole one. 2018-11-27 11-54-01 PST Martin Owens I agree, I will help any way I can. 2018-11-18 14-55-11 PST Martin Owens Where it tries to get the docs, translations etc. 2018-11-26 12-19-25 PST Martin Owens Sorry for being condescending, you have this well in hand :-) 2020-08-11 07-07-08 PDT Martin Owens If we did an election, I would certainly still invite everyone regardless. ;-) 2018-11-23 19-14-49 PST Martin Owens So if you do what you did up there, you end up with ` [TIME]"> [TIME] ` 2018-11-29 18-46-20 PST Martin Owens It's my bed time, I'll be back tomorrow if you need anything. 2018-11-27 16-10-25 PST Martin Owens I have a plugin for the emojis btw https://ckeditor.com/cke4/addon/emoji 2018-11-18 15-00-10 PST Martin Owens Did my fix help? 2018-11-23 19-06-11 PST Martin Owens You don't have to link me to the file, I can checkout the branch on my command line and test from there 2020-09-24 06-33-20 PDT Martin Owens Hmmm, if this was someone misbehaving, I'd like to know so I can have a think about how we're handling this. 2018-11-17 16-27-44 PST Martin Owens And tell me what you've tried, just in case it should work ;-) 2018-12-05 20-38-48 PST Martin Owens Direct people at me specifically for questions 2018-12-01 09-18-23 PST Martin Owens The icon images come from `forums/fixtures/forums.json` they read in fixed filenames, those filenames aren't committed to git so you won't have them in your local version 2018-11-23 19-01-43 PST Martin Owens Click and paste in or edit the html template in-situe there. 2019-01-31 23-54-08 PST Martin Owens https://inkscape.org/forums/cafe/read-this-before-testing-the-forum/ 2018-11-28 15-03-59 PST Martin Owens Sure, put a fake object into the templates and tell me what bits are fake. 2018-11-27 11-58-27 PST Martin Owens I know there's a bunch of back buttons that need adding 2018-11-23 19-36-56 PST Martin Owens It has a custom title text which is different for every emoji added to a user 2019-01-31 23-24-28 PST Martin Owens I selected a careful set of plugins to go with the editing, so I didn't use the basic set. 2018-11-30 16-49-18 PST Martin Owens I've just pushed a large change for search results 2020-08-11 14-22-57 PDT Martin Owens :-D I was running up to it. 2020-07-12 12-22-01 PDT Martin Owens Branding is fine, I wanted to make it clear about how different teams talk to each other and share responsibilities. If I didn't make it clear that I was picking Examples, then I'm sorry. The intention was not to question the status quo but to investigate how these pieces work together. 2018-11-17 16-13-49 PST Martin Owens We control everything 2018-11-23 19-51-04 PST Martin Owens special_gallery_style.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/cyBdJSHG7K2gHtzFx/special_gallery_sty…) 2018-11-26 11-56-23 PST Martin Owens That'll work though right? 2020-03-28 14-43-47 PDT Martin Owens If you use highlighting, you can do a quick scan and list out all the nouns to see if you've got consistency issues. (different names etc) 2018-12-01 09-43-55 PST Martin Owens OK I've pushed a change to add the icons in, run the command `./utils/manage loaddata forums` to update them. 2018-11-23 19-56-44 PST Martin Owens that can happen b/c javascript converts font to png 2020-09-25 10-27-13 PDT Martin Owens Trying to shift culture and our response to it is hard, I wanted more women to join the board and push the project to be a lot more responsive to issues of abuse. 2018-12-05 20-38-35 PST Martin Owens This looks great. I'll have to generate a list of targets from what we have in the urls.py 2018-11-23 19-10-27 PST Martin Owens That's the right one 2020-03-28 14-40-07 PDT Martin Owens Attach the 3D printed connector for the virus filters to the snorkel connector at the top of the mask. -> Attach "Virus Filter Connector" (use the same noun as in the materials list) to the snorkel connector at the top of the mask 2018-11-23 10-01-23 PST Martin Owens Sorry for the delay in reply, my great aunt was listening to jazz music on youtube :-) 2020-09-25 13-21-47 PDT Martin Owens Yes :-) 2018-11-26 10-46-32 PST Martin Owens Some problems with the gallery pages: https://inkscape.org/forums/gallery/str-logo-2018/ 2018-11-23 19-07-29 PST Martin Owens You can see it in the commit https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/commit/796f2202d7e32597849d4cb9bd1… 2018-11-27 13-31-15 PST Martin Owens Indeed! 2018-11-27 11-48-09 PST Martin Owens Don't want to ask too much of you :-) 2020-09-25 15-10-40 PDT Martin Owens Thanks for your help! I've been busy talking with lots of other people 2020-09-25 14-10-48 PDT Martin Owens The bruiser is defo Bradley. 2020-03-28 14-20-21 PDT Martin Owens Boo, rename it .zip 2018-11-23 15-02-46 PST Martin Owens All the things all the things 2018-11-23 19-19-55 PST Martin Owens Confirmed, time element is fixed. 2018-11-18 15-02-00 PST Martin Owens Ah `git checkout forum3` because you're on master right? 2018-12-09 16-16-40 PST Martin Owens Community isn't allowed to be leader ;-) 2020-09-25 10-24-53 PDT Martin Owens @prkos Did you know that Chris Rodgers is our chief moderator? Was he involved in this issue? 2018-11-23 19-36-28 PST Martin Owens Ah that's added only by administrators, it can mark people as moderators, administrators, competition winners, a gold star for helping, donating to the project... what ever we think up. 2018-11-18 14-49-44 PST Martin Owens Hmm, can you delete `inkscape/local_settings.py`? I'm not sure why it's corrupted. 2018-11-25 17-45-31 PST Martin Owens I'd like to avoid font-awesome for now, if there's any symbols we can use from the basic bootstrap set or maybe one we could make? 2018-11-27 03-02-26 PST Martin Owens I'm deployed your changes. Got a very long list of features from brynn ;-) 2018-11-27 13-02-18 PST Martin Owens I have used bootstrap before 2019-01-31 10-57-41 PST Martin Owens There's a bunch of customisations/fixes. So it's likely if you find the reason, we'd focus on fixing it father than accepting a replacement as we'd loose a bunch of fixes. 2018-12-07 10-51-02 PST Martin Owens Damn spreadshirt and their multiple locations to log in 2018-11-26 12-00-40 PST Martin Owens It is possible to install python 3.6 on 14.04 if you follow this guide: http://devopspy.com/python/install-python-3-6-ubuntu-lts/ 2020-03-28 14-41-18 PDT Martin Owens Attach the virus filter to the 3D printed connector. -> Attach the "Medical filter for viruses" to the Virus Filter Connector (same noun again) 2018-11-25 18-12-44 PST Martin Owens Screenshot from 2018-11-25 21-09-48.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/yxemL4kZM6i3yjqZ2/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2018-11-28 15-55-18 PST Martin Owens Let me know if you pull and it's caused a problem 2018-12-09 12-07-57 PST Martin Owens I deleted it ;-) 2018-11-30 18-21-16 PST Martin Owens Will do 2018-11-28 15-42-47 PST Martin Owens That's right, but it does depend on how broken you think it is. 2020-03-28 14-21-06 PDT Martin Owens connector is fairly ambigious, but is a solid generic term for anything that connects 2020-09-25 14-27-13 PDT Martin Owens More than an hour each time. 2018-11-27 13-27-59 PST Martin Owens No one has noticed that the icon for the animation chat room is animated ;-) 2018-12-07 10-51-48 PST Martin Owens Heh doesn't even work because of adblocker 2018-11-30 18-24-25 PST Martin Owens Can it be hidden, shown, via magic? 2018-12-09 16-18-16 PST Martin Owens I like it. 2018-11-23 18-56-44 PST Martin Owens The html? 2018-11-27 13-35-32 PST Martin Owens That'll be something there shouldn't be a django plugin for, we should just edit the templates to add it. 2018-11-30 18-27-21 PST Martin Owens Will do 2018-11-29 13-43-30 PST Martin Owens Ah OK. We need a set of data. 2018-11-30 18-37-04 PST Martin Owens I added a forums fixture, but would have only run if you ran init utils script. 2018-11-26 13-01-29 PST Martin Owens ... You can take a screenshot and give it to me here. 2018-11-30 18-37-55 PST Martin Owens Oh that's right, I have to add the icon field to the utils script for migrating fixtures. 2018-11-26 12-45-15 PST Martin Owens Great. Now we can runserver 2018-11-25 18-45-44 PST Martin Owens Thanks for being so conscientious. 2018-11-27 15-42-01 PST Martin Owens The website code is shared, only the base HTML template is different. 2018-11-30 18-14-30 PST Martin Owens Don't worry about that, I keep some models with changes to meta data that isn't schema worthy 2018-11-26 12-41-19 PST Martin Owens Init 2018-11-25 18-43-06 PST Martin Owens Yes, old. Not sure why. Seems a bit random. Maybe a bit of JavaScript. 2018-11-26 12-56-44 PST Martin Owens And manage migrate to make sure the db is up to date. 2018-11-27 14-05-29 PST Martin Owens Sure. But it's also something interesting and outside of what django is good at. 2018-11-27 15-40-58 PST Martin Owens It's technically a gallery piece. 2018-11-26 12-47-29 PST Martin Owens Yep, empty 2020-07-04 15-50-36 PDT Martin Owens Thanks! 2018-11-29 13-55-56 PST Martin Owens C++ 2018-11-26 12-43-50 PST Martin Owens It's looking good! 2020-09-25 13-26-04 PDT Martin Owens I don't need to know the event, what happened, who it was with. I believe that you are upset about it and that's enough for me to be deeply concerned. 2018-11-29 13-44-09 PST Martin Owens And we can move to use sass if you want. I don't know the technologies well. 2020-07-13 16-27-40 PDT Martin Owens I will investigate 2018-11-29 18-45-44 PST Martin Owens Ah sorry, no problem. 2018-11-25 18-08-34 PST Martin Owens We got kicked out, putting together a case package. 2018-11-26 10-00-27 PST Martin Owens Not yet. I was thinking of working on your problem. Maybe make a snap or something for the website. 2018-11-23 19-42-45 PST Martin Owens you can remove them 2018-11-29 13-57-01 PST Martin Owens So for now, commit your spacing changes 2018-11-26 13-16-04 PST Martin Owens Keeping the styles? 2018-11-30 18-23-28 PST Martin Owens We currently over ride the sidebar block with empty string. But we could enforce sidebar on all pages to make things consistent if you want. 2020-09-25 14-35-59 PDT Martin Owens I presumed vectors went quiet because it was summer and people got busy. 2018-11-27 16-11-45 PST Martin Owens I haven't added it in yet, but it's there ready for me :-) 2020-09-25 14-18-45 PDT Martin Owens I've tried, last december when the release was looking like it was going nowhere I pulled him up and had a chat. But it was defensive and evasive. 2018-11-29 14-05-02 PST Martin Owens Yes, include means add this other template here. Extends means add myself into that other template over there 2018-11-27 13-02-37 PST Martin Owens your mobile work was good, but not tested forum changed on mobile yet 2018-11-25 18-45-32 PST Martin Owens I tested those. 2018-11-27 13-32-52 PST Martin Owens The forum badges count number of new comments, not changes or threads. 2018-11-27 13-55-45 PST Martin Owens Django templates can induce errors, so care must be taken. 2018-11-29 18-47-04 PST Martin Owens Thanks 2018-11-23 19-37-47 PST Martin Owens Of course! I spent so much time making the emoji javascript work... 2018-11-27 13-26-17 PST Martin Owens Looks like they picked EmojiOne 2018-11-27 13-45-04 PST Martin Owens https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues?label_name%5B%5D=ForumUX 2018-11-27 15-42-50 PST Martin Owens CSS is separate. 2018-11-29 13-48-09 PST Martin Owens It may be something we should consider, we could commit both compiled CSS and sass to git? Or just commit sass? 2020-07-13 16-20-58 PDT Martin Owens We currently only allow developers to vote. Which is shit. 2020-09-25 14-24-31 PDT Martin Owens I can see Vectors trying their best, but without a coherent story from the top, we're making shit up. 2020-09-25 13-36-14 PDT Martin Owens Thank you for taking this time by the way, I recognise this as a gift of time you don't really have to give. But it is important to me so I thank you. 2020-08-11 14-30-43 PDT Martin Owens Well this might explain why I'm more keen on finding a way to make this sustainable. 2018-11-28 16-37-21 PST Martin Owens 😅 2018-11-23 19-04-18 PST Martin Owens Type in a useful commit message 2020-03-28 14-46-34 PDT Martin Owens A link to Isinnova's declaration would be good at the bottom. 2020-09-25 13-46-03 PDT Martin Owens So you would turn Inkscape into a business to centralise things? 2018-11-29 08-08-52 PST Martin Owens Make sure to pull, I've modified the comment-list template to add the moderation item. I haven't quite worked out how the grid should work so it's showing a large gap for each **in moderation** post where it's text would be if it was visible. 2020-07-13 16-20-43 PDT Martin Owens The procedure for the board is that we have one or more open slots, I or someone similar creates an election on the website and all contributors are invited to vote. 2020-07-12 16-29-21 PDT Martin Owens We have plenty more hackfest to do. 2020-08-11 07-10-55 PDT Martin Owens No, I think the conservancy is more available and more open with people on the board. And while it's bad for board members (slow) it seems impossible for non board members. We can't even get them to talk to René about the freekin Apple stuff because he's not 'legally inside the group' 2018-11-26 12-25-03 PST Martin Owens Don't run the update command at the moment, lets take this one step at a time 2018-11-25 17-25-50 PST Martin Owens OK the first problem is that it appears to show me the mobile view when my screen is > 750px, forum.css line 681 says `min-width` it appears to look right when I change this to `max-width` instead 2018-11-29 13-55-27 PST Martin Owens I'm a CSS expert, just not very good at it. 😅 I have programmed CSS support in inkscape itself 2018-11-29 13-45-20 PST Martin Owens We could use this https://pythonhosted.org/scss/ 2018-11-30 18-15-18 PST Martin Owens Sorry about the conflict, thought I was helping. 2018-11-26 12-22-53 PST Martin Owens No, it'll be an apt-get install, the venv doesn't matter. 2018-11-23 19-38-38 PST Martin Owens Comments are always good I think. 2018-11-23 10-28-02 PST Martin Owens Yes 2018-11-30 18-26-06 PST Martin Owens There is :empty pseudo class 2018-11-27 14-37-22 PST Martin Owens Database models. It's a very strong ORM 2018-12-09 17-27-24 PST Martin Owens The alternative is to choose a new framework/template and build the first replacement page. More work, but probably a lot more fun. 2018-11-26 12-09-37 PST Martin Owens No, that's a Linux thing. 2020-08-01 10-24-08 PDT Martin Owens thanks 2020-08-11 07-08-57 PDT Martin Owens Yes, at this point I think the board would block breathing in and out through inaction. 2020-09-25 14-26-06 PDT Martin Owens Devs <- not the people for vision and leadership. lol 2020-09-25 14-35-46 PDT Martin Owens It's health failed and I didn't even notice. 2020-07-13 16-22-38 PDT Martin Owens I understand. 2018-11-30 18-17-39 PST Martin Owens No problem, commit what you have and I'll fix. No problem. 2018-11-26 12-09-29 PST Martin Owens C means Terminate, Z means suspend (sleep) etc. 2018-11-27 13-37-02 PST Martin Owens true 2018-11-29 15-20-06 PST Martin Owens Except if the block is in another block that is in the base. Then you're setting up for a chain of extending templates. 2018-11-28 15-33-58 PST Martin Owens There is an error in the css, it prevents links for being clicked on in the comment text. 2018-11-26 13-15-14 PST Martin Owens Mobile on the thread list 2018-11-26 13-00-49 PST Martin Owens An error... 2018-11-24 20-38-39 PST Martin Owens True 1 "hello world" 2018-11-18 15-33-47 PST Martin Owens your setuptools failed to install django. 2018-11-30 18-30-49 PST Mihaela add another class but meaningful 2018-11-23 15-12-34 PST Mihaela silly English K-N-I-G-H-T-S 2018-11-18 15-44-35 PST Mihaela :nerd: 2020-09-25 14-25-24 PDT Mihaela yes I've often felt ignored when asking for feedback from devs 2018-11-23 10-28-44 PST Mihaela ok ill pull changes, and let you know when I upload my own 2018-11-27 13-46-32 PST Mihaela lol 2018-11-27 15-40-41 PST Mihaela ah outside of forums 2018-11-27 13-29-22 PST Mihaela cutiepie 2018-11-26 12-07-47 PST Mihaela lol how do I get out of it 2018-11-29 18-46-32 PST Mihaela mine too :p 2020-09-25 14-07-46 PDT Mihaela tav junior? hahahaha 2018-11-28 15-36-36 PST Mihaela good catch 2018-11-30 18-24-18 PST Mihaela in a dropdown 2018-11-18 12-57-33 PST Mihaela `$ ./utils/manage runserver
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/utils/../inkscape/manage.py", line 33, in
execute_from_command_line(sys.argv)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", line 354, in execute_from_command_line
utility.execute()
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py", line 303, in execute
settings.INSTALLED_APPS
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 48, in __getattr__
self._setup(name)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 44, in _setup
self._wrapped = Settings(settings_module)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 92, in __init__
mod = importlib.import_module(self.SETTINGS_MODULE)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module
__import__(name)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/inkscape/__init__.py", line 32, in
from django.contrib import admin
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/contrib/admin/__init__.py", line 4, in
from django.contrib.admin.helpers import ACTION_CHECKBOX_NAME
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/contrib/admin/helpers.py", line 8, in
from django.contrib.admin.utils import (
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/contrib/admin/utils.py", line 7, in
from django.contrib.auth import get_permission_codename
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/contrib/auth/__init__.py", line 7, in
from django.middleware.csrf import rotate_token
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/middleware/csrf.py", line 14, in
from django.utils.cache import patch_vary_headers
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/utils/cache.py", line 26, in
from django.core.cache import caches
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/cache/__init__.py", line 34, in
if DEFAULT_CACHE_ALIAS not in settings.CACHES:
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 48, in __getattr__
self._setup(name)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 44, in _setup
self._wrapped = Settings(settings_module)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 92, in __init__
mod = importlib.import_module(self.SETTINGS_MODULE)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module
__import__(name)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/inkscape/settings.py", line 79, in
sys.path.insert(0, os.path.join(PROJECT_PATH, 'libs'))
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/utils/../pythonenv/lib/python2.7/posixpath.py", line 77, in join
elif path == '' or path.endswith('/'):
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'endswith'
` 2018-11-27 13-08-22 PST Mihaela so we need to optimize that too if we get in trouble with speed 2020-08-11 14-26-49 PDT Mihaela jeez 2020-09-25 13-52-21 PDT Mihaela you don't have to read through a lot of business advice articles to find that hiring the most important thing 2018-11-23 10-28-20 PST Mihaela but already thawed off 2018-11-20 08-58-50 PST Mihaela just nice to involve her since it will be her work mostly 2018-11-26 13-15-50 PST Mihaela are we keeping them? 2018-11-23 19-55-35 PST Mihaela when I reload the local file I see the author icon for a second, but then it reverts to a number 2018-11-23 19-11-01 PST Mihaela and I see I did mess up 2018-11-27 13-03-15 PST Mihaela so it takes some time 2018-11-26 11-56-39 PST Mihaela not sure I think fedora 19 is old 2020-08-11 07-00-32 PDT Mihaela for both sides 2018-12-07 10-52-12 PST Mihaela lol 2018-11-24 20-37-07 PST Mihaela I haven't committed any css yet IIRC 2018-11-23 10-23-41 PST Mihaela how long can you give me? 2020-08-11 07-04-19 PDT Mihaela I think he may be stalling because of emotional issues, his baby, history, it was different when it started, now it's changing and it's scary 2018-11-23 08-57-50 PST Mihaela can I also try to move the comment loop? since you used you probably wanted to keep each comment as one 2018-11-17 16-16-17 PST Mihaela I'm a bit out of the loop, I expect brynn to hold the features wishlist 2018-11-27 11-49-16 PST Mihaela yes once you know a few 2020-08-11 07-09-02 PDT Mihaela that's why I'd love to speak to Karen, they earn money from us doing the fundraising ya know? 2020-03-28 14-47-17 PDT Mihaela thank you I will, probably tomorrow 2020-03-28 14-47-30 PDT Mihaela :pizza: :beer: 2020-09-25 13-44-30 PDT Mihaela not at all impossible 2018-11-25 09-20-00 PST Mihaela css included 2018-11-29 18-46-39 PST Mihaela yes tomorrow ;) 2020-08-11 07-14-42 PDT Mihaela you're welcome :hugging: 2018-11-27 13-38-37 PST Mihaela when I hear design/UX I don't think css and html 2018-11-20 08-54-51 PST Mihaela and change course if they dont like 2018-11-27 15-28-47 PST Mihaela there are many containers sharing the same class so when I use it for layout if affects where it shouldn't 2018-11-28 15-34-48 PST Mihaela is that normal comment list page? 2018-12-05 17-27-17 PST Mihaela can you maybe share what the layout cases are, for different roles, admin, mods etc, even just explain in words 2018-11-27 11-37-31 PST Mihaela wow super fast 2018-11-30 18-15-43 PST Mihaela I only changed it a bit 2018-11-28 15-43-38 PST Mihaela it doesn't break anything, just not pretty 2018-12-01 09-15-42 PST Mihaela oh I don't have to I see the forum now new image 2018-11-20 08-50-37 PST Mihaela i only see whats live on website 2020-08-11 07-07-02 PDT Mihaela yup you need to solve the problem of why people don't want it ;) 2018-11-25 17-32-35 PST Mihaela the emoji I select on live site for a post first pile next to one another but after reload only the last one is kept 2018-11-23 19-55-59 PST Mihaela link icons that is 2018-11-28 14-28-04 PST Mihaela so I just mark the code block I want with `block "name"` and it can be reused 2020-09-25 14-09-47 PDT Mihaela what's that mean? 2020-07-04 15-49-41 PDT Mihaela I'm just asking in case some asks there 2018-11-27 13-31-08 PST Mihaela that's what they're there for 2018-11-23 15-05-48 PST Mihaela must invest a new word if you want shenanigans like that 2020-08-11 14-49-33 PDT Mihaela :innocent: 2018-11-25 17-36-51 PST Mihaela let me know what people say 2020-09-25 14-57-25 PDT Mihaela I've seen miracles happen with such thoughtful and resolute decisions and actions but you should probably prepare for a long and uncomfortable period. Some things will be unpleasant surprised but there will be unexpected pleasant ones too! 2018-11-27 13-11-02 PST Mihaela we can test and see how it goes 2018-11-23 19-08-51 PST Mihaela I need to make some more small changes to the html, to group some bit for easy styling 2020-09-25 14-32-43 PDT Mihaela and what they'd like to change if anything 2018-11-26 13-14-45 PST Mihaela yay ok I can work on css now 2018-11-23 19-07-56 PST Mihaela yas! 2018-11-26 12-48-14 PST Mihaela sure json if it's easy 2018-11-27 13-14-00 PST Mihaela the performance 2018-11-27 11-48-44 PST Mihaela what the procedure is to get new people onboard 2018-11-23 19-05-47 PST Mihaela https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/blob/796f2202d7e32597849d4cb9bd1e0… 2018-11-26 12-22-55 PST Mihaela a different shell? 2018-11-26 12-41-59 PST Mihaela Updating Django...
* migrate
WARNING:root:No fastly module installed (skipping)
/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/cms/migrations/0010_migrate_use_structure.py:40: UserWarning: Users not migrated to use_structure permission, please add the permission manually
warnings.warn(u'Users not migrated to use_structure permission, please add the permission manually')
2018-11-29 13-51-37 PST Mihaela I always had to collaborate on pure css when working on projects 2018-11-18 15-09-30 PST Mihaela ```
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/core/cache/__init__.py", line 34, in
if DEFAULT_CACHE_ALIAS not in settings.CACHES:
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 48, in __getattr__
self._setup(name)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 44, in _setup
self._wrapped = Settings(settings_module)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 92, in __init__
mod = importlib.import_module(self.SETTINGS_MODULE)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py", line 37, in import_module
__import__(name)
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/inkscape/settings.py", line 472, in
if name.endswith('_ROOT') and value.startswith(PROJECT_PATH):
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'
``` 2018-11-27 13-07-23 PST Mihaela lol 2020-07-13 16-22-16 PDT Mihaela I don't need any more complications, I have enough on my plate 2018-11-27 13-14-04 PST Mihaela on mobiles 2018-11-18 15-38-59 PST Mihaela I'll open an issue and post screenshots so you can compare on the env 2018-11-23 19-06-50 PST Mihaela maybe that's just on GitHub? 2018-11-27 15-40-42 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-23 15-08-06 PST Mihaela I don't think those categories were named after geo related stuff 2018-11-18 15-01-33 PST Mihaela From gitlab.com:inkscape/inkscape-web
6baa7ef..b202069 basicMenu -> origin/basicMenu
9d377b5..280081a forums3 -> origin/forums3
There is no tracking information for the current branch.
Please specify which branch you want to merge with.
2018-11-29 14-02-43 PST Mihaela this is a bit opposite of what I saw in other places, where a smaller template is called into the larger one 2018-11-17 16-17-39 PST Mihaela lolol 2018-11-23 19-21-03 PST Mihaela so I don't have to edit manually 2018-11-25 18-43-55 PST Mihaela but I kept the classes that made sense 2018-11-18 15-04-39 PST Mihaela sorry I'm completely dumb about branching 2018-11-26 13-09-27 PST Mihaela yes 2020-09-25 13-41-49 PDT Mihaela you can give a person a role, but if that person doesn't understand the problem then it's the wrong person for the role 2018-11-29 18-45-13 PST Mihaela sorry didn't do much, still in meeting with clients 2018-11-27 11-40-35 PST Mihaela but just earlier there was a Brazilian guy in team_UX and just asked for a design issues list 2018-11-26 12-12-38 PST Mihaela source virtualenvs/venv_devopspy/bin/activate
(venv_devopspy) nahmed@localhost:~$ 2018-11-26 13-13-50 PST Mihaela i can see the new styles 2018-11-25 18-43-36 PST Mihaela I haven't changed anything there 2018-11-27 13-52-59 PST Mihaela but they will probably need to change templates as it all goes togehter 2018-11-23 15-04-27 PST Mihaela English specific, no such thing in Croatian 2018-11-23 18-57-40 PST Mihaela you should check the big loop that outputs each comment 2020-09-25 14-52-30 PDT Mihaela If it comes to the actual Board meeting to discuss the changes, come prepared 2018-11-30 18-16-40 PST Mihaela sorry I don't have time for this now 2018-11-23 19-19-22 PST Mihaela I need to reapply the makeup now 2018-11-18 15-38-34 PST Mihaela hopefully you or someone will be able to test that what I've done really is what I intended to 2018-11-27 13-34-27 PST Mihaela first number relating to threads, and the second to comments? 2018-11-17 15-51-10 PST Mihaela but not the link icons 2018-11-26 13-17-40 PST Mihaela yas! 2018-11-20 08-58-13 PST Mihaela as long as youre ok with her saying no? 2018-11-28 14-29-31 PST Mihaela include block "header" and endblock 2019-02-01 00-00-29 PST Mihaela yes add forum to website profile makes the most sense 2018-11-25 18-42-05 PST Mihaela how come 2018-11-27 11-53-16 PST Mihaela that's very useful and will help a lot to pull forward, but it's still footwork 2018-11-27 13-46-15 PST Mihaela explain pls 2018-11-26 12-43-48 PST Mihaela some Error getting 2020-09-25 14-06-18 PDT Mihaela are you all reluctant because it's his baby 2018-12-09 16-16-38 PST Mihaela who ever comments on it and gives feedback 2019-01-31 23-59-15 PST Mihaela maybe we need to have a forum user profile page, when I click on a user it goes to website profile, but there is nothing there about forum post history for examples 2018-11-29 14-00-57 PST Mihaela which goes into which 2018-11-26 12-43-28 PST Mihaela bunch of png 2018-11-27 13-34-50 PST Mihaela also some lib for showing attached images in a modal 2018-11-23 19-56-14 PST Mihaela revert back to numbers 2018-11-26 13-08-46 PST Mihaela yes 2020-07-13 16-22-04 PDT Mihaela If I can do fundraising and contacting SFC without being on the Board then I prefer it that way 2018-11-29 13-46-04 PST Mihaela I commit only css 2018-11-28 15-03-17 PST Mihaela but I can't today 2018-12-07 10-52-29 PST Mihaela spreadshirt doesn't allow you to login if adblocker is on? 2020-09-25 14-00-45 PDT Mihaela wow I didn't see Inkscape devs team so thin but ok. I was talking in general 2018-11-23 19-00-41 PST Mihaela I see one on the right top 2020-08-11 14-22-32 PDT Mihaela what? you didn't even have it? :face_palm: 2018-11-26 12-34-56 PST Mihaela source virtualenvs/venv_devopspy/bin/activate 2018-11-27 11-53-29 PST Mihaela I was thinking more of an onboarding system 2020-09-25 13-29-38 PDT Mihaela Thank you for your words of encouragement, but believing I'm upset isn't such a big deal, even an enemy can admit to that. In these situations the need for the truth to be heard come up, being validated. Because it's clear as day if people don't really understand what's happening there's no chance of changing what they can't see. 2018-11-26 11-54-43 PST Mihaela how hard is it, how long would it take? 2020-09-25 13-30-14 PDT Mihaela wow were those devs men? 2018-11-30 18-19-41 PST Mihaela for better SEO 2020-03-28 14-24-13 PDT Mihaela you can see the photos there, it's a plastic piece, not doing much smart things lol 2020-09-25 13-45-38 PDT Mihaela hehe I hope you get increasing traction too :) 2018-11-27 16-10-39 PST Mihaela awesome! 2018-11-26 12-09-48 PST Mihaela ah lol I only knew about the C 2018-11-29 13-28-22 PST Mihaela I don't have that locally 2018-11-26 13-15-01 PST Mihaela what did you mention you wanted me to work on other than fixes? 2018-12-05 17-26-34 PST Mihaela Hi @all UX Inkscapers! Would you like to help us build the new forum feature on the main website? We'd love some input from you about the forum layout and styling. You can help with your comments or even mockups and designs. That would help the developers to code the visuals into a fast, responsive, and easily maintained code to everyone's benefit :sparkles: You can respond and collaborate on this channel #team_ux, or go deeper with GitLab: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues New issues have to be created tagged with ForumUX label about this part of the project, first we need to define different layout cases (different user roles have more parts in the interface, moderators and admins for example). Feel free to pitch in but also try to keep it meaningful and tidy :) 2018-11-27 12-04-08 PST Mihaela what about sylvain? 2018-11-29 15-12-41 PST Mihaela I had to include the block for the new forumheader into the base.html 2018-11-26 13-16-36 PST Mihaela for the forum threads 2018-11-23 19-03-38 PST Mihaela https://gitlab.com/-/ide/project/inkscape/inkscape-web/blob/forum-styles/-/… 2018-11-23 15-09-22 PST Mihaela maybe sth like this, quick find http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/basiclangstruct.html 2018-11-23 19-26-41 PST Mihaela also there are two parts that relate to emoji in comment footer, but only dropdown is output 2018-11-26 13-10-02 PST Mihaela ah 2018-11-29 15-12-21 PST Mihaela not now ty 2020-07-13 16-22-53 PDT Mihaela I hope 2020-03-28 14-44-36 PDT Mihaela yes good tip 2018-12-09 12-40-30 PST Mihaela yes I put a screenshot in the vectors channel 2018-11-26 11-56-08 PST Mihaela grub too :p 2018-11-25 17-16-17 PST Mihaela sure 2018-11-28 16-32-03 PST Mihaela so now I have the subforum header display above the main forum header 2018-11-25 18-14-16 PST Mihaela need to fix emoji position both author and comment 2018-11-23 18-55-43 PST Mihaela should I email or commit through ui or paste here? 2018-11-27 13-11-25 PST Mihaela maybe it will be good! 2018-12-09 16-26-00 PST Mihaela ok then I don't have to worry so much about changing it 2018-11-26 12-08-06 PST Mihaela ty 2020-08-11 14-23-48 PDT Mihaela your blurb can be improved 2018-11-30 18-36-33 PST Mihaela yes image not loaded 2020-03-28 14-23-18 PDT Mihaela 4. Design of adapter and assembly of respirator.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/RD2imh4EkudJoPqkd/4.%20Design%20of%20…) 2018-11-27 11-39-13 PST Mihaela won't you release all the forum work into django community 2018-11-17 15-53-42 PST Mihaela looks good 2018-11-26 12-49-52 PST Mihaela ok I'll make one there 2018-11-23 10-25-11 PST Mihaela def cmi 2018-11-17 16-28-25 PST Mihaela any quick ways to populate the content and more users? 2018-11-27 13-52-42 PST Mihaela if someone comes up with a different design 2018-11-25 17-59-39 PST Mihaela tomorrow then? 2020-09-25 13-59-35 PDT Mihaela do you mean a developer is being abused by another dev who is considered a star coder? 2018-11-26 12-43-38 PST Mihaela cms page media 2020-09-25 14-09-16 PDT Mihaela such a contrast to what is happening in all other areas of Inkscape 2018-11-20 08-51-32 PST Mihaela yes im only looking at html you zipped and the twig from repo 2018-11-20 09-00-56 PST Mihaela ill review old emails, thrers a number of peeps discussing that 2018-11-26 13-04-29 PST Mihaela like I did before manage migrate 2018-11-26 17-04-53 PST Mihaela need to fly now 2018-12-09 11-38-34 PST Mihaela you've published it now I see it's live 2020-09-25 14-47-48 PDT Mihaela you have to be sure about what you're doing, your state transmits to others, you have to feel how you want them to feel, confident about the changes, that this is the right thing, that it's been long overdue, that it's for the best of the project 2020-09-25 14-19-47 PDT Mihaela evasiveness is solved with directness and putting your foot down 2018-12-09 16-17-11 PST Mihaela lol 2018-11-23 15-21-36 PST Mihaela you call that normal 2018-11-25 17-37-48 PST Mihaela wohooo 2020-08-11 07-06-23 PDT Mihaela Moini as well 2018-12-01 09-08-36 PST Mihaela ERROR:django.server:"GET /forums/ HTTP/1.1" 500 206988 2018-11-26 12-12-35 PST Mihaela but I don't know what to do with this: 2018-11-26 12-01-28 PST Mihaela I already have newer php version and switch between 2020-09-25 14-13-56 PDT Mihaela how do you have to transgress to get things done? 2018-11-25 18-43-29 PST Mihaela js still works on the new style 2018-11-23 19-30-54 PST Mihaela comment list 2018-11-17 16-23-56 PST Mihaela that's my cheatsheet 2018-12-09 16-16-17 PST Mihaela the community I guess lol 2018-11-27 13-46-42 PST Mihaela kids learn 2020-03-28 14-37-04 PDT Mihaela yes that would be useful 2020-09-24 06-21-52 PDT Mihaela You don't know? Something did alright. I don't know how to handle that in an open source project so I just stay away 2018-11-26 11-59-47 PST Mihaela IIRC 2018-11-27 13-35-46 PST Mihaela so you don't have to leave page and go Back just to see the image, and then repeat for each image 2018-11-26 12-30-33 PST Mihaela my os is so old it doesn't understand all that new malarkey :D 2018-11-23 19-01-14 PST Mihaela :frog: 2018-11-24 20-36-08 PST Mihaela will do ty 2018-11-26 11-59-21 PST Mihaela I know about the os on usb 2018-11-23 15-08-11 PST Mihaela more functional names 2018-11-20 08-09-17 PST Mihaela yes if you think its useful 2018-11-20 09-00-24 PST Mihaela zypo prob lol 2018-11-26 11-51-01 PST Mihaela how do changes I do on the forums branch get compiled to the website? 2018-11-29 13-09-08 PST Mihaela I did I'll take a look 2020-09-25 14-39-31 PDT Mihaela if you don't keep up with the times you lose 2018-11-26 12-22-20 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-26 11-53-13 PST Mihaela ok 2020-09-25 14-44-27 PDT Mihaela you sent them 2018-11-23 19-56-07 PST Mihaela emojis disappear 2018-11-25 17-45-54 PST Mihaela ah I didn't know its limited 2020-09-25 14-58-43 PDT Mihaela She is super most invaluable contributor, and no one seems to even notice 2020-07-12 14-20-10 PDT Mihaela I didn't add it to the agenda, I didn't know I could do that :open_mouth: I thought only Board members are allowed. Ok then what can be done with it now? Bryce said he'd contact SFC, was that official?
It didn't feel like anyone corrected Bryce, but I wasn't here all the time so I can't be sure, I was going back and forth between kitchen and here to get dinner. I'm confused about what decisions need a vote and which don't.
I'm sorry if I misunderstood about branding, I hope we're on the same page now. You may say that the Board doesn't rule over many things and things are open, but it holds a lot of weight when you as one of the main contributors and a Board member talk in front of the community. And when you have people who are experts why not involve them? You could have asked me to prepare and explain, or Ryan, even though this is more my area. 2018-11-23 19-37-05 PST Mihaela I need to keep it with the user then 2018-11-23 18-58-00 PST Mihaela and time element attribute datetime 2020-09-25 14-40-20 PDT Mihaela but no one likes a fear monger, so they choose not to believe 2020-09-25 14-02-29 PDT Mihaela if you don't raise an issue on the next Board meeting about the state of Inkscape you're a schmuck :D 2018-11-26 12-28-02 PST Mihaela yup loads 2018-11-25 18-16-56 PST Mihaela if it affects emojis, on mobile... 2020-09-25 13-39-16 PDT Mihaela I'm not unhappy with the private communication that happened in my case. It was detailed, maybe there were some emotions showing through but mostly it was very moderate, detailed and definitely not a knee-jerk response, not on my nor others part. But alas that might be the only positive thing about this. I don't like the result, I don't like being not understood, I don't like people who don't undertstand influence things they shouldn't, I don't like that the project is suffering even when I pulled back.......... 2018-11-25 18-04-38 PST Mihaela I made the image desatureated luminosity 2020-03-28 14-45-50 PDT Mihaela Yes, they do 2018-11-23 19-12-58 PST Mihaela that one just has to be predictably standard 2018-11-26 13-00-38 PST Mihaela when I visit the forum thread I just created before migration I see debug code 2018-11-29 13-12-16 PST Mihaela for example there are declarations that lead with 4 spaces, and some that lead with 2 2018-11-30 18-27-10 PST Mihaela and I need it on the parent containter 2018-11-26 17-05-18 PST Mihaela will do more tomorrow 2020-09-25 14-14-11 PDT Mihaela ah because Bryce asked not to 2018-11-27 13-08-07 PST Mihaela html and css play a small part in there as well 2018-11-23 19-38-36 PST Mihaela lol 2018-11-27 16-01-46 PST Mihaela forums/gallery 2018-11-30 18-29-20 PST Mihaela or any that doesn't have sidebar 2018-11-29 15-11-19 PST Mihaela :wind_blowing_face: 2018-11-28 16-34-47 PST Mihaela on hover 2018-11-20 08-52-22 PST Mihaela ive seen forum list 2018-11-20 08-58-26 PST Mihaela i dont expect she would 2018-11-25 18-41-22 PST Mihaela kewl 2018-11-27 13-07-09 PST Mihaela the concept doesn't change much between version 2018-11-26 11-57-13 PST Mihaela but this is only till xmas holidays 2018-11-17 16-25-43 PST Mihaela ok I'll do that tomorrow and let you know 2018-11-27 13-45-20 PST Mihaela wohoooooo 2018-11-17 16-12-00 PST Mihaela is that for threading? 2018-11-26 12-32-52 PST Mihaela from 7 days ago 2018-11-17 15-58-29 PST Mihaela https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25504851/how-to-enable-cors-on-firefox 2018-11-26 12-28-29 PST Mihaela and many more 2018-11-23 15-09-55 PST Mihaela English is quite analytical, if not isolating. 2020-09-25 13-58-37 PDT Mihaela what skill? 2018-11-26 12-50-49 PST Mihaela only see ------- 2018-11-30 18-27-17 PST Mihaela not on the sidebar 2020-07-04 15-48-35 PDT Mihaela any time frame for 1.1? 2018-12-09 16-22-17 PST Mihaela oh 2018-11-29 14-00-48 PST Mihaela what does that mean 2018-11-26 12-05-34 PST Mihaela so far so good 2018-11-30 18-25-17 PST Mihaela css doesn't work backwards, always cascades downwards 2018-11-29 13-56-03 PST Mihaela oh you do dat as well 2019-01-31 09-25-27 PST Mihaela oy! how was ckeditor implemented in the forum? Can I just swap the folder with a different build? I'm not sure why it's not as responsive on the forum as the examples I see elsewhere 2018-11-28 14-28-47 PST Mihaela yes I noticed 2018-11-29 13-49-28 PST Mihaela so I'm not sure if that would suddenly overcomplicate it 2020-03-28 14-35-02 PDT Mihaela thank you! 2018-12-09 16-20-02 PST Mihaela I also think we also need to do some more changes on the text at the bottom, the buttons, so this isn't yet ready for publishing 2018-11-23 19-37-27 PST Mihaela peeps love colorful content 2018-11-26 13-13-17 PST Mihaela yes icons missing shouldn't crash the whole thing :p 2018-11-25 17-39-32 PST Mihaela ty :) 2020-08-01 10-22-38 PDT Mihaela You mentioned we need to send in the pdf slides in advance? 2018-11-17 15-46-45 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-26 09-13-03 PST Mihaela do you have a list of bugs/requests for the forum thread? 2018-11-25 17-44-06 PST Mihaela but they seem not to be free? 2018-11-26 13-10-32 PST Mihaela that's not in repo? 2018-11-27 15-45-42 PST Mihaela does that change gallery layout? 2018-11-28 15-02-11 PST Mihaela ah so 2018-11-18 14-52-36 PST Mihaela but when I try init or runserver its asking me 2018-11-30 18-22-08 PST Mihaela I need a way to have different layout classes 2018-11-23 19-08-04 PST Mihaela ty 2018-11-20 08-56-51 PST Mihaela whats the consensud abut the new forum 2018-12-01 09-15-02 PST Mihaela do I need to init or update to see the changes 2018-12-09 16-18-07 PST Mihaela do you like that bluish box style? I coded it separately as .infobox so it can be reused on the site for announcements or to highlight paragraphs 2018-11-30 18-27-33 PST Mihaela better 2018-11-28 16-36-13 PST Mihaela yes in some areas 2018-11-25 18-18-33 PST Mihaela I started this one https://inkscape.org/forums/questions/nam-aliquando-posse-recte-fieri/?c=19… 2020-09-25 13-46-44 PDT Mihaela sounds simple 2018-11-25 17-59-32 PST Mihaela I should get to sleep, staying too long again 2018-11-17 16-36-21 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-23 19-41-17 PST Mihaela btw why do you use name attribute on anchor for comment? 2018-11-23 18-57-11 PST Mihaela I have that ready to be tested 2018-11-26 11-58-57 PST Mihaela ah py enviornment 2018-11-23 15-19-48 PST Mihaela you forgot H 2018-11-25 09-18-30 PST Mihaela public reveal? 2018-11-26 13-09-59 PST Mihaela but I don't see any controls 2018-11-17 16-35-21 PST Mihaela you only need them when writing right? 2018-11-27 12-07-24 PST Mihaela how do you like my mobile design changes? 2018-11-28 16-26-45 PST Mihaela there were no problems merging 2018-11-27 16-23-12 PST Mihaela but the content will not be output 2020-08-11 07-09-23 PDT Mihaela They would also profit from our health, I expect it's just a matter of better communication 2018-11-25 17-43-46 PST Mihaela https://fontawesome.com/icons?d=gallery&q=emoji 2018-12-09 09-52-55 PST Mihaela https://inkscape.org/teams/ is blank 2020-09-25 14-32-28 PDT Mihaela have you chatted with other board members about the situation 2018-11-17 16-14-34 PST Mihaela :imp: 2018-11-23 14-56-44 PST Mihaela just comment page 2018-11-17 16-14-03 PST Mihaela :smiling_imp: 2018-11-23 19-31-50 PST Mihaela the topic list isn't in such dire need of styling 2018-11-27 13-38-17 PST Mihaela not sure if he's into that 2018-11-26 12-01-11 PST Mihaela ok that's more like it 2018-11-26 11-51-07 PST Mihaela what are the steps? 2018-11-23 19-30-51 PST Mihaela i'd like the comment thread pls 2018-12-02 09-50-45 PST Mihaela it's a valid suggestion, the dotted outline doesn't always fit with the design. Sorry if It's TMI, I thought it might be useful to share some nuggets I've picked up over the years 2018-11-28 15-35-36 PST Mihaela I thought that was due to some js 2019-01-31 23-52-02 PST Mihaela there is an HTML element that has display:table set, that may be causing the width not to scale down, but I'm not sure if it's coming from the ckeditor or from the website
I can see config.js, that lists everything? 2020-09-25 13-21-46 PDT Mihaela my novel 2018-11-18 15-32-05 PST Mihaela is this problematic? 2018-11-29 15-12-15 PST Mihaela I got the subforum to appear with the main header 2018-11-27 15-28-13 PST Mihaela I need to change some classes 2018-11-29 13-09-26 PST Mihaela BTW I'd like to use Sass on my end to compile CSS from 2018-11-23 15-03-53 PST Mihaela IBM? 2018-11-23 10-25-41 PST Mihaela ill have it ready soon 2020-09-25 14-15-34 PDT Mihaela just glory? 2018-11-18 15-17-27 PST Mihaela Any changes to python updates recently 2018-11-17 16-09-48 PST Mihaela maybe add zebra rows, and make the attachment area more visually like it belong to the post 2020-08-11 07-10-29 PDT Mihaela I'm completely ok with calling myself some fundraising label for Inkscape project and mailing with her directly, CC Bryce, they might both prefer it that way 2018-11-25 09-17-45 PST Mihaela there are ways to make it come close, one or two positions won't be exactly as in modern browsers 2018-11-18 15-06-41 PST Mihaela :face_palm: 2018-12-02 08-31-07 PST Mihaela The outline is there by default on :focus, it's important to have some visual cue for those who navigate using keyboard. We can remove it if we replace it with some other visual cue on :focus I usually style :focus the same as :hover as it's the same intention, decision/choice step before clicking. :active state is the usually really short time after you click. It used to be red links, it gives the cue that the click was successful. 2018-11-17 16-36-15 PST Mihaela nvm I'll see tomorrow 2018-11-28 15-43-18 PST Mihaela we'll I'll need to be going soon and the page layout is wonky 2018-11-25 17-34-58 PST Mihaela I committed the change for the emoji select 2018-11-29 18-46-57 PST Mihaela I'll commit what I have now 2020-03-29 17-55-02 PDT Mihaela https://pandemija.info/respiratoreng/ 2018-11-20 09-01-33 PST Mihaela ok leave her to me, i understand whats happening there 2018-12-01 09-47-12 PST Mihaela got it yay! 2018-11-29 13-49-56 PST Mihaela add the config files to .gitignore 2018-11-26 12-00-00 PST Mihaela vm might be might best option right? 2018-11-27 15-44-28 PST Mihaela im scared to change that template 2018-11-23 15-04-39 PST Mihaela lol that IBM 2018-11-20 08-59-47 PST Mihaela as it always the case :D 2018-11-26 12-26-29 PST Mihaela done 2018-11-20 08-46-57 PST Mihaela i hope you and others lije the design its kinda bubbly 2018-11-25 17-32-48 PST Mihaela that's unrelated to styles btw 2018-11-27 13-30-26 PST Mihaela I haven't animated anything in a long while 2020-08-11 14-26-04 PDT Mihaela how many hours in average do you work on Inkscape 2018-11-26 13-11-56 PST Mihaela do I have those already? 2018-11-26 12-31-19 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-23 18-53-28 PST Mihaela not yet ready 2020-09-25 14-03-17 PDT Mihaela or to get him to come back? 2020-09-25 14-58-17 PDT Mihaela Something happened this year and she changed, I think she experienced something bad 2018-11-23 19-06-41 PST Mihaela I'm trying to find the diff view 2018-11-23 18-56-52 PST Mihaela html 2018-11-18 14-51-53 PST Mihaela why is it asking me for gitlab username and pass? 2018-11-26 13-16-24 PST Mihaela yes the colors and shapes 2018-11-18 15-39-23 PST Mihaela np, tomorrow hopefully 2020-08-11 07-04-41 PDT Mihaela but you've all clearly stated that the Board doesn't do much :D 2020-09-25 15-07-10 PDT Mihaela :nerd: 2020-09-25 14-45-15 PDT Mihaela most people are followers, even when they appear forceful and confident and opinionated 2018-11-23 15-07-18 PST Mihaela that's why it's hard to learn some parts for us, sentence construction and phrasing 2020-09-25 13-57-28 PDT Mihaela that would show people they are safe and it's not just empty promises 2018-11-17 15-51-03 PST Mihaela ah I do see them in the popup 2018-11-27 11-53-52 PST Mihaela just like in programming :p 2020-09-25 14-06-00 PDT Mihaela ah yes old money lol 2018-11-27 12-03-15 PST Mihaela js I think it might be neccesary 2018-11-20 08-57-04 PST Mihaela is she onboard with django 2018-11-29 13-49-04 PST Mihaela and I have that installed through npm 2020-03-28 14-25-27 PDT Mihaela BTW I expect the sentences in the assembly list need clarifying, conditional clauses 2018-11-27 16-45-07 PST Mihaela Your models have changes that are not yet reflected in a migration, and so won't be applied.
Run 'manage.py makemigrations' to make new migrations, and then re-run 'manage.py migrate' to apply them.
2018-11-28 15-34-21 PST Mihaela it can happen with floats 2018-11-28 15-02-44 PST Mihaela for example the breadcrumbs for forum boards 2018-11-26 12-24-39 PST Mihaela Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/utils/../inkscape/manage.py", line 32, in
from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line
ImportError: No module named 'django'
2018-11-27 11-58-25 PST Mihaela so we now need a lot more css than design help? 2020-09-25 14-11-21 PDT Mihaela but why? you're on the Board? 2020-03-28 14-54-36 PDT Mihaela they could have written it more clearly but I guess they have other worries now than setting up a licence page 2018-11-23 19-47-31 PST Mihaela ty 2018-11-18 15-03-42 PST Mihaela git checkout -b forum3 2020-09-25 13-21-27 PDT Mihaela sure 2018-11-25 09-15-25 PST Mihaela hehe it's what I'm dealing with now, grid units 2020-09-25 13-40-18 PDT Mihaela by that last thing I mean they didn't continue without me, everything just stopped 2020-03-28 14-34-01 PDT Mihaela thank you, I'll change it back 2019-02-01 00-00-10 PST Mihaela I'll have to go through those posts and test again, but maybe with a new ckeditor? the new one has better responsivness on mobiles, I think we're using version 4? 2018-11-23 19-10-54 PST Mihaela yes pls 2018-11-25 09-16-05 PST Mihaela I'm switching time zones so I was very tired and had to take a nap but I'm better now and I hope to have something ready for you 2020-09-25 14-15-15 PDT Mihaela he's not getting paid? 2018-11-23 15-12-10 PST Mihaela I think it might be easier to learn English than Croatian, speak anyway, only your writing messes it up 2018-11-27 16-01-50 PST Mihaela I'm fixing that now 2018-11-20 08-53-13 PST Mihaela but if the design is acceptable by people then it doesnt take much to apply the same visual logic to other pages 2018-11-26 12-37-12 PST Mihaela and now 2018-11-27 16-18-11 PST Mihaela if they're visible to admins only why no content? 2018-11-30 18-00-28 PST Mihaela how do I manually? 2018-11-17 15-59-06 PST Mihaela I still see the placement, they're not as pretty but I can imagine it :) 2018-12-01 09-14-27 PST Mihaela kewl! 2018-11-17 15-52-17 PST Mihaela ah ok 2018-11-26 12-22-38 PST Mihaela do I first exit this (venv_devopspy) 2018-11-23 19-43-16 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-26 11-52-18 PST Mihaela uf 2018-11-29 15-11-58 PST Mihaela I think i figured out the template 2018-11-23 10-27-02 PST Mihaela it's been crazy this week family obligations and some clients have thankgiving needs lol 2018-11-26 12-20-54 PST Mihaela Updating Django...
* migrate
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/utils/../inkscape/manage.py", line 32, in
from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line
ImportError: No module named 'django'
* DONE
2018-11-23 18-52-26 PST Mihaela just the html 2018-11-25 18-16-30 PST Mihaela but I'll still have to test various combinations 2020-08-11 07-07-21 PDT Mihaela but not necessarily, things can be done without being on the Board right? 2018-11-26 13-15-46 PST Mihaela any more feedback about the styles? 2018-11-18 15-16-51 PST Mihaela ```
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 113, in __init__
raise ImproperlyConfigured("The SECRET_KEY setting must not be empty.")
django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: The SECRET_KEY setting must not be empty.
``` 2020-09-25 14-23-02 PDT Mihaela kewl, represent all parts of the project 2018-11-17 16-14-30 PST Mihaela sure I'd love to effect some control there 2018-11-20 08-51-52 PST Mihaela new html from repo 2020-07-13 16-21-21 PDT Mihaela yup we're aware of the custom integrations, but have no solution yet, we don't even have a nice list of features of what would have to be recreated, so this is all up in the air 2018-12-01 09-19-11 PST Mihaela ah ok 2018-11-24 20-35-38 PST Mihaela if I don't get it ready I'll come back to it later today 2018-11-26 12-04-24 PST Mihaela I always learn new words from you 2018-11-28 15-02-32 PST Mihaela but I don't know how to print out all the things we need in forum header 2018-11-27 17-25-08 PST Mihaela I pushed to master, see ya tomorrow 2020-09-25 13-49-36 PDT Mihaela so that can give an impression that there's something wrong there, but what is wrong is that people are irrational and they don't learn about the subject before jumping into it 2018-11-27 11-40-10 PST Mihaela I'll do whatever I can of course 2018-11-26 12-15-56 PST Mihaela now it's forum-styles 2018-11-18 15-13-22 PST Mihaela ```
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 113, in __init__
raise ImproperlyConfigured("The SECRET_KEY setting must not be empty.")
django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: The SECRET_KEY setting must not be empty.
``` 2018-11-18 15-01-50 PST Mihaela I had forum3 branch checkout 2018-11-18 15-37-58 PST Mihaela I won't be making big chnages 2018-11-27 15-49-41 PST Mihaela I wasn't involved a lot in the past months so I don't know what was happening, why two galleries? 2018-11-23 19-10-26 PST Mihaela btw your screenshots are too large, make a smaller window before snapping 2018-11-30 18-29-48 PST Mihaela it would help if I knew the whole concept how many different layouts there are and which ones don't have sidebar 2018-11-27 12-05-47 PST Mihaela then cross out when they're solved 2018-12-09 12-28-21 PST Mihaela it wasn't that bad lol but we're working on a new version 2018-11-29 15-11-34 PST Mihaela it's very cold here too, below 0 2020-09-25 13-48-30 PDT Mihaela I've learned that the "rules" that businesses _should_ follow aren't really business specific, they are very common sense rational approaches that were proven to work 2018-11-18 15-37-31 PST Mihaela I'll do it blind then and commit through gitlab interface 2018-11-27 15-45-56 PST Mihaela why has my forum css affected that 2018-11-25 17-38-15 PST Mihaela ah yes I only see number locally 2018-11-17 16-22-02 PST Mihaela init whatever to get it on localhost 2018-11-23 19-09-27 PST Mihaela I'm glad I didn't mess it up 2018-11-23 08-58-22 PST Mihaela but since the loop is a bit outside of things it actually outputs each comment into its own 2018-11-23 19-32-05 PST Mihaela but thread view can be improved 2020-09-24 16-01-15 PDT Mihaela lol no it wasn't you, I brought it up internally through email, I just thought that the people involved handled it somehow so it doesn't affect the project after I pulled back, but as far as I can see nothing happened? No info at all
I don't always agree with everything you say or how you act but you're open to talk about it and your intentions seem sound.
I have no idea how to handle it as far as the project goes, I do know what my personal boundaries are and it's easy for me to draw the line. I care about the project too but this seems soooooo complicated to solve that I just think why try, it's a waste of my energy. If a project (that means people btw) can be such that they drive away a long term willing contributor then there's something wrong.
And it happened before, to me, and to others.
This project's culture is fucked up!
Just because it doesn't happen every day and most of interactions are very positive, a question should be raised is it worth it to go blind to negative things that can be rare but come at a high cost of losing contributors.
omg I was appointed a Contributions Officer and got driven away. Fuck that shit! 2018-11-29 13-57-49 PST Mihaela ok I will commit css formatted 2018-11-26 12-32-16 PST Mihaela there is such a folder 2020-09-25 14-43-44 PDT Mihaela yup 2018-11-23 19-55-45 PST Mihaela the icons are good, display ok 2020-09-25 13-42-50 PDT Mihaela there is some of it happening here, but it's so multilayered and complex it would take a full time job to untangle 2018-11-28 16-36-21 PST Mihaela not so much in others 2018-12-09 16-15-36 PST Mihaela I was thinking of doing that after others agree to the changes 2018-11-30 18-24-15 PST Mihaela but I expected to add the quick links in the header 2018-11-24 20-38-11 PST Mihaela looks small enough on desktop 2018-11-23 19-24-50 PST Mihaela What is the purpose of the Attachments button in comment footer? 2020-03-28 14-24-46 PDT Mihaela which word would you use, so people worldwide would understand what it refers to? 2018-11-29 14-02-58 PST Mihaela good to know 2020-09-25 14-57-47 PDT Mihaela I can preach about some topics whenever :D 2018-11-20 08-46-30 PST Mihaela yes np 2018-11-18 15-36-57 PST Mihaela heh I'm glad to test 2018-11-26 13-13-45 PST Mihaela wohoooooo it's working 2018-11-27 16-15-45 PST Mihaela shoot 2018-11-26 12-25-14 PST Mihaela ok 2020-08-11 07-06-37 PDT Mihaela Michele has been available consistently for a long time 2018-11-27 15-41-26 PST Mihaela isn't gallery on main site code 2020-09-25 14-27-38 PDT Mihaela hehehe and Vectos were so criticized .... 2018-11-26 17-04-47 PST Mihaela I committed todays work 2018-11-26 11-59-09 PST Mihaela I don't know how that works 2018-11-18 15-39-27 PST Mihaela need to go now 2018-11-18 15-04-24 PST Mihaela how do I pull it and make it local? 2018-11-25 17-46-04 PST Mihaela I thought fontawesome is all in there 2018-11-25 09-16-20 PST Mihaela I'll have to see about IE support though 2018-11-30 18-19-20 PST Mihaela it seems ok 2018-11-26 12-37-19 PST Mihaela ? 2020-07-13 16-25-34 PDT Mihaela I need to go, Wednesday's early rise for me :laughing: so I better start today 2018-11-26 12-49-44 PST Mihaela yes I'm logged in 2018-11-26 12-10-05 PST Mihaela why wouldn't it terminate then? 2018-11-27 13-47-42 PST Mihaela :scream_cat: 2018-11-18 15-20-20 PST Mihaela changes I might lose 2018-11-25 18-16-03 PST Mihaela ty! 2018-11-27 13-03-23 PST Mihaela what do you like about bootstrap 2018-11-18 15-01-38 PST Mihaela do I need to do anything? 2018-11-28 15-03-11 PST Mihaela maybe that would give you a better idea what we're after 2018-11-26 12-42-25 PST Mihaela processing a bunch of files from there 2018-11-30 18-23-33 PST Mihaela when on main forum pages the forum description should be treated differently, not like topic title like now 2018-11-23 18-54-10 PST Mihaela lol it made a color chip 2018-11-23 19-32-13 PST Mihaela so that's why I did first 2018-11-27 13-46-16 PST Mihaela The comment list isn't well designed and it needs more colours and better layouts. 2018-11-18 15-35-18 PST Mihaela yes i've been planning for the past 6 months :p 2018-11-27 13-46-54 PST Mihaela they just tinker and get shit done 2018-12-16 17-14-33 PST Mihaela ooops wrong channel 2018-11-26 12-39-19 PST Mihaela can I try init now? 2020-09-25 14-07-50 PDT Mihaela wut? 2018-11-27 13-36-32 PST Mihaela good to choose one that has all accessibility supported 2018-11-25 18-14-35 PST Mihaela and on mobiles make a larger gap between comments since there is no border divider 2018-11-25 17-15-37 PST Mihaela I've just committed my changes 2018-11-26 12-44-22 PST Mihaela WARNING:root:No fastly module installed (skipping)
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2018-11-30 18-16-16 PST Mihaela but how do I get the two versions to compare 2018-11-26 12-45-03 PST Mihaela seems to be done without errors 2018-12-01 09-17-10 PST Mihaela how come it shows correctly on live but my local has wrong paths? 2018-11-23 19-12-19 PST Mihaela the datetime attribute 2020-09-25 14-50-56 PDT Mihaela sometimes it's enough to just repeat the same in a different way, not everyone thinks the same way and hearing it from another angle might be what resonates with them, so don't give up, rather explain again, don't save your breath 2018-11-30 18-30-28 PST Mihaela actually not change that element but its parent forum-box 2018-12-01 18-19-31 PST Mihaela I pushed some changes, made a special element for forum description 2018-11-27 13-58-50 PST Mihaela because you like building things? 2018-11-17 16-36-03 PST Mihaela where does that appear? 2018-12-09 16-20-40 PST Mihaela it needs to be the final version, because translators will have work to do since there are a lot of changes 2018-11-27 11-56-24 PST Mihaela do you need any UX work for the website, for that Brazilian guy? 2018-11-23 19-20-49 PST Mihaela can you zip me a thread pls :D 2018-11-27 13-34-14 PST Mihaela can we have both? 2018-11-25 09-18-24 PST Mihaela what did you want to do with the forums once this is all done 2018-11-27 13-20-37 PST Mihaela btw could we have these smileys from rocket on the website? 2018-11-18 15-21-50 PST Mihaela ok will do that now and let you know 2020-09-25 14-14-45 PDT Mihaela there are some control issues here 2018-11-26 12-13-32 PST Mihaela ah that's output 2018-11-23 10-28-08 PST Mihaela we had snow this week, kinda unusual 2020-07-13 14-33-59 PDT Mihaela Oh gawd :rolling_eyes:
After all this talk about what the Board does I'm still not clear on what it means. I can show up once a month for the meeting, and vote when necessary, I might need clarifications in some cases. What else should I expect? 2018-11-26 11-59-27 PST Mihaela but would it be slow 2018-11-18 14-59-30 PST Mihaela I deleted it just earlier 2018-11-17 15-51-54 PST Mihaela but old ubuntu 2020-09-25 14-26-54 PDT Mihaela wow 2020-09-25 14-46-45 PDT Mihaela you will most likely be that initiator 2018-11-23 18-54-14 PST Mihaela not issue link 2018-11-28 15-12-09 PST Mihaela only the dancing banana is missing 2018-11-26 12-03-24 PST Mihaela prerequisits 2018-11-28 15-04-47 PST Mihaela I'm trying to make the base tpl layout responsive 2018-11-30 18-28-33 PST Mihaela yes 2018-11-26 12-34-52 PST Mihaela how deactivate? 2018-11-25 17-31-49 PST Mihaela did I copy the twig in the wrong way? 2018-11-30 18-13-11 PST Mihaela do i need to manage db 2018-11-27 16-29-33 PST Mihaela html comments? 2018-11-23 19-31-30 PST Mihaela thats the whole point 2018-11-27 11-40-43 PST Mihaela and I didn't know where to point him 2020-09-25 14-14-22 PDT Mihaela just asked? 2018-11-27 16-32-06 PST Mihaela I can't load the local instance any more, after git pull 2018-11-26 12-39-43 PST Mihaela or update first? 2018-11-26 12-19-35 PST Mihaela not at all! 2018-12-16 17-43-46 PST Mihaela yes, they often have articles like that on that website 2020-09-25 13-47-21 PDT Mihaela but a lot of people see freedom software as a type of entity that _must_ behave very different from a business 2020-09-25 13-33-42 PDT Mihaela Or before? 2018-11-30 18-27-40 PST Mihaela a class on the forum container 2018-11-20 08-52-25 PST Mihaela thats it 2018-11-17 16-23-45 PST Mihaela git pull
./utils/update
./utils/init
./utils/manage runserver 2018-11-26 12-11-54 PST Mihaela $ sudo pip3 install virtualenv
Downloading/unpacking virtualenv
Downloading virtualenv-16.1.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl (1.9MB): 1.9MB downloaded
Installing collected packages: virtualenv
Successfully installed virtualenv
Cleaning up...
2018-11-29 13-55-08 PST Mihaela but don't spend too much on this 2018-11-28 15-35-00 PST Mihaela is it on narrow screens 2018-11-23 19-26-49 PST Mihaela what does the first one do? 2018-11-29 14-10-33 PST Mihaela ok found some 2018-11-30 18-24-47 PST Mihaela but I need to know when 2020-09-23 18-01-48 PDT Mihaela Oy! You're doing a great job on Twitter, you're catching tweets I'd never notice, replying to peoples complaints is gold and I love the way you nudge to contribute!
Did you post on the Vectors channel about adding the docs to that platform? It's not a big task at all. I'm kinda retired from Inkscape so I don't want to just pop in unexpectedly. 2018-11-25 18-14-03 PST Mihaela yes that is more or less the way I imagined it 2018-11-28 16-31-43 PST Mihaela there's a bug I introduced with naming a block header in base.html, because we also have that name block in forumtopic_detail, the one showing a particular subforum name 2018-11-29 13-10-20 PST Mihaela I have it all set up, but because it structures it automatically based on some space and new line rules it changes a lot of the lines in the CSS 2018-11-27 12-04-46 PST Mihaela btw do you have that mobile bug list? 2018-11-23 19-33-07 PST Mihaela it's a bit frustrating deving like this blind and without my usual tools 2018-11-18 15-44-05 PST Mihaela you too 2018-11-23 18-53-34 PST Mihaela I changed the html after your changes 2018-11-18 15-03-09 PST Mihaela ? 2018-11-30 18-31-22 PST Mihaela and .forum-thread if for the other case (we only need one) 2018-11-27 12-03-21 PST Mihaela I can take care of css 2018-11-23 19-12-12 PST Mihaela I have no idea if this works well with your django magic 2018-11-18 15-09-24 PST Mihaela here's the ending 2018-11-26 13-03-06 PST Mihaela lol 2018-11-27 16-45-04 PST Mihaela I deleted the settings 2018-11-26 13-12-07 PST Mihaela in the fonts? folder you sent 2018-11-23 19-53-57 PST Mihaela so it's more clear it's not a comment 2018-11-27 15-46-59 PST Mihaela or are only comments people post on gallery forum code 2018-11-18 15-14-23 PST Mihaela since I deleted it there is no local_settings.py 2018-11-26 12-13-43 PST Mihaela I got it 2018-11-18 15-20-01 PST Mihaela ok I think I don't have any tails right? all is up there committed on gitlab 2018-11-28 16-32-53 PST Mihaela is there a nice dia file showing the templates structure? 2018-11-27 11-56-40 PST Mihaela or maybe just guide him to whatever is current in app UX? 2018-11-26 13-04-18 PST Mihaela and I don't seem to have the add forum interface 2018-12-05 17-27-28 PST Mihaela maybe in a gitlab issue I can link them to 2018-11-28 14-28-13 PST Mihaela but it doesn't do anything on its own, no output 2020-09-25 13-44-14 PDT Mihaela we don't advertise for jobs, we just use people who come in, and we don't test them in any way other than dedication to the project, and where there are more people involved with varying degrees of understanding it becomes a problem 2020-08-01 14-36-57 PDT Mihaela Elisa Godoy de Castro Guerra elisa.dcg(a)gmail.com 2018-11-17 16-48-52 PST Mihaela im off to bed now, see ya tomorrow 2020-09-25 13-51-31 PDT Mihaela it just happens that business ways have the best ways of solving things, because they are forced to make it work, failure is bad, it's not like in science where you fail an experiment a 1000 times and say you've discovered 1000 way it doesn't work, in business it must add up, and come with a tangible result in the end if you want it sustainable 2018-11-28 15-13-01 PST Mihaela ! 2020-09-25 14-52-42 PDT Mihaela you have to know what you want the outcomes to be 2020-09-25 14-21-09 PDT Mihaela hahaha my big mouth and taking no prisoners ::giggle:: 2018-11-25 09-16-31 PST Mihaela any requirements there? 2020-09-25 13-31-00 PDT Mihaela what did you imagine happens in those situations? 2018-11-29 13-56-12 PST Mihaela you don't need css then 2018-11-30 18-20-35 PST Mihaela but there was the sidebar duplicated, and weird markings HEAD ==========> or sth like that with hash string too 2018-11-29 15-21-00 PST Mihaela wouldn't it just override it? 2020-09-25 14-36-48 PDT Mihaela I thought that what people said to you made you sad 2018-11-28 15-12-46 PST Mihaela https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/candy-crush-saga/images/8/8e/Dancing_ba… 2018-11-26 12-28-57 PST Mihaela $ ./utils/manage shell
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/utils/../inkscape/manage.py", line 32, in
from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line
ImportError: No module named 'django'
2018-11-23 18-53-45 PST Mihaela so need to change css too 2018-11-27 13-29-16 PST Mihaela eeeeeeek 2018-11-23 19-09-45 PST Mihaela wot 2018-12-09 12-40-46 PST Mihaela text update and also css if people accept it 2018-11-17 15-51-50 PST Mihaela yup 2018-11-23 08-56-56 PST Mihaela header and footer of each comment 2018-11-30 18-22-33 PST Mihaela how can I reliably know when the sidebar will or will not appear 2018-12-01 09-08-05 PST Mihaela basehtmlForumurl.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/d9dTD6TjYmMjC9aAi/basehtmlForumurl.png) 2018-11-26 12-20-29 PST Mihaela No python headers detected!
I require python-dev, but it is not installed, attempting install...
2018-11-30 18-27-03 PST Mihaela but it's actually missing 2018-11-28 15-40-19 PST Mihaela people know that live forums aren't officially released and they're only testing? 2019-01-31 23-58-08 PST Mihaela https://inkscape.org/forums/questions/nam-aliquando-posse-recte-fieri/#c1971
it may be this one 2018-11-23 19-19-44 PST Mihaela CSS that is 2018-11-20 08-44-10 PST Mihaela sori eating and typing 2018-11-25 17-40-10 PST Mihaela or use some font icon 2020-08-11 07-09-44 PDT Mihaela you want me on Board to bypass Bryce who you think SFC doesn't like any more? 2018-11-25 09-19-54 PST Mihaela yes I expect there might be more polishing to do later 2020-03-28 14-18-53 PDT Mihaela wohooooooo 2018-11-24 20-33-03 PST Mihaela I'm being tortured by the css grid 2018-11-17 16-26-09 PST Mihaela what else should I take a look at besides the comment thread 2018-11-26 13-09-32 PST Mihaela I can visit /forums 2020-07-04 15-49-44 PDT Mihaela on twitter 2018-11-23 19-37-15 PST Mihaela good good 2020-09-25 13-46-39 PDT Mihaela no, I would just apply what I've learned in business to solve problems 2018-11-30 18-15-53 PST Mihaela but it's frustrating I don't know the procedure 2018-11-27 16-02-48 PST Mihaela so when I applied some layout to its children, it affected that too, because the same class is used 2018-11-26 12-52-50 PST Mihaela but I see old styles 2020-09-25 14-44-19 PDT Mihaela was it a written question? 2018-11-23 19-32-48 PST Mihaela and if you give me a zip I won't have to edit the html manually locally to keep up with the template changes 2018-11-29 13-10-42 PST Mihaela this big change will only happen once 2020-09-25 10-14-11 PDT Mihaela You didn't miss anything, it was hidden by design I guess. I expected the people who know what happened and who continued after me to take more initiative and reorganize, but that didn't happen, and it's not surprising to see lack of leadership in a Freedom software project, although it's very frustrating and should be addressed but I feel like in the past when I was warning about this people who don't know much about the topic just shot it down.
I'm beginning to see more and more the many flaws in the common way these projects are organized. So I see it as a systemic problem. Then when you reveal that to the people involved it will become a people problem because they will resist to change their way even when proven they're doing it wrong. That's how I see it at least.
I have no idea how to break it out in public. It can make waves and it could label Inkscape a not friendly project, and that would deter people from getting involved. But it is the truth! IMO even if most of interactions are good and most people have completely pleasant experience, it seems that those who are motivated to do more, to stay long term and get to larger results have the worst experience. People I know who suffered this are all female. It's not statistically relevant, but there is something there, since the man in the similar position got a lot more support. 2018-11-23 19-49-12 PST Mihaela or should I just add them to forum.css as necessary? 2018-11-30 18-12-56 PST Mihaela merge did sth, I'm trying to fix 2018-11-27 13-07-18 PST Mihaela at least I expect not to 2018-11-26 13-16-12 PST Mihaela off the record I'm calling them Bubbles 2018-11-26 11-59-40 PST Mihaela but I have vm fedora 19 2018-11-18 15-06-20 PST Mihaela yay 2018-11-30 18-38-41 PST Mihaela I only have one there, my old one 2018-11-23 19-44-09 PST Mihaela I'm working css now but if I get sleepy I'll finish tomorrow 2018-11-17 16-21-51 PST Mihaela I have done that in the past 2018-11-26 12-21-13 PST Mihaela Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/utils/../inkscape/manage.py", line 32, in
from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line
ImportError: No module named 'django'
Updating inkscape-web log...
Retrieving inkscape-docs...
Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/master'.
New revisions found, updating!
HEAD is now at 451b66f Automatic update from CI
./utils/deploy-docs: line 46: data/media/doc/revision: No such file or directory
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/utils/../inkscape/manage.py", line 32, in
from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line
ImportError: No module named 'django'
Copied static files from pythonenv to local static
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/utils/../inkscape/manage.py", line 32, in
from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line
ImportError: No module named 'django'
2018-11-29 13-56-55 PST Mihaela I can't figure out how that interlinking goes 2018-11-18 15-35-37 PST Mihaela I can't do it while I'm working on projects 2018-11-29 14-00-44 PST Mihaela {% extends "forums/base.html" %} 2018-11-29 13-46-12 PST Mihaela it's just to make my life easier 2018-12-16 17-14-10 PST Mihaela Great article about recent changes in open source funding, probably specially relevant to @bryce and @ryangorley https://opensource.com/article/18/11/3-new-tipping-points-open-source 2018-12-01 09-15-55 PST Mihaela but I still don't see the small forum images in the sidebar 2018-11-25 09-14-59 PST Mihaela a lot of CSS magic is in knowing which units to use in which cases 2018-11-18 15-34-17 PST Mihaela main, no changes since the last time I worked on ink web 2018-11-23 15-02-37 PST Mihaela all the things is my fav meme :D 2020-08-11 07-10-56 PDT Mihaela I won't know what she thinks before we talk ey 2018-11-23 10-20-20 PST Mihaela music always takes precedence 2020-09-25 14-17-42 PDT Mihaela what then? 2020-09-25 14-05-24 PDT Mihaela but you have the same powers as him, you're all on the Board 2018-11-23 19-53-49 PST Mihaela maybe only add some styles to that first description 2018-11-26 13-08-53 PST Mihaela I only see Page now 2018-11-27 15-42-36 PST Mihaela apart from forum.css and bootstrap 2020-09-25 14-43-48 PDT Mihaela and the others? 2020-09-25 14-48-39 PDT Mihaela and you have to be open and transparent and calm in what you're proposing 2018-11-20 08-56-11 PST Mihaela btw im out of loop 2018-11-27 14-07-04 PST Mihaela what is django good for? 2020-09-25 14-39-53 PDT Mihaela I saw flaws from the inside 2018-11-27 13-36-44 PST Mihaela keyboard navigation, swiping etc 2018-11-23 19-53-27 PST Mihaela it has some own styles so i don't expect my changes will mess it up 2018-11-30 18-16-28 PST Mihaela I have no idea what pull does when it sees conflict 2018-11-26 11-58-34 PST Mihaela can I use the usb as os but the /var/ from my local hdd 2018-11-26 12-11-32 PST Mihaela NameError: name 'q' is not defined
>>> exit
Use exit() or Ctrl-D (i.e. EOF) to exit
>>>
KeyboardInterrupt
>>>
2020-09-25 14-14-55 PDT Mihaela lol 2020-09-25 14-42-52 PDT Mihaela to him 2018-11-29 13-10-31 PST Mihaela is it ok if I use it? 2018-11-28 15-12-58 PST Mihaela kewl 2018-11-29 13-57-32 PST Mihaela I changed the header block from forumdetails template into forumheader, then the header block I put in base.html started working 2018-11-24 20-36-51 PST Mihaela I did a small fix for mobiles but I don't think it's up there yet 2018-11-26 11-54-18 PST Mihaela you'll spend less time helping me with zips than spending your brain power on an outdated machine 2020-09-25 13-48-51 PDT Mihaela not all businesses follow those rules, most businesses fail 2018-11-17 16-35-03 PST Mihaela not in edit 2018-11-29 13-55-21 PST Mihaela I already have that locally to make it easier 2018-11-28 15-02-17 PST Mihaela it's not urgent 2020-09-25 15-27-54 PDT Mihaela I'm glad to help! Let me know how things go and if you need help with anything 2018-11-26 12-09-30 PST Mihaela is that py thing only? 2020-03-28 14-46-45 PDT Mihaela yes def. 2020-03-28 14-23-20 PDT Mihaela wow not even tar.gz allowed 2018-11-17 15-53-38 PST Mihaela I added some more html as text 2018-12-05 17-26-32 PST Mihaela oy, I'm writing a request to UX team 2018-11-25 09-14-39 PST Mihaela oh they're super super useful 2018-11-27 13-07-39 PST Mihaela how are we on the performance side? 2020-08-11 07-08-29 PDT Mihaela do you expect that the Board would block an initiative that we prepare and ask money for? For example some paid dev that we couldn't raise through crowdfunding? 2018-11-27 16-10-30 PST Mihaela you had to do something to output squares 2018-11-26 12-12-17 PST Mihaela $ virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python3.6 ~/virtualenvs/venv_devopspy
Running virtualenv with interpreter /usr/bin/python3.6
Using base prefix '/usr'
New python executable in /home/mihaela/virtualenvs/venv_devopspy/bin/python3.6
Also creating executable in /home/mihaela/virtualenvs/venv_devopspy/bin/python
Installing setuptools, pip, wheel...
done.
2018-11-30 18-27-27 PST Mihaela yes a body class makes sense 2018-11-23 19-13-17 PST Mihaela https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/time 2018-11-26 17-06-13 PST Mihaela :tractor: 2018-11-26 11-53-43 PST Mihaela it's not that important is it? 2020-08-11 07-05-37 PDT Mihaela it's always been an issue of what things look like from the inside vs. outside. Users see the Board as the driving force, and the Board is kinda washing their hands of responsibility because it's been set up that way 2018-11-26 12-42-57 PST Mihaela Running migrations:
No migrations to apply.
Your models have changes that are not yet reflected in a migration, and so won't be applied.
Run 'manage.py makemigrations' to make new migrations, and then re-run 'manage.py migrate' to apply them.
2018-11-29 14-05-03 PST Mihaela but it's better to only use one direction otherwise you get tangles 2018-11-18 14-50-50 PST Mihaela I did 2018-11-20 09-03-01 PST Mihaela its just differing communication styles and a bit sieve holes for information, but I can fill in the holes and we'll be on the same page 2018-11-26 13-15-25 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-25 18-06-27 PST Mihaela `/var/www/html/inkscape-web/forums/static/emoji/48/1f642.png` 2020-09-25 14-27-05 PDT Mihaela how long usually? 2018-11-23 15-02-52 PST Mihaela lolol 2020-09-25 14-08-51 PDT Mihaela wow it's definitely a very bad situation 2018-11-26 12-41-46 PST Mihaela doing sth 2020-08-11 14-41-38 PDT Mihaela here's my quick take, it's still a lot of WIP and new ideas stream in as it's all happening (adding a call to donate to the project in general, if it's allowed by Patreon) 2018-11-23 10-26-35 PST Mihaela ill try to make it as soon as possible so you or someone can test my markup changes in time 2018-11-29 14-06-14 PST Mihaela :smirk_cat: 2018-11-18 15-32-12 PST Mihaela prkosUpdate.txt (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/hDpyAgpbtvgzGtQpm/prkosUpdate.txt) 2018-11-26 11-56-58 PST Mihaela and I might have old ubuntu, so I'd have to build a new vm 2018-12-01 09-07-20 PST Mihaela I think I'll be able to work out the collapsing layout with css, I was so tired I couldn't think straight 2018-11-23 19-34-39 PST Mihaela it's only a small change np, first world problems 2018-11-27 13-09-30 PST Mihaela client speed can count a lot these days 2018-11-20 08-43-43 PST Mihaela ill commit changes with screenshots 2018-11-28 14-29-52 PST Mihaela and rearrange the aside one because I need to move some HTML out of it 2018-11-30 18-13-54 PST Mihaela Your models have changes that are not yet reflected in a migration, and so won't be applied.
Run 'manage.py makemigrations' to make new migrations, and then re-run 'manage.py migrate' to apply them. 2018-11-28 15-36-20 PST Mihaela ah I see it 2018-12-01 09-45-07 PST Mihaela nogo 2020-09-25 14-39-14 PDT Mihaela things change, some projects die, new come up with fresh energy 2018-11-23 18-50-53 PST Mihaela well its quick 2018-11-18 15-36-11 PST Mihaela Python 3.4.3
2018-11-18 15-19-21 PST Mihaela yes 2019-01-31 23-02-15 PST Mihaela so the folder we have isn't the same code as downloading it from their builder? It has the fixes applied? Can this somehow be separated? What version are we using? I'd like to use 5, and a different theme, and some more features (the basic one isn't usable IMO). Is there any interface through which we can enable/disable buttons or is this only done through their builder before downloading? How is the editor implemented into the forum? If I replace the folder will the functions be the same names and work? 2018-11-29 14-04-13 PST Mihaela ah so it can go both ways? 2018-11-29 14-07-59 PST Mihaela I still don't get why I'm not getting header output on forum thread 2018-11-23 08-56-36 PST Mihaela I'm still rearranging the html a bit to get things into right place for the design 2018-11-29 13-18-50 PST Mihaela it won't affect you in any significant way if you're not that into css, and it makes sense to clean out the output a bit 2018-11-27 11-48-33 PST Mihaela I'm just chatting about these things with bryce and maren 2018-11-27 13-30-57 PST Mihaela hehe 2018-11-27 13-35-11 PST Mihaela maybe there's a django plugin 2018-11-26 12-47-19 PST Mihaela No forums configured 2018-11-26 12-57-28 PST Mihaela how do I do that? 2018-11-25 17-15-55 PST Mihaela can you apply to live so I can check? 2018-11-29 14-02-13 PST Mihaela so it takes base.html and edits the details it wants and outputs base-modified 2020-09-25 14-22-37 PDT Mihaela what ideas? something surprising? 2018-11-26 12-44-44 PST Mihaela geoip? 2020-09-25 14-56-03 PDT Mihaela don't wait for the meeting to happen to gather info at the meeting, so again if there are objections you have arguments to counter them. Remind people of the end goal if you get tangled into details, always come back to the end goal and purpose of it all. If there's no clarity ask more questions and support discussion. Try to make them take it seriously so you don't waste time with one line comments, and try to get to some conclusions. 2020-08-11 14-26-07 PDT Mihaela unpaid that is 2020-08-11 07-03-32 PDT Mihaela but that is the issue for the whole Board, and it has been for years 2018-12-02 09-53-58 PST Mihaela yay! I didn't know 2018-11-17 15-50-05 PST Mihaela yes I see, I'm not getting the unicodes either 2018-11-26 12-07-06 PST Mihaela $ python3.6
Python 3.6.3 (default, Oct 6 2017, 00:00:00)
[GCC 4.8.4] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>
2018-11-27 15-46-18 PST Mihaela https://inkscape.org/forums/gallery/str-logo-2018/ 2020-09-25 14-59-07 PDT Mihaela open source development has a lot of flaws like that 2018-11-20 09-00-14 PST Mihaela so if we give her features she needs shell be exstatic 2018-11-25 18-16-41 PST Mihaela what happens when theres an attachment 2018-11-30 18-15-26 PST Mihaela but no icons 2018-11-30 18-36-20 PST Mihaela I used to have one icon 2018-11-27 13-32-21 PST Mihaela do the forum badges count new comments, not threads where there are changes? 2018-11-20 08-51-44 PST Mihaela nono all good 2018-12-01 18-20-15 PST Mihaela it doesn't appear on the comment list, I'm not sure if we should have it there but if it's not too difficult technically can you allow it there too? 2018-11-26 12-52-45 PST Mihaela i created a group, went ok, new thread 2018-11-29 13-52-18 PST Mihaela learning sass isn't that useful before you're css expert 2018-11-25 18-43-45 PST Mihaela I did remove some elements though 2018-11-26 11-52-31 PST Mihaela anyone else doing that? 2020-09-25 13-44-50 PDT Mihaela but you're asking a business owner :D you might not like the answer 2018-12-09 16-22-36 PST Mihaela aren't they just like other pages on the site? 2018-11-20 08-54-01 PST Mihaela yes 2018-11-28 15-36-29 PST Mihaela because of overlap need to set z-index 2018-11-27 12-05-39 PST Mihaela I think it would be useful to have one issue on GL to list them 2018-11-23 18-52-59 PST Mihaela maybe adjust the indentation not sure the convention there 2018-11-24 20-34-42 PST Mihaela you just have to write it all up for all items 2020-09-25 14-38-08 PDT Mihaela but I was warning about the project health a looooooong time ago 2018-11-17 16-09-56 PST Mihaela I'm nitpicking here lol 2018-12-02 18-06-18 PST Mihaela ty, I need to go now, and I'll probably be busy tomorrow too, so I'll address this on Tuesday if it's not too late 2018-11-28 15-04-28 PST Mihaela one of these days 2018-11-20 08-43-16 PST Mihaela yes 2020-09-25 13-54-46 PDT Mihaela this is just a tiny sliver of the problem 2018-11-27 13-36-15 PST Mihaela ok colorbox, lightbox all come to mind, not sure which one is the most popular nowadays 2018-11-26 11-55-56 PST Mihaela I have vms 2018-11-23 15-01-14 PST Mihaela yes I see the tools, I'll try to make them fit a bit more 2018-11-28 16-32-07 PST Mihaela I'll fix tomorrow 2018-11-26 12-36-38 PST Mihaela yup 2019-02-01 00-25-15 PST Mihaela what did you tweak? was it bugs and things didn't work? 2020-09-25 13-21-52 PDT Mihaela ok 5 mins 2018-11-30 18-24-55 PST Mihaela there's nothing in code now that tells me that 2020-09-25 14-37-28 PDT Mihaela I'm also a bit shocked that they kept silent, it's so irresponsible it makes me angry 2018-11-25 17-45-11 PST Mihaela https://fontawesome.com/icons/smile?style=regular maybe just that one then 2018-11-26 12-37-35 PST Mihaela got it 2020-08-11 14-23-09 PDT Mihaela :angry: didn't we agree to always use "Freedom Software" 2020-03-28 14-46-15 PDT Mihaela they have it working for other mask manufacturers too but it's not in the doc yet 2018-11-29 13-54-36 PST Mihaela for me gulp is set up to watch the folder for changes so it compiles whenever I save sass 2018-11-23 18-58-36 PST Mihaela not forums3? 2018-11-17 16-19-19 PST Mihaela oh my dog why take on something so huge on yourself 2018-11-29 13-55-40 PST Mihaela wow lol 2018-11-28 15-02-59 PST Mihaela I can mockup a design for the forum header 2018-11-20 08-56-30 PST Mihaela brynn emailed this morning about the old forum 2020-09-25 14-34-05 PDT Mihaela what is making you unhappy? what are they saying? 2018-11-20 08-57-58 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-25 18-42-21 PST Mihaela old, so not my changes? 2018-11-23 19-11-53 PST Mihaela ` {{ comment.submit_date|timetag }} ` 2018-11-23 18-57-44 PST Mihaela just its placement 2018-11-26 12-13-58 PST Mihaela can I try and build local web? 2018-11-17 16-21-11 PST Mihaela as it should be :imp: 2018-12-09 13-12-52 PST Mihaela yes that was the intention 2018-11-29 13-50-50 PST Mihaela not sure about that py sass you suggested, seem like it might be enough 2018-11-23 18-52-20 PST Mihaela and it would be good if that could be tested 2018-11-24 20-34-28 PST Mihaela grids are notorious for not being step by step things 2018-11-26 12-30-56 PST Mihaela and then? 2018-11-27 16-09-23 PST Mihaela commit to branch forum-styles? 2018-11-29 15-12-59 PST Mihaela it can't be a completely new block in the file that extends it 2018-11-28 15-11-54 PST Mihaela :dancer: 2018-11-23 15-20-06 PST Mihaela no letters are silent 2018-11-25 17-37-12 PST Mihaela I can polish some more, need to make the other buttons fit better with the new bubbles 2018-11-23 19-14-19 PST Mihaela yes you can use the Ago in the element, but the attribute needs specific format 2020-03-28 14-17-41 PDT Mihaela https://pandemija.info/respiratorhr/
We're translating into English now, not yet live 2018-11-25 18-09-13 PST Mihaela you still on holiday? 2018-11-17 16-00-52 PST Mihaela sure 2018-11-23 18-51-54 PST Mihaela so I shouldn't do the Issue-branch-whatever process? 2018-12-05 17-26-42 PST Mihaela comments? 2018-11-30 18-29-10 PST Mihaela I would like to have a different class there if on forum thread page 2018-11-20 08-51-04 PST Mihaela you know ubuntu 14 nogo py 2020-03-28 14-34-38 PDT Mihaela membrane 2018-11-29 19-48-09 PST Mihaela I pushed to master, there is ONE hardcoded bits you should replace in the `forumtopic_detail_html` in line 6. It is marked with my text starting with Hardcoded and a comment {#........#} replace that with real code. If we have subforums of subforums create a loop including the anchor element with glyphicon span, but excluding the last span .forum-thread-title 2018-11-27 15-30-24 PST Mihaela when I search for `panel-resource` I only get css files, no template where that class is used 2020-09-25 14-19-08 PDT Mihaela haha I recognize the feel 2018-11-18 15-37-14 PST Mihaela but I was so looking forward to mangling forum css 2018-11-26 13-17-14 PST Mihaela ok I'll adjust the other buttons to resemble more 2018-11-17 16-16-59 PST Mihaela there isn't something already ready for django forum? 2018-11-25 18-08-58 PST Mihaela case package? 2018-11-18 15-18-00 PST Mihaela 2.7 seems to be 2020-03-28 14-37-18 PDT Mihaela are you sure about the "it's"? 2018-11-26 12-47-55 PST Mihaela :fries: but I'd like some fried with dat 2018-11-27 16-06-24 PST Mihaela is that by design? 2018-11-24 20-38-41 PST Mihaela I usually use % or vw as horizontal units 2018-11-18 15-32-41 PST Mihaela ImportError: No module named 'django'
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2018-11-28 14-30-59 PST Mihaela ok ty 2018-11-23 15-01-33 PST Mihaela but they look great overall 2018-11-24 20-35-01 PST Mihaela and then debug 2018-11-23 10-19-52 PST Mihaela lolol np 2018-11-23 18-55-15 PST Mihaela wow media type html not accepted here 2020-09-25 13-35-10 PDT Mihaela That can be helped much more easily than culture issues 2018-11-26 12-46-44 PST Mihaela no link to forum right? 2018-11-18 14-52-00 PST Mihaela I don't remember needing it before 2018-11-27 12-51-44 PST Mihaela and one other maybe stupid q: why bootstrap? 2018-11-17 16-12-59 PST Mihaela ok, weird choice of markup but it doesn't hurt too much I guess 2018-11-17 16-31-24 PST Mihaela will attachments accept svg? 2018-11-18 15-12-07 PST Mihaela so far a bit different: 2020-09-25 14-49-53 PDT Mihaela just in a bit more detail 2020-03-28 14-17-10 PDT Mihaela Oy! Can you help proof read some text that has been translated from Croatian to English?
It's about a doc about a volunteer project about how to 3D print a piece to connect a snorkle mask with a virus filter, licensed CC No Commercial
It's not likely we'll need it in Croatia, knock on wood, but they already have a lot of interest from abroad, India especially.
My biggest issue is what to call the part, the 3D printed piece that goes between the mask and the filter, we call it "adapter". Is that a good word? Maybe "connector"? What would makers call that do you know?
2018-11-27 15-42-21 PST Mihaela css is common? 2018-11-23 19-35-48 PST Mihaela but what about the one next to author name 2018-11-17 16-01-20 PST Mihaela `/*
Copyright (c) 2003-2017, CKSource - Frederico Knabben. All rights reserved.
For licensing, see LICENSE.md or http://ckeditor.com/license
*/` 2018-11-28 14-56-31 PST Mihaela comment? 2018-11-27 13-09-56 PST Mihaela to display the above fold content as soon as 2018-11-18 14-55-14 PST Mihaela prkosInitProblem.txt (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/Bydi4sbn3Z64QJ2o4/prkosInitProblem.txt) 2018-12-14 09-45-25 PST Mihaela that's ok, I think it will still be good to chat about what he'd like to achieve 2018-11-25 18-16-17 PST Mihaela although it would help to have a thread with all the trimmings 2018-11-27 13-28-31 PST Mihaela where dat? 2018-11-26 12-59-34 PST Mihaela ok it's runing now but the main navigation is missing 2018-11-27 08-45-51 PST Mihaela Is it too much? That's why I was worried that it's too much for one person, people are used to existing forum features and there are quite a few built over the years. Perhaps building special pages for unread posts and new posts isn't that big of a deal, but the spam and account management can be tricky 2018-11-30 18-22-15 PST Mihaela for cases with and without sidebar 2020-09-25 15-04-00 PDT Mihaela are you playing truant? 2018-11-17 16-20-56 PST Mihaela or is it on gitlab? 2018-11-23 19-31-32 PST Mihaela yes 2018-11-27 13-50-56 PST Mihaela is it possible to have themes? 2018-11-18 15-16-03 PST Mihaela ```
django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: The SECRET_KEY setting must not be empty.
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Username for 'https://gitlab.com': prkos
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``` 2018-11-27 11-50-14 PST Mihaela lolol 2018-11-23 10-27-53 PST Mihaela snow? 2020-09-25 14-36-22 PDT Mihaela :sweat: :cry: 2018-11-24 20-38-23 PST Mihaela but on mobiles it steals half the screen 2018-11-18 15-10-44 PST Mihaela yes but still that NoneType? 2018-11-29 13-52-56 PST Mihaela but the more I read about this py thing I think it might work 2018-11-26 12-28-35 PST Mihaela ok I'll do that 2018-11-29 13-59-15 PST Mihaela but I don't understand why is `forumheader` from forumtopic_detail.html output above the `header` from base.html 2018-11-18 14-53-26 PST Mihaela here's what I get: 2020-09-25 14-21-59 PDT Mihaela what did you hope for the new Board structure to be? People and changes 2018-12-09 16-19-26 PST Mihaela I added clipart from openclipart but have no idea if they look good, if a designer steps in with something nicer I'd be happy to code it in, but I don't have more time to work on the design 2018-11-23 18-52-37 PST Mihaela that the loops are looping correctly 2018-11-20 08-57-34 PST Mihaela we wont get far without her on forums she does almost everything 2018-11-28 15-40-00 PST Mihaela can I push unfinished work to master? 2018-11-23 19-14-55 PST Mihaela you can see the acceptable formats on that page a bit lower 2018-11-29 13-48-52 PST Mihaela usually when building with sass you have the json and gulp files that execute it 2020-08-11 07-00-19 PDT Mihaela Any way I'd like to meet with Karen and see what she says, I expect it will be enlightening 2018-11-30 18-26-59 PST Mihaela that only tells me sidebar is empty 2018-11-28 16-41-10 PST Mihaela ty 2018-11-30 18-20-00 PST Mihaela but then after merge failed I expected to see my old unchanged file 2018-11-23 15-21-55 PST Mihaela :rolling_eyes: 2018-11-17 16-13-35 PST Mihaela do we control html templates? 2020-09-25 13-20-38 PDT Mihaela haha you're fishing
Don't look at it as an issue concerning women. It's a general issue. It's just that it comes up more easily with women because they're easy targets, because of the overall situation of less respect and all the other stuff that goes along...
The "correct" procedure would be to follow the Code of Conduct. I have considered it at first, but opted to give a chance in private. How that went, although I got an apology, made me not to want to get involved any further, just to avoid wasting time, and because of uncertainty of all sorts, and partially because Chris is the one in charge. This isn't a simple clean CoC issue. Maybe it would help the project to go through that procedure, but it wouldn't increase the chance of me coming back in the same capacity as before.
I have yet to hear my contributions are welcome and wanted. The atmosphere is "meh, whatever, it's open source if you don't want to you don't have to". That's not how a project can thrive. And I don't feel any of you understands that! You're just stuck in the historic ways of dealing with things where very little apart from the code was considered. It's already happened. It's impossible to tell where Inkscape would be today had it not lost (invisibly) a huge part of work that could have been contributed. Yet no one cares, no one talks about sustainability, nor goals, nor what financial goals might be. It's all lets just see how far we can go on unorganized volunteer work. That type of a project can't solve the culture problem in a million years.
For me to want to do something about it it would be necessary to feel that it _can_ change.
I'm also not telling you partially because I have no idea what you'd think or how you'd react, meaning it could be negative towards me. I might no be believed, or worse the other side would seem more valid to you (that would happen if you're just trying to defend your own irrational biases). I feel alone, and the people "on the other side" seem to be struggling to continue, which is hurting the project. This is a huge lesson in why leadership is important, but I don't expect you understand that, nor that you understand the difference between good and bad leadership.
If anything above sounds vague to you, hard to understand, then you wouldn't understand the problem even if you knew the details of events.
What do you expect of the CoC procedure, if that were to happen? What would that resolve? How do you expect it to help the project?
2018-11-29 13-49-45 PST Mihaela but I can include sass too if you like 2018-11-26 12-46-36 PST Mihaela seems to be working 2020-03-28 14-45-45 PDT Mihaela thank you! The medical guy will check our translation to English once we gather it all into one doc, then after he checks the medical I'll send you to check for clarity 2018-11-27 16-08-29 PST Mihaela also: can I commit and push through cli? 2020-08-11 07-06-17 PDT Mihaela I think Ryan might accept and he might get a lot of support too 2018-11-25 18-18-03 PST Mihaela if you know which cases those are maybe you can list them somewhere 2018-12-01 09-07-34 PST Mihaela I pulled and updated but I'm getting an error 2018-11-30 18-24-01 PST Mihaela maybe ask Brynn if she wants the sidebar always there 2020-09-25 14-10-08 PDT Mihaela and who smacks back, Bryce? 2018-11-29 14-00-31 PST Mihaela no? 2020-09-25 14-29-01 PDT Mihaela does he see the tweets thanking for the mac version? 2018-11-23 19-09-02 PST Mihaela but this was a big change 2018-11-27 13-09-11 PST Mihaela I'll go along with any framework I can understand well enough to use 2018-11-25 17-37-30 PST Mihaela but I'd like to hear some feedback first 2020-09-25 14-39-45 PDT Mihaela but what I saw wasn't even to do with the times changing 2020-09-25 13-55-00 PDT Mihaela I'd really have to write a novel about what the solution might be 2018-11-27 15-41-19 PST Mihaela aren't we keeping forums separate styles 2018-11-23 18-50-36 PST Mihaela yes 2018-11-17 16-35-42 PST Mihaela aaaaaah 2018-12-07 10-50-50 PST Mihaela yup 2018-11-23 15-02-24 PST Mihaela CSS all the things! 2018-11-28 14-30-24 PST Mihaela I just need to make sure that isn't tied to something else, if I start rearrangin code that some features disappear 2018-11-26 12-33-36 PST Mihaela that one? 2018-11-27 13-13-30 PST Mihaela you sure it's on the client side? insidehtml and css? 2018-11-27 13-34-59 PST Mihaela colorbox or something like that 2018-11-23 19-15-38 PST Mihaela aaaaah sorry didn't notice the time already in output 2020-09-25 14-27-55 PDT Mihaela why quit? 2018-12-01 09-45-21 PST Mihaela $ ./utils/manage loaddata forums
WARNING:root:No fastly module installed (skipping)
[skipping] Expected file: /var/www/html/inkscape-web/data/fixtures/media/forum/icon/art_gallery.svg
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2018-11-26 12-01-31 PST Mihaela when I need to 2018-11-23 15-03-07 PST Mihaela I need to add that to my sig 2018-11-18 15-14-41 PST Mihaela I'll restore from trash 2020-09-25 14-04-00 PDT Mihaela why is him being MIA so paralyzing? 2020-09-25 13-33-36 PDT Mihaela Do you mean after the moderation? 2018-11-24 20-37-39 PST Mihaela using px as units for horizontal measures isn't the best strategy 2020-07-13 16-22-49 PDT Mihaela and if Bryce and the Board tell SFC that I'm the appointed person, and they only have to deal with me, and I know my duties then they should be ok with it 2018-11-26 12-50-44 PST Mihaela group field required 2020-08-11 07-03-16 PDT Mihaela nope 2020-09-25 14-47-59 PDT Mihaela you just got your first speech :D 2018-11-27 13-30-14 PST Mihaela I used to be so into css animations 2018-11-28 15-04-16 PST Mihaela aaaaaaaah good idea 2018-11-30 18-21-01 PST Mihaela but you check what's happening 2020-09-25 14-26-35 PDT Mihaela not unless they also learn those other things 2018-11-25 17-59-07 PST Mihaela lol 2020-09-25 14-17-56 PDT Mihaela hasn't anyone chatted with him about his intentions and goals 2018-11-27 13-03-10 PST Mihaela I was thinking about the UX side as well 2018-11-30 18-31-52 PST Mihaela why don't I have icons? 2018-11-27 16-02-18 PST Mihaela it's because the same class is used for different areas on the comment thread 2018-11-25 17-39-22 PST Mihaela yes I was thinking about that, it should probably be something far less eye catching 2018-11-27 13-06-30 PST Mihaela how come 2018-11-26 11-59-34 PST Mihaela no, ubuntu 14 2018-11-17 16-27-57 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-28 16-26-47 PST Mihaela i pushed 2020-07-04 15-35-17 PDT Mihaela Oy!
What was the new feature you wanted us to tweet about?
I have access now to Inky Twitter so I can post it 2018-12-09 16-18-38 PST Mihaela I added separate vectors classes to apply only to those particular boxes 2018-11-28 15-04-19 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-23 19-35-39 PST Mihaela aha so these are the comment feedback 2020-03-28 14-36-06 PDT Mihaela lol that's ok as long as we ship the production version correctly :) 2020-09-25 13-21-41 PDT Mihaela you wanna read first? 2018-12-01 09-46-33 PST Mihaela lolol 2018-11-27 13-44-58 PST Mihaela https://inkscape.org/forums/questions/cant-draw-circles-anymore/#c1989 2018-11-27 16-05-37 PST Mihaela np, as long as I know I won't mess up anything else 2018-11-23 19-31-16 PST Mihaela with pls 2018-11-28 15-55-29 PST Mihaela ok 2018-11-18 15-14-32 PST Mihaela it doesn't get generated autoamtically? 2018-11-17 15-45-48 PST Mihaela of course, what exactly should I do? 2018-11-23 08-55-52 PST Mihaela Brynn hasn't replied yet, she's usually out this part of the week 2020-03-28 14-41-19 PDT Mihaela yes that will be adapter, not connector 2018-11-25 17-38-26 PST Mihaela that's why I need to see live 2018-11-25 18-18-14 PST Mihaela or create threads just for testing 2018-11-25 17-38-38 PST Mihaela really hard to dev blind without a local instance 2018-11-29 13-45-55 PST Mihaela so the idea is only I use it 2018-11-26 12-57-23 PST Mihaela System check identified no issues (0 silenced).
You have 8 unapplied migration(s). Your project may not work properly until you apply the migrations for app(s): el_menu, forums, resources.
Run 'python manage.py migrate' to apply them.
2018-11-18 15-00-02 PST Mihaela it's not empty 2018-11-20 08-47-24 PST Mihaela i think ill be able to commit and screensht later today 2020-09-25 13-30-33 PDT Mihaela did they go into specifics? 2018-11-27 16-10-15 PST Mihaela lol an error 2018-11-29 13-28-14 PST Mihaela BTW if it's not too much of a bother can you zip me a thread with moderation buttons 2018-11-17 16-20-51 PST Mihaela I can propose changes for html and css 2018-11-18 15-03-34 PST Mihaela or 2018-11-30 18-27-31 PST Mihaela or 2020-09-25 14-31-21 PDT Mihaela yay 2018-11-30 18-12-41 PST Mihaela base.html is borked for me 2018-11-25 17-16-01 PST Mihaela there will probably be bugs 2018-11-26 12-43-55 PST Mihaela yes 2018-12-09 16-35-21 PST Mihaela where should I add the changes? main.css? I need to add comments and check mobile so it won't be today 2018-11-27 13-44-21 PST Mihaela rare unicorns like humble me 2020-08-11 07-12-44 PDT Mihaela I understand your concerns, I've just been in enough of touch situations and found a way out so I allow for some positive unknowns to come our way 2018-11-30 18-28-47 PST Mihaela but look at the element .forum-content 2018-11-26 12-00-24 PST Mihaela but it's still a lot slower 2018-11-30 18-36-29 PST Mihaela now after update its not there 2020-09-25 14-30-26 PDT Mihaela what ideas did I put inside your head? 2018-11-24 20-33-38 PST Mihaela I had a plan to just do some simple touch ups but it escalated lol 2018-11-28 14-29-07 PST Mihaela so I'll do that for header area for example 2018-11-23 10-25-32 PST Mihaela count me in 2018-11-25 17-37-44 PST Mihaela already? 2018-11-18 15-05-07 PST Mihaela $ git checkout forum3
error: pathspec 'forum3' did not match any file(s) known to git.
2018-11-28 16-34-43 PST Mihaela btw I animated the main forums logo 2020-03-28 14-37-36 PDT Mihaela I thought the possesion is without the apostrophe 2018-11-30 18-25-50 PST Mihaela I need backend to take care of that 2018-11-30 18-15-38 PST Mihaela np about the conflict 2018-11-25 17-43-58 PST Mihaela there are ones with the plus + 2018-11-23 18-52-09 PST Mihaela I edited the comment-list.html a lot 2020-03-28 14-36-21 PDT Mihaela do you mean to bolden it within text on the site? 2018-11-25 17-40-04 PST Mihaela maybe there's a more generic one we can use BW only 2018-11-17 16-33-28 PST Mihaela why is the emoji showing on all posts and even in view mode? 2020-07-13 07-02-58 PDT Mihaela Marc said he still needs a lot of clarifications about what needs to be done, so he can't estimate before that, and you mentioned that it might be done with a cap, Marc said GSoC or Outreachy (BTW in that case I propose that Inkscape also pays the mentor in addition to Outreachy). So that seems to be going in its own pace.
What is left to do with Bryce and SFC is to start the convo about fundraising. Given that this topic isn't new and there might be some friction from SFC maybe simply asking for their legal templates isn't a good idea. We need to fix the relationship first and clear the air. Vectors have tasked me with all things Fundraising and I'd love to help Bryce with SFC. Maybe we can arrange a meeting that would be introductory to me from SFC, as a designated Fundraising Inkscape person. I could get a feel for their fears and show them how we could collaborate in a way that is pleasant to both sides. If it really was just an issue of lack of proper communication they could see having a dedicated position as a good sign.
All this isn't really aimed at you, I should be going to Bryce with it. I don't know how comfortable you are about me revealing to Bryce I've heard things went in the past. Should I just email Bryce and tell him that as a designated person I'd like for him to set up an introductory meeting with SFC? 2020-03-28 14-46-33 PDT Mihaela they haven't been sleeping for days to get this to work and write the initial doc 2018-11-23 15-00-58 PST Mihaela dont worry me neither lol 2018-11-26 13-12-12 PST Mihaela so I can see them lcoally 2018-11-29 13-45-46 PST Mihaela I already set it up for myself locally 2018-11-27 11-53-41 PST Mihaela to cut out all the steps that can be automated 2018-11-29 13-56-42 PST Mihaela it's better we focus on those templates 2018-11-18 15-35-54 PST Mihaela hopefully I'll catch some time during xmas holidays 2020-09-25 14-41-32 PDT Mihaela do you expect most will be for the changes? 2018-11-25 18-01-24 PST Mihaela and a screenshots so I can see about the emoji position 2020-09-25 13-58-24 PDT Mihaela what do you mean? 2018-11-26 12-06-23 PST Mihaela The following extra packages will be installed:
libmpdec2 libpython3.6-minimal libpython3.6-stdlib python3.6-minimal
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2018-11-26 12-13-50 PST Mihaela is that done now? 2018-11-17 15-54-35 PST Mihaela what are the numbers in the footer of each post on the left? 2020-09-25 13-21-19 PDT Mihaela here? 2018-11-26 12-12-09 PST Mihaela $ pip3 --version
pip 1.5.4 from /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages (python 3.4)
2020-09-25 14-49-40 PDT Mihaela anticipate what their objections might be before you reveal your proposal, so when the questions come up you have a ready answer, the answer will most likely be one of those things I just listed above 2018-11-23 19-05-55 PST Mihaela I dont like the web ide view much 2020-03-28 14-20-06 PDT Mihaela rocket won't let me attacht odt 2018-11-27 15-28-01 PST Mihaela what is the template responsible for first gallery comment? 2018-11-23 18-57-01 PST Mihaela comment-list.html 2020-09-25 13-57-01 PDT Mihaela I've learned from other examples that it's possible to change the culture: by first very clearly understanding the problem and having everyone standing behind the change, then come up with changes that would fix what you've observed to be wrong, then enforce those so super diligently and without exception 2018-12-09 16-22-24 PST Mihaela they should be :p 2018-11-29 13-48-01 PST Mihaela I already a local folder with some options to compile css from sass, so I make it to output the forum.css into the local repo in the right location 2018-11-26 12-13-37 PST Mihaela the last line 2018-11-18 15-16-48 PST Mihaela at the end it repeats about the secretkey 2020-08-01 10-22-59 PDT Mihaela websiteNextPartial.pdf (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/jATrnyFLECBSjgfie/websiteNextPartial.…) 2018-11-26 11-53-28 PST Mihaela I'll be doing some fixes now and let you know when I'm done 2018-11-27 15-40-53 PST Mihaela but now I don't know what else it might affect 2018-11-27 13-26-54 PST Mihaela :banana: the only thing missing is the dancing banana 2018-11-29 13-11-30 PST Mihaela and subsequently if you add some CSS to it that follows a different rule, then if I edit and compile with my changes it will change your spacing as well 2018-11-26 12-38-37 PST Mihaela done requirements 2018-11-25 17-16-42 PST Mihaela np 2018-11-26 13-03-03 PST Mihaela I have no idea what was happening, I was just along for the ride watching out a window 2018-11-26 12-11-46 PST Mihaela yes I seem to have pip3 2018-11-23 18-50-19 PST Mihaela don't know which approach to use 2018-11-29 14-09-50 PST Mihaela is there some doc I can read? 2018-11-30 18-16-04 PST Mihaela I know how to merge the code in meld 2018-11-26 12-10-07 PST Mihaela I tried it 2018-11-18 15-20-39 PST Mihaela I haven't done anything for the forum yet 2020-09-25 14-01-19 PDT Mihaela I thought those were kinda external experiences 2018-11-30 18-17-22 PST Mihaela I can learn that some other day 2018-11-27 16-44-17 PST Mihaela File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/lib/python3.6/site-packages/haystack/utils/loading.py", line 97, in ensure_defaults
raise ImproperlyConfigured("The key '%s' isn't an available connection." % alias)
django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: The key 'forums' isn't an available connection.
2020-03-29 17-55-00 PDT Mihaela Here you go if you want to take a look, although I don't think they'll be updating the English version much, they're swamped with organizing stuff and responding to requests. I'll take a note though and push any changes when I can. 2018-11-30 18-20-47 PST Mihaela it was basically the duplicated sidebar 2018-11-30 18-16-58 PST Mihaela i go through terminal 2020-09-25 14-15-08 PDT Mihaela what does Bryce get out of all this 2018-11-26 17-05-13 PST Mihaela only did thread styles today 2018-11-30 18-19-16 PST Mihaela i pushed 2018-11-30 18-15-21 PST Mihaela I see a shitload of forums now 2018-11-27 13-44-39 PST Mihaela :unicorn: 2018-11-30 18-24-42 PST Mihaela I just need to adjust css, its easy 2020-07-13 14-42-36 PDT Mihaela What's the procedure/elections to come on Board anyway? 2018-11-17 16-12-08 PST Mihaela maybe include some reply levels 2018-11-26 12-43-18 PST Mihaela downloading some media 2018-11-30 18-26-05 PST Mihaela output a class on the container or something when sidebar is or isn't there 2018-11-18 15-09-21 PST Mihaela still the same 2018-11-26 12-33-32 PST Mihaela virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python3.6 ~/virtualenvs/venv_devopspy 2018-11-27 11-45-07 PST Mihaela why instead? 2018-11-30 18-30-53 PST Mihaela .forum-list 2018-11-17 16-20-38 PST Mihaela can you send me the template for the thread 2018-11-17 16-20-19 PST Mihaela yes I expect you can get some co-maintainers from the community 2018-11-18 15-02-11 PST Mihaela * remotes/origin/forums3
2018-11-23 14-56-50 PST Mihaela comment list 2018-11-27 16-23-28 PST Mihaela you'll have to integrate some logic there right? 2020-08-11 14-24-26 PDT Mihaela rephrase it from the perspective of What's in it for me, from the perspective of the potential patron? reading it 2018-11-28 14-26-36 PST Mihaela what does block do? `{% block "container" %}`, `{% block "side" %}` I need to rearrange base forum layout, put header stuff in header element, get main content out of, how does that affect that code? 2018-11-17 16-15-02 PST Mihaela is this example the most complex we can get? 2018-11-27 16-06-33 PST Mihaela they seem to be square on other comments 2018-11-26 12-22-44 PST Mihaela how is that called? 2018-11-25 17-39-50 PST Mihaela is that an image from an existing gallery? 2018-11-23 19-19-14 PST Mihaela ok I committed 2020-09-25 14-24-27 PDT Mihaela that's what everyone expects of it anyway 2018-11-17 16-15-23 PST Mihaela because some features may rely on the markup to be there 2018-11-26 13-11-07 PST Mihaela sure 2018-12-14 09-44-13 PST Mihaela the problem is I'm not quite sure what his goal was with some of it, I already looked before and thought I would approve but I'd like to get feedback from him and suggest what CSS to use so we both understand it, I'll adjust my methods if they're too confusing 2018-11-18 15-03-07 PST Mihaela git checkout -b remotes/origin/forum3 2018-11-29 13-12-22 PST Mihaela I now have them all with 2 2018-11-18 12-57-24 PST Mihaela it didn't go without problems: 2018-11-18 15-12-22 PST Mihaela ```
File "/var/www/html/inkscape-web/pythonenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", line 113, in __init__
raise ImproperlyConfigured("The SECRET_KEY setting must not be empty.")
django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: The SECRET_KEY setting must not be empty.
* DONE
Retrieving translations...
Already on 'live'
Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/live'.
HEAD is now at f8e8c55 Merge branch 'master' into live
CommandError: This script should be run from the Django Git checkout or your project or app tree, or with the settings module specified.
Updating inkscape-web log...
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Username for 'https://gitlab.com':
``` 2018-11-17 16-02-45 PST Mihaela Screen Shot 2018-11-18 at 01.00.33-fullpage.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/EtbzvRAsPAyadxeQ7/Screen%20Shot%20201…) 2018-11-30 18-20-53 PST Mihaela I deleted that 2018-11-27 13-58-40 PST Mihaela why 2018-11-17 16-06-02 PST Mihaela yes it's good to include larger samples, sometimes they can destroy layout so it's good to test 2018-11-17 16-01-00 PST Mihaela BTW i see this in contents.css 2020-09-25 15-08-24 PDT Mihaela ok teacher must go get sth to eat, talk amongst yourselves 2018-11-17 16-15-35 PST Mihaela I have to know if I'm to do some cleaning up 2018-11-26 12-03-18 PST Mihaela it does 2018-11-24 20-35-21 PST Mihaela I should have it solved soon, but I'll have to go out soon 2018-11-18 14-59-36 PST Mihaela I can bring it back 2018-11-26 13-03-13 PST Mihaela the screenshot is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge 2018-11-26 12-42-36 PST Mihaela 1131 static files copied to '/var/www/html/inkscape-web/data/static'.
Copied static files from pythonenv to local static
2018-11-20 08-54-37 PST Mihaela do send but its no hurry, id like to get feedback first from people 2020-09-25 14-51-57 PDT Mihaela when you're in a meeting, don't ever give up before you've got a satisfying answer to the meeting topics. Obviously define the topics up front and what the desired outcomes are 2018-11-28 16-33-44 PST Mihaela :nerd: 2018-11-25 18-00-59 PST Mihaela yes if it won't be on live tomorrow 2018-11-27 15-49-02 PST Mihaela I see two are two separate things, Gallery the old, and the forum gallery 2020-09-25 13-54-34 PDT Mihaela maybe it would be a tad different in freedom software, in a way that it wouldn't be an open position, you'd still recruit from people who come forward on their own, but you wouldn't assign them randomly into roles, and you'd give them to do what is appropriate for them. You'd still need good leadership which is hard to find, even companies struggle to find when they offer lots of money 2018-11-23 15-20-16 PST Mihaela in normal pronounciation 2018-11-17 16-16-37 PST Mihaela oh that's a lot to do from scratch 2018-11-18 14-52-16 PST Mihaela I had to enter key ssh yes when I did git pull 2020-07-13 15-25-28 PDT Mihaela BTW it's come up in the website revamp we might be considering a different CMS. I know it's your baby, you've put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into it. How do you feel about this? You should be given several medals for the work you put into it. I don't want you to wrongly feel like it isn't appreciated. 2020-03-28 14-34-53 PDT Mihaela good point 2018-11-27 13-14-12 PST Mihaela you talking about sth else? 2018-11-25 18-17-33 PST Mihaela and there are probably different threads, cases that people see, anonymous, mods etc that all need to look acceptable 2018-11-17 16-08-26 PST Mihaela the user images are quite big, maybe make them smaller? 2018-11-23 18-50-27 PST Mihaela planned to hack it through interface 2018-11-18 14-55-49 PST Mihaela same problem 2018-11-30 18-25-41 PST Mihaela I can't tell parent to react according to some of children missing 2018-11-26 12-08-10 PST Mihaela why d? 2018-11-27 13-51-14 PST Mihaela so you can easily switch between styles, combinations of templates and css 2020-09-25 14-41-12 PDT Mihaela gather info from everyone Bryce included 2018-11-23 15-10-55 PST Mihaela I'd need to read and think more to see about Croatian, but it's definitely synthetic and not analytic 2020-09-25 14-13-22 PDT Mihaela transgress? 2018-11-26 12-14-44 PST Mihaela do I have to do that last command always for local inky? 2018-11-23 19-09-20 PST Mihaela eccelente! 2018-12-01 09-06-49 PST Mihaela ohai, sorry about last night had to leave in a hurry 2018-11-26 12-00-07 PST Mihaela I can share folders 2018-11-20 08-44-01 PST Mihaela but somrone has to test for real 2020-09-25 14-15-26 PDT Mihaela does he hope to get something? 2018-11-18 15-33-20 PST Mihaela ubuntu 14.04 2020-08-11 06-59-08 PDT Mihaela I know we discussed this already, but I'd prefer to just do the work and bother Bryce to do the admin :D 2018-11-30 18-00-22 PST Mihaela CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in forums/templates/forums/base.html
2018-11-17 16-11-55 PST Mihaela I see each post is an ul 2018-11-23 19-38-19 PST Mihaela I added HTML comments to template so it's easier to navigate around it, you can remove them once we're done if it's too much for you 2020-07-12 10-09-56 PDT Mihaela Hello! I hope you're on the mend from yesterday! I was only participating and it was tiring, you're probably completely exhausted. Michele offered to lead some parts or rooms for you if you like.
Anyway, I wanted to ask about what happened yesterday with devs helping out with the purpose task? I thought it would be discussed on the Board meeting if there was time, or later if it didn't fit, but everyone acted as if they didn't know about it.
And Bryce seems out of the loop about what was agreed about the Multipage support. If the Board needed to approve why wasn't it on the agenda? Did something happen in the meantime I don't know about?
Why did you act like you never got clarifications about branding before? I put in a lot of effort into that several years ago, did really nothing get through you past the cattle branding?
2018-11-20 08-59-36 PST Mihaela to forum people the most important thing is to make life easier for users and admins 2020-03-28 14-41-47 PDT Mihaela yes, connector is also on the snorkel mask 2018-11-23 18-51-24 PST Mihaela I'm creating the Issue now, but wanted to include the screenshot, but css not ready yet 2018-11-26 12-53-23 PST Mihaela can't add attachments 2020-09-25 14-46-24 PDT Mihaela so if a leader emerges who appears strong enough to beat the opposition and the leaders' proposal kinda aligns with their opinions they will follow in a heart beat 2018-11-29 13-47-05 PST Mihaela I haven't tried it that way before but I don't expect I'd need to refactor your code to make it work, because css is within sass spec 2018-11-29 14-10-52 PST Mihaela sorry I'm overbearing :bear: 2018-11-18 14-55-44 PST Mihaela I did that too earlier 2018-11-26 11-58-10 PST Mihaela I'm not sure if I'd know how to do that 2018-11-29 13-45-59 PST Mihaela you stick with css 2020-09-25 14-29-38 PDT Mihaela good work! 2018-11-23 19-04-22 PST Mihaela I committed already 2018-11-26 12-19-23 PST Mihaela unpacking django..... 2018-11-23 15-07-36 PST Mihaela because it's a different strategy 2020-09-25 14-38-51 PDT Mihaela it's the problem of not having enough skills in the project to keep it afloat 2018-11-27 13-02-56 PST Mihaela I'm not done, can't do all in one day 2019-01-31 23-55-37 PST Mihaela that wasn't the one, there was a much longer one, where issues from other threads were collected 2020-09-25 14-29-58 PDT Mihaela you're definitely not just a dev :D 2020-09-25 14-38-22 PDT Mihaela often it was Bryce who contradicted me 2018-11-26 12-28-18 PST Mihaela Collecting python-dateutil==2.7.3 (from -r requirements.txt (line 3))
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2018-11-23 14-56-15 PST Mihaela can you send me a zip of processed code of a page like the last time? 2018-11-30 18-24-23 PST Mihaela this is a big decision 2018-11-29 13-51-19 PST Mihaela I haven't stumbled upon anyone doing sass with me 2020-09-25 14-01-55 PDT Mihaela oh g 2019-01-31 23-53-21 PST Mihaela BTW do we still have that forum thread with forum improvements listed? I can't find it and I don't think we solved the bugs listed there 2018-11-27 13-56-26 PST Mihaela I understand, we probably won't get to that point though, I was just curious 2020-09-25 14-01-07 PDT Mihaela wait, those devs, were they complaining about being treated in Inkscape? 2018-11-29 13-55-49 PST Mihaela in python? 2018-11-26 12-05-13 PST Mihaela A plain backport of *just* Python 3.6. System extensions/Python libraries may or may not work.
Don't remove Python 3.5 from your system - it will break.
More info: https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/python-3.6
Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
2020-09-25 13-40-37 PDT Mihaela role? define 2018-11-18 14-52-20 PST Mihaela it worked 2018-11-17 16-24-21 PST Mihaela how to I del database? I don't remember doing that before for inkscape 2020-09-25 14-13-08 PDT Mihaela you officially have the contract with SFC so they look at you as legitimate 2018-11-23 15-06-43 PST Mihaela those are different types of languages, I forgot the names but apparently there are two categories 2018-11-30 18-19-37 PST Mihaela I move the whole sidebar code to be below the content 2018-11-23 19-48-59 PST Mihaela is there a special layout css file for @media queries 2020-09-25 14-44-51 PDT Mihaela ok they'll get to it 2018-11-26 13-03-39 PST Mihaela Screen Shot 2018-11-26 at 22.02.17-fullpage.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/AnLKzSxwo6hFqTqcj/Screen%20Shot%20201…) 2018-11-26 12-01-01 PST Mihaela I can do these fixes the "manual" way 2018-11-25 18-04-58 PST Mihaela maybe you can also swap it with a more neutral one 2018-12-01 09-46-41 PST Mihaela sorry mutitasking 2018-11-27 11-48-54 PST Mihaela I don't even know who is interested in css 2018-11-17 16-18-01 PST Mihaela will you release it back to them so they can use the improved code? 2018-11-23 15-05-19 PST Mihaela no 2018-11-29 18-45-49 PST Mihaela I just added the subforum title below the main forum header 2018-11-23 19-41-28 PST Mihaela I thought names were only for form elements 2018-11-18 15-16-26 PST Mihaela I restored from trash and that is what I get 2018-12-07 10-50-56 PST Mihaela long username 2018-11-27 16-06-19 PST Mihaela user images for the first comment aren't square 2018-11-24 20-38-02 PST Mihaela padding 20px for example on some page container, or any container 2018-11-20 08-52-12 PST Mihaela i just cant imagine post list 2018-11-27 13-08-26 PST Mihaela esp mobile 2018-11-27 16-11-57 PST Mihaela no hurry! 2018-11-26 11-54-50 PST Mihaela and are you sure it would work? 2020-08-11 14-41-44 PDT Mihaela Hello. I am a Freedom Software programmer who has worked on the Inkscape project with great dedication for a number of years.
In addition to adding new features, adjusting user interfaces, fixing bugs, and refactoring Python Extensions I am also the primary developer of the Inkscape website.
I believe in focusing on user needs and that users are best served when we as developers depend on our users for our jobs. As a volunteer I try my best to help users and fix issues that affect many users, but with this Patreon I'm hoping to expand that further.
I pledge myself to [insert what perks your patreon supporters get, hours per week? articles? support questions?]. Your support will enable me to dedicate more of my work life to Inkscape.
As part of the Freedom Software community Inkscape is in need of dedicated supporters to be able to fulfill its users' needs. [Please also consider donating to the project directly as well as supporting individual developers.] 2018-11-27 13-35-15 PST Mihaela yes 2018-11-26 12-32-34 PST Mihaela lib/python3.4 2018-11-26 12-15-37 PST Mihaela Your configuration specifies to merge with the ref 'forums3'
from the remote, but no such ref was fetched.
2020-09-25 14-42-47 PDT Mihaela what does slow look like? 2018-11-30 18-37-40 PST Mihaela I don't have /media/ 2018-11-27 11-39-55 PST Mihaela I think you should post any design/UX request as tagged issues on GitLab so we can point people to them 2020-09-25 14-40-44 PDT Mihaela I definitely think you should plan to do something about the Board 2018-11-27 13-24-16 PST Mihaela I'll investigate :nerd: 2018-11-26 12-56-08 PST Mihaela there is no interface to add attachments 2018-11-20 08-50-24 PST Mihaela other pages? 2020-03-28 14-19-47 PDT Mihaela here's what I have so far, this bit is crucial, about how to assemble it, I used Record changes, we're still piecing the English translation, lots of people working on it at the same time 2018-11-23 19-36-56 PST Mihaela ah good to know 2018-11-26 12-37-18 PST Mihaela source ./pythonenv/bin/activate
2020-03-28 14-54-40 PDT Mihaela https://www.isinnova.it/easy-covid19-eng/ 2018-11-18 14-54-25 PST Mihaela too long 2018-11-20 08-50-48 PST Mihaela boring topic list lol
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2020-10-08 06-22-47 PDT Martin Owens :thumbup: Great 2020-06-08 07-09-28 PDT Martin Owens :thumbsup: 2020-06-23 16-03-28 PDT Martin Owens I'll need to schedule some time to work on that. I hope a delay is ok. 2020-11-30 08-48-20 PST Martin Owens Great. It's all go on the release front at the moment :-) 2020-05-28 02-34-58 PDT Martin Owens It will route, but test test test your workflow gently down stream... 2020-04-28 08-25-30 PDT Martin Owens email sent 2020-11-30 08-46-31 PST Martin Owens I should add that Feature Freeze for Inkscape 1.1 is tomorrow, so no new features for Inkscape 1.1, but this doesn't stop features being completed for 1.2 and delivering a developer cut to you test out or use in production. 2020-11-17 09-52-31 PST Martin Owens Invest some buzwords and see if there's a business week article that'll back you up ;-) 2020-12-01 09-35-41 PST Martin Owens Sent by email 2019-12-23 09-40-25 PST Martin Owens I see a way forwards, the task for me is to figure out how to design the data stored so it doesn't conflict with svg itself. 2020-04-28 08-44-35 PDT Martin Owens Yes, this is the first installment sort of level. To keep things small and the risk minimal. 2019-12-23 18-10-37 PST Martin Owens I actually upgraded the right angled path tool this year. The real tricks will come after the first steps when it comes to improving the auto router. 2020-12-01 09-42-14 PST Martin Owens Correction sent 2019-12-23 09-46-35 PST Martin Owens How would you see the files being opened in other tools? 2020-05-07 09-58-53 PDT Martin Owens If you only have one pen 😅 2020-10-08 05-35-48 PDT Martin Owens I'm sure you can imagine that it's hard to guess exactly how long it might take. If say 3 other companies all join up and want the same thing, this is going to go much faster than say if it's just yourselves. So speed isn't dependent on just what yourselves do but somewhat on what everyone wants together. 2020-04-28 08-42-17 PDT Martin Owens 2- The user can create new shapes, but will have to manually add points via the xml editor 2020-06-30 23-42-27 PDT Martin Owens Up for it! 2020-05-05 11-22-03 PDT Martin Owens A cheque would be good. You can send it to 35 Fuller St, Boston, MA, 02124 2019-12-23 18-11-25 PST Martin Owens also may I applaud yourself for trying to contribute to inkscape even though you're not a current user. This shows real generosity or vision (delete where appropriate) 2020-06-23 12-36-57 PDT Martin Owens I'll rebase the work today and try and get it into master. I take it you may need some snapping on the node hitting? 2020-06-26 12-56-13 PDT Martin Owens Absolutely. 2020-04-28 08-45-46 PDT Martin Owens :thumbsup: 2020-06-26 00-49-52 PDT Martin Owens I decided on squares instead of X for the connectors. Actually slightly bigger than the center point. 2020-10-09 11-43-16 PDT Martin Owens It's good, does outlook just do the calendar or is it the video chat too? 2020-06-28 07-47-42 PDT Martin Owens It's also merged. So this work will be in inkscape 1.1 2020-11-17 09-48-04 PST Martin Owens Thanks for the update, I've got a more professional looking patreon (graphics, videos etc) on the way too 2020-09-14 07-49-35 PDT Martin Owens Good to know the scope of the project you're thinking about too, I think this is the first time I've seen the scale of the approval. 2020-05-05 11-32-36 PDT Martin Owens Always the way to do it. 2020-10-08 06-18-07 PDT Martin Owens Sure. What time is good for you guys? 2020-05-28 02-31-09 PDT Martin Owens Windows is the one thing that isn't automatic, Linux and Mac have builders. 2020-11-17 09-52-15 PST Martin Owens Such people listen to their friends, rather than their workers. It's all about networking. 2020-10-12 07-36-51 PDT Martin Owens Attempting to join now 2020-05-05 11-22-51 PDT Martin Owens Thanks Chris, this will be interesting. 2020-11-17 09-50-02 PST Martin Owens Management are so often blinded by new ways of doing things. Are they MBAs? 2019-12-24 09-06-29 PST Martin Owens Live path effects could be a way to do it, although the main developer of most of the LPEs is currently burned out. That has me be a bit cautious. Although removing the current connector tool completely would be interesting, I wonder if people would get mad. 2020-11-30 08-37-08 PST Martin Owens I'm not sure; I don't have a credit card clearing house, but I'm also not sure what banks think about this kind of transfer. 2020-04-28 08-43-43 PDT Martin Owens My title is "Senior Free Software Contractor, Boston", I've got a lot of experience with Inkscape and sit on the Inkscape board. But the contract is with me as a person, not Inkscape (which is a charity and so can't be contracted) 2020-12-01 09-24-31 PST Martin Owens Invoice to Synopsys? 2020-05-15 07-43-53 PDT Martin Owens @chrispitude The project wants to re-develop connectors to be a Live path effect 2020-05-15 07-43-58 PDT Martin Owens Like these 2020-10-12 07-35-00 PDT Martin Owens Hmm looks like the zimezone failed, it said 6:30am 2020-05-28 03-30-09 PDT Martin Owens And this instructional video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNykzg4Mxwo 2020-05-28 02-32-44 PDT Martin Owens The MR is mostly just internal Inkscape stuff, if you waited for that it could be another 3 years before you see the feature (and I see the end of the contract) better to get you a custom build you can test out and then be happy with. 2020-11-18 08-10-14 PST Martin Owens Right, I have jabiertxof (spain) on my side who can help out getting some of this delivered, we'll have to make sure we get the deliverables in order. 2020-04-28 07-41-43 PDT Martin Owens In the example video, it's attaching to the outer edge. 2020-05-15 07-44-32 PDT Martin Owens The idea is that in this framework the connectors would gain a lot from being "instantly" updated and much of the code for handling the line -redrawing would be taken care of. 2020-05-28 02-36-16 PDT Martin Owens No 2020-05-28 02-36-57 PDT Martin Owens The above merge request page links to this "pipeline" page https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/pipelines/146188056 on this pipeline page you see on the left hand side "Build" appimage / linux and mac. 2020-10-08 05-34-20 PDT Martin Owens The difference is that the company would get a shout out on the videos. 2020-05-15 07-43-55 PDT Martin Owens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jasNo_qF6Y4 2020-09-28 03-28-31 PDT Martin Owens This sounds like a plan and let me know if there are any details you need questions answered for. My wake times have changed and I'm usually awake between 4am and 4pm EST (I know, it's odd) 2020-05-24 12-26-00 PDT Martin Owens @chrispitude Have you been able to download and try the functionality in the merge request? (you might not know how to do this, let me know) https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/1994 2020-11-18 08-07-03 PST Martin Owens Right, remind me what the time was on the original proposal? 2020-11-17 10-03-46 PST Martin Owens Keep up the good work and thank you for working on our mutual behalf. 2020-05-28 02-41-43 PDT Martin Owens The creation part, it's a copy and paste type thing. I can make a video if you want. 2020-10-07 03-14-45 PDT Martin Owens Not entirely poinless, the work goes into the commons. 2020-05-28 02-37-59 PDT Martin Owens You use the artefacts (downloads) in the pipeline builds like this AppImage one https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/553345193/artifacts/browse 2020-05-28 02-40-23 PDT Martin Owens :thumbsup: do test the routing, I have a feeling in my waters it might be picking the wrong angle to start. 2020-09-14 07-52-29 PDT Martin Owens Assuming success; Do you think you and your company would be ok with a video interview, sort of going through what you're contracting for and how you were able to grapple with this kind of open source type contracting situation. 2020-11-18 08-15-20 PST Martin Owens Understood 2020-09-28 03-22-52 PDT Martin Owens That's somewhat expected. Considering the depth of the request, do you have a full specification? 2020-07-14 15-32-25 PDT Martin Owens That sounds positive. 2020-06-26 00-50-02 PDT Martin Owens But I think you'll like the movement fix. 2020-05-05 11-32-17 PDT Martin Owens We have no trust network and you'll notice I've not asked for references (and nor have yourselves ;-)) 2020-05-28 03-29-46 PDT Martin Owens You will need this svg file: https://inkscape.org/~doctormo/%E2%98%85symbols-creator 2020-05-28 03-57-40 PDT Martin Owens Turns out there are windows builds 2020-10-07 03-17-34 PDT Martin Owens The second is your org could organise a public fund raiser. Your goals are known, your budget is known and there are multiple companies that could pool their money into a single contract. This is fairly radical though as not many traditional companies have run kickstarters :-D 2020-10-07 03-14-07 PDT Martin Owens So often the way :rolling_eyes: is this the end of the road? 2021-01-04 09-53-10 PST Martin Owens @chrispitude We're still in a waiting pattern so far. (although good to get the holiday season out the way) 2021-01-08 10-08-43 PST Martin Owens Understood. My plan was to get back to you when we were in production mode, to make sure the details are correct. Although I'm confident enough in the big picture scope. 2021-03-25 08-06-18 PDT Martin Owens Not a sausage. 2021-03-25 08-06-44 PDT Martin Owens We should double check the payment details, do you know how they might have sent it? 2021-03-26 08-43-16 PDT Martin Owens Indeed 2021-03-26 08-42-46 PDT Martin Owens lol, I'm planning my schedule today. You're not the only company that decided to wait until end of march to kick off a project ;-) 2021-03-26 08-36-32 PDT Martin Owens It's just arrived, a cheque through the mail 2021-04-17 11-17-23 PDT Martin Owens Hi Chris. I've scheduled the work for after the 1.1 release, I had to do that because of the delay in all the payment stuff. Do you guys have a set of deadlines you're working to that I can schedule into? 2021-04-17 11-18-04 PDT Martin Owens I don't know if the videos I make would be helpful, I'm going to be reporting the work in those too. But happy to make specific updates via email, etc. 2021-04-17 11-25-13 PDT Martin Owens Great, I'll keep on the current tracks :-D I'm excited to start work on this. 2021-04-17 11-20-28 PDT Martin Owens The release is scheduled for the week of May 1st, let me know if you need to have work started before then. If so, I'll try and reschedule as best I can. 2021-04-17 11-26-04 PDT Martin Owens Oh and is it ok if I link to and or use the company logo/name to identify the people paying for the work? 2021-04-17 11-26-10 PDT Martin Owens (in the videos) 2021-04-17 11-51-01 PDT Martin Owens For reference, I'd put the logo and name in the place I currently say "PoliArt" https://youtu.be/Wevm-pw8wcA?t=26 2020-07-09 14-22-53 PDT Martin Owens 🍀 2019-12-23 09-41-31 PST Martin Owens The original design used a group and inside the group it had single point paths, these paths would create single point connections so long as the connector tool dug into the group. 2020-12-01 09-39-58 PST Martin Owens I can put it in the description of the work, but not the "who" part. Because Inkscape LLC is a 501.3c charity and paying me is not paying/donating to that etc. etc. 2020-05-05 10-33-32 PDT Martin Owens We should sign a short agreement to formalise it and pay whatever the upfront is. Then I work on it. 2020-03-29 15-36-28 PDT Martin Owens So a donation to Inkscape (the charity) would help in general move Inkscape forwards. But if you want specific work done, then the right thing to do is get a contractor (someone like me, but doesn't have to be me) to do the work on your behalf. This is a safer option because the project as a whole has it's own priorities and even if the contractor's work doesn't fit into Inkscape's project direction, you can still have the modified version with your own customisation. (freedom!) But hopefully it would also make it's way into Inkscape too. The best way to think of open source projects like Inkscape is as a specialised trade group. Different companies and individuals can come in and pay (or volunteer) to get specific stuff done. As example, if you want medicine, donating to to the The Red Cross is great, but won't get you medicine directly. 2020-05-04 07-49-31 PDT Martin Owens :thumbsup: 2020-03-29 15-31-02 PDT Martin Owens Hi, sorry for the delay. Let me refresh my memory... 2020-04-28 07-36-21 PDT Martin Owens Addendum: Good morning! 2020-11-18 08-13-56 PST Martin Owens Sounds good. 2020-05-28 03-59-18 PDT Martin Owens For example this windows build here: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/builds/32886325/job/s37ar… 2020-11-30 08-45-17 PST Martin Owens Cheques can work, are you able to issue cheques to spain if I get Jabiertxof involved? 2020-09-28 03-24-39 PDT Martin Owens Yes, that can help indigestion. 2020-05-05 11-45-05 PDT Martin Owens tbh I was up all night trying to stop the website downloads from melting down for Inkscape 1.0, *sigh* 2020-05-05 11-33-10 PDT Martin Owens Imagine a world where you could pick /anyone/ to fix a bug for you. 2020-10-07 03-19-17 PDT Martin Owens yes, https://patreon.com/doctormo 2020-05-05 11-31-55 PDT Martin Owens The amount is low, but it's also low risk. (for both of us) 2020-05-28 02-29-42 PDT Martin Owens Oh don't worry about it 2020-12-01 09-23-45 PST Martin Owens lol 2020-04-28 07-45-28 PDT Martin Owens I see it. I suspect that you need a fixed price rather than my hourly rate for this work. 2020-05-28 02-39-07 PDT Martin Owens This is my job. I'm a Free Software contractor in Boston. Most of my work is for Harvard and other local science labs and such. Some online stuff like this one. 2020-10-12 07-35-50 PDT Martin Owens Are you guys still online? 2020-04-28 07-41-27 PDT Martin Owens In visio, there are defined points on set shapes. 2020-11-18 08-14-12 PST Martin Owens Congratulations on your win. :-) 2020-06-30 23-52-37 PDT Martin Owens I sent you a reply via my new email address doctormo(a)geek-2.com let me know if it fails to get through or ends up in your spam. 2020-11-17 09-48-18 PST Martin Owens If you could review the text description in the mean time, that would be good. 2020-10-07 03-15-09 PDT Martin Owens You've got a couple of things you could do which might be "more radical" 2020-05-28 02-34-06 PDT Martin Owens It's a candidate yes, but you should test it. 2020-04-28 08-41-59 PDT Martin Owens 1- yes, multiple points per object, I won't change the center anchor. 2020-10-12 07-34-39 PDT Martin Owens hi 2020-05-28 02-35-11 PDT Martin Owens So if you have a linux machine, you don't need to build. 2020-05-28 02-57-22 PDT Martin Owens :-D 2020-05-28 02-38-17 PDT Martin Owens Oh don't worry about it. This is a small contract, I'm not going bust yet ;-) 2020-11-17 09-53-45 PST Martin Owens "Strategic micro-investment initiative" :-D 2020-10-07 03-16-19 PDT Martin Owens The first is, your company could become a patreon of mine for a very low cost. This wouldn't get you all work, but it would allow you to push me to fixing or implementing connector tools. This would be a "light touch" hedge. And I know a lot of management like a cheap hedge. 2020-12-15 08-58-02 PST Martin Owens Yeah we can wait. The system seems a bit corporate as they kept asking for company letter head :shrug: looks like it's on track now though 2020-05-28 02-29-58 PDT Martin Owens I just wanted to make sure you weren't waiting on me while I was waiting on you :-D 2020-04-28 07-54-42 PDT Martin Owens I DITn't, no 2020-06-26 00-49-22 PDT Martin Owens quick_peek_connector_improvements.gif (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/farrXXpb94EsFmNKB/quick_peek_connecto…) 2020-07-14 15-32-31 PDT Martin Owens Thanks for keeping me in the loop 2020-04-28 07-36-09 PDT Martin Owens I understand completely. 2020-11-18 08-06-32 PST Martin Owens Wow 2020-05-05 11-31-37 PDT Martin Owens I suspected that to be the case. 2020-12-01 09-23-36 PST Martin Owens Sounds good, I'm going to make you an invoice now and ask my accountant, I think this means I'd have to eat the tax myself. 2020-05-28 03-59-33 PDT Martin Owens It's the 7z format, so extract it and run from where-ever 2020-06-23 06-37-34 PDT Martin Owens Morning! 2020-06-26 12-57-02 PDT Martin Owens I'd like to sign off on this work soon. Let me know if you need help testing the branch, it should be available from the merge request pipeline. 2020-05-14 14-52-30 PDT Martin Owens I've put together a draft merge request for the requested feature: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/1994 2020-06-23 10-58-56 PDT Martin Owens That's so weird. I know the x is hard to hit, I even miss it on the video. 2020-05-28 02-32-00 PDT Martin Owens Great. So your deliverable is a windows build? 2020-10-07 03-20-27 PDT Martin Owens May the wind be at your back! 2020-04-28 07-56-19 PDT Martin Owens I can put together a simple first time contract for $500 to implement the connectors as seen in the video I posted (but in the new Inkscape code, and probably done better). That would be, you'd be able to hand make stencils with custom connectors. But it wouldn't include a great deal of custom user interfacing. 2019-12-23 09-38-45 PST Martin Owens Hi Chris! Thanks for joining me here. 2020-04-28 07-38-45 PDT Martin Owens So I've lost track of the feature you need to be honest. 2020-06-26 06-34-32 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'm committed to Inkscape because I need something that (1) runs local and (2) saves natively in SVG, but we can certainly learn from others 2020-11-18 08-08-53 PST Chris Papademetrious then figure out how to put the $4000 to best use 2020-07-09 06-35-42 PDT Chris Papademetrious making a pitch for follow-up work to my manager's manager next tuesday - wish me luck! 2020-05-28 02-39-45 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'll give 'er a spin and let you know how it goes 2020-06-30 09-55-35 PDT Chris Papademetrious hopefully copying/pasting invisible thingies is not the final production solution for my team - I hope you're up to follow-up work to shine it up for production use :) 2019-12-24 05-35-17 PST Chris Papademetrious I see some basic LPE information here (https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php?title=Creating_Live_Path_Effects), and this page (http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Paths-LivePathEffects.html) mentions the data storage aspect that you might be able to use. 2020-04-28 08-44-46 PDT Chris Papademetrious thank you!! I'll get on this now 2020-06-23 16-02-39 PDT Chris Papademetrious That would definitely help. I was trying to watch for visual indicator changes but I'm new to Inkscape and maybe I wasn't getting it right. 2020-05-05 11-32-51 PDT Chris Papademetrious we've been at the mercy of vendors like Microsoft and Adobe for so long, dealing with the same bugs for YEARS upon years 2020-04-28 07-39-23 PDT Chris Papademetrious oh np! it's the Visio-like connection point capability of being able to create multiple user-defined connection points on an object 2020-11-17 09-47-28 PST Chris Papademetrious my management are being idiots, I'm having to fight for $600/year 2019-12-24 05-20-21 PST Chris Papademetrious Thank you!! I've always admired Inkscape as a powerful and thoughtfully designed open-source tool. Internally, we are evaluating a change to our authoring toolchain and this motivated me to see how I could bring Inkscape into the picture. 2020-12-01 09-23-39 PST Chris Papademetrious wait wait wait wait waiHURRY UP 2020-05-15 06-31-38 PDT Chris Papademetrious re: the LPE statement, what is the future refactoring project you mention? 2020-06-23 07-40-48 PDT Chris Papademetrious actually I can host a webex meeting through my company and share my desktop, might be easier 2020-11-30 08-47-47 PST Chris Papademetrious I'll follow up with you when I have an update on payments to spain and/or the detailed spec 2020-05-28 02-39-20 PDT Chris Papademetrious that's very cool 2020-11-18 08-11-54 PST Chris Papademetrious then we all have a referenceable functional spec 2020-11-18 08-08-45 PST Chris Papademetrious I'm not sure, we'll probably need to have a short call with desktop sharing and chat about what we need from a high level 2020-12-01 09-10-44 PST Chris Papademetrious It's your choice, we just need an invoice to send to purchasing that you're comfortable with. :) 2020-06-26 06-33-12 PDT Chris Papademetrious and the rectangular routing!! 2020-11-30 08-45-41 PST Chris Papademetrious I hope to update the enhancement issue to represent precisely what we need this week 2020-11-17 09-47-34 PST Chris Papademetrious stay tuned. 2020-06-28 06-44-39 PDT Chris Papademetrious awesome, I'll go grab it! agreed on closing on this when we can 2020-12-01 09-39-06 PST Chris Papademetrious is it too much to have "Inkscape" put in there somewhere? 2020-12-15 09-24-33 PST Chris Papademetrious Hi Martin, I have fully described the behaviors that we need here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/793 2020-09-28 03-23-14 PDT Chris Papademetrious pretty much this: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/793 2020-10-08 05-50-27 PDT Chris Papademetrious this would be in place of continued Q/A in chat 2020-11-30 08-44-11 PST Chris Papademetrious maybe personal checks from me based on milestones? 2020-05-28 02-38-13 PDT Chris Papademetrious perfect 2020-12-01 09-40-23 PST Chris Papademetrious management will just see it as "Inkscape blah blah blah" 2020-05-05 11-22-58 PDT Chris Papademetrious it'll go out first thing tomorrow! and yes it will :) 2020-04-28 07-45-59 PDT Chris Papademetrious yes, and I'm afraid it's going to get me laughed out of my manager's manager's office but I need to try :) 2020-05-04 07-23-00 PDT Chris Papademetrious the proposal is being reviewed by my manager's manager now - I'll let you know when I have a response! 2020-04-28 07-56-02 PDT Chris Papademetrious DITA is an XML-based technical writing standard that has been around for 20 years, but is just (in the last 5 years) really starting to take over the technical writing industry 2020-05-15 06-29-12 PDT Chris Papademetrious very exciting to see signs of life, even if purely developmental at this point!! 2020-05-28 02-31-42 PDT Chris Papademetrious I have a linux box here at home, I can try it on there 2020-10-07 03-14-48 PDT Chris Papademetrious sorry to consume so much of your time :( 2020-05-28 02-37-04 PDT Chris Papademetrious oh!!! got it 2020-09-28 03-29-03 PDT Chris Papademetrious ok thanks :) 2020-05-05 11-23-53 PDT Chris Papademetrious and (2) I don't think it's enough $$$ for the work but I suspect it's something you want to see happen for the larger community 2020-11-18 08-14-20 PST Chris Papademetrious I am relieved!! 2020-05-28 02-38-32 PDT Chris Papademetrious is this your day job or just for fun? 2020-06-23 07-30-56 PDT Chris Papademetrious when I follow the video instructions using the windows build, my resulting symbol has the X point but the connector does not follow it 2020-09-28 03-23-39 PDT Chris Papademetrious it walks through the needed pieces of functionality 2020-10-08 05-16-34 PDT Chris Papademetrious 2. At the $50 and $100 levels, is there a rough timeframe where the connection point functionality might be completed? (very rough - a few months, a few years, etc.) 2020-11-18 08-11-32 PST Chris Papademetrious I can always edit that issue as needed to be our contract marching orders, then we mark it fixed for the community when the contract is complete 2020-11-18 08-06-33 PST Chris Papademetrious some folks recognized my name from the olden days (I've been here 20 years) 2020-12-01 09-25-45 PST Chris Papademetrious Synopsys, Inc.
690 East Middlefield Road
Mountain View, CA 94043
650-584-5000 2020-05-28 02-29-44 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'm on Windows 10 so I'll need to get something runnable for that 2020-04-28 07-37-55 PDT Chris Papademetrious *raises sixth cup of coffee* 2020-10-07 03-18-58 PDT Chris Papademetrious do you have a patreon page? 2020-10-08 05-15-26 PDT Chris Papademetrious 1. Is there a quantitative difference between the $50 and $100 Patreon levels? 2020-10-12 07-31-11 PDT Chris Papademetrious the webex is just desktop sharing and a phone call 2020-12-01 09-38-17 PST Chris Papademetrious thank you!! 2020-10-08 05-50-20 PDT Chris Papademetrious would you be willing to have a 10-minute-ish call with me and two other folks in my company who want to see Inkscape happen? 2020-05-28 02-37-57 PDT Chris Papademetrious thank you!! and sorry you were waiting on me 2020-10-07 03-13-32 PDT Chris Papademetrious soooo all the managers agreed to move forward with the contract, then their director took it to his management, and they immediately shot it down due to cost 2020-05-05 11-25-43 PDT Chris Papademetrious regardless, I'm happy to do what I can to convince my company to invest in making inkscape better as a technical drawing tool 2020-11-18 08-15-01 PST Chris Papademetrious for now, the action is with me to update the issue to accurately reflect what's needed 2020-10-07 03-14-05 PDT Chris Papademetrious oh, and they told us to reduce our visio license to the bare miminum required (can someone please explain to them that visio licenses are perpetual with no maintenance and you don't "reduce" them?) 2020-05-28 02-40-23 PDT Chris Papademetrious is there a UI for it, or XML-level messing about? 2020-05-05 11-10-18 PDT Chris Papademetrious Do you want to send me something formal, or do you consider your previous email good enough? What form of payment do you prefer? 2020-11-30 08-45-50 PST Chris Papademetrious ooo I'll have to check 2020-10-07 03-20-07 PDT Chris Papademetrious this is promising, thank you! let me see what I can do with it 2020-09-14 06-27-43 PDT Chris Papademetrious still waiting for approval for the $4k from way up the management chain - the big wheels turn the slowest! 2020-10-07 03-14-42 PDT Chris Papademetrious I will keep pushing internally, I am beyond frustrated, but I can only do what I can do 2020-04-28 08-28-14 PDT Chris Papademetrious to clarify two details, 1- this means multiple user-defined points per object, not a single user-defined point? and 2 - by pre-created objects, is this ONLY for template shapes, or can it be used on new shapes drawn by the user in the SVG? 2020-12-01 08-58-08 PST Chris Papademetrious 1. Corporate will be cutting checks to you for the contract work. They can't pay another person (in another country or not), so you would need to Paypal/etc. Jabiertxof from what you receive. 2020-04-28 07-34-54 PDT Chris Papademetrious Before I broach this topic with my management, can you give me an idea of the amount I'd need to ask for - let's say, if I was going to ask you to implement this? 2020-11-17 09-50-38 PST Chris Papademetrious yep, they're laser-focused on operating margins and stock price 2020-12-01 09-24-46 PST Chris Papademetrious yes, let me get the name and full address, hang on 2020-12-15 08-27-03 PST Chris Papademetrious My manager says it might take some time to add you as a vendor, and wanted to know if you preferred earlier payment via corporate credit card through Venmo or Cashapp? 2020-04-28 08-26-27 PDT Chris Papademetrious thank you! I will get this going today 2020-10-07 03-20-37 PDT Chris Papademetrious amen to that 2020-12-15 09-25-44 PST Chris Papademetrious Do you want me to try, or would you rather implement this according to how you feel it best integrates into the Inkscape authoring environment and underlying code structure? 2020-06-23 06-37-08 PDT Chris Papademetrious sorry I'm slammed, gonna work on this right now. 2020-11-30 08-01-43 PST Chris Papademetrious is it possible to pay you via corporate credit card? 2020-11-18 08-06-14 PST Chris Papademetrious so apparently they approved the $4000 after my displeasure worked its way up through management 2020-04-28 08-43-20 PDT Chris Papademetrious XML editing is how I'll have to do it for my own template shapes? 2020-05-28 02-29-12 PDT Chris Papademetrious I don't know but I will try! Sorry, we're in the middle of a release and things are nuts here. 2020-06-23 08-46-49 PDT Chris Papademetrious well that stinks, there's two linux build artifacts listed under the pull request, and they both fail when I attempt to run them 2020-10-07 03-17-01 PDT Chris Papademetrious it also might make them feel like they've negotiated for a better value 2020-12-01 09-03-34 PST Chris Papademetrious So what I need is an invoice for the $4000. It does not need to be detailed with timelines and such, but just to cover ourselves, Here is how you originally allocated it in July:
* Creator - $1,500
* Multi-jog - $1,000
* Humps (line avoid deformations) - $1,500 2020-10-08 05-14-36 PDT Chris Papademetrious some questions from my management: 2020-06-26 06-34-06 PDT Chris Papademetrious have you seen this before? pretty impressive for this type of work: https://app.diagrams.net/ 2020-12-15 09-25-10 PST Chris Papademetrious I am not familiar enough with Inkscape to know how to "fit" this into the existing Inkscape UI 2020-12-01 09-40-38 PST Chris Papademetrious just want to make sure the one word they're looking for is there 2020-05-28 02-33-43 PDT Chris Papademetrious is the PR above the final deliverable code state for the contract? 2020-04-28 08-28-32 PDT Chris Papademetrious (I don't know Inkscape's template/object features well enough to know this intuitively) 2020-04-28 07-42-36 PDT Chris Papademetrious with a link to a detailed enhancement request: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/793 2020-04-28 08-43-41 PDT Chris Papademetrious (this is okay for a first installment, I'm rolling all this out and I'm able to do that) 2020-11-17 09-52-59 PST Chris Papademetrious I'm spending some of my hard-earned reputation to get my wish 2020-04-28 07-42-14 PDT Chris Papademetrious link here: https://inkscape.org/forums/beyond/does-anyone-else-want-visio-like-connect… 2019-12-23 17-19-44 PST Chris Papademetrious I will need to learn how Inkscape handles right-angle connectors so I can be more helpful here. 2020-05-28 02-35-47 PDT Chris Papademetrious so clone the PR branch and follow the instructions? 2020-06-23 16-06-04 PDT Chris Papademetrious it's no problem, you've waited on me for quite a bit! 2020-05-28 02-39-59 PDT Chris Papademetrious OH - how do I create symbols with multiple connection points? 2019-12-24 05-22-47 PST Chris Papademetrious In the Attach Path LPE video (https://framadrive.org/s/MYoPQq2zPyUcbq0), the internal functionality of attaching a path to shape nodes is promising, but the user interface of creating a path then attaching it with copy/click gymnastics is not workable. In addition, I can't get the connector to stay right-angled when I move the shape around; the ends insist on doing curvy things. Nevertheless, is this LPE infrastructure one that we can use to store and recalculate the connectors? 2020-03-29 07-22-30 PDT Chris Papademetrious if I'm able to get my manager to approve a donation of some amount, would that help move this feature forward? 2020-05-28 02-32-05 PDT Chris Papademetrious yes 2020-12-15 08-59-07 PST Chris Papademetrious awesome 2020-05-28 02-34-56 PDT Chris Papademetrious okay, so I'll try to figure out how to build and test it on linux and provide you feedback 2020-06-23 08-56-08 PDT Chris Papademetrious which makes no sense since it's an AppImage and should have all dependencies 2020-12-15 08-27-28 PST Chris Papademetrious My gut tells me that you'd rather wait and get a full-price check, rather than a credit card payment with a percentage fee removed, but I figured I'd check 2020-05-07 08-59-51 PDT Chris Papademetrious check goes out today, darn kids stole my pen from my home office and it took me two days to find it! 2020-07-14 15-21-04 PDT Chris Papademetrious presentation went well today, he asked me to make business cost/benefit/risk slides and present to the next level up, that will happen next week 2020-11-17 09-49-22 PST Chris Papademetrious I'd be more than happy to do so! 2020-12-01 08-58-52 PST Chris Papademetrious 2. They have asked to be invoiced in the next 1-2 days, so they can pull it into this fiscal year's budget (which is very good, that leaves the door open next year for more work!). 2020-10-09 11-06-00 PDT Chris Papademetrious you should have an Outlook proposal at doctormo(a)geek-2.com, in case it does 2020-05-05 11-35-42 PDT Chris Papademetrious thanks for helping to make this happen 2020-12-01 08-57-20 PST Chris Papademetrious Hi Martin! I have some news... 2020-12-01 09-51-54 PST Chris Papademetrious perfect! 2021-01-08 10-06-44 PST Chris Papademetrious ok cool! just want to make sure the spec is clear, no further detail needed, etc. 2021-03-03 07-36-49 PST Chris Papademetrious hoping you get a check soon! 2021-03-25 06-02-12 PDT Chris Papademetrious Please tell me you've received payment by now? 2021-03-25 15-54-24 PDT Chris Papademetrious I will find out. 2021-03-26 08-43-08 PDT Chris Papademetrious When it rains, it pours?? 2021-03-26 08-39-15 PDT Chris Papademetrious Oh hooray!! I was just about to go off on a rant. :) 2021-03-26 08-39-31 PDT Chris Papademetrious Think you can have it done by Monday? 2021-03-26 08-39-43 PDT Chris Papademetrious (I kid, I kid!) 2021-04-17 11-00-16 PDT Chris Papademetrious My boss said I need to start reporting status back to management. 2021-04-17 11-00-20 PDT Chris Papademetrious So how does this work? :) 2021-04-17 11-23-46 PDT Chris Papademetrious I can provide links to them, and also summarize from a high level 2021-04-17 11-23-58 PDT Chris Papademetrious After May 1 is totally fine 2021-04-17 11-23-21 PDT Chris Papademetrious No set deadlines on our end 2021-04-17 11-23-33 PDT Chris Papademetrious In fact, the videos would be perfect for my management! 2021-04-17 11-29-14 PDT Chris Papademetrious I think so, but I will confirm 2021-04-17 11-32-01 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'll let you know by Monday. Thank you!! 2021-04-17 11-32-42 PDT Chris Papademetrious This is exciting for us too! Schematic work and technical drawings could be a very significant new area for Inkscape. 2020-11-18 08-15-09 PST Chris Papademetrious then we can meet to discuss 2020-10-12 07-31-14 PDT Chris Papademetrious we're on now 2020-09-28 03-26-51 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'll let you know how it goes, we'll probably need to write up something more formal and I can give a draft of that if you want 2020-06-23 07-31-12 PDT Chris Papademetrious if I copy and paste your example symbol with the same X point, the connector successfully follows the shape 2020-05-28 02-34-06 PDT Chris Papademetrious if so, does it support right-angled "route" connectors or just straight connectors? 2020-04-28 07-46-41 PDT Chris Papademetrious I would really like to see Inkscape find a place in the DITA technical writing community (not sure if you've heard of DITA before) 2020-05-28 02-36-55 PDT Chris Papademetrious speak slowly and use small words 2019-12-23 17-19-10 PST Chris Papademetrious My expectation would be that other tools render whatever the last state of the connector was in Inkscape. 2020-06-26 06-32-58 PDT Chris Papademetrious oooo I really like the fast update!! 2020-04-28 07-35-39 PDT Chris Papademetrious My management is ridiculously and distressingly unwilling to spend money, but I might be able to make the case for it. 2021-01-04 05-28-56 PST Chris Papademetrious Hi Martin! Is there anything I can do to help, or are you waiting for my company's payment to play out? 2020-04-28 08-45-47 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'm Chris Papademetrious, Allentown PA, technical writer and semiconductor product engineer 2020-06-23 08-55-55 PDT Chris Papademetrious Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" 2020-05-07 09-00-03 PDT Chris Papademetrious it was mixed in with their crayons, I guess I ought to buy more pens 2020-05-05 11-23-35 PDT Chris Papademetrious between you and me, (1) my management would not have gone for this if it were more $$$ 2020-05-05 11-20-38 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'm happy to just paypal or send a check for $100, if that works for you 2020-11-30 08-46-48 PST Chris Papademetrious aww dang :) 2020-10-12 07-36-16 PDT Chris Papademetrious yep! just started 2020-12-01 09-40-10 PST Chris Papademetrious understood, description is all that's needed 2020-09-28 03-22-15 PDT Chris Papademetrious sooo now I am getting pushback at the cost and the risk of not getting a fully suitable solution 2020-06-23 07-31-28 PDT Chris Papademetrious do you have a windows machine handy to try it? 2019-12-23 17-18-17 PST Chris Papademetrious I know almost nothing about Inkscape, so it's hard for me to suggest much. From what I understand, this LPE infrastructure allows you to store the LPE data in the Inkscape namespace where it's *not* a part of the SVG drawing itself, but then Inkscape renders the resulting path in the SVG drawing. We will eventually need to support connections with one or more 90-degree turns; does this dictate the use of a particular data structure from the beginning? 2020-05-05 11-34-15 PDT Chris Papademetrious exactly! so I think this will be a pretty good experience 2019-12-23 06-42-18 PST Chris Papademetrious The fact that Inkscape stores its data within the SVG file in its own namespace is a tremendous plus for technical drawing. Technical content is invariably under strict revision control, and having the source drawing document also be the output image file is highly valuable. 2020-12-01 09-10-11 PST Chris Papademetrious We can also note one or more of the functionality pieces from the enhancement request (https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/793) 2020-05-05 11-11-55 PDT Chris Papademetrious you tell me how you want it to work, this is my first time :) 2020-09-28 03-24-24 PDT Chris Papademetrious I might be able to assuage that concern with a pay-as-we-go contract for each piece 2020-05-05 10-04-04 PDT Chris Papademetrious Good news - I obtained approval! How do we proceed? 2020-06-23 07-40-52 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'll try the linux build 2020-05-28 02-31-02 PDT Chris Papademetrious oh okay!! I figured the PR was going through some elaborate review process and I'll just need to let it happen 2020-05-28 02-42-05 PDT Chris Papademetrious yes please :( 2020-11-18 08-06-40 PST Chris Papademetrious which means now we have to deliver :) 2020-04-28 08-00-08 PDT Chris Papademetrious Yes please, could you do that? You can email it to chrispy(a)synopsys.com and I'll pitch it to my management. 2020-11-17 09-55-20 PST Chris Papademetrious sigh. 2020-05-05 11-32-23 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'm also hoping it encourages the mindset for them to invest in improvements like this 2020-06-08 07-03-18 PDT Chris Papademetrious hey sorry for the delay - we just had a quarterly doc release go out so I've been buried in that! I have to do some branch cleanup today (I'm the owner) and then I'll get to testing the build! 2020-10-07 03-15-23 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'm all ears 2019-12-23 06-39-40 PST Chris Papademetrious Hi Martin, it's Chris! I'm happy to see interest in Visio-like connector capability, and I'm appreciative that you're taking the time to discuss it. On my side, I will start learning about Inkscape so I better understand how it's used for technical drawings. (I'm proficient with Visio but new to Inkscape.)
I think the functionality you showed in your prototype (adding connection points and connecting to them) would be quite an excellent first step, if that's not too big a piece. 2020-10-08 05-51-04 PDT Chris Papademetrious we would converge faster and be better informed via voice 2020-10-07 03-14-26 PDT Chris Papademetrious unfortunately yes, which also means the $500 they spent was pointless, but such is life 2020-05-05 11-35-56 PDT Chris Papademetrious and I need to stop talking to you because I've probably used up about $100 worth of your time by now :) 2020-06-23 08-56-25 PDT Chris Papademetrious $ ./Inkscape-ebe2ff6-x86_64.AppImage
Run experimental bundle that bundles everything
** (process:4493): WARNING **: 11:55:43.279: Units file /../../share/inkscape/ui/units.xml is missing: Failed to open file ?/../../share/inkscape/ui/units.xml?: No such file or directory
Gtk-Message: 11:55:43.399: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: 11:55:43.402: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Wrong __data_start/_end pair
Aborted (core dumped) 2020-12-15 09-26-07 PST Chris Papademetrious I would prefer you implement what is best, as long as the functionality pieces are all available in some form. 2019-12-23 17-22-41 PST Chris Papademetrious Hah, I started reading up on right-angle connectors and look what all the comments are about!! https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Connector_tool_tutorial 2020-05-28 02-42-20 PDT Chris Papademetrious otherwise you'll spend more time answering chat questions than making the video 2020-10-09 10-35-04 PDT Chris Papademetrious does Monday Oct 12 at 10:30am EDT work for you? 2020-11-18 08-10-53 PST Chris Papademetrious np, I can spec out needed functionality and whatnot, much of it exists in the enhancement issue with animated GIFs already 2020-10-08 06-22-32 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'll check and let you know, not today :) 2020-09-28 03-27-19 PDT Chris Papademetrious stay tuned...! 2020-05-28 02-37-08 PDT Chris Papademetrious will test and let you know :) 2020-06-30 09-54-10 PDT Chris Papademetrious nightly build looks great! I just sent you an email to close and get you paid 2020-12-15 08-59-18 PST Chris Papademetrious I'm adding some detail to the gitlab enhancement request today 2020-04-28 08-36-37 PDT Chris Papademetrious a third question - is it correct to characterize you as "one of the developers of Inkscape" to my management, to ease any fear of risk they might have? 2020-06-23 12-23-31 PDT Chris Papademetrious I'll give it another shot in Windows. 2020-11-17 09-49-16 PST Chris Papademetrious I told my manager that if my company wasn't willing to invest $600 into our group's future, then why should I invest an additional 10-20 hours of my own time each week (beyond the usual 40)?
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2020-02-25 14-30-47 PST Martin Owens I'd continue it. You have good data, and it can be used by devs and others. 2020-01-14 12-40-47 PST Martin Owens Thanks! 2020-02-20 16-13-12 PST Martin Owens But I owe you some favours from this flowering of debate for sure. 2020-02-04 15-42-40 PST Martin Owens Yeah, I blocked Patrick too. It's a personal thing for private messages. 2020-02-20 16-42-43 PST Martin Owens I'm British (whatever that means now), but I live in Boston. 2020-02-04 15-44-40 PST Martin Owens People are people and need their space. I know I do. When my daughter screams a lot, I wear ear defenders. 2020-02-25 14-31-19 PST Martin Owens But I understand. Either way. Also there's no friction with me, I hope, just debate. 2020-02-20 16-19-25 PST Martin Owens A table for contributors would be super cool. I would back that. 2020-02-04 15-31-06 PST Martin Owens You will find it ironic and maybe frustrating to know the reason. 2020-02-20 15-56-59 PST Martin Owens I'm about to put an actual code change to a merge request. It edits the same or similar things, it's a good oppotunity for developers to have a say over it. 2020-02-20 16-41-05 PST Martin Owens Where are you in the world? 2020-02-25 12-02-00 PST Martin Owens You can put it in the regular wiki 2020-12-06 02-28-37 PST Martin Owens Understood. How are you and is everything going well? 2020-02-20 16-23-56 PST Martin Owens It's bike shedding 2020-02-20 16-26-42 PST Martin Owens Anything you bring to the community that looks like anyone could have an opinion on, will get drawn out into a long debate about specifics. 2020-02-04 14-23-10 PST Martin Owens Are you here? 2020-02-20 16-11-41 PST Martin Owens Retort: I say comparing Inkscape to other vector programs is unhealthy, it limits our creativity, takes our eye off the user's actual experience and needs and does little for our confidence as an independent project. 2020-02-04 15-33-40 PST Martin Owens From what I understand, she's not harmed by the exchange. 2020-02-04 15-35-03 PST Martin Owens I should point out that I've been in a bust up with Patrick (three times now). Mostly over wordings and trustings and the way people expect things to happen versus how they do. 2020-02-04 15-31-37 PST Martin Owens BUT 2020-02-20 16-20-10 PST Martin Owens I would back a comprehensive comparison which contributors can use to understand Inkscape's strengths and weaknesses. 2020-02-04 15-24-19 PST Martin Owens So there's a specific context. She's still very mad at you. This may come across if she ever comments after you. 2020-01-14 03-48-44 PST Martin Owens You can email me directly at doctormo(a)gmail.com 2020-02-04 15-31-19 PST Martin Owens Which is she is mad that you deleted the conversation. 2020-02-04 15-43-10 PST Martin Owens Although that was after we tried to sort things out in private and it went /baddly/ 2020-02-04 15-26-51 PST Martin Owens I wanted to make sure you understood this context. 2020-02-04 15-39-10 PST Martin Owens Wiki's are for incomplete and draft information. I mean, mark it as such, but wow, being told not to contribute because it wasn't finished. 2020-02-20 16-29-19 PST Martin Owens I wish to be honest for a second. If you will permit me a minute of reflection? 2020-02-04 15-45-25 PST Martin Owens Yes 2020-02-20 16-09-40 PST Martin Owens You were right to point it out 2020-02-20 16-36-33 PST Martin Owens Both yourself (and brynn) have this way of talking about your interesting and exciting ideas which doesn't interact with criticism. When I (I can only talk about myself) offer a piece of information, the information is treated as an enemy of the exciting idea. Thus the information must be destroyed or ignored. Leading to endless cycling as I would then have to repeat myself the same information over and over again. The problem isn't that the information has to be accepted, or treasured. But swift acknowledgement and integration into the exciting idea or modulation reinforces that we're collaborating on the idea and I'm not fighting you to the death to have it all my way or all your way. 2020-02-20 17-00-07 PST Martin Owens User experences/expectations. 2020-02-04 15-15-14 PST Martin Owens Oh good. Was the issue you had between him and you? 2020-02-04 15-35-51 PST Martin Owens Nah man, I'm poking my nose in, you're both being kindly to my intervention. 2020-02-04 15-41-05 PST Martin Owens The place to bring up where you'd like to take this is here and now. Meetings and such aren't much good for recriminations. Just dry policy and neutral objectively driven ideas. 2020-02-20 16-09-11 PST Martin Owens https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/1465/diffs 2020-02-04 15-48-16 PST Martin Owens Thanks for contributing to Inkscape and baring with us. 2020-02-04 15-41-55 PST Martin Owens I mean you know, in private, when concerning a specific other person. 2020-02-20 16-40-40 PST Martin Owens No one is that important to the project. And I am genuinely sorry for being incapable of communicating the ideas that I want to effectively. My voice is but one. 2020-02-20 16-18-54 PST Martin Owens So a cool table for contributors? 2020-02-20 16-14-10 PST Martin Owens I may wrong you personally by hitting out at your ideas. I mean to encourage you, while exercising your ideas to improve their fittness. 2020-02-04 15-30-50 PST Martin Owens I understand. This kind of thing is why mediation exists. So emotions don't fester. 2020-02-20 16-28-42 PST Martin Owens It's social dynamics. 2020-02-20 16-12-42 PST Martin Owens Aye, guilty as charged. 2020-02-04 15-20-25 PST Martin Owens I wanted to make sure you had context between you and Moini. 2020-02-04 15-48-04 PST Martin Owens :-) 2020-02-04 15-41-41 PST Martin Owens Well I don't mean HERE and NOW. 2020-02-04 15-32-20 PST Martin Owens So you perhaps weren't to know 2020-02-04 15-42-52 PST Martin Owens When emotions get too high 2020-02-20 16-09-32 PST Martin Owens Sorry if I changed that page arrogantly. 2020-02-04 15-43-23 PST Martin Owens He's not blocked now ;-) 2020-02-24 23-02-10 PST Martin Owens Culture, as you said. Hopefully we can all maintain enough relationships that if someone and someone else aren't getting on, there's a chance they both have a friend that can sort it out. 2020-02-04 15-43-42 PST Martin Owens But that's why mediation exists. As soon as I found out she's blocked you, I knew that this process had to start. 2020-02-20 15-56-00 PST Martin Owens It's tacky 2020-02-20 15-53-58 PST Martin Owens Sure 2020-02-20 16-42-07 PST Martin Owens Maybe at a SCaLEx in the US, or if you visit the east coast one day. 2020-02-04 15-45-36 PST Martin Owens Although we don't talk about England any more ;-) 2020-02-04 15-17-38 PST Martin Owens Ah, see I think I've just had a conversation with the third person. 2020-02-04 15-48-23 PST Martin Owens Any issues, let me know. 2020-02-04 15-40-19 PST Martin Owens Anyway. I'm currently minding my space with Patrick and he's being cautious around me. You may find Moini will keep her space, if you wish to do the same. 2020-02-20 16-28-22 PST Martin Owens It's not a strategy. 2020-02-20 16-22-20 PST Martin Owens That's fair, draft away where ever you have permissions to do so safely. 2020-02-04 15-38-43 PST Martin Owens ugh, thats doubly frustrating because it's wrong. 2020-02-20 16-10-38 PST Martin Owens Although I still fully support the community based good/bad/ugly table. Which would be unique, creative and honest. 2020-02-04 15-35-12 PST Martin Owens Chris was the mediator in that situation. 2020-02-20 16-36-55 PST Martin Owens This might just be me interacting baddly with your style of rhetoric. 2020-02-25 12-02-20 PST Martin Owens Because the wiki (all of it) is not considered a public facing communication. It's more internal. 2020-12-10 07-49-32 PST Martin Owens Getting by. Of course the world seems to have gone a bit mad. But that's the kind fo the thing the world seems to do. 2020-02-04 15-32-08 PST Martin Owens She also says that this is probably understandable given that Patrick set a bad example by deleting his own folly 2020-02-20 16-24-16 PST Martin Owens https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/Parkinsons-law-of-triviality-bikes… 2020-02-20 16-15-37 PST Martin Owens The specific thing about mentioning other programs is /old/ and needed revisiting. It's something that we just didn't need to change because there's plenty more to be getting on with. And that's probably you're biggest argument (which I would have no defence against): Just let me get on with the docs project and you mind yours, we know what we're doing. 2020-02-04 15-44-16 PST Martin Owens Don't take it personally. 2020-02-20 17-01-02 PST Martin Owens If you want to set up a hackfest in Canada, I think there would be interest. It's just harder for your end of the world as few Europeans would trek all the way there. So it'd be limited to USians, and we are fewer now than we used to be. 2020-02-04 15-45-04 PST Martin Owens Obrigado? 2020-01-22 23-06-54 PST Martin Owens Great news. 2020-02-20 15-57-55 PST Martin Owens If they reject the change, I'll put back the About page text as it was. 2020-02-20 16-27-07 PST Martin Owens Such is community. 2020-02-20 16-16-55 PST Martin Owens You can see we have mentioned AI and Corel MANY times, not just once on the about screen. So a change like this is me putting my neck on the line, I'm liable to get burned. 2020-02-20 16-20-51 PST Martin Owens But you're drafting it on the website instead of the wiki. So it looks like you're writing it for users instead. 2020-02-04 10-11-44 PST Martin Owens Always. As I said. I take community serious. 2020-02-04 15-20-10 PST Martin Owens It's no waste 2020-02-20 16-21-52 PST Victor Westmann [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=6oCuMMRGDoXnPrbj7) Brynn was brave enough to encourage me to write in a place where it would be read and consumed. () 2020-02-04 15-19-15 PST Victor Westmann We are all digital neighbours here. I will do my best to not disturb the public peace here and at the same time try to offer value to the project. :slight_smile: 2020-02-20 16-41-14 PST Victor Westmann Right now I am in Vancouver, Canada. 2020-02-04 15-45-14 PST Victor Westmann wow! nice! thanks!!! 2020-02-20 16-24-12 PST Victor Westmann let me google that. 1 sec. 2020-02-04 15-43-59 PST Victor Westmann That's funny. 2020-02-20 16-30-55 PST Victor Westmann Try not to break my heart or offend me, please. 2020-12-05 17-18-27 PST Victor Westmann Hello hello dear friend! How are you doing lately? I realized I am not actively tweeting in the account I ended up creating for the Inkscape Brazil account so I would like to hand you over all of the access to it in case any other Brazilian fan shows up in this chat. Let me know if you are interested ok? 2020-02-20 16-19-41 PST Victor Westmann [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/doctormo?msg=bCi7PJsbri7QihYFj) What do you mean by that? () 2020-02-04 15-47-00 PST Victor Westmann It must be extremely stressful to be part of the EU block. Imagine if we are having problems here with our open source project... this could the 5.000x worse running policies and laws from multiple different countries. 2020-02-25 00-33-12 PST Victor Westmann Patience, empathy, and respect. This is the answer. 2020-02-04 15-32-55 PST Victor Westmann I agree with this 100%. No. 500%. 2020-02-20 16-22-39 PST Victor Westmann The table can be changed by anyone if there are wrong/inconsistent things in it... but it needs to be in a place where it can be consumed. 2020-02-20 16-16-52 PST Victor Westmann I think this table could be soo cool and soo nice nd people could even visit our page more because of it. 2020-02-04 15-42-51 PST Victor Westmann really? wow. I had no idea. 2020-02-04 15-27-28 PST Victor Westmann I am mad at her. She has NO RIGHT to be mad at me. At all. This is absurd.
2020-02-20 15-55-43 PST Victor Westmann I am really trying to understand this. For real. I still was not able to understand the reasons not to go this direction. 2020-02-20 16-13-30 PST Victor Westmann what do you mean by that? 2020-02-20 16-26-13 PST Victor Westmann It would be done only once and updated very few times along the years. It has value. 2020-02-04 15-47-37 PST Victor Westmann Anyway... I don't want to take much of your time. Obrigado (for your time, ears, and wise advices). 2020-02-20 16-23-50 PST Victor Westmann Dear lord. 2020-02-20 16-19-27 PST Victor Westmann It would be the MOST transparent table ever. It would be all there. With references to all other progrsams manuals and documentations 2020-02-04 15-36-59 PST Victor Westmann Maybe I can try to bring this up in feb or mach in the entire project meeting? I can try to discuss this with brynn and c.rogers and maybe other people. 2020-02-20 15-56-23 PST Victor Westmann Canadians are tacky. They love it! lol 2020-02-20 15-56-11 PST Victor Westmann That's it? 2020-02-20 16-20-26 PST Victor Westmann This is the point all along! 2020-02-04 15-41-28 PST Victor Westmann Thank you for letting me know. 2020-02-20 16-29-15 PST Victor Westmann Infinite threads of discussions... 2020-02-20 16-40-51 PST Victor Westmann I wish I can meet you all one day in a conference or hackfest. 2020-02-20 16-42-51 PST Victor Westmann I plan to visit them by the end of this year. 2020-02-20 16-21-22 PST Victor Westmann We would not lose users/contributors... I would even dare to say we would get more users when they realize some specific feature they are looking for already exists in our application! 2020-02-04 15-18-08 PST Victor Westmann So that's fine. It is comprehensible. 2020-02-04 15-18-32 PST Victor Westmann Sometimes it is just that I get the feeling that there could be a way to be direct, objective and not be rude, and not offend people. 2020-02-04 15-29-20 PST Victor Westmann I am open for dialog at all times. If there is any time this is needed. But there is like a secret pleasure in putting people down. 2020-02-24 22-59-27 PST Victor Westmann Hey Mr. I would like to thank you for not shaming me in public like other people did in the past. 2020-02-04 15-30-05 PST Victor Westmann She knew more than I did. I was doing things that could be corrected... but the tone of voice and the self-proclaimed authority kind of made her lose the reason and the point. 2020-02-20 16-23-42 PST Victor Westmann the resistance I got from all of you to just put together table of requirements 2020-02-04 15-45-17 PST Victor Westmann that;'s correct! 2020-02-04 15-34-49 PST Victor Westmann Since you seem to be a more neutral person in the entire project and seems to have access to her kindly mention that people would not listen to her, despite her great wealth of knowledge, and comprehension on our application, if she is rude/aggressive or just assume things without asking. 2020-01-13 23-30-23 PST Victor Westmann Hi Doctormo. I just got an email from twitter. Is there any personal email I can send you with their response? I mentioned that I would like to use Inkcape Brasil account and they replied. I just don't know how to proceed. Let me know your thoughts on this one, if any. Thanks! 2020-02-04 15-48-32 PST Victor Westmann You guys are amazing. You guys are worth ALL the effort. Always. 2020-02-20 16-41-24 PST Victor Westmann Provice of British Columbia 2020-02-20 16-42-41 PST Victor Westmann I have 2 sisters living in Europe. 1 in Poland. 1 in Spain. 2020-02-04 15-46-08 PST Victor Westmann I hope everything works out for the best for everyone to be honest. 2020-02-04 15-17-50 PST Victor Westmann We all dedicate time and energy to this project. Sometimes I just feel we could have bigger empathy for people in general. Being technically knowledgeable in Inkscape application shouldn't be an excuse to treat people badly but that's ok. I guess the entire project is stressed out due to the amount of work everyone has to do and probably due to the proximity of the 1.0 release. 2020-01-22 20-50-27 PST Victor Westmann Hey, doctormo. Just to give you an explanation on the topic of the Twitter account @inkcapeBrasil 2020-02-25 00-33-26 PST Victor Westmann Thank you for being civilized at all times. 2020-02-20 16-28-49 PST Victor Westmann Discussions are good. They are healthy. But man... somethings are endlessly discussed. 2020-02-04 15-43-31 PST Victor Westmann For real. 2020-02-20 16-39-48 PST Victor Westmann I want to add value to the project. And to everyone. I am open to criticism and to modifying my way of thinking. We all are. We should be, right? We are all constantly changing. 2020-02-04 15-43-57 PST Victor Westmann AHAHHAHAHA. She blocked me? 2020-02-04 15-38-06 PST Victor Westmann THere was a time I put a simple table of requirements in the Inkscape wiki and Patrick ran to tell me that we didn't put on the wiki incomplete stuff.
I was very frustrated but I deleted the article I put up in there. I don't want to have fights with everyone on this project. Quite the opposite. I want to have good transit with everyone and help things move forward. 2020-02-20 16-41-40 PST Victor Westmann Just above California, in US. near Seattle. 2020-02-20 16-22-58 PST Victor Westmann Poor Brynn. I hope she is not sad as I am or burned in this whole discussion. 2020-02-04 15-31-17 PST Victor Westmann I am all ears. 2020-12-10 07-11-01 PST Victor Westmann All is well my friend. Given the fact that we are surviving a silent 3rd world war in apocalyptic times... I'm good. Are you good as well? How are things in your house/family? 2020-02-25 10-49-51 PST Victor Westmann Is my personal profile inside of the Inkscape wiki a good place? Or would it be considered immoral? 2020-02-04 15-20-04 PST Victor Westmann Apologies for making you waste your time with this. 2020-02-20 16-20-21 PST Victor Westmann Yes my friend! 2020-02-20 16-43-56 PST Victor Westmann But lets say we do the table and convert it to THINGS INKSCAPE IS GOOD, OK, AND BAD. 2020-02-04 15-43-29 PST Victor Westmann I am sorry to hear this my friend. 2020-02-25 13-35-50 PST Victor Westmann Ok. Thanks. I really want to avoid more friction with you and everyone else. I don't want to cause any trouble or disagreements. I will see with Brynn if we can continue this or if we will kill it. 2020-02-20 16-38-52 PST Victor Westmann Thank you for putting this out to me doctormo. I know you are very skilled and very important to the project. I will meditate on your words for some time today (and maybe tomorrow). Sorry if I make yourself repeat to me multiple times. This is bad. This is not ideal. I will take it with an open heart. 2020-02-04 15-45-57 PST Victor Westmann Oh yeah... sadly you guys want out of the EU. 2020-02-20 16-15-38 PST Victor Westmann It is just like... I mentioned that our house should have windows in other rooms because we have 10 rooms and only 1 of them have a window. ANd instead of installing 9 other windows at 9 ither different rooms in a house we go on and tear the only window we have at the house. 2020-02-20 16-20-42 PST Victor Westmann Compare what we do well and what we don;'t do well. ANd maybe other programs do it better. 2020-02-04 15-22-56 PST Victor Westmann She is very knowledgeable about our application. And she helps us a LOT. We are all grateful to have her around. No question about that.
It is just that sometimes there could be more tact in how you talk to people. That's all.
Maybe I am living in Canada too long now (4 years) and this got to me somehow. Idk. 2020-02-20 16-18-17 PST Victor Westmann we could have this super cool table with real info. Like an extensive table (it could start small and simple) and then grow to be reasonably detailed. 2020-02-20 16-47-35 PST Victor Westmann The idea is not to mention any other applications, right? So what are we comparing inkscape with? 2020-02-20 16-24-05 PST Victor Westmann ? 2020-02-04 15-35-53 PST Victor Westmann You do so much work for Inkscape. I see you are almost like 24/7 online fixing things, mentoring people, asking questions... we really, deeply appreciate what you do. 2020-02-20 16-16-06 PST Victor Westmann meh 2020-01-22 20-52-03 PST Victor Westmann I managed to find (by accident) who was the creator or it and it seems it was Valessio Brito with Aurelio Heckert. However, they both don't seem to have a way to recover the credentials to the original account... so... with this in place, and given the fact that I already created a similar account, named, Inkcape do Brasil ("Inkscape Of Brazil", instead of "Inkcape Brazil") I think things can continue this way for now. 2020-02-04 15-28-41 PST Victor Westmann She know a lot about a lot of things, but this does not give you the right to make a person feel stupid in public. I tried to talk to her in the private chat room and she said: "Oh, I don't talk in private". This is just like, "oh yes, let me keep embarassing you in public". This is nonsense, offensive, and outrageous. 2020-02-04 15-40-48 PST Victor Westmann What do you mean by "keep her space"? 2020-02-04 15-42-38 PST Victor Westmann She said: "I don't talk in private. whatever you need to discuss with me should be in public" 2020-02-04 09-59-37 PST Victor Westmann Hi there my friend. I appreciate your concern with me. Really. You are very kind and a very professional person. I will see if I can handle it myself. I believe I will survive. :sunglasses: It is just that people need to be more considerate with others, that's all. Thanks again for worrying. It is important for the community health. :thumbsup: 2020-02-04 15-45-42 PST Victor Westmann Skies here are as gray as UK. But c.rogers said that skies are more blue now. hehe 2020-02-20 16-23-26 PST Victor Westmann Also 2020-02-20 15-58-05 PST Victor Westmann ma friend! 2020-02-04 15-35-29 PST Victor Westmann I am sorry you have to go through all this man. Really. trully. Sorry. 2020-02-20 16-43-19 PST Victor Westmann they are all mainly in Europe. 2020-02-20 16-11-40 PST Victor Westmann This comparison in the about page was there for at least 15 years. Just because I mentioned it it got erased. 2020-02-20 15-58-55 PST Victor Westmann I was so happy I could help explore options to compare how Inkscape relates to other programs... and you go there and remove them from the page. lol
(that hurt).
Let's see what the Inkscape council decides. 2020-02-04 15-42-17 PST Victor Westmann pfffff... tell me about it! I tried talking to her in private. 2020-02-20 16-29-00 PST Victor Westmann The poor survey I tried to put in the project. 2020-02-04 15-33-20 PST Victor Westmann I would pay her therapy if I had extra money here. But I am just restarting my life in Canada. 2020-02-20 16-19-05 PST Victor Westmann It wouldn't be immoral. or ilegal. Or undecent. 2020-02-04 15-45-01 PST Victor Westmann And now that I am living in Canada for the past 4 years I guess this made me even more soft? (if that is even possible!) 2020-02-20 16-42-28 PST Victor Westmann Are you in the US? I thought you were in UK. 2020-02-04 15-15-13 PST Victor Westmann I think it is more a matter of saying things in a light/nice way. But it is all good. Thank you again for worrying and for checking on me. I appreciate your concern. 2020-02-20 16-26-30 PST Victor Westmann If I am wrong we can always delete it. 2020-02-20 16-25-54 PST Victor Westmann DONE! 2020-02-04 15-32-47 PST Victor Westmann It is like you said. We are all humans. We make mistakes. We need to do our best to get along. 2020-02-04 15-38-21 PST Victor Westmann Thank you for being kind and open. This is really needed, especially here. 2020-02-04 15-15-38 PST Victor Westmann No. It was an issue we both have with another person. :sweat_smile: 2020-02-04 15-44-20 PST Victor Westmann I don't. 2020-02-20 16-27-19 PST Victor Westmann I noticed this. It seems like an strategy to kill new ideas slowly with soooo much discussion and very few actions on it. lol 2020-02-04 15-15-48 PST Victor Westmann But we discussed our points of view and it makes sense. 2020-02-20 16-10-26 PST Victor Westmann Comparing Inkscape to other vector programs is healthy. It helps users understand what we do... but oh well... 2020-02-20 16-18-36 PST Victor Westmann This has potential for even all of us to understand our own weaknesses and strenghts. 2020-12-05 17-18-57 PST Victor Westmann service: twitter.com
login: inkscapeb
mobile phone attached to it at the moment (mine): +1 778 938 9039 (Canadian number)
p******: Deusebom2016Deusebom2016Deusebom2016 2020-02-20 15-59-04 PST Victor Westmann May we have fruitful discussions! 2020-02-04 15-44-38 PST Victor Westmann I have a German last name but since I was born in Brazil I am a lot softer. 2020-02-04 15-14-03 PST Victor Westmann Yes. I talked to c.rogers about all this. 2020-01-14 12-40-22 PST Victor Westmann Just sent you an email. 2020-02-04 15-45-22 PST Victor Westmann You are from UK, right? 2020-02-04 15-40-00 PST Victor Westmann It is ok. Living learning eh? :sweat_smile: 2020-02-24 23-00-10 PST Victor Westmann And for still being polite in public (as well as in private). Also, thank you for not blocking me in private. 2020-02-04 15-44-12 PST Victor Westmann Anyway... thank you for your kindness, worrying, and chat. Appreciate it very much! 2020-02-04 15-31-36 PST Victor Westmann oh my... is this the reason? 2020-02-20 16-42-59 PST Victor Westmann ohhh. nice. 2020-02-20 16-43-14 PST Victor Westmann We never have Inkscape conferences in Canada right? 2020-02-20 16-12-25 PST Victor Westmann It is just so disencouraging... 2020-02-04 15-27-11 PST Victor Westmann Wait. WHAT? She is mad at me? For what reason? I felt so embarassed for the way she answered me in the translation team chat that I ended up erasing things.
Is this how we want to build a community and receive new members? We were practically screaming and pointing fingers at each other in that chat room.
That is terrible for everyone. That is very toxic for me and for the project. How is a new member going to feel welcome if there is a BIG fight going on in that chat? 2020-02-20 16-29-44 PST Victor Westmann Of course. Always. Honesty first,. Always, 2020-02-20 16-12-08 PST Victor Westmann People are not even eager to run the survey. 2020-02-04 15-31-39 PST Victor Westmann Dear LORD! 2020-02-04 15-41-46 PST Victor Westmann I guess managing people is also tricky and time consuming. 2020-02-04 15-14-17 PST Victor Westmann Actually, he came to talk to me in the private chat. I am good. 2020-02-20 16-17-41 PST Victor Westmann No. I don't want you to get burned. No one needs to be injured. We don't want that. 2020-02-20 15-55-09 PST Victor Westmann Why was it so damaging to have the name of other vector graphics applications in our About > About page?
And why is it so damaging to put table and show strengths and weaknesses of different programs, in the same category? (vector editing apps) 2020-02-25 10-32-18 PST Victor Westmann So if I publish this table at my own expense, in a personal place it is fine. But you guys won't do it in a project space, is this it? I am cool with that. 2020-02-20 15-53-45 PST Victor Westmann Hey Doctormo. Do you have 5 minutes, or so? :) 2020-02-20 16-22-11 PST Victor Westmann The wiki seems to be mainly for developers and few non-technical people read it. 2020-02-20 16-25-52 PST Victor Westmann So you think we are devoting a huge amount of time to something that is not important. Just stop resisting and say: "lets give it a go."
Do a small and simple draft. If no one likes it we will take it down after 7 or 10 days. Deal? 2020-02-04 15-41-19 PST Victor Westmann Got it. No worries then. 2020-01-22 20-52-49 PST Victor Westmann I will give you the credentials if it happens to have a moment I will need to step down from it... but so far I am enjoying help spread the word of Inkscape in my native language. :smiley: :thumbsup: 2020-02-20 16-09-41 PST Victor Westmann :broken_heart:
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2020-04-24 13-59-14 PDT Jeff Ingersoll Aaron 2020-04-24 14-03-41 PDT Jeff Ingersoll Aaron, I am wondering if you can help me with Inkscape. I am a leather worker and am trying to make templates. Something like a square with rounded corners and then an 1/8 of an inch from the Stroke like have punch holes placed about every 1/8 of an inch or every 1/4 of an inch around the boarder of the Stroke line
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2020-01-11 11-37-01 PST pdurbin I'm really enjoying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI6Y3qBtUAA&t=496 2020-02-04 14-54-14 PST pdurbin Thanks! 2020-01-04 08-33-02 PST pdurbin No worries! And thanks for keeping the meeting moving! :) 2020-01-11 13-51-52 PST pdurbin Are your slides available? 2020-01-04 08-34-26 PST pdurbin Not if this one goes for 3 hours! ;) 2020-02-12 15-29-18 PST pdurbin I just got back from FOSDEM and heard good things about SCALE. 2020-01-04 08-32-43 PST Ryan Gorley It's nice seeing you here. Sorry none of us can meet up with you at FOSDEM 2020-01-31 13-07-17 PST Ryan Gorley Hey, sorry I let this slip. Yes! https://freehive.com/extras/ryan-gorley-scale-presentation-d2.pdf 2020-01-11 12-48-55 PST Ryan Gorley Ah thanks! :) 2020-02-14 11-30-06 PST Ryan Gorley Yeah, I like SCALE. I unfortunately won't make it this year, but Pat David and Mica Semrick put on a good Libre Graphics day of presentations. 2020-01-04 08-34-47 PST Ryan Gorley Finally someone that gets it! 2020-01-04 08-33-29 PST Ryan Gorley We've had meetings go 3 hours, so I have to be a jerk about it. Sorry! :) 2020-01-04 08-33-57 PST Ryan Gorley I hope you'll come back!
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2020-05-06 04-04-32 PDT Ramon Miranda Also the way you use a line to mask and make or not visible the text, is this done in blender 2.80? 2020-05-06 03-38-53 PDT Ramon Miranda the scenes were you see very tilted in perspective ui with depth of field i love it. How this is produced in Blender, any link to learn that? i want to apply to my Krita videos 2020-05-05 06-47-28 PDT Ramon Miranda i would like to talk with you about the production of it and share some tips to improve my video editing skills 2020-05-05 06-46-49 PDT Ramon Miranda Congrats for the video. Really! 2020-05-07 03-27-10 PDT C.Rogers These files would make it easy to apply your own videos and get the effect without having to know much about Blender. 2020-05-05 18-33-29 PDT C.Rogers Hi. Sure, what would you like to know? 2020-05-07 03-26-14 PDT C.Rogers I may also set up some files for each effect, and then have them downloadable for a dollar each, as part of fund raising for more in-depth tutorial videos. 2020-05-07 03-24-30 PDT C.Rogers Yes. What I'll do is create a tour video showing the methods I used to make these effects as an overview. Seems there is enough interest in it to warrant making one. :)
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2020-04-25 14-12-01 PDT Manuel Recena For sure, I will do it tomorrow early morning 2020-04-25 14-15-50 PDT Manuel Recena I would like to figure out new ways to contribute 2020-04-25 14-20-35 PDT Manuel Recena Great, I will ping them 2020-04-25 14-13-15 PDT Manuel Recena My contribution is not important 2020-04-25 14-16-15 PDT Manuel Recena My knowledge area is CI/CD 2020-04-25 14-11-19 PDT Manuel Recena Hello 2020-04-25 14-14-00 PDT Moini We couldn't talk here if it weren't for you. 2020-04-25 14-12-45 PDT Moini Hi :) Cool! Thank you! Don't forget to mention your incredible response time ;-) 2020-04-25 14-20-13 PDT Moini Or ping them now, so you can't forget, but ask for a meeting later ;-) 2020-04-25 14-10-17 PDT Moini Hi Manuel! The Vectors (marketing) team is looking for some Inkscape contributor stories. If you're up to it, I'd like to invite you for our Contributors' interview at https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 . 2020-04-25 14-18-31 PDT Moini I think people in the devel channel just talked about something that concerned Gitlab CI, but I'm not very knowledgeable there myself. Patrick (ede123), Marc (Mc) and Thomas (speleo3) might have some plans already though, that are only waiting for someone to come and help. 2020-04-25 14-21-01 PDT Moini :D 2020-04-25 14-19-37 PDT Moini Could you ping one of them, or all of them? Perhaps after May 1st, because right now they are fixing bugs like crazy for the pending release. Discussions will be more relaxed after that, I think. 2020-04-25 14-14-45 PDT Moini (and even if it were not, I'd have an argument ;-) We'd like to encourage everyone to contribute, and that includes small contributions.) 2020-04-25 14-13-47 PDT Moini It is.
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