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2020-01-17 07-25-40 PST anonym_i_ous hey there 2020-01-17 07-26-26 PST anonym_i_ous I would like to talk to u about some things like this in general.... although nothing particular is coming to my mind rn 2020-01-17 07-25-42 PST anonym_i_ous https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=Zs7M4PXK4koRqruA8 ()

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2020-06-11 19-47-02 PDT Mandyt How do I turn off align at corner when layering images

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2020-10-06 12-07-24 PDT James I noticed you are a global monitor and I am at a complete loss. This is far from intuitive to me. 2020-10-06 12-07-00 PDT James I created an svg file, not realizing that it would not automatically create vectors. To further my problem...I used clip art, a personal file and lines and dots I drew myself. I would like to convert it to vectors, but I am unable to figure out how to use trace bitmap in the path folder to do all the vectors or at one time. Is this possible? 2020-10-06 15-09-44 PDT Moini Hi, please go through public support channels to get user support. Thanks!

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2020-03-23 07-27-37 PDT Aadhish Sriram Hey 2020-03-23 07-39-45 PDT Aadhish Sriram Don't start the holy war here 2020-03-23 07-27-44 PDT Aadhish Sriram It's okay 2020-03-23 05-52-25 PDT Moazin (Just trying to socialize, if that's okay with you) :-) 2020-03-23 05-51-51 PDT Moazin Hey Aadish 2020-03-23 07-34-15 PDT Moazin I saw your proposal. In the editors section you say: "Vim, Emacs". That sounds like I am a Pakistani and Indian at the same time. :D 2020-03-23 07-40-12 PDT Moazin Lol.

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2020-05-26 01-21-18 PDT Mc Hi! your email provider rejected my answer to your email, so here it is : Hi Brynn, Could you forward me an email you received, with all the headers, to narrow this down ? (other possibility is that recently we had activity on the sourceforge ml) Thanks -- Mc On 26/05/2020 03:44, brynn wrote: > Hi -- I've unsubscribed to all the mailing lists which I was previously > subscribed to. But I'm still getting mail. Is there anything else I > can do to stop the mail? > > Thanks, > brynn

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2020-10-13 12-40-27 PDT Mc git grep is magic 2020-10-13 12-53-23 PDT Mc (my thought process when I posted the issue was "heh, that does not really work, let's fix it" -> "that code makes no sense. Wait, no, these options make no sense. Mmmmh... what could make sense here ? Oh, we have ux folks. Let's ask them") 2020-10-13 12-50-21 PDT Mc but even then, I'm like "Hello I'm one of the most active inkscape dev around, I've been using inkscape for 10 years and I do say that this tiny thing miiight need a rethinking" nd the answer is like "nope. works fine" when 30 seconds of testing (just 1/ change to another palette than the default 2/ try anything) show there is something horribly wrong :p 2020-10-13 12-38-38 PDT Mc general advice : 1/ try to look for a word that's not common, and present in the surroundings of what you're looking for -> here I will use "Wrap" 2/ have a general guess at where it is -> it's in the user interface, so we'll look in src/ui/ 3/ git grep '"Wrap"' -> ``` ~/inkscape/src/ui$ git grep '"Wrap"' dialog/swatches.cpp: //TRANSLATORS: "Wrap" indicates how colour swatches are displayed dialog/swatches.cpp: Glib::ustring wrap_label(C_("Swatches","Wrap")); ``` 4/ -> here you go! In that file you'll find that the options are linked to some "_holder->setStyle(...)" calls, so you have to fgind what _holder is. 5/ in swatches.h (the corresponding header file) you'll find it's a PreviewHolder 6/ (but we don't really care ! wer could just git grep ::setStyle -> ``` ~/inkscape/src/ui$ git grep ::setStyle previewholder.cpp:PreviewHolder::setStyle(UI::Widget::PreviewSize size, widget/style-swatch.cpp:void StyleSwatch::setStyle(SPCSSAttr *css) widget/style-swatch.cpp:void StyleSwatch::setStyle(SPStyle *query) ``` 7/ code is in that file :) 2020-10-13 12-45-04 PDT Mc As a side note, I still find that what those two dropdowns do is very unintuitive in general, which is the reason I posted in the ux tracker... I wnated to prompt reflexions about "does anyone put a border ? so do we need that option ?" "If options do nothing, why do we display them ?" "can anyone use the swatches when they are 2 pixels wide ?" "why do the « width » change, change the height ?" and the fact that the answer was mostly "oh everything is fine, here is an ugly squared UI with sliders that adresses none of your points" made me quite sad 2020-10-13 12-56-09 PDT Mc :) 2020-10-13 12-49-38 PDT anonym_i_ous (ref: ux#51) 2020-10-13 12-55-17 PDT anonym_i_ous (continued) but then again, as i have some doubts if people actually change the chip/tile size, i doubt that not closing this would become unwanted (for example after changing the pallete to smth else). 2020-10-13 12-52-35 PDT anonym_i_ous maybe 2020-10-13 11-23-54 PDT anonym_i_ous can u guide me where i can find the code location of the palette options?? 2020-10-13 12-52-18 PDT anonym_i_ous also, one more thing can be improved in ux. that changing the options shouldnt make the menu to disappear. 2020-10-13 12-39-18 PDT anonym_i_ous niice. thanks a lot 2020-10-13 12-51-12 PDT anonym_i_ous haha, yeah, right 2020-10-13 12-48-39 PDT anonym_i_ous not blaming or anyth, but he is a ux/ui person. and so... amh, when we work too much with something, it starts to penetrate in other things as well right!!? i think thats what happened there with him. 2020-10-13 11-23-12 PDT anonym_i_ous hello there 2020-10-13 12-40-10 PDT anonym_i_ous i thought there was some magic way :sweat_smile: 2020-10-13 12-48-21 PDT anonym_i_ous hahahaha. lol yeah i can agreee to that. 2020-10-13 12-40-41 PDT anonym_i_ous (cntd...) like click the action/button and the called command will show up - say in command prompt somehow 2020-10-13 12-56-05 PDT anonym_i_ous yeah, i agree that it would need much thought.

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2020-10-04 09-07-50 PDT Mc ah sorry it's more for non-EU 2020-10-04 08-59-39 PDT Mc oh ? 2020-10-04 09-18-09 PDT Mc mostly "whatever I want" 2020-10-04 09-01-16 PDT Mc (if you want, of course) 2020-06-17 10-23-00 PDT Mc 20 and 21 are a weekend so they don't even count, for me ^^ 3 days is fine imo 2020-10-04 09-26-30 PDT Mc communist in the sens of "putting their work into making a «Common» of the result" 2020-06-17 10-17-17 PDT Mc Don't worry, planning is not the forte of french universities either :D 2020-06-17 10-23-40 PDT Mc (as I wrote, it's important to have other mentors agree too, especially Thomas) 2020-10-04 08-51-52 PDT Mc in France I think it would probably be doable, provided you would have ideas on what are the differences between inkscape and the state of the art, and maybe how to improve on the state of the art 2020-05-31 07-18-49 PDT Mc Hi! 2020-10-04 09-25-21 PDT Mc it's a bunch of communist-minded computer scientists trying to change the world at their level 2020-10-04 09-33-54 PDT Mc neat 2020-10-04 09-34-10 PDT Mc in which area ? 2020-10-04 09-31-15 PDT Mc :/ 2020-05-31 08-39-48 PDT Mc ah, sorry to hear that 2020-10-04 08-54-55 PDT Mc (or a book about geometry, maybe) 2020-10-04 09-01-30 PDT Mc (if you're more interested into robotics than in geometry, I can understand that :D ) 2020-10-04 09-14-18 PDT Mc (from https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/student-finance/how-much-does-… "Tuition fees for “non-consecutive” master’s degrees, for those who have gained their bachelor’s degree elsewhere in the world, vary between universities and may be around €20,000 (~US$24,400) per year at public institutions") 2020-10-04 09-09-57 PDT Mc that's a new law from last year that introduced this price difference (3770€/yr), the law was heavily criticized (basically as an anti-african law as many courses are in french and most non-EU people coming were from northern africa), the law was called by the minister "welcome to france", not even ironically 2020-05-31 07-19-33 PDT Mc As we approach the end of the community bonding period, I wanted to check with you how it went for you 2020-10-04 09-11-58 PDT Mc masters in germany is ~20k€ 2020-10-04 09-16-22 PDT Mc I did TCS (parallel algoirithms) 2020-10-04 09-23-41 PDT Mc so, lots of things :D 2020-10-04 08-50-43 PDT Mc I don't know how much is asked from a MS thesis (it depends a lot on the countries) 2020-10-04 09-12-54 PDT Mc yeah 2020-05-31 08-40-00 PDT Mc hope you'll get better 2020-06-17 10-09-22 PDT Mc (if you prefer to have everyone, you can write to all, whatever you are more comfortable with) 2020-10-04 08-56-07 PDT Mc ideally the people most apt to tell you what the state of the art is would be people doing research on geometric algorithms ^^ 2020-10-04 08-59-12 PDT Mc well, that makes sense :D 2020-10-04 09-41-04 PDT Mc not sure I'll have the time, but you can try to @ me 2020-10-11 11-53-49 PDT Mc ok :) 2020-10-04 08-56-57 PDT Mc maybe I can find some at my uni or at a friend's uni 2020-10-04 09-30-33 PDT Mc (btw, I saw that you attempted to join the dev meeting, did you have problems to join ?) 2020-05-09 14-19-04 PDT Mc Yes, that sounds good :) 2020-10-04 09-39-29 PDT Mc (oh, btw, was anything still needed to merge the documentation of your gsoc ?) 2020-10-04 09-29-47 PDT Mc what's even more amazing is how people sometimes manage work together to collaborate productively into doing so (not everyone doing their stuff by themselves) 2020-06-17 10-24-30 PDT Mc group chat is fine 2020-10-04 09-07-09 PDT Mc (for master) 2020-10-04 09-37-28 PDT Mc sounds like a great project anyway :) 2020-10-04 09-38-41 PDT Mc you never know :) 2020-10-04 09-20-38 PDT Mc I'm employed in a public uni as a research engineer, which means I spend some of my time doing sysadmin stuff (installing and maintaining sdervices and machines for researchers, maintain a visioconference server (the one we used for inkscape/gsoc) ), giving lectures (I did one about hadoop last year), but also have free time to work on e.g. Inkscape, and can work on research projects with a big data research team; and I got funded to make a MOOC on edX about "Contributing to free software" 2020-10-04 09-00-51 PDT Mc and you cannot switch ? or is that a completely different cursus ? 2020-08-08 05-55-30 PDT Mc he should 2020-10-04 09-07-25 PDT Mc https://www.campusfrance.org/en/tuition-fees-France 2020-10-04 09-15-58 PDT Mc It would not surprise me if it was free in some landers and paying in others 2020-10-04 09-14-58 PDT Mc I don't know much about the german system 2020-07-31 23-29-50 PDT Mc * the ability to very quickly speak to almost any other open source project, and to my friends, within one program that just requires a terminal open * not hidden in a browser tab (I have ~4000 open browsers tabs) which just work to speak to Inkscape only and can play noise or notifications * much, much faster to read on any IRC client than on rocket chat (I can read ~ 50 lines on one window of IRC vs 10 lines on a Rocketchat window + I can go back on my history with 0 loading time and no weird scroller) 2020-10-04 09-36-01 PDT Mc the Deepak Agrawal one ? 2020-08-08 05-53-23 PDT Mc yes, I called him yesterday 2020-06-17 10-17-52 PDT Mc IMO one week is fine, but this will need to be agreed with the other mentors 2020-06-17 10-18-23 PDT Mc (it's 10% of the whole gsoc, after all^^) 2020-10-04 08-54-07 PDT Mc arxiv ? 2020-06-17 10-08-58 PDT Mc you can discuss it with me if you want 2020-10-04 09-06-56 PDT Mc 243€ / year + some additional fees 2020-10-04 08-50-16 PDT Mc mmh 2020-10-04 09-00-22 PDT Moazin Pick* 2020-10-04 09-35-26 PDT Moazin I'll be helping them write the software for it. 2020-10-04 07-03-24 PDT Moazin Do you think there is a possibility for an MS Thesis on the topic? Building on the work and improving it? 2020-10-04 09-17-44 PDT Moazin Great! :-) And what's your area of work these days? 2020-10-04 09-31-01 PDT Moazin I had a really lame internet connection 2020-10-04 09-02-13 PDT Moazin Specially those that run embedded Linux 2020-07-31 07-39-11 PDT Moazin Mc I had a question. It's not really important, just curious. 😃 What are the advantages to using IRC over RocketChat? I mean what makes you prefer it 2020-10-04 09-12-35 PDT Moazin Are you talking just about the tuition fee? 2020-10-04 09-00-19 PDT Moazin Yep. I graduated in Electrical Engineering. At that time I thought it was the best choice for me as I was confused about which area to oick. 2020-10-04 09-37-18 PDT Moazin It's a different one, not much info on the internet 2020-10-04 09-01-38 PDT Moazin Haha 2020-10-04 09-01-20 PDT Moazin With a few bridge courses, one should be able to switch 2020-10-04 09-35-08 PDT Moazin Some of my friends started with a design and got it to the prototyping phase. 2020-05-31 07-43-28 PDT Moazin Hi Marc. I sorry that due to some gastrointestinal health issues I have been very disturbed in the past few weeks and couldn't do all the things that I planned to do within this period. I did spend some time in chat helping out few people which I very much enjoyed. I got checked recently and am recovering well. Hoping to cover up for those things as well as get started on the project. 2020-10-04 09-01-50 PDT Moazin At the moment, I'm really interested in embedded systems 2020-10-04 09-30-06 PDT Moazin yep definitely 2020-05-09 13-58-37 PDT Moazin Hi Marc. I wanted to start discussing a few things regarding what I plan to do during the community bonding period and the direction of the project. I was thinking of discussing it over email with all the mentors in CC. Does that sound good? 2020-10-04 09-34-47 PDT Moazin So when the pandemic happened, the country's higher leadership decided to ask the research and engineering students to build a ventilator device. 2020-10-04 08-59-32 PDT Moazin One big problem is that I'm not a CS graduate 2020-10-04 07-03-39 PDT Moazin You're also working in a university so I thought you'd have a better idea on this 2020-10-04 09-35-51 PDT Moazin Both the UI and the controller that'd run it 2020-10-04 09-12-27 PDT Moazin I'll explore more and if I'm sure the CG area is a good option for me, I'll probably ask you to find me people from academia that know the area well, but before that, I'd do my research first :-) 2020-10-04 09-01-57 PDT Moazin Programming small chips 2020-10-04 09-00-50 PDT Moazin I had interests in programming, but also in embedded systems, communication devices and robotics 2020-10-04 09-15-54 PDT Moazin No problem :-) Btw, what was your area of interest when you did your MS? 2020-10-04 09-40-32 PDT Moazin I'm still reviewing it, fixing typos, there are just a few files remaining to check. I'll do that within the week. Once that's done I'd really like it if someone can go through it for a review? 2020-06-17 10-07-09 PDT Moazin Hi Marc 2020-10-04 09-14-10 PDT Moazin https://www2.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programmes/e… 2020-10-04 09-38-00 PDT Moazin Yeah, I don't see high chances of it making into a final product, it's a RnD project and I just see it as great experience. :-) 2020-10-04 09-26-50 PDT Moazin yep, yep, got it :-) 2020-06-17 10-16-56 PDT Moazin You must be thinking what kind of a university does that, but that's the weird part of living in a country like Pakistan. They don't listen to us. 2020-06-17 10-08-08 PDT Moazin There is something I need to discuss about my GSoC project. So I was wondering if I should discuss it with you here or make a group chat with other mentors as well. (It's not a technical matter) 2020-06-17 10-14-27 PDT Moazin To update on the project, I am done with the Simplify code which was the goal for the first two weeks. In this week and the next 2 I am supposed to work on Path -> Digraph -> Path parts. 2020-10-04 09-17-49 PDT Moazin At your day job I mean 2020-10-04 09-21-57 PDT Moazin That's nice :-) 2020-06-17 10-22-05 PDT Moazin So, I was thinking of working as much as I can for the next 2-3 days with GSoC (and hopefully make good progress). And taking time off for university work from 20 to 25 June to work on the thesis. Does that sound fine to you? 2020-06-17 10-13-33 PDT Moazin So the thing is as you would probably know I am in the senior year of my university. (I was supposed to have graduated by June). Due to COVID, the university was closed and then they started some online education system too. The exams and my thesis were scheduled for later. However, suddenly they sent us an email telling that we have to submit our thesis on 24th June and deliver a presentation on 29 June. It's very hard to manage this with GSoC. I was wondering if it would be possible to do reduced work for the next few days, I'll of course make up for it. I totally understand if this is not possible, in that situation I'll have to ask the university to give me an extension in the project which will have its own downsides. 2020-10-04 09-36-41 PDT Moazin Nah :D 2020-06-17 10-24-02 PDT Moazin Of course, that's important. 2020-10-04 09-30-16 PDT Moazin and Inkscape is a place where a lot of collaboration goes on 2020-10-04 09-33-49 PDT Moazin Btw, I've got a temporary job for a few months 2020-10-04 09-31-11 PDT Moazin (third world problems) 2020-10-04 09-25-39 PDT Moazin That's a really sweet way to put it :-) 2020-08-08 05-56-19 PDT Moazin All right :-) 2020-10-04 09-33-04 PDT Moazin Sometimes during the GSoC meetings, I'd have to switch between the two during the meeting. :-D 2020-10-04 08-59-01 PDT Moazin So when listing out areas where I do have some experience, my project immediately came to my mind 2020-10-04 09-30-49 PDT Moazin Yep I did 2020-10-04 09-24-42 PDT Moazin (My dad doesn't have a CS background, but I've explained him what OSS is :P) 2020-10-04 09-32-42 PDT Moazin But often times both will betray me 2020-10-04 09-06-44 PDT Moazin Most institutes have very less/no fee 2020-10-11 11-32-18 PDT Moazin Hey Marc, you often encourage me to talk in the meetings and I really feel great about that. I'm totally comfortable in doing so, the reason is technical. You might have noticed me mention that my headset broke in the final GSoC meeting. I ordered new ones and they are stuck in transit for over a month. I'm living with 6 other people in one two connected rooms so very noisy and laptop's battery is crap now so can't take it outside. I am using borrowed terrible quality IEMs whose audio input just sucks (so a bad idea to join with audio). Might try joining from phone next time. BBB is great on phone. 2020-06-17 10-24-21 PDT Moazin Should we start a group chat? Or would you prefer discussing this with them by yourself? 2020-10-04 09-18-21 PDT Moazin wow! You've landed a dream job 2020-06-17 10-19-51 PDT Moazin Yes, of course. 2020-10-04 09-08-02 PDT Moazin Yea I am non-EU :P 2020-10-04 09-07-36 PDT Moazin Yea that's more or less the same as Germany I guess 2020-10-04 09-32-32 PDT Moazin Internet is very unstable where I live. I keep a 3G connection on phone as a backup and a DSL is the primary WiFi for home. 2020-10-04 09-28-27 PDT Moazin It's a huge effort, I'm amazed at how volunteer work can create and develop something as great as Inkscape. 2020-07-31 23-58-16 PDT Moazin Thanks for answering btw. Makes a lot of sense 2020-10-04 07-02-56 PDT Moazin Mc, there is something I wanted to discuss with you 2020-10-04 09-39-21 PDT Moazin Yea. 2020-10-04 09-41-13 PDT Moazin Yep sure 2020-07-31 23-57-36 PDT Moazin 4000 open tabs! Woah. How much RAM needed to support that? 2020-08-08 05-53-49 PDT Moazin I was worried 2020-10-04 09-10-34 PDT Moazin Oh I see 2020-10-04 09-06-24 PDT Moazin How's the situation of graduate studies in France btw? They're really cheap in Germany 2020-10-04 09-24-01 PDT Moazin It actually surprises me how developers in the Inkscape community take so much time out to work on it, specially when day jobs and when you're not getting paid for it. Whenever I discuss my project and Inkscape with my dad, he often brings up this question, how are they all working for free? What do they get in return? :D I do understand that it feels great to contribute to software that you like, for sure. But still, taking so much time out is a huge commitment 2020-10-04 09-41-04 PDT Moazin Thanks for all the info btw :-) 2020-08-08 05-54-28 PDT Moazin Will he be joining us today for the presentation? 2020-10-04 08-57-11 PDT Moazin That'd would be really great 2020-10-04 09-01-03 PDT Moazin I can switch I think. A lot of people do. 2020-10-04 07-03-02 PDT Moazin You know my livarot project well 2020-10-04 09-03-56 PDT Moazin In order to be able to do research in the area of CG, I'd need to get good background in it first 2020-10-04 08-53-35 PDT Moazin Where can I find the state of the art? Cgal? 2020-10-04 08-56-41 PDT Moazin Got it. Thanks :-) 2020-10-04 08-57-33 PDT Moazin I'm actually preparing for MS applications and I'm exploring potential research interests for myself 2020-08-08 01-48-20 PDT Moazin Have you heard from Link Mauve recently?

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2020-04-20 06-13-24 PDT Estelle Hello have a probleme to open inkscape I download it and also XQuart like you said on O.92 on mac version I have a macOS Mojave 10.14.2 it look like its open but there is nothing on the screene I did everthing said on the website for a Inkscape 0.92.2 on macOS

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2020-01-01 14-10-51 PST Erik Mull thank u 2020-01-01 14-10-47 PST Erik Mull yes I don’t have a problem I just don’t know if what I’m saying is correct at times. But I will do what I can 2020-01-01 14-08-43 PST Erik Mull Hi this is Erik. I have had issues with my account so I had to make another. 2020-01-01 14-09-13 PST Moini Copying the reply over from the other channel: I think this is a topic that others may benefit from, too. Would you be comfortable asking your question in a forum? Inkscape's official one is at https://inkscape.org/forums - it has a section for plotting / cutting, too. 2020-01-01 14-11-30 PST Moini If people don't understand, they will just ask. It requires a bit of patience, but that's normal. Good luck! 2020-01-01 14-09-37 PST Moini I'm not into cutting and plotting myself at all.

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2020-02-12 18-16-36 PST anonym_i_ous https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=KNZBcPcj4ZQ7RtoXf (i am just sending the message so that i dont forget it, but rn, *please just ignore* the message, i will come back to it after doing some more research, and then will ask u again) where can i study which licence to use, or which one maybe suited to me..... i have tried searching online, but the articles are mostly for user side, and not the creator side.... next method to understand will be to read the whole of license .... and i tried that too and it flies off my mind (or i shall get all the suitable licences, get a print of them, and then read, hopefully with grasp more)...... so, u wanna suggest anything like where to read about them, how to compare different licences, or which part of the licence is related to the creators rights and the right of forks/copying/derivation etc..... btw i am talking for software licences.... ()

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2020-08-22 16-11-44 PDT Significantcell https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-ci-docker/-/raw/master/install_depende…

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2020-08-05 11-43-44 PDT chris Hi there regarding the txt downwards still having issues and trying to work out how to chat so this would be easier thank you

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2020-07-16 13-33-28 PDT Orestas Hey, so I have a question. I was working on a project and all of a sudden an error occurred and Inkscape shut down, and I didn't have time to save it but it did say it was saved on the alert. The problem is i quickly turned it off and didn't see where it was saved and i need your help to tell me where it saved. I'd really appreciate your help.

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2020-03-04 13-56-25 PST Sergei Izmailov Let's try. I've tested on 19.04 - works fine 2020-03-07 16-47-39 PST Sergei Izmailov I think we can test gtest installation via minimal cmake project and provide instructions to fix that. A minimal cmake project would contain single `CMakeLists.txt` file: ```cmake cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 3.0) project(temp) find_package(GTest REQUIRED MODULE) ``` 2020-03-07 06-44-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, did you have a chance to look at docker MR? 2020-03-30 15-31-36 PDT Sergei Izmailov In fact it's about same size, see screenshot above 2020-03-04 13-33-48 PST Sergei Izmailov Or you think moving gtest to minimal is better? 2020-03-26 09-30-29 PDT Sergei Izmailov ok, I'll rebase in a minute 2020-03-27 07-31-33 PDT Sergei Izmailov Do you know is `lib/libinkscape_base.dll.a` shared or static? The line ``` [984/1057] Linking CXX shared library bin\libinkscape_base.dll ``` suggests it's shared, but name and location are different. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to test on windows at the moment. I don't see how `2geom` got included in `libinkscape_base`. I'll try to investigate this topic in more detail later (maybe in a week or so). I could experiment with AppVeyor, but it's too long and makes others wait a lot. Currently it doesn't compile even without extra OBJECT/STATIC/SHARED test library. Please share your ideas if you have some 2020-03-19 15-00-14 PDT Sergei Izmailov It depends in which mode you build 2geom. 2020-03-07 16-50-47 PST Sergei Izmailov I don't like false-positive warnings. We can limit it to ubuntu 18.04 only 2020-03-19 14-58-05 PDT Sergei Izmailov No problem, take your time. Just checking. 2020-03-04 07-32-57 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! Can you give a comment on https://gitlab.com/inkscape/lib2geom/-/merge_requests/19 ? (if you prefer we can discuss it here or there) 2020-03-04 08-22-54 PST Sergei Izmailov I appreciate that this change is not urgent and can be delayed to post 1.0 (I remember you said that, probably it was in chat, can't find it in MRs). I think you are reasonable person and your suggestions has ho have something behind, but I don't see it clearly so far. I didn't ignore you questions (at least intentionally). Please point out/copy-paste. I didn't argue against any extra changes just because I'm lazy to address your comments. I want to find best solution of possible. You can read that I'm not 100% with my arguments and my comment leaves question open to discuss. Please don't silence conversations as it's not a productive way to solve problems (as well as over-communication). If you think that I'm wrong/lazy/not in right time, please tell so. Again, if it's just lack of time, lets hold it until 1.0 release. It's totally fine by me. 2020-03-15 04-40-18 PDT Sergei Izmailov Sorry, I misread that. 2020-03-19 15-00-34 PDT Sergei Izmailov (i guess) 2020-03-19 14-20-26 PDT Sergei Izmailov Sorry for bothering you again. Is there is any problems with https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/1410 except lack of dev time? 2020-05-07 13-54-24 PDT Sergei Izmailov I see. (To be honest I feel uneasy with windows as developer, especially when it comes as low level as like linking. I think I can utilize my time better fixing other stuff.) 2020-03-04 13-30-21 PST Sergei Izmailov Should I ask Martin to do it? 2020-05-07 13-15-55 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm a unix person, so I don't know much about Windows stuff. All I found I wrote here. 2020-03-04 14-00-17 PST Sergei Izmailov (`googletest` soruces is dependency and will be installed automatically ) 2020-03-30 15-29-08 PDT Sergei Izmailov libinkscape_base.dll.a (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/JHxjTscxfaTZuRcZ3/libinkscape_base.dl…) 2020-03-04 13-44-24 PST Sergei Izmailov I don't understand. All seems to be installed, but it's not found by cmake for some reason https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-ci-docker/-/jobs/455010902 2020-03-15 06-31-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov It's all case-specific. Some libraries act similar in both mods, some don't (like gtest). Explicit specification of MODULE/CONFIG prohibits use of another one. I think generally CONFIG is more preferable since it's mostly auto-generated and less error prone, but it requires some efforts from library authors so it's not widespread. At the moment I agree, let's keep it as is. 2020-03-07 16-49-06 PST Sergei Izmailov Should I add it to MR? 2020-03-19 15-55-24 PDT Sergei Izmailov ``` set(2GEOM_BUILD_SHARED ON CACHE BOOL "Build 2geom as SHARED library") add_subdirectory(2geom) ``` is enough to build and link against shared version of lib2geom. I've build with `-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=~/.local/` so shared library is not found with default settings, therefore `~/.local/bin/inkscape` can't be launched without `LD_LIBRARY_PATH` or `LD_PRELOAD`. 2020-03-26 09-54-16 PDT Sergei Izmailov Does windows CI run only on master branch, but not on MRs? 2020-03-19 15-01-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov I can try to build inkscape against shared lib2geom 2020-03-30 15-31-14 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm not really familiar with "import libraries", but from what I read it should be quite small compared to shared library 2020-03-04 13-22-13 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm new to gitlab CI 2020-03-07 16-48-51 PST Sergei Izmailov Such test would add ~30 lines to `.sh` script 2020-03-15 04-22-15 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi! I've noticed you simplified GTest handling in main repo. The `find_package` call must include `MODULE` keyword since "config" mode takes precedence over "module" mode and we are using "module" features. It will fail on systems with properly installed GTest. 2020-03-04 15-07-21 PST Sergei Izmailov There is no binaries 2020-03-04 13-31-49 PST Sergei Izmailov right? 2020-03-26 11-11-48 PDT Sergei Izmailov ... and it fails [link](https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/builds/31745274/job…. I don't quite get it. `lib/libinkscape_base.dll.a` has defined symbols from `lib/lib2geom.a`... 2020-03-26 13-22-09 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've dropped my previous commits to `testfiles/CMakeLists.txt` and added extra `target_link_libraries` for OBJECT library you created. It worked locally, let's see how would CI go 2020-03-04 13-17-37 PST Sergei Izmailov Seems like CI doesn't have google tests. Can you help with it ? 2020-03-04 13-59-12 PST Sergei Izmailov I don't think lib2geom uses mock. I have no guesses here 2020-03-19 15-03-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov Currently I think it's ready, it's matter of one line change. I'm going to check it right now. 2020-03-04 14-07-52 PST Sergei Izmailov Thanks for testing! 2020-03-07 16-53-53 PST Sergei Izmailov I think warning should be issued at the very end of script. Otherwise it's easy to overlook it in ton of messages 2020-03-19 16-04-16 PDT Sergei Izmailov Currently MR builds STATIC library (default setting in lib2geom). 2020-03-07 16-58-43 PST Sergei Izmailov I thought about it. It's better since it's never false-positive, but I don't like the idea of fixing it in CMakeLists... 2020-03-26 07-47-44 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, I think you still plan to give a review to MR, right? (Thomas seems to approved it) 2020-03-30 15-32-24 PDT Sergei Izmailov nm (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ty2TRYMN2pNSnCtCg/nm) 2020-03-07 16-50-59 PST Sergei Izmailov But managing all versions seems to be tedious 2020-03-30 15-34-21 PDT Sergei Izmailov `lib2geom.a` and `lininkscape_base.dll.a` provide same global symbol 2020-03-04 13-30-05 PST Sergei Izmailov How can i update the image? 2020-03-26 13-25-55 PDT Sergei Izmailov Damn, older cmake rejects it. Sounds like a task for tomorrow. 2020-03-04 13-21-36 PST Sergei Izmailov It's already there, but needs special flag.. I'm not sure how to proceed with it 2020-03-04 12-59-15 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm sorry. Sometimes it's hard to explain myself properly. (In process of re-explaining I think I solved the googletest issue) 1. You are right, the difference between 2.8 and 3.0 styles is irrelevant here. BTW here is a good talk about modern cmake style and why we should avoid "2.8-style" https://youtu.be/bsXLMQ6WgIk. 2. The problem with `googletest`/`libgtest-dev`/`libmock-dev` packages on Ubuntu: None of them installs following files (compare to RPM: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/devel/rawhide/aarch64/g/gtest-devel-1.8…) ``` /usr/lib64/cmake/GTest/GTestConfig.cmake /usr/lib64/cmake/GTest/GTestConfigVersion.cmake /usr/lib64/cmake/GTest/GTestTargets-noconfig.cmake /usr/lib64/cmake/GTest/GTestTargets.cmake ``` (pkg-config files are also missing but we are not interested in them now) They contain information about build targets and their flags. Without them we need to repeat this information ourself. Fortunately cmake-shipped [FindGTest](https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/module/FindGTest.html) exists and does it for us. `find_package(GTest)` can find headers and libraries and resurrect all required flags (https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/module/FindGTest.html) and even define `IMPROTED` targets `GTest::GTest` and `GTest::Main`. The only issue it has it names googletest targets differently from googletest itself. But it's not a big deal, we can ignore generated cmake files (`GTestConfig.cmake`) on system where googletest installed properly. I guess some of `googletest`/`libgtest-dev`/`libmock-dev` are available on CI, right? 2020-03-04 14-07-31 PST Sergei Izmailov I would prefer to stick to simpler solution. I think I'll do tests on 18.04 on my own to see what exactly goes wrong with bare `find_package` 2020-03-04 15-45-24 PST Sergei Izmailov I've submitted a MR with extra build step for gtest 2020-05-07 07-08-52 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, congrats on 1.0 release! Can you find time to look at https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/1410 problem ? 2020-03-04 13-33-13 PST Sergei Izmailov I though about passing `--recommended` flag 2020-03-26 12-46-04 PDT Sergei Izmailov I've tried static/shared and ended up with no library at all. I guess your intention was to avoid recompiling of those two files... Let's see if it would work. Probably you initial approach would also work (i.e. with OBJECT library) with repeated `target_link_libraries` for OBJECT library and tests which uses it. 2020-03-04 15-07-48 PST Sergei Izmailov And it's the complaint from cmake at CI 2020-03-19 15-57-46 PDT Sergei Izmailov (I've added tests to lib2geom to build a super-project against it as installed and subdirectory library) 2020-03-07 16-51-50 PST Sergei Izmailov Currently I don't have any warnings. You suggest to add warning only to non-CI ubuntu 18.04 ? 2020-03-19 15-02-07 PDT Sergei Izmailov is it desired? 2020-05-15 08-02-22 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, do you know how windows build was fixed? Just curious. Don't see obvious changes to cmake files 2020-03-04 13-31-47 PST Sergei Izmailov Oh, I see the https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-ci-docker/-/blob/master/Dockerfile 2020-03-26 09-56-02 PDT Sergei Izmailov Nevermind, I see AppVeyor started the job, but it doesn't appear as build stage on gitlab. 2020-03-07 17-00-13 PST Sergei Izmailov I'll add warning to `.sh` script. Let's think about cmake warning a bit more and decide later 2020-03-19 15-56-27 PDT Sergei Izmailov I think it confirms that lib2geom can be packaged separately 2020-03-04 14-47-26 PST Sergei Izmailov Looks like `libgtest-dev` in 18.04 is really poor. Compare 18.04 and 19.04: https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/amd64/libgtest-dev/filelist https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/libgtest-dev/filelist We are not alone with this problem: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24295876/cmake-cannot-find-googletest-r… I think I'll add instructions to build and install googletest to docker image 2020-03-04 13-59-57 PST Sergei Izmailov I think `libgtest-dev` is enough 2020-03-04 13-58-20 PST Patrick (but should still have everything needed to build) 2020-05-07 12-44-26 PDT Patrick I will, but I can't promise you when. Did you make progress on the linking issue on Windows or do we still need to solve that? 2020-03-15 05-07-58 PDT Patrick It might even be a good idea to explicitly specify module mode everywhere, but I don't think we do that anywhere yet, so it seemed safer to just keep it as-is (especially as it should not matter if the module is properly found in module mode as expected) 2020-03-19 14-59-47 PDT Patrick Maybe one question ahead of time: Do we link lib2geom dynamically in your MR? Because that certainly would be a goal going forward. 2020-03-19 14-57-26 PDT Patrick Well, I can't tell you if there are any problems before I have reviewed it (which I plan to do, eventually, but yeah I'm backlogged). 2020-03-19 15-02-09 PDT Patrick If it's reasonable... We can obviously take this in steps as well. 2020-03-04 13-32-27 PST Patrick (which is called by the Dockerfile) 2020-03-04 07-53-52 PST Patrick You seem to be ignoring my comments (everything I said so far you've not replied to at all or argued against, giving me the impression that you're not really willing to actually change anything) so I'm not overly motivated to spend any more time on that. (In fact the very first thing you ignored was my suggestion to move this to post-1.0 when people will have more time to review properly and it will be less intrusive to make larger changes to the build system). 2020-03-19 15-03-35 PDT Patrick But if we can isolate the subproject enough, it might come "for free". 2020-03-07 17-01-39 PST Patrick OK... I just would not like to add a lot of stuff to `.sh` script for a workaround for one specific version of one specific OS either, so let's keep it minimal (especially considering it might not be seen by all people) 2020-03-07 16-52-56 PST Patrick Yes, if `CI` is set, build and install cmake, otherwise print a warning that recommends to do it. 2020-03-04 13-59-33 PST Patrick So we only need gtest? 2020-03-19 15-01-13 PDT Patrick I meant with your MR against Inkscape. 2020-03-04 13-34-16 PST Patrick CI has everything 2020-03-07 16-51-02 PST Patrick Yes, I think that's exactly what you were doing in your MR? 2020-03-15 04-38-37 PDT Patrick If the MODULE option is not specfied in the above signature, CMake first searches for the package using Module mode. Then, if the package is not found, it searches again using Config mode. 2020-03-26 12-23-14 PDT Patrick Maybe all you need to do is make cpp_test_static_library actually static? 2020-03-26 12-15-52 PDT Patrick Yep, only for tests, though. Do you link the test library differently from other internal libs? 2020-03-04 14-12-51 PST Patrick Great! Once we figure it out, we can try to simplify the logic in inkscape/inkscape as well 2020-03-26 10-18-06 PDT Patrick Yeah, GitLab is stupid that way... 2020-03-27 09-03-49 PDT Patrick .dll.a indicates a so-called "import library". I think with gcc we can link directly against the .dll though. (so this is probably where the problem comes from: linking directly against libinkscape_base.dll once and indirectly linking against it a second time via the .dll.a) 2020-03-07 16-50-05 PST Patrick nah, that seems like overkill... I'd suggest to simply print a warning if `CI` is unset (same conditions otherwise). 2020-03-04 15-28-38 PST Patrick OK, yeah, I guess we might only use headers for Inkscape. 2020-03-04 14-05-20 PST Patrick Ok, so `find_package` fails locally as well. However the logic in https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L177-197 and https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/blob/master/testfiles/CMakeLists.txt… still makes it work (I'm pretty sure we don't even need all of it) 2020-03-07 17-01-56 PST Patrick Not even all people might use the shell script after all... 2020-03-26 12-19-02 PDT Patrick (you might want to check if static build still works btw, too. It caused problems in the past) 2020-03-19 15-03-14 PDT Patrick (although it's probably not too helpful right now) 2020-03-15 05-05-11 PDT Patrick np, thanks for checking the code! 2020-03-26 12-17-41 PDT Patrick Ah, I think tests are linked statically against libinkscape-base with your changes? 2020-03-04 10-05-53 PST Patrick Lack of time is a factor: If I had time to spare I would try to make the changes I suggested in your branch myself to see if they're viable. However as I'm currently spending my time on release-relevant things, I can only make the suggestion and have to depend on you to try to implement them. I'm not silencing anything, but if the feedback from you is "I don't see the need for a change" there's nothing I can work with (my original suggestion still stands, but I can not force you to try and implement it, and I currently won't spend time in it myself.) 2020-05-15 09-01-11 PDT Patrick It's not fixed yet but uses a shared library of 2geom as workaround 2020-03-26 12-23-37 PDT Patrick (or idd that fail as well) 2020-03-04 13-55-12 PST Patrick I could check locally if that helps (I have a Ubuntu VM 18.04 set-up). 2020-03-19 15-00-56 PDT Patrick (it's insanity that we link everything into one huge library right now - it's even causing problems, e.g. we can't currently do debug builds on Windows as there are too many symbols in the library) 2020-03-19 15-02-53 PDT Patrick At some point the hope was to get lib2geom packaged separately from Inkscape. 2020-03-26 09-04-59 PDT Patrick I looked at it and from reading the diff it should be fine. The primary thing I wanted to check was whether Windows CI passes (as I did not have the time to build locally yet). Unfortunately Windows CI was broken a while due to a row of broken updates in glibmm and mingw-w64 itself. Luckily that's all sorted out now. 2020-03-15 04-38-24 PDT Patrick No, Module mode is the default: 2020-03-07 16-55-09 PST Patrick That's true... if we want to ensure people see it we should probably add the waring to 2geom's CMakeLists.txt (and show it once `find_package(GTest REQUIRED MODULE)` fails) 2020-03-04 10-14-18 PST Patrick Wrt to the last sugestion: I'm not sure what your comment with "old style cmake 2.8" is referring to (I did suggest no such thing). What I suggested was to investigate _why_ the Ubuntu googletest/gmock packages are not found by the CMake module (I think you already have a rough idea) and attempt to fix the detection of the package rather than to download and build it manually. 2020-03-04 13-29-39 PST Patrick Well, let me know if/how I can help. We might be missing "libgmock-dev" (not available on Ubuntu 18.04 as it seems) 2020-03-26 09-05-58 PDT Patrick Feel free to rebase your MR to trigger a new CI build, otherwise I can do so later. 2020-03-26 12-20-15 PDT Patrick Oh, and I don't like https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/commit/e31698fb - I've removed that for a reason ;-) 2020-03-04 13-31-03 PST Patrick Create an MR with your changes as usual. 2020-03-07 15-58-28 PST Patrick I'll have a look tomorrow. Can we give general advice for affected users? (Possibly we could even print a warning explaining what to do?) 2020-05-07 13-41-15 PDT Patrick Well, I'm a Windows person, but that usually doesn't rule out that I try to fix Unix stuff ;-) 2020-03-04 13-20-56 PST Patrick We can add what we need here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-ci-docker/-/blob/master/install_depend… 2020-05-07 13-43-15 PDT Patrick It's OK if you don't want to try to fix the Windows part further , but I'm not sure when I find the time to investigate it myself. 2020-03-04 13-34-30 PST Patrick (`--full`) 2020-03-19 15-01-22 PDT Patrick (the default behavior) 2020-03-04 15-06-54 PST Patrick The files you're missing seem to be in `googletest`: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/googletest/filelist 2020-03-04 13-32-01 PST Patrick no, the file I linked. 2020-03-04 13-58-00 PST Patrick 18.04 is different. I think it misses something gmock-related.

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2020-09-26 09-54-00 PDT Significantcell Good night 2020-09-15 06-14-53 PDT Significantcell I use 2020-09-15 06-14-51 PDT Significantcell Ah, Ok 2020-09-15 06-11-06 PDT Significantcell I am not a native english speaker but I use grammarly to correct my typos when I write 2020-09-03 14-04-18 PDT Significantcell I hope you are doing very well 2020-09-15 06-10-23 PDT Significantcell I wanted just to help you 2020-09-26 09-53-08 PDT Significantcell Hello mate 2020-09-15 06-11-26 PDT Significantcell I greatly appreciate your contributions to inkscape 2020-09-26 09-53-15 PDT Significantcell You are doing a good job 2020-09-15 06-16-02 PDT Significantcell https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/microsoft-editor/gpaiobkfhnonedkh… 2020-09-15 06-10-16 PDT Significantcell Oh thanks! 2020-09-03 07-31-07 PDT Significantcell Hello Adam 2020-09-15 06-09-14 PDT Significantcell Sorry for disturbing you ;) 2020-09-15 06-12-53 PDT Significantcell Are you are aware about it? 2020-09-15 06-11-44 PDT Significantcell So I thought it is nice to suggest grammarly for you 2020-09-26 09-53-20 PDT Significantcell :) 2020-09-15 06-16-01 PDT Significantcell but unfortunately it works only chromium based browsers like google chrome, brave, etc 2020-09-15 06-15-06 PDT Significantcell Microsoft editor too, it works on rocket chat 2020-09-15 06-14-04 PDT Adam Belis it does nto work in rockat chat 2020-09-15 06-13-54 PDT Adam Belis :D thanks for suggestion . you will be surprised but i use grammarly :D (i know it does not look like it ) 2020-09-15 06-14-24 PDT Adam Belis i am just too lazy i guess :D 2020-09-26 09-53-40 PDT Adam Belis hi .. lol thanks 2020-09-03 13-08-51 PDT Adam Belis hi 2020-09-26 09-57-16 PDT Adam Belis night 2020-09-15 06-10-34 PDT Adam Belis how ? 2020-09-15 06-09-47 PDT Adam Belis hi can i help you somhow ?

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2020-03-02 04-39-16 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm not chrome user either. I picked it as most popular one. There should be no problem to do same for firefox. Now it's for everything it finds links to. 2020-03-02 02-32-50 PST Sergei Izmailov Sorry for direct messaging. Unfortunately my announce got little/no attention in devel chat. Probably it was not suitable channel. Here is the idea. The extension finds links to commits and adds direct link to corresponding AppImage artifact (if any). Fairly straightforward, but took me a while to figure out how to deal with it. I plan to do same for Mac and Windows bundles and finally publish the extension in store. It works now but it is still too raw to advertise to use it in a daily basis. It would be nice to get some feedback from potential users ahead of time. Can you help with it? 2020-03-02 15-12-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Yeah, there are options here. I'll consult with Martin and Patric when time comes 2019-05-29 13-23-29 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, here is email: sergei.a.izmailov(a)gmail.com and username: sizmailov 2019-05-29 13-40-24 PDT Sergei Izmailov The most difficult part in English is *correct* English. 2019-05-29 13-32-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov Ok, great) 2020-03-02 04-39-05 PST Sergei Izmailov AppImage links (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/F3rsGK8BJtAoz5NjY/AppImage%20links) 2019-05-29 13-28-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov Do you know ETA for 1.0 release? 2020-03-02 04-42-49 PST Sergei Izmailov It's matter of few API calls from web page. 2020-03-02 04-44-32 PST Sergei Izmailov I didn't experience 404 error so far. May be due to poor testing.. 2019-05-29 13-38-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov Nowadays all programming and science done in English. Basically we don't have a choice. 2019-05-29 13-34-07 PDT Sergei Izmailov I do 2020-03-02 04-50-08 PST Sergei Izmailov Can we host a page ourself? 2020-03-02 04-40-47 PST Sergei Izmailov The only Gitlab API problem I faced is the requirement for token with ultimate rights to read PUBLIC information. Now I'm using empty gitlab user token to do the trick. 2019-05-29 13-23-59 PDT Sergei Izmailov Ok, thanks! 2019-05-29 13-36-58 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm native russian, so for me it's not difficult at all) 2020-03-02 04-53-15 PST Sergei Izmailov Ok. It's better to know the problem to solve first :) 2020-03-02 04-42-29 PST Sergei Izmailov If you want to provide links on web page there should be no obstacles either 2020-03-02 04-53-19 PST Sergei Izmailov Thanks for input 2020-03-02 04-48-35 PST Sergei Izmailov WRT missing artifact. Last commit didn't run applimage:linux job 2020-04-26 01-39-26 PDT Sergei Izmailov Thanks for personal invite but I don't feel of myself as a literate person or one who can write motivating letters (I had nasty experience before ;) Nevertheless I partially filled forms, hope it helps 2020-03-02 15-08-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Win & MacOS already serve most recent links, I'll take a look at it and propose a MR for AppImage. Hopefully I'll be able to do it next week 2020-03-02 13-17-21 PST Sergei Izmailov This kind of indirection requires something that can issue several API quires in a row 2020-03-02 13-16-18 PST Sergei Izmailov You are right, `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/master/download?job=appimage%3Alinux` leads to 404 At the same time `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/456464633/artifacts/raw/Inkscape-2a7dc7f-x86_64.AppImage` works just fine. I don't know whether it's a gitlab bug or not. Of course latter is more cumbersome as it requires one to know job id and commit hash (as it's part of downloadable file) 2019-05-29 13-30-49 PDT Sergei Izmailov I see. I'm not really 100% confident in my english skill. May I ask someone to double check my wiki edits? 2020-03-02 04-45-24 PST Sergei Izmailov But the main purpose of browser extension is to help reviewers/testers 2019-05-29 13-35-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov :smiley: 2019-05-29 13-41-47 PDT Sergei Izmailov I don't use VPN at home. Things are not that bad as it could be. 2019-05-29 13-43-46 PDT Sergei Izmailov Have a good day. I enjoyed the conversation. ) 2020-03-02 02-26-41 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, I'm unfamiliar with reporters workflow, but I think a chrome extension can ease it a bit. https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=M7M3ci4dzzyhYn8kP () 2020-03-02 04-48-19 PST Sergei Izmailov It's still 5 clicks instead of 1... 2020-03-02 04-45-50 PST Sergei Izmailov (I think their time is most valuable) 2019-05-29 13-27-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov Done. Many thanks! 2020-03-02 04-46-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Which repo is it? 2020-03-02 04-41-26 PST Moini And they don't understand how that could be an issue... 2020-03-02 04-50-16 PST Moini Another option would be to make a GitLab MR with your suggestion. 2019-05-29 13-42-23 PDT Moini That's good! It's also difficult for us, because of the script/language barrier, to know how things are. 2019-05-29 13-37-46 PDT Moini (I meant the English for you) 2019-05-29 13-29-31 PDT Moini So, nothing concrete. 2020-03-02 04-50-41 PST Moini We already have a server that can run small scripts and provide links. 2019-05-29 13-29-24 PDT Moini (last time Bryce said something about it) 2020-03-02 15-10-50 PST Moini Best ask Martin and Patrick about how to best make it so it can be available on the website. 2019-05-29 13-34-18 PDT Moini Dobroy vecher :) 2019-05-29 13-32-00 PDT Moini It's just important that the info is available, and you as the person who wrote it know best what the change is doing. 2020-03-02 04-53-53 PST Moini Thanks for your dedication, it's good that you're helping us here! 2020-03-02 04-47-02 PST Moini Testers know where to find artifacts, I think. 2020-03-02 04-43-22 PST Moini And if the build failed, to the latest one that succeeded. 2019-05-29 13-35-28 PDT Moini I can still read it, though. Just don't understand what I read :joy: 2019-05-29 13-28-23 PDT Moini Thank *you* for contributing to Inkscape, Sergei! 2020-03-02 15-10-03 PST Moini (sometimes, people need to click through several pages of the jobs page, that's quite a bit time-consuming) 2019-05-29 13-23-51 PDT Moini I'll set up a Wiki account for you... Wait a minute. 2020-03-02 04-32-55 PST Moini Interesting idea - I'm not using Chrome though. If you want to find testers, try the forum or the user mailing list. Which version do you think is the most important one to test? If this is mainly for most recent master / most recent 1.0.x, and not for bug triage (I think those people know where they are supposed to find downloadable files, esp. on Linux, and bug fixers will link to the correct packages directly when they ask someone to test their new feature/fix), I know of another place where this would be more important. This is the official download page on the website. We do have direct links to the latest macOS and Windows builds - however, there is a GitLab bug blocking us from being able to provide a reliable link for Linux AppImages. It's probably possible to automate the instructions that we currently have on the website for that case. 2020-03-02 15-12-48 PST Moini Thanks, that would be cool! 2019-05-29 14-09-38 PDT Moini Early september: release ! 2020-03-02 04-47-20 PST Moini Either someone links to it for them, or they already know their way around. 2020-03-02 04-45-46 PST Moini Currently, the link is missing entirely... https://imgur.com/CdU61P0.png 2019-05-29 13-41-02 PDT Moini As long as it's understandable, you don't need to worry about Inkscapers. 2019-05-29 13-37-57 PDT Moini (but I guess you got that) 2019-05-29 13-33-59 PDT Moini You speak Russian? 2019-05-29 13-31-04 PDT Moini Yes, of course. 2020-04-25 14-58-52 PDT Moini Hi Sergei! I think you've contributed quite a lot of smart things to the 1.0 release (at least I rarely understood anything ;-) ). If you're up for it, we are currently doing this contributor interview at https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 - I think it would be interesting to hear from you, too! 2020-03-02 04-46-06 PST Moini Oops. 2019-05-29 13-41-25 PDT Moini Except China. 2019-05-29 13-32-15 PDT Moini So, don't worry about that. 2020-03-02 04-48-53 PST Moini It should still be in the 'previous' list... 2019-05-29 13-34-41 PDT Moini (I don't remember much from my Russian course, it's long ago ) 2019-05-29 13-39-40 PDT Moini Probably an additional barrier. 2020-03-02 04-46-36 PST Moini https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/ 2020-03-02 15-11-36 PST Moini I don't know which way to put this online would be preferred. 2020-03-02 04-47-42 PST Moini It's the casual beta testers who cannot find things. 2020-03-02 04-49-34 PST Moini Or at least there should be an easy way to provide it directly from the website, where people come to download things. 2020-03-02 15-09-12 PST Moini It's not urgent, this issue exists for quite some time. But it would really be nice to have a solution for it :D 2019-05-29 14-09-15 PDT Moini Just got to reading my emails. Marc provided an updated roadmap for the release there: - As soon as possible: 1.0~alpha2 - Between mid-june and end of june (when toolbar and immediately noticeable bugs are fixed): 1.0~beta - End of June: Feature freeze and 1.0 branch - End of July: String freeze - Between mid-june and mid-august: bug hunt! 2019-05-29 13-42-54 PDT Moini Anyway, have a great evening, Sergei! 2019-05-29 14-09-53 PDT Moini (on the developer's mailing list) 2020-03-02 15-03-57 PST Moini The bug report is here: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-foss/issues/45697 (and it was closed by Gitlab) 2019-05-29 13-26-00 PDT Moini Your Wiki password is now ui5ahK0Eih . Please change it as soon as possible! Wiki usernames always start with a capital letter, so use Sizmailov when trying to log in :) 2019-05-29 13-23-41 PDT Moini Thanks! 2020-03-02 04-41-12 PST Moini It often gives a 404 for the latest build artifacts. 2019-05-29 13-29-01 PDT Moini 'Sometime this summer or fall' 2019-05-29 13-39-59 PDT Moini Aside from needing VPN for some things, I guess. 2020-04-26 09-52-45 PDT Moini Yes! Thank you, Sergei! Not everyone needs to create a work of word art. If there are only people who can write great texts, who would do the good and solid programming? 2020-03-02 15-01-20 PST Moini Yes, it basically needs to do the set of instructions here: https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-master/gnulinux/appimage/dl/ - only automagically. And with a max depth, so it won't take forever ;-) 2019-05-29 13-41-34 PDT Moini And Africa. 2020-03-02 04-51-19 PST Moini Or it could be an official part of the website code, of course. 2019-05-29 13-31-27 PDT Moini (I'll be editing there a lot anyway, and we might get the help of a documentation writer with it, too) 2020-03-02 04-48-11 PST Moini They'd only be confused. 2020-03-02 04-47-53 PST Moini But they don't need all those various commits. 2019-05-29 13-37-22 PDT Moini :) 2020-03-02 04-52-44 PST Moini Need to go now - if you want to go further with this, you can talk with Martin / doctormo about implementation details. 2020-03-02 04-46-03 PST Moini Oh, I guess that was the wrong repo... 2020-03-02 15-11-21 PST Moini js, python, ... fixed link on alpha, or part of inkscape-web etc. 2019-05-29 13-39-21 PDT Moini Yes, that's true. 2020-03-02 04-51-04 PST Moini It's where inkchatbot lives, for example. 2019-05-29 13-41-16 PDT Moini They are used to people coming from everywhere. 2020-03-02 04-42-59 PST Moini It only needs one to latest master AppImage and latest 1.0.x AppImage... 2019-05-29 13-36-03 PDT Moini So I can imagine how difficult it must be. 2020-03-02 04-46-23 PST Moini No, correct...

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2020-01-18 12-59-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Here are my results ``` Inkscape 1.1-dev (031d86a, 2020-01-16) 0.29879935100325383 s Inkscape 1.1-dev (4cfd59b, 2020-01-17) 0.35072101598780137 s Inkscape 1.0beta2 (43f5480, 2020-01-18) 0.3234521280101035 s ``` 2020-01-26 09-05-48 PST Sergei Izmailov (the cusp part) 2020-01-18 14-30-21 PST Sergei Izmailov i have skype and discord 2020-01-18 13-33-01 PST Sergei Izmailov what is wrong? 2020-01-19 08-25-42 PST Sergei Izmailov you have "def" in the middle of file 2020-01-18 13-00-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Numbers tend to differ by approx 0.1 second 2020-01-26 09-01-14 PST Sergei Izmailov I tested builds around my MR 2020-01-18 14-24-51 PST Sergei Izmailov hm 2020-01-18 13-53-22 PST Sergei Izmailov Why all files are 0 KB on your screenshot? 2020-01-26 11-40-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Too many moving parts are involved to wrap head around it. Maybe I'll get to this some time later 2020-01-18 14-27-31 PST Sergei Izmailov there is no such file 2020-01-18 14-04-53 PST Sergei Izmailov Paths are correct, right 2020-01-26 09-16-20 PST Sergei Izmailov My code may only alter the node type 2020-01-18 13-26-27 PST Sergei Izmailov That happens to everyone at first 2020-01-18 14-23-24 PST Sergei Izmailov i mean 2020-01-18 13-39-57 PST Sergei Izmailov wow, that strange 2020-03-02 02-22-38 PST Sergei Izmailov Cool. Sorry for direct messaging. Unfortunately my announce got little/no attention in devel chat. It works now but it is still too raw to advertise to use it in a daily basis and not instllable from store. 2020-01-18 13-05-02 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you start python interpreter in console? 2020-01-18 12-41-45 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, I think I'm finished with the benchmark script 2020-01-18 13-14-50 PST Sergei Izmailov Did it work? 2020-01-26 09-39-45 PST Sergei Izmailov inkscape build is quite ~~slow~~ long 2020-01-18 13-52-02 PST Sergei Izmailov 32 should work on both 2020-01-18 14-04-55 PST Sergei Izmailov ? 2020-01-18 14-13-19 PST Sergei Izmailov add just two print lines to the script 2020-01-18 14-06-50 PST Sergei Izmailov it's not a bundle 2020-01-18 08-43-25 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-01-18 14-34-59 PST Sergei Izmailov greenmaus#3201 2020-01-18 14-32-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Let me find the "add" button 2020-03-01 01-17-31 PST Sergei Izmailov The extension finds links to commits and adds direct link to corresponding AppImage artifact (if any) 2020-01-26 11-36-17 PST Sergei Izmailov you mean "sodipodi:nodetype"? 2020-01-18 08-48-49 PST Sergei Izmailov Correctness check is a separate task. No need to do all at once 2020-01-26 09-01-27 PST Sergei Izmailov The nodes are cusp, but shape is preserved 2020-01-18 13-22-02 PST Sergei Izmailov Should end with `python.exe` 2020-01-18 14-34-48 PST Sergei Izmailov not sure how many identities this one have 2020-01-18 13-13-27 PST Sergei Izmailov command in console should be `"C:\.....\WindowsApps\python3" run_benchmark.py` 2020-01-18 12-52-42 PST Sergei Izmailov type `cmd` - you will see the console 2020-01-18 13-25-23 PST Sergei Izmailov It creates file, but fails to start inkscape 2020-01-18 14-03-21 PST Sergei Izmailov Is it better now? 2020-01-18 12-46-01 PST Sergei Izmailov Cool 2020-01-18 14-13-45 PST Sergei Izmailov don't use tabs, spaces only 2020-01-19 08-23-17 PST Sergei Izmailov Seems to be more or less correct 2020-01-18 14-21-04 PST Sergei Izmailov ```python #!/usr/bin/python3 import subprocess import shutil, os from timeit import default_timer as timer def measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, verbs): temp_svg = "temp.svg" shutil.copyfile(input_svg, temp_svg) cmd = ([inkscape_executable, f"--verb={';'.join(verbs)}", temp_svg]) # print(" ".join(cmd)) t1 = timer() subprocess.call(cmd, stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL) t2 = timer() os.remove(temp_svg) # comment out this line to check results of inkscape invocation return t2 - t1 def inkscape_version(inkscape_executable): output = subprocess.check_output([ inkscape_executable, "--version" ], stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL).decode('utf-8') for line in output.split('\n'): if "Inkscape" in line: return line return "Unknown" def measure_object_to_path(inkscape_executable, input_svg): action_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] base_line_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] # cold run to minimize measurement errors measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) # actual measurements baseline = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) payload = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, action_verbs) return payload - baseline if __name__ == "__main__": inkscape_executables = [ "./Inkscape-031d86a-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-4cfd59b-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] test_file = "100-spirals.svg" with open("results.txt", "w") as results: for exe in inkscape_executables: print(os.path.abspath(os.curdir)) print(exe) version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) ``` 2020-01-18 13-35-44 PST Sergei Izmailov so it did work? 2020-01-18 13-51-47 PST Sergei Izmailov probably yes 2020-01-18 13-48-06 PST Sergei Izmailov What a windows mistery 2020-01-18 12-53-36 PST Sergei Izmailov type `cd "C:\path\to\bench"` 2020-01-18 13-38-17 PST Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/adam.belis?msg=iq8ix8DGyFYz9hC6M) is path same as here? () 2020-01-19 08-25-34 PST Sergei Izmailov oh 2020-01-18 13-17-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Did you type it right? 2020-01-18 14-33-19 PST Sergei Izmailov it says there are many of you 2020-01-18 12-45-30 PST Sergei Izmailov within `if __name__==` clause 2020-01-18 15-24-59 PST Sergei Izmailov Ok, thanks 2020-01-18 13-11-30 PST Sergei Izmailov find it's absolute path 2020-01-18 14-28-54 PST Sergei Izmailov show your script again 2020-01-18 12-58-16 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm not using windows on daily basis. Just read that you can click on script to run it 2020-01-26 09-37-55 PST Sergei Izmailov Let's see if it would help 2020-01-18 13-39-22 PST Sergei Izmailov now you are using powershell 2020-01-18 08-58-09 PST Sergei Izmailov Thanks! 2020-01-18 12-53-42 PST Sergei Izmailov with proper path to benchmark 2020-01-18 13-00-34 PST Sergei Izmailov sure 2020-01-18 12-43-46 PST Sergei Izmailov bench-inkscape.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/bc7aWzAoYnnreSkvr/bench-inkscape.zip) 2020-01-18 14-12-52 PST Sergei Izmailov what does it print? 2020-01-18 13-21-11 PST Sergei Izmailov The path on last screenshot doesn't match to what you've shown earlier with explorer 2020-01-18 13-20-15 PST Sergei Izmailov Can't you run pyton3.8? 2020-01-18 15-40-48 PST Sergei Izmailov I remember a friend of mine running inkscape on a quite decent laptop and it was extreemly slow 2020-01-18 13-22-04 PST Sergei Izmailov right 2020-01-19 08-23-21 PST Sergei Izmailov let me check 2020-01-26 09-14-22 PST Sergei Izmailov Actually not really. It seems like the doc's patch is responsible for that 2020-01-18 14-21-14 PST Sergei Izmailov should look like this 2020-01-18 14-23-21 PST Sergei Izmailov to console 2020-01-19 08-26-42 PST Sergei Izmailov compare to original file 2020-01-18 13-09-32 PST Sergei Izmailov 2. you can verify it by `dir` command 2020-01-18 14-09-50 PST Sergei Izmailov add two prints just to see where we are and what is `exe` 2020-01-26 09-04-48 PST Sergei Izmailov Nodes are cusp even for single circle 2020-01-18 14-26-56 PST Sergei Izmailov no 2020-01-18 13-47-59 PST Sergei Izmailov You didn't change single file in the directory 2020-01-19 08-25-25 PST Sergei Izmailov did work for me 2020-01-26 11-36-48 PST Sergei Izmailov this error seems to be with arc->path conversion 2020-01-26 11-35-45 PST Sergei Izmailov some change just triggered it 2020-01-18 08-52-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Do you know python? 2020-01-18 14-17-38 PST Sergei Izmailov same button as ~ 2020-01-18 13-25-01 PST Sergei Izmailov why not? 2020-01-26 09-06-10 PST Sergei Izmailov Another part is that this conversion simply done wrong 2020-01-18 12-45-15 PST Sergei Izmailov The important part is at the bottom 2020-01-18 12-56-33 PST Sergei Izmailov paths to inkscape executables in `run_benchmarks.py` could be relative or absolute 2020-01-18 14-32-34 PST Sergei Izmailov It says "Add Server" 2020-01-18 08-57-45 PST Sergei Izmailov I saw artifacts for linux and mac, but not for windows. 2020-01-18 14-17-48 PST Sergei Izmailov but without shift 2020-01-18 12-47-19 PST Sergei Izmailov At the end it prints time difference between `['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit']` and `['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit']` 2020-01-18 08-46-09 PST Sergei Izmailov By the way is there any performance testing in CI? I doubt they exist as it would require stable environment (same machine, number of free cores, etc) 2020-01-18 14-14-45 PST Sergei Izmailov file is saved? 2020-01-18 14-15-03 PST Sergei Izmailov can't be 2020-01-19 08-35-30 PST Sergei Izmailov you are welcom 2020-01-18 14-18-42 PST Sergei Izmailov remove first one 2020-01-26 08-49-18 PST Sergei Izmailov yes, by doctormo 2020-01-18 13-34-08 PST Sergei Izmailov Should not matter 2020-01-18 08-44-17 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you tell how you measure performance? 2020-01-18 13-58-02 PST Sergei Izmailov second 2020-01-18 14-27-55 PST Sergei Izmailov it cannot find `C:\....\inkscape.exe` 2020-01-26 09-38-36 PST Sergei Izmailov :) 2020-01-26 09-38-30 PST Sergei Izmailov On success it would be one char MR 2020-01-18 13-38-58 PST Sergei Izmailov right. 2020-01-26 09-02-01 PST Sergei Izmailov The latest master build is broken 2020-01-18 12-43-09 PST Sergei Izmailov Damn. Cannot attach .py here 2020-03-01 01-16-03 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, can you tell which browser do you use? Would something like https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=M7M3ci4dzzyhYn8kP be helpful for you (except it would be appveyor and windows)? () 2020-01-18 14-17-09 PST Sergei Izmailov ``` ``` 2020-01-26 08-52-21 PST Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/1337 2020-01-18 08-56-07 PST Sergei Izmailov One more question. How do you obtain inkscape builds? 2020-01-18 13-43-33 PST Sergei Izmailov so you cannot start python from start menu either? 2020-01-18 14-25-03 PST Sergei Izmailov you covered interseting part with ptyhon screen 2020-01-18 14-27-16 PST Sergei Izmailov it 's usually what it says it is 2020-01-18 14-21-53 PST Sergei Izmailov did it? 2020-01-26 09-41-56 PST Sergei Izmailov To become a computational physicist I had to develop some sys admin skills. not a big trouble at my side 2020-01-18 14-05-39 PST Sergei Izmailov did you save the file? 2020-01-26 09-39-37 PST Sergei Izmailov I'll be back in hours 2020-01-18 08-51-20 PST Sergei Izmailov Good idea with number of spirals by the way 2020-01-18 12-44-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Indeed. It wouldn't trick gmail thogh 2020-01-18 13-23-10 PST Sergei Izmailov Still no luck? 2020-01-18 08-53-59 PST Sergei Izmailov I have to go right now, I'll be back in a couple of hours (hopefully with benchmark script) 2020-01-18 12-51-33 PST Sergei Izmailov I pasted whole file to ease patching :) 2020-01-18 13-50-50 PST Sergei Izmailov https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.8.1/ 2020-01-18 12-48-12 PST Sergei Izmailov say `results.txt` 2020-01-26 08-52-45 PST Sergei Izmailov is directly related to unions 2020-01-18 14-08-10 PST Sergei Izmailov can work i guess, but it's so dirty 2020-01-26 11-38-52 PST Sergei Izmailov What I meant is that converted arcs should have smooth nodetype after convertion no matter what 2020-01-18 12-49-56 PST Sergei Izmailov ```python #!/usr/bin/python3 import subprocess import shutil, os from timeit import default_timer as timer def measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, verbs): temp_svg = "temp.svg" shutil.copyfile(input_svg, temp_svg) cmd = ([inkscape_executable, f"--verb={';'.join(verbs)}", temp_svg]) # print(" ".join(cmd)) t1 = timer() subprocess.call(cmd, stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL) t2 = timer() os.remove(temp_svg) # comment out this line to check results of inkscape invocation return t2 - t1 def inkscape_version(inkscape_executable): output = subprocess.check_output([ inkscape_executable, "--version" ], stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL).decode('utf-8') for line in output.split('\n'): if "Inkscape" in line: return line return "Unknown" def measure_object_to_path(inkscape_executable, input_svg): action_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] base_line_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] # cold run to minimize measurement errors measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) # actual measurements baseline = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) payload = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, action_verbs) return payload - baseline if __name__ == "__main__": inkscape_executables = [ "./Inkscape-031d86a-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-4cfd59b-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] test_file = "100-spirals.svg" with open("results.txt", "w") as results: for exe in inkscape_executables: version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) ``` 2020-01-18 12-52-11 PST Sergei Izmailov Back to question "how to run" 2020-01-18 13-49-25 PST Sergei Izmailov https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44394965/cant-run-python-on-windows-any… 2020-01-18 14-08-14 PST Sergei Izmailov :) 2020-01-18 13-33-04 PST Sergei Izmailov didn't get it 2020-01-26 09-36-47 PST Sergei Izmailov Let me test one idea, my be it will fix that 2020-01-18 13-37-56 PST Sergei Izmailov but you were able to start python, what's changed? 2020-03-01 01-17-55 PST Sergei Izmailov Fairly straightforward, but took me a while to figure out how to deal with it. 2020-01-18 08-50-07 PST Sergei Izmailov something like this 2020-01-18 14-33-06 PST Sergei Izmailov found 2020-01-18 13-44-15 PST Sergei Izmailov hell, i don't understand what's going on 2020-01-18 13-39-29 PST Sergei Izmailov it used to be plain cmd 2020-01-18 13-24-26 PST Sergei Izmailov is path to exe correct? 2020-01-18 08-58-16 PST Sergei Izmailov Yeah, found 2020-01-18 15-42-14 PST Sergei Izmailov 10x is quite a lot, meaning there is whole room of optimizations. Maybe not in inkscape itself... 2020-01-26 11-34-32 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm not sure what exactly is going on there 2020-01-18 13-05-44 PST Sergei Izmailov to folder with script and 100-spirals 2020-01-18 14-29-02 PST Sergei Izmailov can you share screen? 2020-01-18 13-09-38 PST Sergei Izmailov it should show .py and .svg 2020-01-18 12-44-28 PST Sergei Izmailov Zip has two files: 100-spirals.svg is ... 100 spirals 2020-01-18 14-11-32 PST Sergei Izmailov yep 2020-01-18 08-49-19 PST Sergei Izmailov I think actions/verbs can give better time resolution and it can be automated 2020-01-18 12-47-55 PST Sergei Izmailov It prints results in console 2020-01-26 09-37-44 PST Sergei Izmailov Going to change ```cpp int const num_sectors = abs(sang - eang) * 2 / M_PI + 1; ``` to ```cpp int const num_sectors = abs(sang - eang) * 4 / M_PI + 1; ``` 2020-01-18 14-34-28 PST Sergei Izmailov i'm `greenmaus` 2020-01-19 08-26-33 PST Sergei Izmailov `with ` and what follows should be 4 spaces right 2020-01-26 11-35-27 PST Sergei Izmailov I think the problem might be somewhere else 2020-01-18 14-01-28 PST Sergei Izmailov forget what I said about escaping 2020-01-18 12-54-03 PST Sergei Izmailov Note quotes, they are most likely necessary 2020-01-18 14-20-50 PST Sergei Izmailov right, you are not familar with programming 2020-01-18 14-05-55 PST Sergei Izmailov I think first one 2020-01-18 13-34-52 PST Sergei Izmailov You can start with one inkscape to test it's wokring 2020-01-18 13-10-36 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you find pytohn in "start" menu 2020-01-18 08-53-13 PST Sergei Izmailov No problem :) 2020-01-18 13-09-58 PST Sergei Izmailov Let's find out where your python executable is 2020-01-18 12-54-36 PST Sergei Izmailov now you should be able to call the script by `python3 run_benchmarks.py` 2020-01-18 14-06-11 PST Sergei Izmailov copy `inkscape.exe` to folder with script 2020-01-18 13-41-48 PST Sergei Izmailov There must be some starter python pack for windows to make it easy to start, just as in linux:) 2020-01-18 08-50-03 PST Sergei Izmailov `time inkscape --actions='select-all;path-to-objects;exit' sample.svg` 2020-01-18 13-01-54 PST Sergei Izmailov results.txt should appear in same directory 2020-01-26 09-02-24 PST Sergei Izmailov It might be possible to bisect 2020-01-18 14-01-51 PST Sergei Izmailov Just add `r` before the strings 2020-01-18 14-13-35 PST Sergei Izmailov the surrounding should give idea where they should be 2020-01-18 14-16-15 PST Sergei Izmailov tripple back quotes 2020-01-26 08-52-56 PST Sergei Izmailov and is also recent change 2020-01-18 13-21-30 PST Sergei Izmailov last part is missing 2020-01-19 08-33-07 PST Sergei Izmailov sometimes i just can't read what you type :) 2020-01-18 13-02-06 PST Sergei Izmailov and inkscape should show and close for a moment 2020-01-18 12-51-46 PST Sergei Izmailov No, you need to specify bundles for win 2020-01-26 11-36-30 PST Sergei Izmailov i don't think so 2020-01-18 13-54-04 PST Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/adam.belis?msg=okGR2MdeE2s4h8oaP) this one () 2020-01-18 12-45-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you read through it? 2020-01-18 12-46-39 PST Sergei Izmailov What it does: It runs inkscape and instructs it with "verb"s 2020-01-18 12-52-36 PST Sergei Izmailov Hit `win+R` - a prompt should appear 2020-01-18 14-06-41 PST Sergei Izmailov No, it would not work 2020-01-18 14-14-19 PST Sergei Izmailov why it didn't print anything? 2020-01-18 14-17-26 PST Sergei Izmailov it's above the "TAB" 2020-01-18 13-25-47 PST Sergei Izmailov of course, those are linux bundles 2020-01-19 08-25-59 PST Sergei Izmailov You broke indentation 2020-01-18 14-30-08 PST Sergei Izmailov I can start video call, but 's not what we want 2020-01-18 12-55-58 PST Sergei Izmailov Not necessary, but could be 2020-01-18 13-47-45 PST Sergei Izmailov How it broke? 2020-01-18 13-59-37 PST Sergei Izmailov I think you can just replace bacslashes `\` with normal ones `/` 2020-01-26 09-16-01 PST Sergei Izmailov For sure 2020-01-18 14-34-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Clipboard - January 19, 2020 1:33 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/rTYgAHXy4wLHRdBup/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-09-32 PST Sergei Izmailov ```python for exe in inkscape_executables: print(os.path.abspath(os.curdir)) print(exe) version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) ``` 2020-01-18 12-48-06 PST Sergei Izmailov I can change it to file 2020-01-18 14-02-07 PST Sergei Izmailov so it would be `r"C:\Users...` 2020-01-18 14-29-24 PST Sergei Izmailov I never tried 2020-01-18 08-45-13 PST Sergei Izmailov Maybe I can help to create the benchmark 2020-01-18 13-08-43 PST Sergei Izmailov 1. Can you start interpreter? 2. Can you change to desired directory? 2020-01-19 08-27-34 PST Sergei Izmailov It might be not a bad idea to learn python. It's everywhere nowadays 2020-01-18 13-19-51 PST Sergei Izmailov May be I'm trying to do it "linux way" 2020-01-18 14-18-39 PST Sergei Izmailov you added extra for loop 2020-01-26 11-34-11 PST Sergei Izmailov nyah, didn't work 2020-01-26 11-35-02 PST Sergei Izmailov number of segments doesn't affect number of nodes 2020-01-18 12-44-36 PST Sergei Izmailov and run_benchmark.py 2020-01-18 08-54-13 PST Sergei Izmailov Thanks for investigating it! 2020-01-18 08-50-57 PST Sergei Izmailov I can show you and/or do it mysefl 2020-01-18 12-55-18 PST Sergei Izmailov or whatever python executable name is 2020-01-18 13-40-24 PST Sergei Izmailov i had my machine running years without reboots) 2020-01-26 11-42-26 PST Sergei Izmailov ok 2020-01-18 08-52-05 PST Sergei Izmailov Do you use linux/windows. How comfortable are you with console? 2020-01-18 14-00-29 PST Sergei Izmailov You can use backslash, but you need to "escape" it 2020-01-18 13-21-23 PST Sergei Izmailov Oh 2020-01-26 08-50-50 PST Sergei Izmailov You mean the path is distorted, right? 2020-01-18 13-51-41 PST Sergei Izmailov is your pc 64 bit? 2020-01-26 09-05-36 PST Sergei Izmailov The problem is that arc->cubic bezier is done with insufficient precision 2020-01-18 12-48-26 PST Sergei Izmailov do you have python3? 2020-01-18 14-00-37 PST Sergei Izmailov `\` -> `\\` 2020-01-18 13-52-09 PST Sergei Izmailov 64 is preferable 2020-01-18 14-17-58 PST Sergei Izmailov yay 2020-01-18 14-21-44 PST Sergei Izmailov yes, but it should print someting in front 2020-01-18 13-25-34 PST Sergei Izmailov so the file is empty 2020-01-19 10-01-04 PST Sergei Izmailov All three are same within error, right? 2020-01-26 09-02-11 PST Sergei Izmailov It distorts all the way 2020-01-18 14-28-15 PST Adam Belis i will try to chage slashes 2020-01-18 13-08-14 PST Adam Belis ok this stil did not work 2020-01-18 08-50-00 PST Adam Belis what do you mean under actions and verbs 2020-01-19 08-16-25 PST Adam Belis i addet this from datetime import datetime and than i tried to add it to the file name but it does not work but i can print it in txt no problem 2020-01-26 11-36-51 PST Adam Belis he saied the problem was always there 2020-01-18 14-13-04 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:13 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/6gqWfMtZMCoaJ24u6/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 08-48-40 PST Adam Belis and i just did scren recoriding and than checked it in cuting softver how long it took 2020-01-18 14-13-57 PST Adam Belis yes that was my istake 2020-01-18 13-43-43 PST Adam Belis nope 2020-01-18 14-27-31 PST Adam Belis i dont understnad what it cannot find 2020-01-18 14-13-51 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:13 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/Rn9BAHyTTXgQaSAD7/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-32-10 PST Adam Belis green 2020-01-18 12-51-43 PST Adam Belis thenks i replaced it 2020-01-18 13-06-15 PST Adam Belis aaaaaaaaaaaah ima idiot 2020-01-18 14-07-25 PST Adam Belis so i should do it other way around 2020-01-18 13-44-02 PST Adam Belis v 2020-01-19 08-23-46 PST Adam Belis it dont want to run if i do this 2020-01-18 13-48-18 PST Adam Belis its jusa say i have wrong verion of pyton for my pc 2020-01-18 13-36-51 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:36 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/fBiBvsmn9DwR2T8kL/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-57-46 PST Adam Belis aaand we have a new error 2020-01-18 08-50-58 PST Adam Belis but agree that would be better test BUT there is also possibility that maybe ther is som bechmarking already in ink but i dont know about it 2020-01-18 13-54-56 PST Adam Belis sohow 2020-01-18 14-15-57 PST Adam Belis sorry stil didn learn marking 2020-01-18 14-04-10 PST Adam Belis as i send you 2020-01-18 14-34-10 PST Adam Belis :D 2020-01-26 09-00-05 PST Adam Belis yop its broken in all builds 2020-01-26 09-40-37 PST Adam Belis :D 2020-01-18 14-30-10 PST Adam Belis zoom 2020-01-18 13-43-39 PST Adam Belis actualty for sure most of ppl say its easy 2020-01-26 09-37-05 PST Adam Belis go ahead :D 2020-01-19 10-01-55 PST Adam Belis so i think its ok to try to merg this to master 2020-01-18 14-05-42 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 13-39-50 PST Adam Belis it gives mi that blu error 2020-01-18 14-11-23 PST Adam Belis prints ? 2020-01-26 08-52-13 PST Adam Belis yop 2020-01-26 11-34-43 PST Adam Belis hmmm thats too bad 2020-01-18 15-39-59 PST Adam Belis also i should try to side load linux to text performece on inux maybe my pc is just busted :D 2020-01-18 14-29-43 PST Adam Belis i dont think so 2020-01-18 08-56-40 PST Adam Belis there are outo builds here 2020-01-18 14-23-28 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-18 08-52-52 PST Adam Belis but i can kind a read it 2020-01-18 12-48-17 PST Adam Belis ok noob question how do i run it ? :D 2020-01-18 13-24-52 PST Adam Belis yes i think i run but i dont tnik it could open verisons of ink 2020-01-18 13-43-47 PST Adam Belis not even form that place 2020-01-18 13-10-06 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:10 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/DEvmdTeLXjzxRpyLm/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-24-12 PST Adam Belis we are moving but stil go empty exe 2020-01-26 09-04-58 PST Adam Belis yes thats also new problem :D 2020-01-18 13-33-59 PST Adam Belis i think 2020-01-18 14-22-51 PST Adam Belis nope it did not 2020-01-18 14-14-27 PST Adam Belis dont know 2020-01-18 13-05-31 PST Adam Belis d "C:\path\to\bench" is this path sous to be to one sesific build ? 2020-01-18 13-37-11 PST Adam Belis wel that time when i had wrong paths for ink 2020-01-26 09-42-34 PST Adam Belis oh yes . k now its not that hard i am just dont care about that that much 2020-01-18 08-58-38 PST Adam Belis np 2020-01-26 11-35-04 PST Adam Belis i can just test 2020-01-18 13-39-54 PST Adam Belis one sec 2020-01-18 13-21-41 PST Adam Belis last part of what ? 2020-01-26 08-51-23 PST Adam Belis wait 2020-01-18 12-55-39 PST Adam Belis ok and py should be in that folder where is inkscape right ? 2020-01-18 13-33-48 PST Adam Belis hmmm maybe coz i added 0.94 2020-03-02 02-23-43 PST Adam Belis dont worry about it i am glad that you wroth me ... but in last few days my computer is broken and im woring on fixing on it 2020-01-18 08-48-06 PST Adam Belis i dont know if this does even test what it sous to do 2020-01-18 13-44-01 PST Adam Belis i am ging to dowlad diffrent 2020-01-18 14-04-16 PST Adam Belis it creates txt 2020-01-18 13-39-39 PST Adam Belis iam goign to restar pc 2020-01-18 08-52-31 PST Adam Belis not that much but i used it few times 2020-01-18 13-52-07 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:52 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/vbSgDpdaXc8krCSqm/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-15-24 PST Adam Belis ```#!/usr/bin/python3 import subprocess import shutil, os from timeit import default_timer as timer def measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, verbs): temp_svg = "temp.svg" shutil.copyfile(input_svg, temp_svg) cmd = ([inkscape_executable, f"--verb={';'.join(verbs)}", temp_svg]) # print(" ".join(cmd)) t1 = timer() subprocess.call(cmd, stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL) t2 = timer() os.remove(temp_svg) # comment out this line to check results of inkscape invocation return t2 - t1 def inkscape_version(inkscape_executable): output = subprocess.check_output([ inkscape_executable, "--version" ], stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL).decode('utf-8') for line in output.split('\n'): if "Inkscape" in line: return line return "Unknown" def measure_object_to_path(inkscape_executable, input_svg): action_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] base_line_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] # cold run to minimize measurement errors measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) # actual measurements baseline = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) payload = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, action_verbs) return payload - baseline if __name__ == "__main__": inkscape_executables = [ r"C:\Users\Adam\Downloads\inkscape-1.1-dev_2020-01-17_abe53df-x64\inkscape\bin\inkcape.exe", # "C:/Users/Adam/Downloads/inkscape-1.1-dev_2020-01-17_abe53df-x64 - 1/inkscape/bin/inkcape.exe", #r"C:\Users\Adam\Downloads\inkscape-0.92.4_2020-01-12_3ab3b9f-x64\inkscape\ink…" ] test_file = "100-spirals.svg" with open("results.txt", "w") as results: for exe in inkscape_executables: version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) for exe in inkscape_executables: print(os.path.abspath(os.curdir)) print(exe) version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) 2020-01-18 14-20-33 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-19 08-15-29 PST Adam Belis can i annoy you lite bit ? i am tring to add curretn date adn time to name of the file (so it does not get overwrite every time you run it ) but cannot find out correct way to add it ``` #!/usr/bin/python3 import subprocess import shutil, os from datetime import datetime from timeit import default_timer as timer def measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, verbs): temp_svg = "temp.svg" shutil.copyfile(input_svg, temp_svg) cmd = ([inkscape_executable, f"--verb={';'.join(verbs)}", temp_svg]) # print(" ".join(cmd)) t1 = timer() subprocess.call(cmd, stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL) t2 = timer() os.remove(temp_svg) # comment out this line to check results of inkscape invocation return t2 - t1 def inkscape_version(inkscape_executable): output = subprocess.check_output([ inkscape_executable, "--version" ], stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL).decode('utf-8') for line in output.split('\n'): if "Inkscape" in line: return line return "Unknown" def measure_object_to_path(inkscape_executable, input_svg): action_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] base_line_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] # cold run to minimize measurement errors measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) # actual measurements baseline = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) payload = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, action_verbs) return payload - baseline def if __name__ == "__main__": # Add paths for inscape builds you want to test inkscape_executables = [ r"D:\Downloads\inkscape-1.1-dev_2020-01-17_abe53df-x64\bin\inkscape.exe", r"D:\Downloads\inkscape-1.0beta2_2020-01-18_43f5480-x64\bin\inkscape.exe", #"./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] test_file = "100-spirals.svg" with open("results" + (datetime.now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S')) + ".txt", "w") as results: for exe in inkscape_executables: print(os.path.abspath(os.curdir)) print(exe) print(datetime.now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S')) version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) current_time = (datetime.now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S')) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s ", file=results) print(f"{current_time} ", file=results) ``` 2020-01-18 13-19-23 PST Adam Belis i feeel like an idiot 2020-01-18 13-20-52 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:20 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/iwtdmyxappWmx9gCw/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-38-34 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 13-19-12 PST Adam Belis why is this so complicated :D 2020-01-18 13-46-52 PST Adam Belis NOPE after reinstal of pyton ssam shit 2020-01-19 10-01-35 PST Adam Belis i round this few times its all same 2020-01-26 09-16-20 PST Adam Belis ok thanks ! 2020-01-18 14-33-33 PST Adam Belis how is that possible there is just one adam belis 2020-03-02 02-00-05 PST Adam Belis yes that would be awesome 2020-01-26 09-38-24 PST Adam Belis once again this tells me almost nothing but lets test it 2020-01-18 13-39-44 PST Adam Belis coz i cannot even run pyton now 2020-01-18 13-25-33 PST Adam Belis if __name__ == "__main__": inkscape_executables = [ "./Inkscape-031d86a-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-4cfd59b-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] 2020-01-18 14-27-16 PST Adam Belis ok i have idea 2020-01-18 13-04-46 PST Adam Belis i am missing something 2020-01-18 13-20-54 PST Adam Belis this 2020-01-18 14-31-02 PST Adam Belis i think 2020-01-18 14-15-08 PST Adam Belis :D it is 2020-01-19 08-33-58 PST Adam Belis :D sorry i know 2020-01-18 13-21-49 PST Adam Belis i should also include exe 2020-01-26 08-50-04 PST Adam Belis hmm thas not a good news boolian operations are quit bad right now 2020-01-18 14-04-06 PST Adam Belis i got same error 2020-01-18 13-09-04 PST Adam Belis 2. yes 2020-01-18 13-00-52 PST Adam Belis how do i know if it did run ? 2020-01-18 13-12-29 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:12 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/wrBxREw2TBnWDXDNF/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-09-00 PST Adam Belis 1. dont know what you are asking me 2020-01-18 13-43-23 PST Adam Belis maybe 2020-01-18 08-56-33 PST Adam Belis https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/history 2020-01-18 14-27-57 PST Adam Belis in that case that path is not correct 2020-01-26 09-38-55 PST Adam Belis thats what i would call easy fix 2020-01-18 13-47-20 PST Adam Belis maaan good old bat files :D 2020-01-18 14-25-57 PST Adam Belis contiue 2020-01-18 13-59-07 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:59 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/NtQpDPbe9oGhwgwxL/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-12-28 PST Adam Belis this 2020-01-18 08-47-51 PST Adam Belis my idea was to this svg select all spirals and convert it to paths 2020-01-18 14-04-18 PST Adam Belis ubt 2020-01-18 14-17-07 PST Adam Belis Nooo :D 2020-01-18 12-45-55 PST Adam Belis yets its readable 2020-01-18 15-42-42 PST Adam Belis i dont tnik ther is enough love wor win verison :D 2020-01-18 08-52-08 PST Adam Belis win 2020-01-26 08-52-57 PST Adam Belis any bool 2020-01-18 14-18-11 PST Adam Belis :D HELP i am useless 2020-03-02 01-59-52 PST Adam Belis i am chrome user 2020-01-18 14-34-45 PST Adam Belis haha i also need your id 2020-01-18 08-51-54 PST Adam Belis thanks i just took your idea and made it 100x100 harder :D 2020-01-18 13-50-11 PST Adam Belis but this is pyton 2.7 2020-01-18 13-11-12 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 12-48-00 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-18 13-00-22 PST Adam Belis i still cannot get it to run give me oooone second to trouble shoot it :D 2020-01-18 13-35-12 PST Adam Belis no that was not it 2020-01-18 12-48-50 PST Adam Belis i think i do on my second pc this is my tablet 2020-01-18 13-54-55 PST Adam Belis ok i fixed it 2020-01-18 13-26-29 PST Adam Belis dont worry we will get there one day 2020-01-26 09-40-35 PST Adam Belis i tried it few times and faild 2020-01-18 13-37-25 PST Adam Belis now it just refuse to run 2020-01-18 13-25-57 PST Adam Belis :D ok im ideiot volume 3 2020-01-18 13-33-57 PST Adam Belis that runs onley on 2.7 python 2020-01-18 08-50-18 PST Adam Belis and i am aslo noob i cannot du this simple scripting in ink 2020-01-18 13-35-28 PST Adam Belis wtf it run few mints ago :D 2020-01-18 14-25-52 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:25 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/QiXW2gHjJLoBM653P/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-32-39 PST Adam Belis the fuck it refuse to run now 2020-01-18 13-55-11 PST Adam Belis lets try this again 2020-01-18 12-43-34 PST Adam Belis or dropbox 2020-01-26 11-41-01 PST Adam Belis maybe try to gain som more inside from doc he can be more help then me 2020-01-18 14-32-53 PST Adam Belis or give me your user name :D 2020-01-18 14-30-07 PST Adam Belis we can call fb, skype , hang outs chose your poison 2020-01-19 08-28-00 PST Adam Belis i know it is om my potential to do list but i am learning to much stuff already 2020-01-18 14-07-31 PST Adam Belis sript to ink folder 2020-01-18 13-47-53 PST Adam Belis dont know i did nothing 2020-01-18 14-34-48 PST Adam Belis its down in corner 2020-01-18 13-19-06 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:19 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/XrFMoJBwrTivcQW44/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-43-09 PST Adam Belis no this did not helped 2020-01-18 12-47-57 PST Adam Belis to consol ? 2020-01-26 07-59-19 PST Adam Belis Hello was your hacky fixe merged in to master ? 2020-01-18 09-15-55 PST Adam Belis ok i scaled my test to 1000 spirals and my first findings wear correct your buid is 2x slower at this task 2020-01-26 11-36-35 PST Adam Belis maybe .. you saied that thats a problem 2020-01-18 13-23-49 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:23 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/DZinRbbGBDH4AR7Pr/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-23-17 PST Adam Belis just empty txt 2020-01-18 13-25-32 PST Adam Belis i should replace paths to this 2020-01-18 13-43-56 PST Adam Belis its saying its incomaptible 2020-01-18 14-24-37 PST Adam Belis nada 2020-01-18 13-53-46 PST Adam Belis witch files ? 2020-01-19 09-59-46 PST Adam Belis btw this are results on my main pc (i7-6800k 3.4ghz) Inkscape 1.1-dev (abe53df, 2020-01-17) 1.4908316999999993 s Inkscape 1.0beta2 (43f5480, 2020-01-18) 1.5817405999999998 s Inkscape 1.0beta2 (18c40e5, 2019-12-05) 1.4947684999999993 s 2020-01-18 13-24-15 PST Adam Belis txt 2020-01-18 13-50-16 PST Adam Belis do i want that 2020-01-18 13-49-27 PST Adam Belis instaler say amd that could be prolem this is intel 2020-01-18 13-25-35 PST Adam Belis ? 2020-01-18 14-32-41 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-18 14-06-30 PST Adam Belis just exe ? 2020-01-26 08-52-11 PST Adam Belis 1.1-dev (0217ea3, 2020-01-23) 2020-01-18 13-44-54 PST Adam Belis i dont know eater maybe i dowalded wrong pyton for diff procesor but in that cas it should say that from the first try 2020-01-26 09-04-21 PST Adam Belis well right now its pretty broken . i know shit about math that is happning under hood but it looks like 3 problems that happend at once. - your fix - doc fix of too many points - and docs fix infroduces new bug with cistorting shapes 2020-01-18 13-57-50 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:57 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/dyX6iXrHesCDRCyPQ/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-31-14 PST Adam Belis yes thats my user name on discort 2020-01-18 14-33-25 PST Adam Belis even pewdipai could not find it :D 2020-01-18 14-32-42 PST Adam Belis friends 2020-01-18 08-51-31 PST Adam Belis that could be use full to me 2020-01-26 11-37-06 PST Adam Belis but now it just uncoverd it 2020-01-18 09-39-32 PST Adam Belis your build 70 sec master 35 sec 2020-01-26 11-34-59 PST Adam Belis maybe doctor could point you to better direction 2020-01-18 13-25-08 PST Adam Belis you tell me 2020-01-26 08-50-15 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 26, 2020 5:50 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ZqAZTKoKXArignr9b/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-32-07 PST Adam Belis hahah add freind 2020-01-18 08-43-35 PST Adam Belis hello 2020-01-26 11-40-43 PST Adam Belis ok that would be awesome 2020-01-18 14-11-36 PST Adam Belis :D 2020-01-18 08-52-43 PST Adam Belis i am simple stupid designer :D 2020-01-18 14-21-29 PST Adam Belis hmmm same error 2020-01-18 14-30-36 PST Adam Belis i nver used discord for calling les try that 2020-01-18 13-09-39 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:09 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/jhzeAvQ5DXjmycvwr/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-34-19 PST Adam Belis musseg up 2020-01-18 13-54-12 PST Adam Belis oOOOOOOOOOOOOO 2020-01-18 12-43-27 PST Adam Belis you can zip it 2020-01-18 13-48-04 PST Adam Belis nope 2020-01-18 12-51-31 PST Adam Belis will this work for win ? 2020-01-18 13-17-06 PST Adam Belis cannot find thet folder 2020-01-18 14-17-01 PST Adam Belis \\\ \\\ 2020-01-18 14-15-34 PST Adam Belis this is my current py 2020-01-26 09-05-24 PST Adam Belis funny thing is that lpe boolioan use diffrent math (looks like) and works correctly 2020-01-18 14-08-21 PST Adam Belis that does not work i get same error 2020-01-18 14-30-58 PST Adam Belis adambelis 2020-01-18 14-33-41 PST Adam Belis same avatar as here 2020-01-18 14-32-19 PST Adam Belis in middel of the screen on home page 2020-01-18 14-32-29 PST Adam Belis on top 2020-01-19 08-34-52 PST Adam Belis that python could be useful to me because i could use it in 3D software like Houdini or cinema 4d 2020-01-18 12-51-32 PST Adam Belis inkscape_executables = [ "./Inkscape-031d86a-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-4cfd59b-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] 2020-01-18 12-47-54 PST Adam Belis where does it print to ? 2020-01-18 15-22-11 PST Adam Belis thanks again for that banchmark i will try toput together issu with proposal for som kind ofo official banch mark test for performace 2020-01-18 13-25-06 PST Adam Belis dont know :D 2020-01-18 13-25-23 PST Adam Belis aaaaaaaaah 2020-01-26 09-15-11 PST Adam Belis ok i wrote him about it so you are 100 percent shure its not your code that case the problem ? 2020-01-18 08-54-28 PST Adam Belis thanks for solving 2020-01-18 12-48-34 PST Adam Belis i think result txt would be better for the record 2020-01-18 08-56-55 PST Adam Belis maybe there are also maybe some for linux 2020-01-18 15-40-52 PST Adam Belis but i dont think so actualy it can run blender or cinema 4d pretty resonably 2020-01-18 14-24-39 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:24 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/86KwEGqYn2wRBgWHm/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-05-06 PST Adam Belis should be copypasta 2020-01-18 13-38-11 PST Adam Belis thats what i am wondering 2020-01-18 08-58-08 PST Adam Belis this are win 2020-01-18 08-47-28 PST Adam Belis i dont tnik so but i could be wrong i am not a best person to ask about this kind of stuff i canoot even compile inkscape :D 2020-01-18 13-33-38 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:33 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/zGnHwXvHNZrELfKzk/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-34-09 PST Adam Belis intresing i fell like boomer 2020-01-18 14-05-41 PST Adam Belis which file it cannot find ? 2020-01-18 14-29-15 PST Adam Belis can we call here ? 2020-01-18 13-40-20 PST Adam Belis right this is my every expirienc wiith pyton ever i am alwes like wow this does not work :D 2020-01-18 12-48-52 PST Adam Belis one sec 2020-01-18 14-01-03 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:01 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/523iowHZyHpzmwQcr/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-26 11-36-24 PST Adam Belis probably doctor sayed the same thing 2020-01-18 14-27-10 PST Adam Belis ok so your script does not work ? 2020-01-18 08-49-22 PST Adam Belis but i was tasting how this will influenc performance 2020-01-18 13-55-03 PST Adam Belis reinstal instal reinstal 2020-01-19 08-28-34 PST Adam Belis cout yes it could be usfull even for my 3d stuff a specali for houdiny 2020-01-18 13-51-30 PST Adam Belis do iwant amd or win 32 2020-01-18 14-25-30 PST Adam Belis it does not tocntie 2020-01-19 08-26-02 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-26 08-51-20 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 14-11-35 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-18 13-54-27 PST Adam Belis dont know 2020-01-18 08-58-05 PST Adam Belis https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/builds/30203579/job/n52kw… 2020-01-19 08-37-48 PST Adam Belis :D thanks but moments (tha this code jus dont want to run) like this reminds me why i am i visual artist and not a developer 2020-01-18 12-57-04 PST Adam Belis ah that make more sace 2020-01-18 13-32-46 PST Adam Belis say i have vrong verison 2020-01-19 10-01-22 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 13-54-23 PST Adam Belis good question 2020-01-18 14-06-47 PST Adam Belis i know :D 2020-01-18 08-58-20 PST Adam Belis cool 2020-01-26 11-35-53 PST Adam Belis just theoreticly if nodes would have that atribute would that fix it ? 2020-01-26 08-54-57 PST Adam Belis but if you can pleas test it yourself if you see same 2020-01-18 12-49-12 PST Adam Belis i think i do 2020-01-18 14-32-49 PST Adam Belis and after that 2020-01-18 13-52-09 PST Adam Belis yop 2020-01-18 13-25-50 PST Adam Belis with my builds 2020-01-18 13-20-25 PST Adam Belis no i think this is how it sous to be don i think i don this befor 2020-01-26 09-07-42 PST Adam Belis hmmm if you have time and energy try to get in contac with @doctormo and try to make a plan how to fix (or revert or dont know ) 2020-01-18 13-37-20 PST Adam Belis it created emty txt 2020-01-18 14-21-14 PST Adam Belis no no i got it 2020-01-18 13-25-03 PST Adam Belis if it didnt run it would not crate txt 2020-01-26 08-53-13 PST Adam Belis ok give me one sec i will try that spasific build 2020-01-18 14-26-51 PST Adam Belis could this be pyton glitch / wrong pyton instaled ? 2020-01-18 14-14-54 PST Adam Belis yop 2020-01-18 13-39-30 PST Adam Belis ok i just tested if that helps 2020-01-18 08-46-40 PST Adam Belis benchmarksvg.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/AYNLFshaDuydi9oSJ/benchmarksvg.svg) 2020-01-18 14-19-43 PST Adam Belis firs what ? 2020-01-26 08-51-40 PST Adam Belis let me test it one more tim to be sure im looking at correct build 2020-01-18 08-52-34 PST Adam Belis NOPE :D 2020-01-18 13-59-11 PST Adam Belis is this correct syntax ? 2020-01-18 13-54-18 PST Adam Belis :D 2020-01-18 14-33-56 PST Adam Belis adambelis#3440

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2020-09-06 04-24-15 PDT Martin Owens Thanks Tav! Amazing GSoC and a strong performance from yourself and the other mentors this year. 2020-05-15 14-37-24 PDT Martin Owens GDI, the meeting was today? 2021-01-06 18-14-30 PST Martin Owens @speleo3 I see this as a very tiny patch, possibly misguided, but perhaps they can be asked to work on another bug if they are trying to get patches in for GSoC 2020-05-15 14-37-40 PDT Martin Owens Oh right the email Mc sent round. Sorry all. 2020-05-15 08-54-26 PDT Mc Thank you all for coming ! Sorry Jabiert that you could not talk :( 2020-07-29 09-49-05 PDT Mc yes 2020-06-30 12-52-18 PDT Mc * it would be preferable, yes, if several mentors have been following up with the projects * only one eval per student can be posted, so I think it would be best that the "primary" mentor of students post theirs, after discussing it with the others * I think it's fine to wait for thursday evening 2020-08-31 07-55-24 PDT Mc @all https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/mar-yyy-2z2 as usual 2020-07-30 09-03-43 PDT Mc @jabiertxof @speleo3 https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/mar-yyy-2z2 2020-05-15 07-59-59 PDT Mc https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/mar-yyy-2z2 2020-07-29 07-46-58 PDT Mc @Tav @speleo3 @ede123 is tomorrow tentatively 18hCEST (16hUTC) ok to meet with moazin & linkmauve ? 2020-07-30 16-12-08 PDT Mc only moazin to do, tweenk emailed that he would do it soon 2020-05-15 09-08-32 PDT Jabier Arraiza and I loosse most of the discussion in the process 2020-05-15 09-08-09 PDT Jabier Arraiza I coulsd talk finaly using my mobile phone browser but is hard to me undertand speak and hardest speak 2020-07-31 04-27-44 PDT Jabier Arraiza sorry finaly cant attend 2020-05-15 08-00-25 PDT Jabier Arraiza thanks 2020-05-15 07-59-05 PDT Jabier Arraiza whats the BlueBuitton link, couldent search 2020-07-29 14-25-49 PDT Jabier Arraiza I try to attend 2020-05-15 08-00-41 PDT Jabier Arraiza I just see land in other mail 2020-09-06 18-12-08 PDT Jabier Arraiza Thanks all!!! 2020-07-29 07-47-54 PDT Tavmjong Bah Yes 2020-07-30 23-41-28 PDT Tavmjong Bah Thanks all! 2020-07-02 09-38-14 PDT Tavmjong Bah It was great to see all the progress today! @Mc Thanks for organizing this. 2020-07-01 05-07-46 PDT Tavmjong Bah Don't know why I didn't see this before... 2020-09-06 04-17-39 PDT Tavmjong Bah Thanks all for a great GSoC! (And getting the evaluations all done on time!) 2020-09-05 23-02-57 PDT Tavmjong Bah I don't think it matters significantly if the student didn't complete the project. It happens all the time. 2020-07-30 12-34-59 PDT Tavmjong Bah 4 student evaluations of mentors done. 2 mentor evaluations of students done. Don't make me nervous! 2020-07-29 08-15-13 PDT Thomas Holder yes 2021-01-06 15-02-54 PST Thomas Holder I'm having a deja-vu :-( IMHO Adrian's motivation to commit a patch is wrong, and his patch is pointless. This is discouraging. 2021-01-06 15-01-04 PST Thomas Holder https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/2655#note_479863443 2020-07-30 23-36-11 PDT Thomas Holder all done 2020-09-05 17-56-51 PDT Patrick Specifically I'm looking at Abhay's project, that is not "complete" given his initial goals (e.g. macro functionality mostly missing), but at the same time I never really expected him to complete all of it on time and had more realistic "internal" goals for his project in mind that he mostly matched (a mostly working command palette). 2020-07-01 05-00-42 PDT Patrick Thanks Marc, so basically "apply common sense", no particular project-specific conventions AFAIU. 2020-07-01 05-03-46 PDT Patrick As for Abhay I could do the evaluation in principle; @speleo3 and @jabiertxof are co-mentoring; Tav helped a lot as well. 2020-07-01 05-05-42 PDT Patrick Some guidance would be helpful to know how strictly we're supposed to grade, however I'm used to grade students, so I'd be able to figure something out either way. 2020-09-05 17-53-09 PDT Patrick Hi @all, can somebody comment on the significance of the question "Did ${student} complete the project?" in the final evaluation? If we answer this with "no", do we risk any drawbacks for the student or us as a project, or is it fine to answer "no" if the project is still ongoing at this time? 2020-07-01 05-01-21 PDT Patrick (pinging @Tav as I'm not sure he saw this message considering the mail he sent) 2020-05-15 09-06-33 PDT Patrick I've finally figured out how to use my webcam. Maybe you can see me next time. ;-) 2020-06-30 12-25-17 PDT Patrick Hi all, considering first eval's up, can some of the experienced mentors comment on how those are typically handled in the project? Any pointers are welcome! Some specific questions I have: * Do we discuss evaluations as a group / within the group of mentors for the specific student / (not at all)? * Related to that, who's expected to submit the evaluation (and when)? (I think we've appointed some "primary" mentors internally, but as far as Google is concerned it seems all of the mentors are equal and even org admins could do the evaluation) * We have a meeting scheduled on Thursday. Is it fine (or even advisable) to hold off with the evaluation until then, or should we evaluate as early as possible? 2020-07-29 08-31-58 PDT Patrick I won't be available tomorrow, sorry. 2020-07-29 08-32-31 PDT Patrick Did you make contact with linkmauve? 2020-05-15 07-28-26 PDT Mc User Tweenk added by Mc. 2021-02-06 16-35-47 PST Martin Owens Has left the channel.

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2020-02-26 12-40-31 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi Yes, I am familiar with it 2020-02-26 12-44-50 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi I am familiar with selectors and css dialogs but not have much idea about improving it. Sorry for what i said earlier. 2020-02-26 12-31-24 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi Hi, This is Ayush, a college student. I am interested in contributing to project "Enhance CSS Support". Not able to find related documentation. 2020-02-26 12-36-57 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi Yes, I am a gsoc aspirant. 2020-02-26 12-36-05 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi I have been contributing to one of my college community as a web developer and have also done a small contribution to Inkscape-website. I am familiar with CSS, Django, Java and C++. Any suggestion about required technology that can be useful in contribution will be helpful. 2020-02-26 12-38-04 PST Tavmjong Bah Have you tried out the Selectors and CSS dialog in master? I'm sure as a web developer you will have some ideas on how to improve it. 2020-02-26 12-41-18 PST Tavmjong Bah I would start my making a review of the dialog and then proposing a set of improvements that could be made to it. 2020-02-26 12-36-14 PST Tavmjong Bah Your referring to P1 at https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code ?

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2020-06-04 10-20-21 PDT Mandeep Alright. 2020-06-05 14-25-36 PDT Mandeep Hi, So I tried to find my way around GitLab but I am still not very comfortable using that platform. Is it possible that we could communicate over e-mails till the time I understand the security, work flow & privacy settings around GitLab? 2020-06-04 10-19-03 PDT Mandeep I can join via text, right? 2020-06-04 10-22-28 PDT Mandeep I will check that as well. 2020-06-04 10-20-06 PDT Mandeep team_vectors? 2020-06-06 09-53-59 PDT Mandeep Yes, SEO plan will be ready in a couple of days & I already have few ideas that should be able to help us. I will put all of this together in an email. 2020-06-04 10-18-15 PDT Mandeep I will be able to join the meeting but don't think that the actionable plan for SEO will be ready by then. It will take me around 2-3 days. 2020-06-04 10-02-15 PDT Mandeep Sure, I can look after SEO side of it. I also design E-mails & manage social channels for my full time job. I can also look after that for Inkscape. 2020-06-04 10-19-58 PDT Mandeep & the meeting's here? 2020-06-04 09-56-42 PDT Mandeep My focus is on digital side of the marketing but I handle other aspects as well. 2020-06-05 14-27-21 PDT Mandeep Thanks. 2020-06-04 09-47-21 PDT Mandeep Hi, Thanks for reaching out. I have requested for the access. I have majored in marketing and have been working for a few years in the marketing field for various kinds of companies, helping them with their SEM. SEO, Content, E-mail marketing etc. 2020-06-04 10-01-09 PDT Mandeep Yes, Agreed! We won't be able to compete against them in terms of the resources that they have. 2020-06-04 10-23-30 PDT Mandeep Nice talking to you, I will catch up with you during the meeting. Do let me know if there is something I can help with. Thanks. 2020-06-04 10-09-01 PDT Mandeep You can provide me access for whichever platform you need me to manage. So our goal is to get more users & keep the project floating & growing, Understood. 2020-06-04 10-11-32 PDT Mandeep I will share what we should do in terms of SEO, in a couple of days & then we can work towards it. 2020-06-04 10-10-43 PDT Mandeep For e-mails, platforms like mailchimp, moosend etc. do provide some sort of basic and free functionality upto 2000 contacts. We can use their services and promote inkscape. Maybe we can have a sign-up form on our website, segment the audience and optimize the emails per user behaviour. 2020-06-02 15-02-09 PDT Ryan Gorley When you get a minute, let me know a little more about yourself and background and let's find a way to put your talent to good work. I'm glad to have you! 2020-06-02 15-01-36 PDT Ryan Gorley If you don't have a GitLab account, please create one and then request access to that group. You'll a lot of prior projects, meeting topics, ideas, etc. in the Issues. 2020-06-04 10-04-42 PDT Ryan Gorley It may be worth it. 2020-06-04 10-21-04 PDT Ryan Gorley https://lists.inkscape.org/postorius/lists/inkscape-vectors.lists.inkscape.… 2020-06-04 10-18-41 PDT Ryan Gorley That's alright. It will be nice to have you introduce yourself at least. 2020-06-04 10-24-16 PDT Ryan Gorley Likewise, and I certainly will. Thanks for joining us. I'm glad to have you onboard! 2020-06-06 09-35-28 PDT Ryan Gorley Thanks for joining our meeting. I'd love to put your expertise to work. Do you think you'll have some ideas to share before our next meeting? I'd love to hear them. 2020-06-04 10-20-09 PDT Ryan Gorley Yes, in the #team_vectors channel 2020-06-06 09-57-54 PDT Ryan Gorley Sweet. I'm glad to see you connecting with Michele about keywords as well. 2020-06-04 10-07-11 PDT Ryan Gorley Something to keep in mind, that I had to learn, was that the important social good brought about the project aside, the project itself really doesn't benefit directly from more users. We should get the tool out there for people, because that is the right thing to do, but we need to optimize for conversions in the form of contributors (and to a lesser extent donations). 2020-06-04 10-04-18 PDT Ryan Gorley I think it would be great to get additional eyes on social media. We've never done anything with emails. I think that could be interesting. It will be a little more difficult to get off the ground because we'll have to get infrastructure put in place, which is a struggle right now. 2020-06-04 10-00-57 PDT Ryan Gorley There is much more than search optimization we need, but that is definitely something you would bring unique expertise on. 2020-06-04 10-19-32 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, the meeting is all text. 2020-06-02 15-00-18 PDT Ryan Gorley Hi @Mandeep . Thanks for reaching out. I'm sorry to take so long getting back with you. I run a small creative agency (https://freehive.com) and we've been really busy the last few weeks. I come from a marketing background as well. In fact, the Vectors came about in part because I came asking the same question you have and no one was really doing any marketing work for the project. Here is a small survey I put out around then to understand better who was using Inkscape, and where they saw the value in the application: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hz_Q6epUfUJXO0w_XZGZ8GRDOOpzjl_kXe9… Give it a look if you like. You can also find a lot of our business on GitLab at: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors 2020-06-04 09-59-56 PDT Ryan Gorley We're not exactly in competition with the commercial tools on the market, and I don't really feel like we need to be of that mindset, but rather we should help as many people as possible discover Inkscape and make the choice for themselves. 2020-06-04 09-58-33 PDT Ryan Gorley I haven't gotten this off the ground, in part because I've been the only one with any experience with it, but I would love for the project to make a more deliberate effort to optimize for search phrases that will help us get found more often. 2020-06-04 10-14-01 PDT Ryan Gorley There is a lot of resistance from certain quarters within the project to using proprietary tools, just so you know. I think an email would be good though. 2020-06-04 10-19-27 PDT Ryan Gorley When you are ready to publish your plan, just create an issue in the "General" subgroup of our GitLab group and post what you have there. It supports markdown. 2020-06-04 10-20-43 PDT Ryan Gorley Oh, and we do have a group mailing list if you want to get reminders on meetings. It is at... 2020-06-05 14-26-19 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, sure. My email is ryan(a)freehive.com 2020-06-04 10-08-28 PDT Ryan Gorley Donations are less valuable right now because the project hasn't really figured out how to spend that money on anything but hackfests. We're figuring that out, but contributions of time and talent go much further right now. 2020-06-04 10-16-53 PDT Ryan Gorley An initial dive into what we can do on the SEO front would be awesome. We tried to pick a time for our meeting that works for most quarters of the world. Someone said it is pretty late in your timezone. Is it doable? 2020-06-04 09-57-09 PDT Ryan Gorley Nice

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2020-01-02 15-56-48 PST Major No windows 2020-01-02 15-57-19 PST Major ok thanks 2020-01-02 15-55-03 PST Major ? 2020-01-02 15-54-58 PST Major can you help me 2020-01-02 15-55-02 PST Major please 2020-01-02 15-53-50 PST Major Bonjour René, êtes vous français ? 2020-01-02 15-54-46 PST Major Ok I have a little problem 2020-01-02 15-54-26 PST René de Hesselle English and German only. 2020-01-02 15-57-05 PST René de Hesselle Sorry, can't help you with that. I'm the macOS maintainer. 2020-01-02 15-56-29 PST René de Hesselle Post your questions into the user channel, so more people will be able to help. I'm a developer, but a novice user. Unless your question has something to do with the macOS app, I'm not your guy.

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2020-09-17 14-31-16 PDT Brandy I am working in inkscape and all of the sudden my whole screen tilted to the left, what happened? I walked away from a project. When I came back I hit my mouse pad to bring my screen back up and it shifted?

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2020-05-25 02-49-10 PDT manoj hi

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