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2019-06-20 06-16-35 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva https://www.portucalio.com/blog/ 2019-11-28 08-44-55 PST Pedro Pinto da Silva I want to add it at the end 2019-06-22 12-49-36 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva just did ;) 2019-11-28 08-44-44 PST Pedro Pinto da Silva and Michèle Thibeau for tweaking my grammar ;) 2019-06-22 12-43-01 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva so I need to invite him for a Pilsner (Czech proper beer) 2019-06-20 06-24-09 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva oh and also tried to make impact with the kids by visiting their school https://portucalio.com/blog/post/escolinha-portuguesa/ 2019-06-22 08-22-47 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/michele?msg=AAGH9xB5ZSjqrzWFG) and which want do you want? I can send you bigger size. () 2019-06-20 06-25-28 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva oh and if you need any translation for PT_PT or PT_BR just ask :) 2019-06-20 06-15-29 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva I just saw the last podcast 2019-06-22 12-42-17 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva Wow such a small world :) 2019-06-22 08-27-56 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva Yes, I was actually already involved with community both through the Ubuntu Portugal community (by being invited to the podcast and share how I work 100% with FLOSS tools); With Inkscape Portuguese groups, by trying to help newcomers our designers that come from Adobe nightmare-ecosystem and I even did some workshop in the city that I live (Prague, Czech Republic) . I have some information regarding these things in my personal website https://pedropintosilva.com/talks-and-lectures/ 2019-06-20 06-18-02 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva A Calendar completely done with Inkscape and Scribus (more info on how at category https://portucalio.com/blog/tags/backstage/) 2019-11-28 08-38-56 PST Pedro Pinto da Silva thanks!! 2019-06-20 06-22-53 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva and now my goals is to make everything available under CC BY-SA 4.0 on Github as explained here https://portucalio.com/blog/post/april-freedom/ 2019-06-22 08-28-40 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva because until then I just new about Telegram groups 2019-06-20 10-51-43 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva I didn't take much 2019-06-20 10-53-06 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva but if you need any picture from here https://portucalio.com/blog/post/may-coffee-time/ feel free to steal it or if you want bigger size or the editable (gimp, darktable) feel free to ping me here 2019-11-28 08-44-41 PST Pedro Pinto da Silva is this ok ? 2019-06-22 12-47-43 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva no no 2019-06-20 10-51-25 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva Thank you, glad you like it! 2019-06-20 06-16-21 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva and also would like to leave here information about a love project of mine: 2019-06-22 08-22-04 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/michele?msg=gjqhwpqRjfca5GwFD) yes you have permission to do whatever you want () 2019-06-22 08-27-56 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/michele?msg=XNoG6XkDD3SpQ4Yyb) perfect! () 2019-06-20 06-15-20 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva Hello Michele :) 2019-06-22 12-46-56 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva yup 2019-06-20 10-51-39 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva and if you need any picture from there let me know 2019-06-22 08-28-28 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva but I discover that this chat existed because of LGM and Jabier 2019-06-20 06-15-55 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva and I would like to start to say, thank you for your contributions 2019-06-22 12-47-45 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/michele?msg=SxAthxzr6yNAfrAPC) this it's me () 2019-06-20 06-20-59 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva at the 1st stage I try to sell it without saying no one about the libre tools involved (just so people got involved and actually see it and use it) then at 2nd stage I started to document how we (my girlfriend and I) worked and promoting the Inkscape 2019-06-22 08-29-22 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva :) 2019-06-20 06-21-52 PDT Pedro Pinto da Silva meanwhile I tried to do events like the one in February https://portucalio.com/blog/post/february-i-love-porto/ 2019-06-22 08-18-02 PDT Michèle Thibeau Above is the original tweet - this is my revised version: "@inkscape workshop was really cool. Learn some tricks with alpha version; exchanged techniques and shortcuts and most of all we could express and influence the upcoming version! The developers really listened and were eager to share and discuss. And we played with amusing laser cuts toys by Jürgen Weigert." Can we say that you met team members at LGM and decided to get involved with the project? 2019-06-22 12-47-45 PDT Michèle Thibeau I have two twitter accounts - one for my design stuff here: https://twitter.com/zigzagmlt?lang=en 2019-06-20 09-47-38 PDT Michèle Thibeau Hi Pedro! Thanks for checking out the community and wanting to get involved. Your site looks cool. I love the images and the creative expressions - light is such an impressive thing when it comes to seeing our world. Light and shadow and the way they play are fascinating. I also do digital art, and so I love creating too. You can send your notes here, if you wish. I'm currently on my lunch break at the office, so you normally can find me hanging out here more on the weekends or early morning / later evening EDT when I am home. Looking forward to collaborating with you! 2019-06-22 12-47-17 PDT Michèle Thibeau Is this you? https://twitter.com/silvapedro?lang=en 2019-06-22 08-16-02 PDT Michèle Thibeau Thanks, Pedro! I might just use one or two, depending on how many we use. The others had pics from their phones, so dark and small. Can I quote you, using your tweet? I'd like your permission to correct it a bit, if that's okay. Can you confirm that this is what you mean? Thanks! 2019-06-22 12-48-55 PDT Michèle Thibeau If you follow me back there you'll see my design work! And I can message you and Kenn. 2019-11-28 04-49-30 PST Michèle Thibeau I think those are the main points that could help readers quickly. If you want me to do any more, just let me know. Great job! Looking forward to reading your next article! 2019-06-22 08-16-24 PDT Michèle Thibeau @inkscape workshop was really cool. Learn some tricks wrt alpha version; exchange techniques and shortcuts and most of all we could express and influence the upcoming version! The developers really listened and were eager to share and discuss. And play with amusing laser cuts toys by Jürgen Weigert ❤️. #scribus devs were there as well and so I couldn't resist but show my appreciation by giving #portucalio to every developer (present) from these lovely tools ❤️🤩 THANK YOU! - original tweet @inkscape workshop was really cool. Learn some tricks wrt alpha version; exchange techniques and shortcuts and most of all we could express and influence the upcoming version! The developers really listened and were eager to share and discuss. And play with amusing laser cuts toys by Jürgen Weigert ❤️. #scribus devs were there as well and so I couldn't resist but show my appreciation by giving #portucalio to every developer (present) from these lovely tools ❤️🤩 THANK YOU! 2019-06-22 12-48-12 PDT Michèle Thibeau Right! I am looking through my zigzagmlt one... I'll find you! 2019-06-22 12-51-03 PDT Michèle Thibeau Cool! Message sent! 2019-06-22 12-45-50 PDT Michèle Thibeau His name is Kenn. Let me see if I can hook you up via Twitter... I believe you began following me earlier? 2019-11-28 04-48-47 PST Michèle Thibeau Hi Pedro! As promised, here are the couple of words I'd suggest tweaking: 1. (first paragraph) "I have been using Inkscape 1.0 daily and..." 2. (above Donate to Inkscape visual) "Boom! Now be sure to:" 3. (paragraph below Support Inkscape visual) "I also bought myself the print version..." 4. (In File a bug bullet point) "I can attest that by doing this you will end up being an active part of the development process and, likely, you will be happier with the results. You can do so via inkscape/report or you can consult/read some old bugs in Launchpad 5. (Next bullet point) "Not enough gimme more..." 2019-06-22 08-41-55 PDT Michèle Thibeau Cool! I have a good friend who lives in Prague some of the time. He's Canadian, like I am, and also lives on the West Coast... but we're both from the East Coast. I thought you were not living in Portugal. Prague seems like a beautiful city.

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2019-03-04 13-48-39 PST René de Hesselle I'm curious about how many pitfalls I'll encounter... I haven't done this for an app that big yet. In the next few days I'll know more 2019-03-04 14-13-08 PST René de Hesselle The guys from IRC said that you're working on this as well, but couldn't tell me how far along you are. Can you tell me something about the progress you've made? - I'm tracking my progress publicly on [GitHub](https://github.com/dehesselle/mibap) (it's not pretty yet, everything still much work in progress). Right now I am building the aforementioned script. 2019-03-04 14-28-27 PST René de Hesselle lol thats awesome :smile: 2019-03-04 14-13-50 PST René de Hesselle I'd like to avoid putting time into something and then see it wasted because someone else has already done it. 2019-03-04 13-55-58 PST René de Hesselle Yes. 2019-03-04 14-33-39 PST René de Hesselle So the world of people building/packaging on macOS is smaller than I thought :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: 2019-03-05 02-39-15 PST René de Hesselle I'll be there. 2019-03-04 13-39-15 PST René de Hesselle Hi :wave:, I'm writing it myself. The first iteration will be a shellscript that creates the app bundle directory structure, copies all the required libs into it and then rewrites the absolute paths of all libraries to rpath. 2019-03-04 18-11-03 PST capin hey, we're _and I use that term collectively_ gunna be discussing mac packaging in the main #team_devel_mac channel ~ 11AM CST _that's Central Standard Time US_ if you want to join 2019-03-04 13-45-11 PST capin nice 2019-03-04 13-59-03 PST capin nice. 2019-03-05 07-15-34 PST capin 👍 2019-03-04 13-54-05 PST capin have you ever made an **.app** bundle before? 2019-03-04 14-27-08 PST capin lulz, i'm github.com/ipatch 2019-03-04 14-39-36 PST capin yup 2019-03-04 13-22-19 PST capin hi 👋, what process are you using to bundle an app for macOS?

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2019-02-25 22-57-08 PST Jabier Arraiza I put a comment to tell the real places, Maine I add unnecessary visuals to code that take out focus of the problem, I sent you soon the 2 lines magic 2019-02-22 15-41-43 PST Jabier Arraiza Fixed!!!! you have a MR on your Inbox! 2019-02-26 15-09-50 PST Jabier Arraiza maybe we dont need duple it 2019-02-26 15-15-46 PST Jabier Arraiza currently we can relay on move 2019-02-22 10-14-28 PST Jabier Arraiza :) 2019-02-26 15-10-51 PST Jabier Arraiza I think default is move and with Ctrl or Shift is dupled 2019-02-25 23-26-44 PST Jabier Arraiza both in same place https://gitlab.com/Tavmjong/gtk_sandbox/merge_requests/4/diffs#ab9421dc8125… 2019-02-22 10-14-48 PST Jabier Arraiza I just reply on common to the question 2019-02-26 15-09-33 PST Jabier Arraiza or move sorry 2019-02-23 03-47-26 PST Jabier Arraiza Hi an unrelated cueston have you can give a this skeleton branch to give me feedbak? https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/549. Thanks in advance. 2019-02-26 15-06-07 PST Jabier Arraiza I dont think about i see this surfing in internet and try if it works. Great to know there is a better ant tiny option 2019-02-27 10-01-59 PST Jabier Arraiza somethin sililar to old Painter UI http://splinet.narod.ru/tutorials/metapaint/figure01.jpeg 2019-02-27 13-19-25 PST Jabier Arraiza Contract 2019-02-26 15-09-25 PST Jabier Arraiza or copy 2019-02-27 09-52-05 PST Jabier Arraiza I can improve it a bit more? I want to add expanders to contact notebooks 2019-02-26 15-15-12 PST Jabier Arraiza Is the way they handle as far I read but maybe it not works on notebooks 2019-02-27 09-51-07 PST Jabier Arraiza great! 2019-02-25 03-25-10 PST Jabier Arraiza Hi Tav just if not notice it https://gitlab.com/Tavmjong/gtk_sandbox/merge_requests/4 2019-02-26 13-18-08 PST Jabier Arraiza context->drag_finish() is recomended for any drag&drop but works without it the two necesary things are drag_dest_set changes and add vexpand or hexpand to the droping zone 2019-02-27 10-03-38 PST Jabier Arraiza here you see better http://img15.nnm.me/9/f/a/2/c/83edd4c45debd738477de4623ab.jpg 2019-02-26 15-09-13 PST Jabier Arraiza you can add two and use with modifiers to duple tab 2019-02-22 10-12-25 PST Tavmjong Bah I'll be out of touch for a day or so. I leave for the US early tomorrow morning. I'm glad to see you working on the drag-and-drop stuff. 2019-02-26 15-09-02 PST Tavmjong Bah I don't know if tabs are considered to be "data". 2019-02-25 17-47-34 PST Tavmjong Bah It will take some time me to study what you did. Thanks for doing it! 2019-02-27 09-50-41 PST Tavmjong Bah I'll demo your version at the hackfest and get feedback on the interface. 2019-02-26 15-08-38 PST Tavmjong Bah I think only one value of Gdk::ACTION_COPY and Gdk::ACTION_MOVE is valid (looking at some documentation). I'm not sure it applies to dragging tabs. 2019-02-27 09-50-21 PST Tavmjong Bah I narrowed the problem with the X11 backend to Gdk::ACTION_COPY. Changing it to Gdk::ACTION_MOVE makes it work on X11. Thanks for your help! 2019-02-26 13-10-59 PST Tavmjong Bah I've tested your code and it seems to work well. I'm still trying to understand it though. (And I'm trying to understand my code... I can't figure out what in my code causes the drop-zone to be outlined in green under Wayland. If I understand correctly, we need to have the "context->drag_finish()" lines and the drag_dest_set() changes. Then, the rest of the code is to highlight the drop zones. I tried using CSS for the drop-zones but it doesn't seem to work (#InkMultipanedDropBox:hover). 2019-02-26 15-04-03 PST Tavmjong Bah Why have you changed Gtk::DEST_DEFAULT_ALL to Gtk::DEST_DEFAULT_MOTION | Gtk::DEST_DEFAULT_DROP? This turns off the highlighting when the cursor is over the drop zone. 2019-02-27 10-00-17 PST Tavmjong Bah I think it is fine now... but we should get feedback from the UX team maybe. I'm not sure what you mean by "contact notebooks". 2019-02-26 15-04-30 PST Tavmjong Bah (DEST_DEFAULT_ALL is the default value)

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2019-09-17 20-04-45 PDT pdurbin Oh dear. I hope you're able to connect with your family. My condolences. 2019-09-22 18-04-11 PDT pdurbin I'll have to pick your brain about the future of the FSF some other day. Enjoy! 2019-09-07 10-14-52 PDT pdurbin Yikes. 2019-09-07 21-48-48 PDT pdurbin Cool. Maybe! 2019-08-28 18-38-40 PDT pdurbin Ok. I don't think I can commit yet to Sunday night but I'll keep you posted. 2019-09-19 15-58-33 PDT pdurbin Heading to the UK? 2019-08-17 04-21-54 PDT pdurbin Nice. I'll have to check it out. A friend from Australia once served us KO Pies. 2020-03-30 13-51-20 PDT pdurbin Yes, the smaller the better. I'm already contributing to the new manual, helping @Moini out. I was thinking code or maybe QA'ing a merge request. 2020-02-29 15-06-06 PST pdurbin Wow Erika's art is awesome!! I'm hoping to get my 6yo into Inkscape soon. As for timing I was thinking after work, but not too late since my hubby might kill me leaving him w the kids and the baby too long lol. 5/530/6... would that be doable? What were you thinking? We have 2 secret doors btw :-) ~m 2019-08-22 17-45-04 PDT pdurbin Tomorrow (Friday) I'm getting my kids to the airport to go visit my parents for a week. So I'm a little out of sorts. You can go ahead and message me here tomorrow (maybe when you get close to HMS) and we'll see if we can work something out. :) 2019-09-04 16-57-43 PDT pdurbin Nice. Want me to swing by Longwood? If so, what time? 2019-09-06 03-10-29 PDT pdurbin No worries. Going to Grendel's on Sunday? Raman says hi. 2019-09-16 09-52-13 PDT pdurbin Bummer. 🙂 2019-09-22 17-57-11 PDT pdurbin Oh! I just said goodnight to Ian and left Grendel's. Walking to my bike. 2019-08-28 19-08-43 PDT pdurbin Well, it's huge that my Mac at work can have Inkscape on it now. And maybe other Macs, including my colleague who made the pull request. :) 2019-09-11 18-58-13 PDT pdurbin Had lunch today with a guy who uses Django a lot. He gave me some advice for a project I inherited from Raman. 2019-09-04 16-26-43 PDT pdurbin I'm having coffee with Raman tomorrow. How is your Friday morning looking? :) 2019-09-08 10-47-34 PDT pdurbin Ok, it's looking like a yes, I'll be there. Want to meet up a little early? If so, what time? 2020-02-29 13-33-44 PST pdurbin And evening is more standard for a weekday meetup, I believe, wouldn't you think? 2020-02-29 13-33-22 PST pdurbin There's no way I could go during the day. It would have to be in the evening. 2019-08-28 15-38-46 PDT pdurbin I hear ya. Are you going to Grendel's on Sunday? 2019-08-28 18-49-14 PDT pdurbin Ok. Thanks. 2019-08-28 18-44-03 PDT pdurbin I've never been there either. Do any Inkscape people go to FOSDEM? :) 2019-08-17 15-08-19 PDT pdurbin I used to eat at an Indian place near there when I worked at Berklee. 2020-03-30 13-51-39 PDT pdurbin Or reproducing a Mac issue, if that's helpful. 2019-08-22 13-00-35 PDT pdurbin Hi! Maybe! If so, what time were you thinking? 2019-08-28 08-43-07 PDT pdurbin Yes, it was quite a busy day. How is this Friday looking for you? 2019-08-29 10-04-41 PDT pdurbin It seems to work pretty well on the family iMac at home. I haven't installed it on my work laptop yet, which is also a Mac. I feel like the Cmd-backtick shortcut may not work (to switch windows) but I'll have to double check. 2020-03-30 13-56-51 PDT pdurbin Thanks! All this helps a lot. I might ping you before I do more than just poking around. :) 2020-03-30 13-48-32 PDT pdurbin Hi! Over in #team_devel_mac I asked if there is any way I can help. I'm home with the kids this week. Back to work (remotely) next week. :) 2020-02-29 13-29-43 PST pdurbin It it were a Tue, Wed, or Thu at Red Hat, what time would work for you? 2020-03-01 16-57-29 PST pdurbin Oh, hey, I'm not going to Grendel's tonight after all. Please say hi to Ian for me. Any thoughts on the first Wednesday to target? Not during April Vacation, please. :) 2019-08-17 16-42-40 PDT pdurbin Gotcha. I'm reading your email about Fridays at HMS. Maybe we could meet up a half hour before you usually begin your day on some Friday. 2020-02-29 13-26-08 PST pdurbin I might be able to do smtg on a monthly basis... Im just recently off maternity leave so Im not going into Boston yet Im wfh up in Melrose but I need to start transitioning back soon. I live not far from Oak Grove so anything convenient to orange is easiest for me, Cambridge is a bit harder for that reason. Bc it's Inkscape I can offer you Red Hat Boston near South Station if itd work for you. We have the room with the big touch screens and attached kitchen with comfy couch and lounge chairs I can reserve for us. It'd have to be on a Tues, Weds, or Thurs. We're building out a new floor of the building too but it's not planned to be ready until mid to late summer iirc but it's meant to be a meeting space. I have an illustration intern coming in this summer starting in late May, she's studying at MassArt and will be using Inkscape, she might be able to come even before the internship starts too maybe. ~m 2019-08-16 16-47-59 PDT pdurbin Test. 2019-09-12 16-24-14 PDT pdurbin Do they have a website? I can't find it. 2019-09-08 16-39-34 PDT pdurbin Are you inside or outside? I'm inside Grendel's. 2019-09-12 17-35-19 PDT pdurbin Congrats to Mo! Boy or girl? 2019-09-20 16-10-23 PDT pdurbin Ok. I'm still thinking I might go to Grendel's. Good luck with your travels. 2019-09-07 09-01-43 PDT pdurbin Hope you're feeling better! 2019-09-07 16-03-59 PDT pdurbin So. Sunday night at Grendel's? I'm thinking about it. 2019-08-28 18-50-51 PDT pdurbin A Dataverse logo SVG tweak came through as a pull request today. Exported from Illustrator. Oh well. :) 2019-09-15 06-41-41 PDT pdurbin I have an old friend from when we both worked at Berklee who loves Inkscape and might meet us at Grendel's some day. 2019-09-20 16-30-05 PDT pdurbin Ok. Please keep me posted! 2019-09-08 16-27-29 PDT pdurbin 5 minutes 2019-08-17 13-41-21 PDT pdurbin Ah. Ok. The Cornish place is somewhat new, I assume. 2019-09-17 16-04-15 PDT pdurbin Plenty to talk about at Grendel's this week. Are you planning on going? 2020-02-29 17-36-02 PST pdurbin I told her the earliest I can get there is 5. So yeah, same. :) 2020-03-30 13-49-55 PDT pdurbin Not especially. I mean, it's ok. I just thought I might have a little time here and there this week. :) 2019-08-28 18-40-08 PDT pdurbin Heh. I can report that I'm going to FOSDEM for the first time! I just booked flights and hotels. Have you ever been? 2019-09-12 16-04-11 PDT pdurbin Yes! Let's do it! 2019-09-15 11-25-32 PDT pdurbin Are you going tonight? 2019-09-22 13-25-41 PDT pdurbin How did things shake out? 2019-09-08 15-56-10 PDT pdurbin Cool. I'm about to hop on my bike. 2019-09-14 07-41-01 PDT pdurbin Gotcha. 2019-09-05 14-36-37 PDT pdurbin What time were you thinking? 2020-02-29 13-38-35 PST pdurbin I'm asking her what time of day she had in mind. 2019-09-08 16-24-33 PDT Martin Owens Arrived 2019-09-22 17-48-51 PDT Martin Owens I'm here 2019-08-16 19-25-32 PDT Martin Owens I'm at the Cornish pasty co on mass ave. The finest British food this side of the big pond. 2019-09-22 17-59-30 PDT Martin Owens I was at million year picnic for an hour. 2019-08-22 20-59-36 PDT Martin Owens Sounds like you've got quite a day packed. I'll message, but don't worry about it, we can meet next week too. 2020-03-30 13-50-15 PDT Martin Owens That's great, but you'll need something small to get started on 2019-08-28 18-44-17 PDT Martin Owens Most Inkscape people are European. 2020-03-30 13-52-40 PDT Martin Owens For coding, I'd have a look at the bug list here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/boards 2019-09-13 02-05-41 PDT Martin Owens I'm not sure yet. 2019-09-04 16-27-49 PDT Martin Owens It's looking good! 2020-02-29 13-15-09 PST Martin Owens The weekday thing fits with Mo's MO. I think she's in the office only some days and tends to only do things during work hours. Did she say what times? 2020-03-30 13-52-51 PDT Martin Owens (there are mac tags too, but those bugs are nasty hard) 2019-08-17 16-12-10 PDT Martin Owens I think that's the same place. B/c it used to be an Indian place and there isn't one near there now. 2019-09-17 19-21-15 PDT Martin Owens I might not. My grandmother just died, so I may be in the UK. It's all a bit in the air. 2019-08-17 13-20-52 PDT Martin Owens Sam the man is the owner there. He goes surfing a lot or used to. 2019-09-19 18-32-24 PDT Martin Owens Yes 2019-08-28 18-52-41 PDT Martin Owens As for it to be pulled through Inkscape as a favour to me :-D 2019-09-08 16-43-28 PDT Martin Owens I'm at million year picknick 2019-09-12 17-14-07 PDT Martin Owens Oh and Mo had her baby btw. :-) 2020-02-29 13-30-58 PST Martin Owens A work thing I could do from 11am, and if social. That could be lunch time or dinner time depending. 2019-08-16 19-25-03 PDT Martin Owens Hello! 2019-09-12 17-13-23 PDT Martin Owens Yes-ish. I think they have a website but not deployed. 2020-02-29 13-15-31 PST Martin Owens (I'm posting here because it's more personal details etc) 2019-08-28 18-44-12 PDT Martin Owens Not that I know of. 2019-08-28 17-13-06 PDT Martin Owens (or meet you somewhere specific beforehand) 2019-09-16 08-45-29 PDT Martin Owens I did go, yes! Missed your message here. And you missed my wild hair colour :-D 2019-09-12 17-13-56 PDT Martin Owens I just met a friend from RedHat here in Ashmont surprisingly since he lives in southie. 2019-09-12 06-27-44 PDT Martin Owens Cool, was the advice "don't use django-cms"? because I know that one already ;-) 2019-08-28 18-44-43 PDT Martin Owens But not heard of any going to FOSDEM 2019-08-28 19-09-23 PDT Martin Owens your happy with the build? 2019-09-07 09-22-55 PDT Martin Owens I didn't even get to do any work 2019-08-22 14-35-25 PDT Martin Owens Not sure, I should be able to ride out of Ashmont early. And my only piece is giving a talk after lunch. 2019-09-20 16-11-19 PDT Martin Owens Thanks. I may still end up going this week, depends on how things shake out. 2019-09-04 21-44-54 PDT Martin Owens Yes, should also be available tomorrow/today (Thursday) in longwood too :-) 2020-02-29 13-29-21 PST Martin Owens Ah that makes sense. 2020-02-29 15-43-05 PST Martin Owens Those times work for me. 2019-09-22 17-59-16 PDT Martin Owens Oh sorry to miss you. Just sat down. 2019-09-06 01-00-01 PDT Martin Owens Not sure now. Everyone is away at some weird office wide field conference. As a contractor I wouldn't be there. 2019-09-18 08-15-46 PDT Martin Owens Thank you. 2019-09-07 20-51-59 PDT Martin Owens I'll be there for sure. Hope to see you there! 2019-08-28 17-12-46 PDT Martin Owens Yes, should be there again this week. 2020-02-29 13-30-14 PST Martin Owens It depends if it's a social event or more of a work event. 2019-09-12 16-02-47 PDT Martin Owens This might be the time to team up and see what can be done accross the universities. 2019-09-07 09-22-47 PDT Martin Owens A bit yes, I went on a number of walks groaning like some sort zombie trying to overcome. :-D sleep and no sleep, all whacked. 2020-03-30 13-52-20 PDT Martin Owens It can be. So Merge requests you should go here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C… 2019-08-28 18-39-04 PDT Martin Owens NP 2019-08-28 11-25-20 PDT Martin Owens I'm not sure on this Friday. With school starting and everything in the calendar going all weird. 2019-08-28 18-39-13 PDT Martin Owens I dead from reading about Brexit anyway 2020-03-30 13-49-08 PDT Martin Owens Did you get pointed i the right direction? 2020-03-30 13-57-51 PDT Martin Owens Sure thing! I might be asleep but I'll get to it 2020-03-02 08-08-12 PST Martin Owens No thoughts on first Wednsday, I'm kinda still dizzy and not myself atm. 2020-03-30 13-50-28 PDT Martin Owens Do you want to code or would you like to look at some docs? 2019-09-12 16-02-33 PDT Martin Owens Information: RedHat are focusing a project called BOSSY (Boston Open Source), the project is at the moment focused on BU because that's the relationships they have, but they expect to also involve Northeastern. There they have some money for student workers and snacks to organise talks, educating on open source tools, contributing and other important topics. 2019-08-22 10-37-50 PDT Martin Owens Are we meeting tomorrow at HMS? 2019-08-28 17-12-59 PDT Martin Owens Let me know if you want to meet up and I'll keep an eye open. 2019-09-08 15-51-48 PDT Martin Owens I'm on the train now. So any lime in 25mins onwards works for me. 2019-08-28 18-40-27 PDT Martin Owens Never to FOSDEM, only been to SCaLE 2019-09-19 18-32-35 PDT Martin Owens But not quite yet. There are delays getting family together. 2019-09-08 16-43-36 PDT Martin Owens Nearby

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2021-02-26 14-15-02 PST Martin Owens Hello Mike 2021-02-26 14-15-19 PST Martin Owens You need to download the file to your computer to edit it 2021-02-26 14-07-11 PST Mike Croghan Hello, doctormo. Thanks for your quick reply. After posting my first message, I found the Inkscape file I'd made on Google. But of course, I can't revise or edit. Suggestions? 2021-02-26 14-09-41 PST Mike Croghan Oh, and forgot to answer your message. I'm way new to Inkscape. That drawing was my first and only. 2021-02-26 15-13-50 PST Mike Croghan I have it in an open tab in Google and on my desktop. But I don't know how to get it to Inkscape or some place I can continue to work on it. 2021-02-27 07-54-13 PST Mike Croghan Good morning, doctormo. I browsed around this morning and got a lead off YouTube. By opening the 'file' menu on Inkscape and choosing 'import, I saw my desktop listed. I chose the file I wanted and BOOM!, it opened in Inkscape. Gotta go! My file awaits my attention! Thanks tons for your help!

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2019-12-22 12-21-54 PST Victor Westmann :smile: :thumbsup: 2019-12-21 18-44-05 PST Victor Westmann Let me know if you believe I can help you ok? :thumbsup: 2019-12-21 18-43-52 PST Victor Westmann Michele mentioned you could use an extra pair of hands to do some testing in Inkscape for the Windows platform 2019-12-21 18-43-35 PST Victor Westmann Hey Jabier, how are you doing today my friend? 2019-12-22 12-03-56 PST Jabier Arraiza thanks so much for the offer, I ping you when need, Thanks!!!!!

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 13 Messages, 0 Files, 527664 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: c.rogers & windell.oskay
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2020-04-27 09-41-45 PDT C.Rogers Yes, I think we'll leave it open. You can also email me at cajhne(a)gmail.com anytime if you have questions or concerns. 2020-04-27 06-37-51 PDT C.Rogers You asked if you'd overstepped your bounds, and I wanted to address that privately with you to help clear things up, if you have questions. :) 2020-04-27 06-36-11 PDT C.Rogers Hi! :) 2020-04-27 09-42-22 PDT C.Rogers And again, thanks for keeping an eye out for us. :) 2020-04-27 09-32-57 PDT C.Rogers You're spot on about calling a moderator about it, though. :) There's not really much need to address the person directly if they are not behaving. Seldom does it do anything but escalate. People gotta calm down first. 2020-04-27 06-36-50 PDT C.Rogers Just wanted to touch base on the "incident" we discussed privately a few days ago. 2020-04-27 09-41-05 PDT C.Rogers My pleasure. Inkscape has always been a welcoming group of people for me, and it's my pleasure to help preserve that for others too. 2020-04-27 09-38-37 PDT C.Rogers Thanks for your help in the situation, and joining the discussion on it. :) Hope you had a great weekend despite the drama. 2020-04-27 09-31-27 PDT C.Rogers Yes. As an unwritten rule, we don't tell people they aren't welcome. It's fine to ask them to leave if they are misbehaving, but no one in the project has the authority to tell people they are not welcome in the forums, or in the project. It's how we preserve our reputation as being freindly and open to everyone (even if they are violating the CoC, which frankly, everyone does from time to time). 2020-04-27 09-40-29 PDT Windell Oskay Can you leave the #private_coc channel open, or create a #mod_request channel, or some other routine method for some of us or all of us to request mod help when needed? 2020-04-27 09-13-27 PDT Windell Oskay Hey, thanks. In retrospect, I should have waited until I was able to recall who to summon for moderation, rather than directly engaging. In the moment, the language that I saw being used was well past unacceptable, and I felt partial responsibility for shutting it down immediately. 2020-04-27 09-39-58 PDT Windell Oskay And, thank you for all of your hard and teeth grinding work this. 2020-04-27 09-43-12 PDT Windell Oskay Thanks!

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2020-05-10 16-59-43 PDT Lydia Hill Hi I have a cross stitch machine embroidery pattern and when I open it in inkscape it has these small scissors all over. I believe the are jump stitches that I would normally cut. I was wondering if they can be decrease if not eliminated 2020-05-11 21-33-09 PDT catherine IDK if anyone can help me. I am new to Inkscape. I just downloaded it yesterday and have been playing with it. I messed up so many settings and want to return to the default settings. I am on a Mac and have scoured the internet to figure out how to do this. Only one source came up but it proved useless for me. Please help. I don't know how to get the old Inkscape back and no matter how many times I delete and reinstall, the default settings have not reappeared ... because I'm sure the program is "living" somewhere on my computer. 2020-05-06 21-56-28 PDT David Rojas Hello, I am wondering if the break apart function changed with 1.0 because I can not get it to work in the same way as before 2020-05-14 09-19-36 PDT Darryl Miller Dowmloaded newest version, Font is locked in on one font, can't change. Also can't scroll through the fonts. 2020-05-17 11-02-23 PDT Darryl Miller Why is minus up and the plus down on the left side measurement? How can I change? 2020-05-06 13-15-31 PDT katherine greer I am trying to thicken my font on inkscape and a tutorial i watched mentioned that you use the outset option under path, however it will not allow me to use the function...help? 2020-05-07 16-17-11 PDT Mary H I dont know the inkscape vocabulary yet so I dont know an easy way to ask this. If I have an object, say a triangle, and I want to echo the path .25" to the outside, how do I do that? 2020-05-25 18-56-31 PDT Moini Private Group (room_changed_privacy) 2020-05-21 11-40-55 PDT Johannes Lingenfelder Has joined the channel. 2020-05-10 16-58-58 PDT Lydia Hill Has joined the channel. 2020-05-11 21-30-23 PDT catherine Has joined the channel. 2020-05-09 03-13-49 PDT TL Stanbro Has joined the channel. 2020-05-06 21-55-47 PDT David Rojas Has joined the channel. 2020-05-14 09-17-07 PDT Darryl Miller Has joined the channel. 2020-05-07 16-16-37 PDT Mary H Has joined the channel. 2020-05-25 18-55-35 PDT Moini Has joined the channel.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 331 Messages, 6 Files, 1186915 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: ryangorley & c.rogers
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2019-03-12 13-12-44 PDT C.Rogers what can I answer for you? 2020-04-25 09-39-10 PDT C.Rogers Hey man. I got a video call with my family in 30mins. Can we postpone a brainstorm for like tomorrow or something? I'm already fried. lol 2019-03-05 09-33-20 PST C.Rogers Yep. It is 2019-03-05 00-14-03 PST C.Rogers Them days are gone apparently. Chrome doesn't remember anything but my chat password for that site. 2019-03-05 05-59-08 PST C.Rogers Hi Ryan. Coupe things: 2020-06-06 09-34-32 PDT C.Rogers Also, how awesome is it that Doc wants to give us ctrl of the website? lol 2019-04-03 10-27-57 PDT C.Rogers I'm ready to go when you are, and yep! 2019-03-31 02-48-52 PDT C.Rogers It fits their theme much better 2019-03-31 02-48-32 PDT C.Rogers Also, I think they will prefer the finished super hero kid. 2020-06-06 09-44-27 PDT C.Rogers My main concern is that it's satisfying work. :) 2019-04-03 16-04-04 PDT C.Rogers Actually, one of them is off, hang on. 2019-04-03 16-09-28 PDT C.Rogers Sure, working up the colour sheet now. 2019-04-05 05-57-52 PDT C.Rogers Also link here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TGihkOiS9seyZSqb6epQrgCHy5K911DBPCw3LmB… 2019-04-05 12-58-06 PDT C.Rogers It really came together! Nice! 2020-06-06 09-35-11 PDT C.Rogers I figured that would be one of those eternal fight things. :) 2019-03-12 13-59-40 PDT C.Rogers What can I answer for you? 2019-03-12 14-09-37 PDT C.Rogers Cool, sounds perfect. 2019-04-11 15-38-29 PDT C.Rogers I eventually get this instead of a login screen: 2020-06-06 10-00-14 PDT C.Rogers Cool. I'll write him an email asking what time he'd like to meet this week for our first branding meeting. 2020-06-06 09-35-44 PDT C.Rogers Time to fish out the old inkscape website mockup you made earlier. :) 2019-04-05 14-00-11 PDT C.Rogers So basically, I'd be the 8th cat in your herd. ;) 2019-04-05 13-46-14 PDT C.Rogers (instead of unity) 2019-04-03 10-27-25 PDT C.Rogers Absolutely. 2019-04-05 05-57-37 PDT C.Rogers It's in your inbox. 2019-04-01 11-46-20 PDT C.Rogers Hi Ryan, as promised, here are some samples to pass along. Tell them not to worry about the colour too much at this point. I've used the cottonwood heights blue as a basis, but if they can send some visual samples (photos) of the shirts, I'll be happy to come up with a colour-scheme which works for them, and show them what they will look like on the shirts. 2020-06-06 09-56-23 PDT C.Rogers As far as short term plans, I think the first step is to define a style and branding for Inkscape as a basis, and start getting Vectors used to using it. 2019-03-31 02-46-45 PDT C.Rogers Hey. Yes, I'll have samples for you Monday. 2019-04-11 15-36-12 PDT C.Rogers getting the three dots on grey screen over and over. 2019-04-03 10-23-18 PDT C.Rogers Sure. What kind of shirt is it? I can send mockups of size and placement if they like. 2019-04-05 05-48-45 PDT C.Rogers Cool, thanks. 2020-01-16 06-31-29 PST C.Rogers (get everyone paid) :) 2019-04-02 11-19-40 PDT C.Rogers Rather "how much time do we have left"? 2019-03-05 10-29-53 PST C.Rogers Having a bit of trouble accessing our discussions about the logo. They don't seem to be showing up in freehive. 2019-04-03 10-24-54 PDT C.Rogers I'll do it today after I get back from my Linux meetup 2019-03-05 11-16-10 PST C.Rogers Sweet thanks. I really do appreciate the work too. 2019-03-05 09-34-19 PST C.Rogers Obviously let the printer know not to print the green dieline. That should go without saying, but I always say it anyway. 2019-04-11 15-38-47 PDT C.Rogers Screenshot from 2019-04-11 23-38-02.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/DJidmQoFb469hNKSK/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2019-04-05 12-47-20 PDT C.Rogers I can help visualise. 2019-03-05 09-30-12 PST C.Rogers And added 0.16in worth of bleed 2019-04-03 10-24-14 PDT C.Rogers Okay. 2019-04-03 10-25-32 PDT C.Rogers Awesome. 2019-04-29 13-01-44 PDT C.Rogers Send me some links to the style you want, and I'll send you something tomorrow to demonstrate. 2019-03-03 00-31-36 PST C.Rogers No problem. :) 2019-03-31 02-47-46 PDT C.Rogers Same price. 2019-03-05 09-31-13 PST C.Rogers Is the one that has "2 sides". Cool 2020-06-06 09-54-55 PDT C.Rogers Sure, I can bring it to the board. 2019-04-30 06-58-24 PDT C.Rogers Hi Ryan, your freehive website is experiencing problems I think. 2019-03-12 15-02-15 PDT C.Rogers I'll check it first thing in the morming. 2019-04-03 10-28-37 PDT C.Rogers Thanks for handling it for us. 2019-03-05 09-29-47 PST C.Rogers I used the dimensions in your new version. 2019-04-05 12-49-14 PDT C.Rogers Oh sweet, they are FOSS developers too! 2019-03-05 00-12-31 PST C.Rogers shit, username and password. 2019-04-05 12-45-43 PDT C.Rogers Okay, does the lateness of the project start affect the projected timeline? 2019-03-04 23-54-52 PST C.Rogers Yep. 2019-03-12 13-59-43 PDT C.Rogers :) 2020-06-06 09-34-05 PDT C.Rogers Yes, I'm tempted to take the position, but would like to know what the responsibilities are, so I can manage them effectively. 2020-06-06 09-42-34 PDT C.Rogers (including myself) 2019-04-11 15-35-49 PDT C.Rogers hmm, doesn't seem to want to load. 2019-04-05 14-00-52 PDT C.Rogers I'd have done nothing good for your scope creep, likely. lol 2019-03-05 00-03-25 PST C.Rogers Ubuntu Linux 2019-03-12 13-59-08 PDT C.Rogers Yep. 2019-04-05 14-01-55 PDT C.Rogers I'm certain we could. With A-frame people can walk around the scene. Completely immersive. 2019-04-30 07-01-03 PDT C.Rogers nevermind, think I got logged out somehow. 2020-06-06 09-59-33 PDT C.Rogers You said the funds have cleared from JD? 2020-02-03 10-57-38 PST C.Rogers Hey man. Hope you're okay. Just checking in to see if you wanted to fill me in on the SelectFlex project stuff. Can't get a hold of you on Telegram, so checking here too. ;) 2019-04-05 13-09-17 PDT C.Rogers It was revolutionary. Especially for someone who was pushing pixels around with Paintbrush. 2019-03-05 00-10-45 PST C.Rogers trying to install the snap. 2019-03-12 14-10-40 PDT C.Rogers For an extra fee. :) 2020-06-06 09-57-05 PDT C.Rogers That will also give us more time to build out creativefreedom.org and show off how awesome our dev skills are. ;) 2020-03-01 07-59-05 PST C.Rogers Hey man. Just checking in. I see you have not been getting my messages on Telegram, so thought I'd reach out here. :) 2020-06-06 09-34-57 PDT C.Rogers Me neither. :) 2019-03-12 14-08-04 PDT C.Rogers That should even out the cost pretty well I think. 2019-04-03 06-10-34 PDT C.Rogers super_hero_bike_ride_comic_colours.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/m9v7EGJEazYq45KJb/super_hero_bike_rid…) 2020-06-06 09-43-07 PDT C.Rogers Yea, I read back. 2019-03-05 00-18-59 PST C.Rogers No worries. Sleep well. 2020-06-06 09-43-13 PDT C.Rogers I think it's spot on. 2020-04-25 09-41-20 PDT C.Rogers You too. :) 2019-03-12 14-10-22 PDT C.Rogers And yes, I can animate them. 2019-04-05 12-56-30 PDT C.Rogers Reminds me I need to incorporate some of that scroll-down paralaxing stuff in my portfolio website. 2019-04-05 13-54-12 PDT C.Rogers It's got a physics engine built into it too. 2019-03-05 00-11-53 PST C.Rogers the snap worked. 2019-03-04 15-17-17 PST C.Rogers Drop me an email if you do. I'll pick it up first thing tomorrow morning. 2020-04-25 09-41-16 PDT C.Rogers Yea, I'll probably do that. 2020-06-06 10-28-12 PDT C.Rogers You too. 2020-06-06 09-54-41 PDT C.Rogers Ah you mean when it's time to show people our stuff? 2020-04-25 09-40-39 PDT C.Rogers I'm running on coffee and fumes at the moment. 2019-04-05 13-09-28 PDT C.Rogers (pre MS-Paint) 2019-03-12 14-06-32 PDT C.Rogers all as detailed as the one you showed me? 2019-03-05 07-56-56 PST C.Rogers Hi Ryan. Hope you slept well. 2020-01-16 06-34-24 PST C.Rogers Hope you're doing okay. 2019-03-05 10-31-13 PST C.Rogers And sorry. Should have done it right away. I'd totally forgotten about it. 2019-03-12 14-04-51 PDT C.Rogers My usual logo design price is 250 (pounds) but that's likely too much for a per graphic charge. 2019-04-02 13-21-15 PDT C.Rogers Eeek! Okay. 2019-03-05 06-00-33 PST C.Rogers What's the bleed and trim size of the final? Their screenshot isn't perfectly square, but your new one is. Your new version doesn't include a bleed area, which will be needed to ensure the colour runs all the way to the edge of the final trimmed version. 2019-04-03 16-05-03 PDT C.Rogers There, better. :) 2020-06-06 09-57-23 PDT C.Rogers Haha *we* are the right men for the job. lol 2019-04-03 08-39-43 PDT C.Rogers tyre in front or behind the title 2019-04-05 14-02-27 PDT C.Rogers It's compatable with google cardboard and other vr headsets too. 2019-04-02 13-22-05 PDT C.Rogers Alright. You can put them in contact with me directly if you like, may save some back and forth and bother for you. 2019-03-04 23-53-43 PST C.Rogers Probably done with React 2019-04-05 13-46-02 PDT C.Rogers Cool. I do wonder if this could be done in aframe 2019-03-05 00-00-46 PST C.Rogers Okay, I don't have nextcloud on this machine, so I'll install it now. 2019-04-05 13-54-16 PDT C.Rogers Fun to play with. 2019-03-12 14-07-40 PDT C.Rogers Okay, how about 200 USD per illustration. 2020-06-06 09-55-13 PDT C.Rogers Doc will help with that. 2019-04-05 13-59-05 PDT C.Rogers Yea, I didn't get at all that it was a playable game when you sent me the link. 2019-04-01 11-48-12 PDT C.Rogers Super_hero_bike_ride_1.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/q7aCd8EQN5hsuHgqH/Super_hero_bike_rid…) 2019-03-04 23-45-46 PST C.Rogers does it have to be svg? 2019-04-05 13-07-50 PDT C.Rogers So round about the same time. 2019-04-05 13-36-23 PDT C.Rogers You get your cat-herding merit badge. :) 2019-03-01 10-03-48 PST C.Rogers Hey man. How's it going? 2019-04-03 17-29-57 PDT C.Rogers let me know if you need anything else. :) 2019-04-05 13-57-04 PDT C.Rogers Really cool. Only a few small usability things I'd have changed. Love the artwork, the soundtracks, the website and the rest of it. :) 2019-03-04 15-12-37 PST C.Rogers Hey man. Heading to bed here soon. Did you need anything? 2019-04-11 15-34-32 PDT C.Rogers Cool. 2019-04-05 13-43-58 PDT C.Rogers All I can seem to find are movies. 2019-04-10 10-15-32 PDT C.Rogers Hey Ryan. :) Can you re-send me that link to the isometric design/animations? I'd like to have a look at it again and figure out which tools are best to use for it. 2019-03-04 23-54-00 PST C.Rogers SOmeone asking for this, or just curious? 2019-04-09 16-28-41 PDT C.Rogers Thanks for the review! 2019-03-05 07-59-01 PST C.Rogers Is this what they are after? 2019-04-05 12-44-27 PDT C.Rogers Sweet, thanks again for the work. 2019-04-03 17-29-33 PDT C.Rogers Okay, that should be the lot. 2019-04-05 13-43-50 PDT C.Rogers Is the game still up? 2019-04-09 07-49-57 PDT C.Rogers Hey Ryan. Hope everything is going well for you this week. Can you do me a favour and leave a review for me on this website? It's for small freelance jobs: http://bvn.bz/r538845 2020-01-16 06-32-26 PST C.Rogers If they have already paid for the other stuff I won't mention it. 2019-04-05 12-48-04 PDT C.Rogers Cool, thanks. 2019-03-04 23-48-21 PST C.Rogers It is pretty though. :slight_smile: 2019-03-05 00-03-28 PST C.Rogers 18.10 2019-04-05 13-57-16 PDT C.Rogers (for your project) 2019-04-05 12-49-18 PDT C.Rogers Nice one. 2019-03-12 14-04-58 PDT C.Rogers No idea how many thaty want? 2019-04-05 13-07-42 PDT C.Rogers Haha, the first Photoshop version I had was 2.5 2020-06-06 10-03-16 PDT C.Rogers I cced you . 2019-04-03 16-04-53 PDT C.Rogers shirts_black_logo.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/gnHG3jo7r4bAbe7Sd/shirts_black_logo.p…) 2019-04-03 16-03-30 PDT C.Rogers shirts_black_logo.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/7YJhSYC6xXEapQ2LJ/shirts_black_logo.p…) 2020-06-06 09-48-50 PDT C.Rogers Then it's easier to point to it as something we've decided together. 2019-04-03 16-05-59 PDT C.Rogers That's okay, just use the second one. :) 2020-06-06 09-43-38 PDT C.Rogers Maybe an onboarding animation. 2019-04-05 13-53-49 PDT C.Rogers Yea, going to learn a bunch of A-Frame would be awesome to set up 3D galleries and experiences. 2020-06-06 09-50-36 PDT C.Rogers Yea, but really the assets need to match our website to be the most effective. 2020-06-06 09-42-14 PDT C.Rogers I'm super happy about all the new people. Nice job herding the cats! lol 2019-03-12 14-13-14 PDT C.Rogers Animation would likely double the price. But that depends on the animation. 2019-03-05 10-30-38 PST C.Rogers But anyway, I remember you had a budget for that one. What was it? Just tell me what it was worth to you, and I'll invoice for that. 2019-03-05 07-59-45 PST C.Rogers amber_setup_card_3d_sample_render.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/CwSoy4HuSojM6G8Kt/amber_setup_card_3d…) 2019-04-05 13-35-51 PDT C.Rogers Wow, really extensive project! 2019-04-03 08-41-34 PDT C.Rogers No problem. If they want anymore changes that's fine too. 2020-04-25 09-40-20 PDT C.Rogers Yea, you too probably. lol 2020-06-06 09-48-10 PDT C.Rogers So what I recommend is that we draw up such a style guide for Inkscape, and present it to the board for approval. 2020-06-06 09-41-47 PDT C.Rogers Yep. :) 2020-06-06 09-36-08 PDT C.Rogers Though Maybe after we get creativefreedom.org started. 2019-04-05 12-47-11 PDT C.Rogers Feel free to pass me all the data as you get it. 2019-03-12 13-12-31 PDT C.Rogers Sure. 2019-03-12 15-02-00 PDT C.Rogers No problem. I've got to get to sleep now. If you need anything else, just email me or message here. 2020-06-06 09-43-51 PDT C.Rogers SO YOU WANT TO BE AN INKSCAPE VECTOR... 2019-03-04 23-45-36 PST C.Rogers Could do it in Blender with regular video though. 2019-03-05 00-10-37 PST C.Rogers Okay. well that nextcloud ppa didn't do anything. 2019-04-03 16-06-18 PDT C.Rogers it's "better" ;) 2019-04-05 12-50-04 PDT C.Rogers That always makes me 2x as excited about the project for some reason. :) 2019-04-05 12-45-55 PDT C.Rogers Like... should I start on it now? :) 2019-03-12 14-35-31 PDT C.Rogers Yea, I'm okay with double the price to animate. If you need to cut that down a bit to make the sale, feel free. 2019-04-05 12-55-12 PDT C.Rogers Nice! 2020-06-06 09-43-31 PDT C.Rogers Needs a video. ;) 2019-04-03 08-40-13 PDT C.Rogers Yea, that one gives more of a sense of flying I think, but costs a bit of readability. 2019-04-05 13-59-44 PDT C.Rogers And all I did was watch the first video, the first time you posted it. 2019-04-05 12-55-17 PDT C.Rogers Your artwork? 2020-06-06 09-49-24 PDT C.Rogers We're looking for approval, not art direction. :) 2020-06-06 09-47-09 PDT C.Rogers Otherwise, I feel bad about saying "no" to people donating graphics. 2019-03-05 00-15-37 PST C.Rogers thanks 2020-01-16 06-31-21 PST C.Rogers I wanted to check in and see if GATE paid you for anything yet. If not I can use the graphics for the manual as leverage to get you paid. 2020-01-16 06-30-28 PST C.Rogers Hey man. You around? 2020-06-06 09-48-30 PDT C.Rogers So we have some backing for it. 2019-04-05 13-54-31 PDT C.Rogers Works on even really crappy hardware, which is quite amazing. 2019-03-12 14-16-40 PDT C.Rogers Yea, that's good. :) 2020-06-06 10-02-48 PDT C.Rogers Sent. :) 2020-06-06 09-44-12 PDT C.Rogers There is always more work for me. lol 2020-06-06 10-03-26 PDT C.Rogers But I'll handle it. 2020-06-06 09-53-53 PDT C.Rogers Eh, I don't want to be approving things myself. I think everyone on the board should be on-board (snerk) with what we're doing. 2020-06-06 09-46-48 PDT C.Rogers Yea, I guess we need to make a branding document for Inkscape which defines a style, so people can follow it. 2019-03-05 00-02-53 PST C.Rogers rats... is there no free version? 2019-03-04 23-45-14 PST C.Rogers not with svgs. 2020-06-06 09-50-54 PDT C.Rogers I guess we can start there, and maybe make a better case for revising the website though. 2019-04-01 11-48-59 PDT C.Rogers Just looking which style they would like to go with and any other comments. 2019-03-31 02-49-39 PDT C.Rogers Though 2019-04-02 11-19-11 PDT C.Rogers Cool. I'll get you some variations tomorrow. How are we looking to meet their deadline? 2019-04-03 16-10-05 PDT C.Rogers No problem. :) 2019-04-29 13-00-46 PDT C.Rogers Hi Ryan. Yes, I have some experience. Can you provide a style sample so I can see what they are after? 2019-04-03 10-26-22 PDT C.Rogers Don't suppose you have heard back about the orthographic illustrations yet? 2019-03-31 02-47-29 PDT C.Rogers I'll do them the two they are asking for. 2019-03-31 02-46-55 PDT C.Rogers Is that okay? 2020-06-06 10-28-08 PDT C.Rogers Sounds good. :) 2019-03-05 09-30-32 PST C.Rogers Can you see it on the folder? 2019-03-31 02-49-30 PDT C.Rogers Than just the sillohuette. T high I will flesh that one out too. 2019-04-30 06-58-47 PDT C.Rogers I can't get messages through to here: https://chat.freehive.com/group/rcon1811_website 2020-06-06 09-55-03 PDT C.Rogers Haha, yep. 2019-03-05 00-14-16 PST C.Rogers can't even log in. 2019-03-12 14-08-42 PDT C.Rogers It will also include getting a style they like. 2020-06-06 09-59-07 PDT C.Rogers Thanks! I'm actually taking today off mostly, doing a little cleaning, but I'll ping you when I get something started. 2019-03-05 00-11-00 PST C.Rogers Sounds good. 2019-04-05 12-46-48 PDT C.Rogers Okay, cool. 2019-03-05 06-23-30 PST C.Rogers There is also a powerpoint included with the files that shows setup instructions. Are you sure this isn't a folded document, with instructions on the inside? 2019-03-05 09-32-12 PST C.Rogers Nice. 2019-03-04 23-47-40 PST C.Rogers Yea, regular video sounds better then. Chrome has a lot of market share, but I'm loathe to create content that alows them to maintain a monopoly. 2019-04-02 13-23-09 PDT C.Rogers Cool. 2019-03-05 08-01-19 PST C.Rogers I didn't really adjust anything from their screenshot, just changed the font, made it square and made the corners a radius that is more like their original. 2019-03-05 00-08-59 PST Ryan Gorley Look in the LTTC1902_Misc > SetupCard directory. Basically they shared a comp with me (you'll see the screenshot in there), I put together a revision that I felt was more legible, (setup-card-d1) they said no. I did another revision closer to what they had like they asked (setup-card-d2), they said it's too different. Basically we just need to produce their comp, more-or-less identically, but with League Spartan and Open Sans, and give it back to them as a print-ready CMYK PDF for front and back. The QR codes can remain as I added them, but the download stuff beneath should be smaller. It will take the same amount of time to explain this as it probably would have to do it, but I'm sick (literally) and tired, and just need some help. 2019-04-05 13-51-56 PDT Ryan Gorley A-Frame is cool. I hadn't seen that before. We had done work using three.js but that would have been a nightmare. 2019-03-05 10-35-31 PST Ryan Gorley I don't remember, but I think it was two hours. If you're okay with that, then bill me for 2. 2020-04-25 09-40-07 PDT Ryan Gorley Let's talk Monday. No worries. You need some rest. :) 2020-06-06 09-43-11 PDT Ryan Gorley Vectors 2.0 baby 2019-04-03 16-09-47 PDT Ryan Gorley Cool. Thanks for working late on this! 2019-03-05 00-04-17 PST Ryan Gorley https://launchpad.net/~nextcloud-devs/+archive/ubuntu/client 2019-04-03 10-24-03 PDT Ryan Gorley Sounds like it will be either a yellow or green t-shirt. Don't know beyond that though. 2019-04-05 12-59-01 PDT Ryan Gorley It's like herding cats. 2019-03-04 23-58-15 PST Ryan Gorley I just shared a Nextcloud folder with you via cloud.freehive.com 2019-04-05 12-58-48 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, about killed me managing 7 creatives at the same time. I like how it turned out though. 2019-03-12 14-02-18 PDT Ryan Gorley I'd like to have you create those. Do you feel comfortable giving me a budget that I could work with in getting them a quote? 2020-06-06 10-04-17 PDT Ryan Gorley Awesome, thanks man. Enjoy some time off. We can get back to the madness on Monday. :) 2019-04-03 16-05-38 PDT Ryan Gorley Alright, cool. Don't even know what you changed. lol :) 2019-03-05 00-16-32 PST Ryan Gorley 'night :wave: :sleeping: 2019-04-05 14-00-51 PDT Ryan Gorley Haha, hopefully there will be a next time. We'll have to top this, if so. 2019-03-04 23-58-26 PST Ryan Gorley LTTC1902_Misc 2019-04-05 13-44-23 PDT Ryan Gorley At the end of the movies (except Earth) it will trigger the start of the game. 2019-04-11 14-14-05 PDT Ryan Gorley Hey, I've created a channel on chat.freehive.com for the three of us working on this to communicate stuff like this. I've posted some links there, but will share mockups as they start to develop over the next few days. 2019-04-05 12-46-33 PDT Ryan Gorley Ah, no. I don't think so. I've got to pin them down on the messaging before we can build the illustrations around the messaging. 2019-04-03 10-25-24 PDT Ryan Gorley Sweet, thanks! I'll share a folder with you in nextcloud that you can dump everything in. 2020-06-06 09-45-51 PDT Ryan Gorley Between you and me, the project could benefit from some creative direction. We lack continuity in our presentation, and the quality isn't always up to the level one would expect from a professional-grade graphics application. I can't enact change across the whole project, but at least as far as what we are doing as a team, I think you're the man to help us get there. 2019-03-05 10-51-39 PST Ryan Gorley Thanks for all the help! 2019-04-05 13-50-41 PDT Ryan Gorley Our interactive guy had some prior experience with Unity3D, which was important on an 8 week deadline. 2019-04-03 08-39-37 PDT Ryan Gorley Oh the bike is in front, okay! 2019-04-03 10-27-11 PDT Ryan Gorley ...ish. The project has been approved, but I've not seen the initial payment yet. I give it a 90% chance of going through still. You still available? 2019-03-12 11-28-48 PDT Ryan Gorley Hey, are you available for a couple quick questions? 2019-04-03 10-28-17 PDT Ryan Gorley I'm following up today with them. 2019-04-09 16-32-51 PDT Ryan Gorley You bet 😊 2020-06-06 09-50-06 PDT Ryan Gorley As far as I am concerned, the Vectors are creating all the visual assets outside of the website already. If we enact it as a team, that will get us half way at least. 2019-04-02 13-23-01 PDT Ryan Gorley Thanks. I just told them tomorrow. No worries. 2020-06-06 09-56-12 PDT Ryan Gorley As a team we have enough autonomy to enact our own style guide, so if it looks like it's going to be a problem to get the _whole_ project to agree on something like that, then I say skip it and we'll just enact it for ourselves. 2019-03-05 10-51-35 PST Ryan Gorley I had a potential project just come in. I'll keep you posted on that. 2019-03-12 14-07-06 PDT Ryan Gorley Some, but not all. Not animated (though I have a question in that regard). 2019-03-05 09-35-14 PST Ryan Gorley Yeah, seriously. Haha. 2019-03-05 00-12-03 PST Ryan Gorley Okay, cool. 2019-03-04 23-54-44 PST Ryan Gorley I've got a couple quicky projects. You have time today? 2019-03-05 00-10-51 PST Ryan Gorley I want to start handing more of their stuff off to you and need you to get comfortable with them. 2019-03-03 00-08-52 PST Ryan Gorley Hey bro, so sorry. Been insanely busy trying to get stuff out the door before heading to SCALE. I'll ping you on Monday. 2020-06-06 09-56-51 PDT Ryan Gorley I knew you were the right man for this job. :) 2019-03-05 00-15-15 PST Ryan Gorley Just emailed you a setup link. 2020-06-06 09-33-05 PDT Ryan Gorley Next time we talk, I can discuss what I'm thinking as far as a creative direction role on the Vectors team. I know you're super busy, but we need someone like yourself who is the keeper of quality and can lead an army of minions developing sweet visuals for our different efforts. 2020-06-06 09-43-59 PDT Ryan Gorley Right! Watch out, you're creating more work for yourself! 2019-03-05 00-11-22 PST Ryan Gorley Did it not install after you did the `apt install nextcloud-client` 2019-03-12 14-03-50 PDT Ryan Gorley Maybe we could think of them as being comparable to a logo design...? 2019-04-02 07-46-17 PDT Ryan Gorley Looks awesome! I'll pass this on 2019-03-05 09-32-03 PST Ryan Gorley Yep, that's the one I shared with him. 2019-03-12 14-00-45 PDT Ryan Gorley Cool... so I'm quoting out a project for a cyber security firm... 2019-04-05 12-49-25 PDT Ryan Gorley Yep! :D 2019-03-12 15-02-08 PDT Ryan Gorley Cool 2020-06-06 10-00-22 PDT Ryan Gorley Perfect 2019-03-12 15-01-21 PDT Ryan Gorley Ah, okay. That will help. Thanks! 2019-03-12 14-13-53 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, I know it's tough. Would triple the price be safe? 2019-04-05 13-49-57 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, it was hard. We were going to use Blend4Web or Verge3D, but they were lacking in some animation features. Could have maybe used Godot, but we were more confident that Unity would have worked through the WebGL compatibility nuances between browsers. 2019-03-04 15-21-59 PST Ryan Gorley I think it was a couple hours, but I don't remember exactly. 2020-06-06 09-49-32 PDT Ryan Gorley Cool. 2019-03-05 09-32-25 PST Ryan Gorley 6.2 in should be the finished size. 2019-03-12 14-09-25 PDT Ryan Gorley Okay, cool. I'll budget $2000 USD for 8-10 still illustrations. 2020-04-25 09-41-13 PDT Ryan Gorley Take care, bro. 2020-06-06 09-38-57 PDT Ryan Gorley Haha, yeah. Sounds like ABranMuffin has some UI experience too. Maybe we can finally get that thing done! 2020-06-06 09-57-20 PDT Ryan Gorley Haha 2019-03-31 00-58-46 PDT Ryan Gorley Hey, have you been getting those messages I've forwarded from Cottonwood Heights? Any thoughts or questions? 2020-06-06 09-56-41 PDT Ryan Gorley Agreed. That would be huge. 2019-04-03 10-24-20 PDT Ryan Gorley A mockup would be much appreciated, I'm sure. Thanks! 2019-04-11 15-36-41 PDT Ryan Gorley Try the main URL and log in first. 2019-03-04 23-54-33 PST Ryan Gorley Yeah. I'm going to suggest we just do them as videos. Don't feel like the benefits outweigh the compatibility issues. 2019-03-12 15-02-18 PDT Ryan Gorley :wave: :sleeping: 2019-04-05 13-39-37 PDT Ryan Gorley Haha, yeah. Thanks :D 2020-06-06 09-46-19 PDT Ryan Gorley With people helping, of course. 2019-04-05 13-08-29 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, that would be the time period. I'm not exactly sure which version I was using, but it was way back in the beginning. 2019-04-03 10-03-18 PDT Ryan Gorley We are good to go! They like option 1. Will you create a version that can print as a one color screen print on a shirt? 2020-06-06 09-50-54 PDT Ryan Gorley We'll need to get Martin on board early then. 2020-04-25 09-40-51 PDT Ryan Gorley Take the day off tomorrow. 2019-01-25 10-06-53 PST Ryan Gorley Hey CR, I just sent you an email about a W9 form. Any chance you can take a look at that real quick? 2020-04-25 09-41-01 PDT Ryan Gorley The Inkscape stuff can wait. 2019-03-04 15-21-29 PST Ryan Gorley Hey, I figured I missed you. It was a small project, but I need to get you more closely integrated with this Amber client so I can hand stuff off more quickly. I think you need to invoice me for the time you worked on their logos last year. Please shoot that over asap so I can get some money in your bank. Thanks man 2020-06-06 09-34-52 PDT Ryan Gorley I didn't see that coming 2019-03-12 14-06-08 PDT Ryan Gorley I'm going to probably tell them how many we are recommending. I'm guessing probably 8-10 2020-06-06 09-44-07 PDT Ryan Gorley Fun work 2019-04-02 09-26-35 PDT Ryan Gorley The shirt version will just be a black screen print, so do what you want with the colors. The color version is for signage. 2019-04-11 15-36-21 PDT Ryan Gorley :thinking: 2020-06-06 09-49-09 PDT Ryan Gorley Sure, that works. I wouldn't want the board to start telling you what colors to use though. 2019-04-05 12-57-37 PDT Ryan Gorley Mostly not my artwork. I was involved at the concept stage, but all of the finished video and 3D artwork was done by others more talented than myself. :) 2019-03-05 00-00-08 PST Ryan Gorley Let me know when you see that 2019-03-05 00-12-53 PST Ryan Gorley It's whatever you setup back in the day. You can reset it at my.freehive.com 2019-04-11 15-36-46 PDT Ryan Gorley https://chat.freehive.com 2020-06-06 09-47-08 PDT Ryan Gorley And a keeper of the style who can fill in the gaps. 2019-04-05 13-58-26 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, I think usability could have used some help. If we had more time I we could have improved that with a little testing. 2019-04-05 02-03-16 PDT Ryan Gorley Sounds like they're happy with it. Please shoot me an invoice so I can get you paid up! 2019-04-03 16-08-56 PDT Ryan Gorley Cool. Can you upload the files to the empty cloud.freehive.com Nextcloud folder I shared? For both the color and black versions will you save an PNG (1200 x 1200px or so), PDF (fonts outlined), and the original SVG? 2020-06-06 09-42-52 PDT Ryan Gorley Haha, we'll see. You missed my spheel, but it's been 3 years and it's time for the Vectors to be reborn. 2019-03-12 14-03-05 PDT Ryan Gorley I know that's kind of open ended... :/ 2019-04-11 15-39-11 PDT Ryan Gorley Go to the Commons channel and you'll see a login button at the bottom of the page./ 2019-03-12 14-20-03 PDT Ryan Gorley Okay, let me do my best to price this out. I'll reach out if I need to clarify anything. I want to make sure you're getting paid fairly. Also don't want to lose money on a project. Always tricky with stuff like this, but I'll do my best. :) 2019-04-05 12-45-02 PDT Ryan Gorley You bet. Should have word on the website project later next week. They finally responded and have been busy with a project. 2019-03-12 13-56-26 PDT Ryan Gorley Crap. I've been on a client call. You still up? 2020-06-06 09-54-53 PDT Ryan Gorley I mainly don't want our effort to get stalled because some developers want to nitpick about whether our logo should look 3D or not. 2019-04-05 12-50-41 PDT Ryan Gorley Me too. It's the primary reason we landed the project. They like the thel.io campaign we did for System76. 2020-06-06 09-54-12 PDT Ryan Gorley Oh, that's not what I meant. 2019-03-04 22-20-48 PST Ryan Gorley Hey, have you ever seen or created anything like these SVG animations? https://www.freshworks.com/collaboration-software/ 2020-06-06 09-47-24 PDT Ryan Gorley Yes, in that regard it can be super helpful. 2019-04-05 13-00-45 PDT Ryan Gorley You'd probably appreciate my SCALE presentation on it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk0x1Z1VHKY&feature=youtu.be&t=14816 2019-04-11 15-36-08 PDT Ryan Gorley Are you logged in? 2019-04-05 12-47-46 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, I definitely will. The client is reconinfosec.com, but their current site doesn't reflect what we'll be doing very well. I'll pass info as I get it. 2019-03-05 09-31-01 PST Ryan Gorley Yep, I think it's about as close as we can get to what he showed. I'm waiting for his :thumbsup: 2019-03-05 00-16-42 PST Ryan Gorley (thanks!) 2019-03-05 09-16-32 PST Ryan Gorley Looks great! 2019-04-11 14-14-21 PDT Ryan Gorley https://chat.freehive.com/group/rcon1811_website 2019-03-05 00-03-08 PST Ryan Gorley Yeah, what OS are you on? 2019-04-03 16-03-52 PDT Ryan Gorley :thumbsup: Love it 2020-06-06 09-58-23 PDT Ryan Gorley Well, I'm happy to have you just tell me what you want created. :) 2020-06-06 09-59-48 PDT Ryan Gorley Yes. 2019-04-05 13-01-13 PDT Ryan Gorley ^^ That's the sanitized version. The reality was a lot messier. 2019-03-12 14-11-20 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, that was what I was just going to ask you about. Let's say the animation is comparable to the one's I shared. What would you feel comfortable bidding just one of those out at? 2019-04-03 10-27-44 PDT Ryan Gorley Awesome! Should be a fun one. 2019-04-05 12-43-59 PDT Ryan Gorley Thanks for working on this. Payment is in route. 2019-04-03 08-41-16 PDT Ryan Gorley Cool, I'll shoot this over to them right now. Thanks man 2019-03-04 23-46-32 PST Ryan Gorley Dunno. Regular video would be larger, but more robust. This only works on Chrome. 2019-04-02 13-20-54 PDT Ryan Gorley They wanted by last Friday. As soon as possible is there word. Thanks! 2019-04-02 13-21-34 PDT Ryan Gorley Don't stay up. Knock it out tomorrow. 2019-04-02 09-25-40 PDT Ryan Gorley Here's their feedback: I think the detailed silhouette looks much better than the stick figure. I think this is the right direction so far. I’d really like to see the colors pop a little to give this the playful, comic-book feel we’re after. 2019-03-05 00-16-02 PST Ryan Gorley I'm hacking out my lungs. See if you can log in and take a stab at this. If not, then I'll try to do something tomorrow. Like I said, it's tiny, but I need to get someone else working on their stuff. I'm just getting overloaded. 2019-04-03 08-39-16 PDT Ryan Gorley Very cool, but... I don't see any different between the two 🤔 2019-04-02 12-19-23 PDT Ryan Gorley I'll try to chase down my email trail to find the deadline. 2019-03-12 14-01-11 PDT Ryan Gorley We're going to create a number of isometric drawings (like the ones I linked you to the other day). The exact content is still TBD 2020-06-06 09-52-14 PDT Ryan Gorley Yeah, once we start establishing a style in all of our social media, article graphics, print collateral, etc. I think the website will start to feel out of place and it will be easier. But you're on the board, so you can decide on that. I don't think we'd get any pushback there really, except if Martin has concerns about whether he'll have to make everything. 2019-04-02 12-18-55 PDT Ryan Gorley Dunno, they're getting antsy, but tomorrow should work. Thanks!

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2019-03-20 05-11-58 PDT Michèle Thibeau As for the funds, I am fairly new to the project and am just learning about the financials, too. No idea how many people are being paid on the project. Not sure anyone is other than the odd piece of work - but that's my vague understanding. I am in Canada, and therefore not up to speed on American not-for-profit laws. That said, is the project less formal than Krita, in terms of its legal entity status? Very good point, though, and one that I will bring up when I see an opportunity. We've opened the ball of wax now - and I believe that your input has and will enable some new points of view to be on the table. Thanks, Scott! 2019-03-19 04-44-02 PDT Michèle Thibeau Hi Scott! I wanted to thank you for joining in the Watch Party conversation on Saturday! I really appreciated your questions and input. Just finished watching your SCALE presentation and you mentioned so much that I think would be useful for folks here at Inkscape to ponder. The presentation was really hard to make out in the video, so I was wondering if it would be possible to have a PDF version of it to help me better understand? Thanks so much! Loved your ideas on marketing and on collecting and using data. Looking forward to discussions in the future. Have an awesome week! 2019-03-20 05-08-06 PDT Michèle Thibeau [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/scottyp?msg=8Mi8jfjFZj2EzuZRN) Thanks, Scott! I was at work and then not feeling well last evening. Trying to catch up. () 2019-03-19 06-14-21 PDT Scott Petrovic actually looking through the mailing list that bryce sent...it looks like you guys just aren't spending much money 2019-03-19 06-18-27 PDT Scott Petrovic Europe has a lot stricter laws for non-profits. If Krita doesn't spend the money they make with donations and such, they lose their non-profit status 2019-03-19 06-10-57 PDT Scott Petrovic I am talking to some of the other devs on the Krita IRC and we are questioning some things. It appears that you guys are generating twice the money that Krita is. How many people are you currently paying to work on Inkscape? 2019-03-19 06-17-41 PDT Scott Petrovic your bank account balance is twice what Krita's is 2019-03-19 06-02-28 PDT Scott Petrovic Sure. It was great talking with some of the inkscape people at SCALE and seeing how a larger open source project is ran. For the presentation here are the slides... https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/sites/default/files/presentations/How%20We%2…

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2020-07-26 02-30-38 PDT Valentin Ionita oh, well, that's quite funny for me. That is not part of moving dialogs, it's actually from the xml dialog itself 2020-07-26 02-04-57 PDT Valentin Ionita hey, thank you. I have just pushed recently, you're on the latest? 2020-07-26 02-14-14 PDT Valentin Ionita It will not stay that way, but I am thinking that it looks better than how it was before. And has other small advantages 2020-07-27 01-52-58 PDT Valentin Ionita Will add it now, tho 2020-07-26 02-31-50 PDT Valentin Ionita I don't know what it is, but definitely not from me 2020-07-26 02-58-57 PDT Valentin Ionita I will stick around for bugfixes, tho 2020-07-26 02-57-56 PDT Valentin Ionita yes, but there are lots of things that need fixing or improving 2020-07-26 02-44-25 PDT Valentin Ionita I know, I would like to be able to do all these features, but I work with the Gtk API and I can't actually make them work 2020-07-26 02-07-01 PDT Valentin Ionita I don't even see the menu 2020-08-02 23-37-47 PDT Valentin Ionita Can you show me the minimum size you can now collapse a dialog? 2020-08-12 22-11-58 PDT Valentin Ionita Right now my next step is removing the sidebar you are all talking about 2020-07-26 02-13-23 PDT Valentin Ionita I am trying now to make it theme agnostic 2020-07-31 08-54-14 PDT Valentin Ionita Probably, write on dev. I don't know 2020-08-12 06-46-22 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=6Y4cr224oLTGi6M6E) size increasing automatically is something you need to give up for snapping to 0 size and scrolling. You can only have one () 2020-07-27 02-45-13 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=LnmHM3yf7facbKjMx) 3) that's literally from the theme used. I know that a lot of themes look like that, but I don't have a theme-agnostic solution yet () 2020-07-26 02-46-56 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=xgHJNh8K662SzLouZ) this could be a feature. () 2020-07-26 02-18-42 PDT Valentin Ionita afaik, they shouldn't be resizable under a width 2020-07-26 02-05-30 PDT Valentin Ionita For example: open the layers and objects panels 2020-08-12 09-35-40 PDT Valentin Ionita ... this was obviously not something that is documented. 2020-07-26 02-55-54 PDT Valentin Ionita I already reimpllemented Gtk::Paned completely, and Gtk::Expander partially 2020-08-12 07-24-49 PDT Valentin Ionita no, it doesn't. that's what I'm saying 2020-08-02 23-32-26 PDT Valentin Ionita ok, thank you, I couldn't figure it out. Windows 2020-08-02 23-28-38 PDT Valentin Ionita 2. is actually bug 2 3. is actually not implemented. It's feature 3, I guess 2020-07-26 02-18-21 PDT Valentin Ionita can you make a ss for me? 2020-08-13 02-14-50 PDT Valentin Ionita PS, I rebased. 2020-07-26 10-04-58 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=NkFjCJTXTGRcihL2Y) This can't be solved, at least like you said. Interacting with a window in any way connects the dialogs to it. I have other ideas, but unless I get a code review on desktop and window management, I won't focus on it at all. () 2020-08-12 07-23-42 PDT Valentin Ionita You must understand that I have made a number of compromises until here, guided by the group. If I need to change something majorly now, even if I will do it or not, I will not be pleased about it 2020-08-13 02-33-14 PDT Valentin Ionita I have had my own problems trying to apply a similar pattern in other cases. I'm not sure if I can do it, somebody else will. I'll backlog it for now 2020-08-12 06-50-43 PDT Valentin Ionita a recording would help me understand 2020-04-05 09-21-36 PDT Valentin Ionita No need for you to worry right now. 2020-08-02 23-38-10 PDT Valentin Ionita I want to check if I can cross bugs 22 and 23 2020-07-26 02-23-36 PDT Valentin Ionita Thank you for your feedback. 2020-08-02 22-28-55 PDT Valentin Ionita And your help. Especially your help 2020-07-26 03-27-38 PDT Valentin Ionita I honestly don't know. What is an instance, for you? If it's one time running Inkscape, what if I want two Inkscape windows and each with its own fill&stroke 2020-07-26 02-24-53 PDT Valentin Ionita But you can resize it, right? 2020-08-13 02-26-25 PDT Valentin Ionita I am sure it will. It's a compromise... 2020-07-26 03-04-40 PDT Valentin Ionita totally functional independent window, right? :laughing: 2020-07-26 10-10-52 PDT Valentin Ionita Thanks, you're so forward thinking 2020-08-12 06-45-42 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=br7PYKFTuHbfnuAAK) I know of it, not necessarily my fault. It's just a bit of how Tav's and my code interact. Not critical () 2020-07-26 02-23-26 PDT Valentin Ionita yep. Will give it a thought. 2020-07-27 01-56-31 PDT Valentin Ionita Actually my initial plan/timeline included "polishing" week/weeks 2020-08-02 22-28-45 PDT Valentin Ionita I appreciate your message 2020-07-26 02-52-03 PDT Valentin Ionita yes, I think it is. However, using debug windows (in ubuntu), I can see that there is a way of keeping them in front. I wonder what that is ... 2020-08-13 02-21-31 PDT Valentin Ionita With that I agree completely. 2020-04-05 09-20-42 PDT Valentin Ionita Currently, when I don't format the pattern file properly, on my end it crashes formidably. But I'll take my time testing. Thank you for the heads up 2020-07-27 02-54-00 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=nQCCnGmPSptCtz7Tu) If I did, i am unaware of it. I really don't think so. () 2020-07-26 02-26-13 PDT Valentin Ionita yep 2020-07-26 02-58-30 PDT Valentin Ionita That's a good thing. I'm glad 2020-08-12 07-22-52 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=P4vuKgaG2GzZ6oYg7) please write this on the dev channel () 2020-08-12 09-20-17 PDT Valentin Ionita Related to your question about popping a dialog by dragging the tab, the lines that interest you are in the following function (and potentially the one above it, tho I doubt it) https://gitlab.com/vanntile/inkscape/-/blob/docking-system-copy/src/ui/dial… 2020-04-05 09-24-03 PDT Valentin Ionita Oh, well, our issues are migrated to gitlab, but I will find the according request 2020-04-05 09-27-20 PDT Valentin Ionita No it couldn't as far as I know. The paint server is not loaded :( 2020-07-27 00-52-19 PDT Valentin Ionita Right now I'm working on a fix for scrolling when a dialog notebook is collapsed 2020-07-26 02-31-59 PDT Valentin Ionita I guess you can drag objects there???? 2020-07-27 01-48-32 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=Ewyk4P53BuosvmjCb) Wow, this is so unexpected. I will add to the list of known issues, because I have no idea why it's happening. () 2020-07-26 02-54-26 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=ttcBgb2eL43nQyiqa) not possible, believe me. I would need to reimplement the whole notebook widget from scratch () 2020-07-26 02-48-47 PDT Valentin Ionita And I don't think I will 2020-07-26 02-54-31 PDT Valentin Ionita And i just don't know how 2020-07-26 02-43-21 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=FdfJzMysT3zuXoC74) This works on Wayland, and not on X11. Know we know it doesn't work on Windows () 2020-08-13 02-19-27 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=TrYP4abYC7Pi33Wdb) right now, no. I will give links to the ux team for testing as soon as the windows pipeline finishes () 2020-07-26 06-30-28 PDT Valentin Ionita Hello, again. Don't want to abuse your time, just wanted to let you know I have already fixed a few things (look at the list here: https://gitlab.com/vanntile/inkscape-gsoc-2020/-/blob/master/TODO.md) 2020-08-02 23-21-18 PDT Valentin Ionita Look, they are not "collapsing" anymore. It's just that you can resize them 2020-04-05 09-56-46 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=fkE6Gm8QKELCKcztx) I will certainly add it to my list of functionalities to be implemented. Right now it's just a private backlog () 2020-04-05 09-22-04 PDT Valentin Ionita Yes, I will try to document the small number of features it has. 2020-07-26 02-47-00 PDT Valentin Ionita these things compound 2020-07-26 02-59-01 PDT Valentin Ionita Occasionally 2020-08-13 01-24-27 PDT Valentin Ionita try my latest commit. I did a patch hoping it will fix your problem 2020-04-05 09-55-03 PDT Valentin Ionita So problem solved on your end? I really don't know how your version didn't crash. I had an operation which was dependent on the title tag 2020-07-26 02-05-18 PDT Valentin Ionita if so, you could try to focus on trying expanding and minimizing dialogs. 2020-07-26 02-25-40 PDT Valentin Ionita That's a size allocation algorithm written by me running in the background. I build it on previous specs, which are not totally user-friendly. I will deffer this task until I fix other bugs 2020-04-05 09-51-05 PDT Valentin Ionita Ok, so I have tested a bit and now I am ready for a round of questions and answers. But first, let me tell you how it works on my end. The .svg file you provided makes my Inkscape crash when I put it into the paint folder. However, if I add a *title* tag, it runs and add a new page to the paint servers dialog with the title used. Now, what are you precisely doing? 2020-08-02 23-22-15 PDT Valentin Ionita Now we are a bit biased, because we have experienced "collapsing". But for someone who can only resize the notebooks, it shouldn't be that obtrusive that there is scrolling 2020-07-26 02-22-50 PDT Valentin Ionita I will try to do something, but that thing in blender is quite complex (Sorry, I don't feel as powerful with Gtk as I feel with web technologies) 2020-07-27 02-47-11 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=pKBbhWdEKkmd5jbX5) I really don't understand how the things work. I will ask at the next gsoc meeting () 2020-07-26 03-03-01 PDT Valentin Ionita Well, it make sense. I have never tried using them. 2020-08-12 11-38-51 PDT Valentin Ionita Nevermind, I haven't seen this link you sent me when I wrote that 2020-07-26 02-05-45 PDT Valentin Ionita and the reconfigure, and use the arrow to make them smaller and larger 2020-08-13 02-22-12 PDT Valentin Ionita It is not my best work (from "what you can see"), because I was restricted and hit in the guts so many times by Gtk, but i tried to make it my best work from the code point of view. 2020-07-26 02-58-44 PDT Valentin Ionita 4-5 weeks 2020-07-27 02-51-05 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=2ZGP4uzjpsJd8iZGX) Oh, I guess it receives the keyboard events. Obviously. I'll have to ask how to send them to the main window or ... () 2020-08-02 23-31-08 PDT Valentin Ionita oh, cool 2020-07-27 02-47-46 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=25PiwtqSHyGrxvXka) No idea, but will add it to the list () 2020-07-26 02-07-07 PDT Valentin Ionita Is that even possible? 2020-08-12 06-49-22 PDT Valentin Ionita I see it's a cross-platform bug, now that I am aware of it, will check it 2020-07-27 02-43-27 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=LnmHM3yf7facbKjMx) 1) and it won't be for a while. It needs to stay a stable feature. The strings are already tagged for translation, afaik () 2020-08-13 00-22-49 PDT Valentin Ionita Put it on public. I'll comment there 2020-07-26 02-08-27 PDT Valentin Ionita oh, wow 2020-07-26 02-18-47 PDT Valentin Ionita it might be a bug 2020-07-26 03-13-43 PDT Valentin Ionita how did you reproduce that. I couldn't find a pattern for it. I did it twice 2020-07-27 01-39-09 PDT Valentin Ionita Can I abuse you a bit and ask you to test right now? I have fixed three things and I think you're gonna like them: 1. a collapsed dialog notebook doesn't scroll anymore 2. a floating dialog stays above the Inkscape window (works on X11) 3. Dialog notebooks are scrollable horizontally and they can be snapped until the edge, so you get the most out of your space 2020-04-05 09-57-22 PDT Valentin Ionita It's still an incomplete feature. However, even incomplete, I see how it could be useful to people 2020-07-27 00-52-35 PDT Valentin Ionita It works, but it still has an animation, somehow 2020-07-26 03-40-04 PDT Valentin Ionita Removing the signals would be ideal (I did it in a couple of them). As an example, there is the Prototype Dialog. 2020-07-27 01-51-50 PDT Valentin Ionita wait, do you mean it doesn't expand for you when it's collapsed and clicking a tab? 2020-07-26 02-08-13 PDT Valentin Ionita Honestly, I just don't think it compiled right 2020-07-26 02-13-42 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=GSMwo5zFjRkve4Fkj) right now, yes, because I don't know how to remove that behavior. Yet () 2020-07-26 03-07-35 PDT Valentin Ionita Can you record it? 2020-07-26 03-17-27 PDT Valentin Ionita whaaaat? strange 2020-08-02 23-20-41 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=nCagaPrzQCk5vSzih) you're right () 2020-04-05 09-56-16 PDT Valentin Ionita I will take my time in the next couple of days to do that. 2020-07-26 02-52-25 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=CFAJ3dtvZgjtPzyRC) well, scrolling would clash with this. definitely () 2020-08-13 03-37-18 PDT Valentin Ionita And thank you a lot for the thorough testing until now. 2020-07-26 06-30-58 PDT Valentin Ionita The code is on my latest pipeline, as always. https://gitlab.com/vanntile/inkscape/-/pipelines/170877664 2020-07-26 03-39-30 PDT Valentin Ionita The whole purpose of this way of writing dialogs I have done is not having signale that track the desktop at all. Because all dialogs get updated (a callback) whenever the document changes, the active window changes or the selection changes. 2020-08-02 23-39-09 PDT Valentin Ionita They look sensible, I think I can cross them 2020-07-26 02-32-07 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=fqga8mcLx6vwhfXDw) me neither () 2020-08-12 22-08-14 PDT Valentin Ionita Hey, I am fixing the bugs from last night. I have already fixed the first two and now I'm trying to understand what you did with the windows things to make it work... partially 2020-07-27 01-54-47 PDT Valentin Ionita thanks, I was stressed out by what you said and it motivated me 2020-07-26 03-05-16 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=yWFXvy5P6A9hxjaGe) this seems normal to me () 2020-07-27 02-55-32 PDT Valentin Ionita Because I only tried to make them like that when collapsed 2020-08-02 22-28-27 PDT Valentin Ionita I just want to make things work. I am sad when I am unable to. 2020-07-27 00-08-40 PDT Valentin Ionita Taking your feedback from yesterday into consideration I worked all morning and fixed how closing InkscapeWindows works. Now, if you have floating dialogs and multiple Inkscape windows, if the floating dialogs are attached to the windows you are trying to close, they will focus on another InkscapeWindow, if it exist. If there is only one, then they will close also. I think this is the best state of the micro-feature, I don't plan on changing it again. 2020-07-26 02-43-50 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=t8p7xjK62JhYDdFxr) same kind of argument as above () 2020-08-02 23-20-15 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=mc25kbm5rNR4RnTDE) God, it's so annoying. It doesn't always happen to jump down and when I am doing changes and test, it doesn't immediately show and I think I solved it.... () 2020-07-27 02-45-43 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=662TtwDhQpN4AQ6Z9) That is a mistake that I will have to correct. Thanks, will add it to the list () 2020-08-13 02-18-53 PDT Valentin Ionita save god 2020-07-26 03-41-38 PDT Valentin Ionita Also, removing signals would help the app itself. 2020-08-02 22-27-24 PDT Valentin Ionita Thank you so much :pray: 2020-07-27 01-53-20 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=aHKYfDLeCnJPnBcL9) oh, got it, will try to find out a way to fix it () 2020-07-26 02-06-09 PDT Valentin Ionita (It worked perfectly on my theme, but I guess I need to make them independent) 2020-07-26 10-06-31 PDT Valentin Ionita Sure, will have a list of those, then 2020-07-27 01-56-05 PDT Valentin Ionita I like to work fast :) 2020-07-26 10-07-30 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=T9TWNFdXejmbsfapr) Definitely from Tav (as he has been the main driver since the beginning. We worked together last year also, so we're familiar with each other). For the others, more recently I had enough help. At the beginning, not so much () 2020-08-12 06-51-09 PDT Valentin Ionita These two bugs 2020-08-12 07-29-07 PDT Valentin Ionita This is so close to me being finished with it, and if there are major problems, talk aloud and stop the merge. 2020-07-27 02-44-16 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=LnmHM3yf7facbKjMx) 2) just like in the menu, I haven't done a mistake, just that I want to keep things uniform. If many people complain, I'll ask for a solution () 2020-08-13 02-18-55 PDT Valentin Ionita at last 2020-07-27 01-52-06 PDT Valentin Ionita for the moment 2020-04-05 09-19-14 PDT Valentin Ionita thanks :smile: 2020-07-26 02-14-32 PDT Valentin Ionita ok, this I didn't know. will note down 2020-08-12 06-50-59 PDT Valentin Ionita Also, could you please mention the bugs on the dev channel? 2020-07-26 03-38-28 PDT Valentin Ionita I actually haven't customised every dialog to work with the new DialogBase. I only barely changed some of them, for them to work as they were before. 2020-08-02 22-29-34 PDT Valentin Ionita Actually, right now I have an idea of how to fix an UX bug. gonna get to work. will read your feedback in a couple of hours 2020-07-26 03-05-08 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=wPCWmkDcaaLLMoTeb) this is problematic () 2020-08-13 00-18-29 PDT Valentin Ionita Yeah, I had a logic mistake. It still has some header rendering issues, but I am definite that those are above my possibilites 2020-04-05 09-54-06 PDT Valentin Ionita you're on the latest build of Inkscape, aren't you? Can you tell me what Help > About Inkscape says? 2020-08-12 09-36-26 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=ND2fbJdk2QiusLFCb) None that I could think of. I would have chosen a single signal instead of two, if there was an alternative () 2020-08-13 02-18-28 PDT Valentin Ionita That's the date of the creation of the first commit form the squashed commits 2020-08-12 06-47-58 PDT Valentin Ionita thanks 2020-08-13 02-20-07 PDT Valentin Ionita THANK you 2020-07-26 02-19-45 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=6xynWWHPkeCGK3XgD) I know, I did too () 2020-07-26 02-13-01 PDT Valentin Ionita yes, I know, I haven't considered that different themes have different heights :cold_sweat: 2020-07-26 02-08-34 PDT Valentin Ionita That's going to be a problem 2020-08-12 06-46-46 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=c7uS9uxsu9pfhvyJk) This sounds like an issue, can you show me? () 2020-04-05 09-58-24 PDT Valentin Ionita Ok, thank you for the feedback, have a great evening/night/day 2020-08-13 03-37-33 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=tkASpikw9y8trirJG) I'm always on my laptop 😅 () 2020-07-26 02-31-15 PDT Valentin Ionita you are trying to put a dialog in itself. and it doesn't work. as it should 2020-07-26 02-06-51 PDT Valentin Ionita from the menu. I have no clue why it looks like that on your machine 2020-07-26 03-42-31 PDT Valentin Ionita And my way of writing things has simplified a lot of things, and when the actions would be ready to replace verbs, it would be fairly easy to replace them. (Right now, I can't use actions for the dialogs, I still need verbs) 2020-08-13 01-38-10 PDT Valentin Ionita could you show me? I just can't reproduce it on my machine 2020-07-27 00-51-56 PDT Valentin Ionita Great 2020-08-12 06-45-13 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=wZa5Sf7RBsDb9Y3Xs) this is totally from Gtk, it's so unreliable. I have a solution for X11, one for Wayland, and apparently Windows would need that too. But I am unable to code that, for obvious reasons. () 2020-07-26 02-48-18 PDT Valentin Ionita No, just this rotated, for now 2020-07-27 01-52-54 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=W6SpHwqghScbp5Fji) don't even know how to call it :cold_sweat: () 2020-07-26 02-05-53 PDT Valentin Ionita I already know of some bugs myself 2020-07-26 02-08-22 PDT Valentin Ionita units is still on the repo 2020-07-26 02-50-04 PDT Valentin Ionita I thought of that, but the initial specs were different. So I kept it like this for now 2020-08-13 02-18-05 PDT Valentin Ionita It's a result of how squash rebasses work. Believe me, it's a good one 2020-07-27 01-48-51 PDT Valentin Ionita Also, the scrollbar shouldn't appear but you should be able to scroll if it's under it's minimum size 2020-08-02 22-26-52 PDT Valentin Ionita Hello, I have made some major modifications to the dialogs. When you have time, can you check if the following bugs (from my TODO list) are still active or finished? - Bug 16 - Bug 17 - Bug 20 - Bug 22 - Bug 23 I have removed "collapsing/expanding" a dialog, so the following bugs shouldn't be "realistic" anymore: - Bug 4 - Bug 5 - Bug 8 - Bug 19 2020-07-27 01-54-13 PDT Valentin Ionita Yeah, you're right, just wondering how to unselect tabs :shrug: 2020-07-26 02-08-47 PDT Valentin Ionita I'll note it down. this is helpful, thank you 2020-08-13 03-37-07 PDT Valentin Ionita No worries. Relax. 2020-07-26 02-15-59 PDT Valentin Ionita Thank you. I am glad 2020-07-26 10-10-31 PDT Valentin Ionita 😅 2020-08-12 09-36-03 PDT Valentin Ionita I am not an expert in gtk, I don't know if anyone know anything about this 2020-07-27 01-49-42 PDT Valentin Ionita I haven't tested those and I don't know how they connect to events or even if I have control over it 2020-07-26 02-16-21 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=YgYLnBYn4XaKKx3EJ) This came up with Tav's original mock, and I kept it around :smile: () 2020-07-27 01-52-03 PDT Valentin Ionita I'll add that as a windows bug 2020-08-12 07-28-27 PDT Valentin Ionita Could you please write this all on the public channel? 2020-04-05 09-55-35 PDT Valentin Ionita That sounds great. That means that documentation is needed 2020-07-26 03-09-38 PDT Valentin Ionita Ok, will wait until later and then note everything you said 2020-07-26 10-03-16 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=QpnynfP934iFj7T3m) If you will think for it for a while you will realise there is not actual solution to this () 2020-08-12 22-11-11 PDT Valentin Ionita well, I need to check if there is any crash on wayland currently first 2020-08-13 02-14-39 PDT Valentin Ionita I hate to be so annoying, but whenever you can, a new commit is available. 2020-07-26 02-19-36 PDT Valentin Ionita I am advancing slowly and brewing similar ideas in my head 2020-07-26 03-01-51 PDT Valentin Ionita No, in the demo I have implemented saving, but I haven't had the chance integrating it yet. 2020-07-27 02-55-05 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=97mq5nvHY2mng3PtG) I didn't actually realize you can make a DialogNotebook with height 0. Will change that () 2020-07-26 02-40-51 PDT jhofinger When there are so many dialogs in a notebook that their title buttons define the notebook's min width, maybe collapse the titles automatically 2020-07-26 02-47-44 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 26, 2020 11:47 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/GxiohGZoRdeTnHuNe/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-07-26 02-55-23 PDT jhofinger oh :/ 2020-07-26 03-02-24 PDT jhofinger (currently, that leads to crashes when you do anything in the remaining dialogs) 2020-04-05 09-58-36 PDT jhofinger Have a good day! 2020-07-26 02-12-13 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 26, 2020 11:12 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/KkgooJthKv2C2LaeR/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-07-26 02-05-25 PDT jhofinger yeah 2020-08-13 01-29-41 PDT jhofinger on main window close2.txt (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/JpD5rtcNm4YoT6kc3/on%20main%20window%…) 2020-08-02 22-27-15 PDT jhofinger Cool, will test! 2020-07-26 03-09-40 PDT jhofinger For the layers dialog (something is wrong with that one), undocking it into a new window gives the window the subtitle "Dialog Window" instead of "Document 1" as for the other dialogs 2020-04-05 09-54-16 PDT jhofinger 1.1-dev (6b4d57f, 2020-04-01) 2020-08-02 23-39-23 PDT jhofinger :thumbup: 2020-07-26 02-15-44 PDT jhofinger also that if you open a dialog again it is highlighted 2020-07-26 03-01-50 PDT jhofinger oh, when you close the main window, dependent dialogs should definitely close 2020-08-12 06-50-24 PDT jhofinger if you can't reproduce, I'll record a bt 2020-07-26 03-32-49 PDT jhofinger do you disconnect the signals when a dialog is closed or hidden? there are some dialogs which cause slowdowns or crashes even without interaction 2020-07-26 02-21-45 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/ss2f1z4ncrwxqu9/2020-07-26%2011-20-32.mkv?dl=0 this is how blender does it 2020-07-27 01-52-51 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=wExsQFHSZrztEbo46) it does, but only if you click the tab that is not currently selected. () 2020-08-02 23-30-45 PDT jhofinger Anyway bug 7 seems to be fixed 2020-07-26 03-26-41 PDT jhofinger I think having a dialog opened twice in the same instance is probably an invitation for a lot of bugs 2020-04-05 09-22-45 PDT jhofinger When you're done, feel free to mark this LP request: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/183535 as fix committed :) 2020-08-12 06-44-17 PDT jhofinger - I get a console message SPDesktop::getInkscapeWindow: Failed to get window. everytime i close inkscape 2020-08-12 06-46-11 PDT jhofinger If you have two dialogs next to each other in an undocked window, dragging the right one below the left one closes the window 2020-07-26 03-20-57 PDT jhofinger this was a different way of replication 2020-08-12 22-09-37 PDT jhofinger As I said, it's not documented anywhere. 2020-07-26 03-07-04 PDT jhofinger Oh this is strange: I just reopened Inkscape and tried to open a dialog again: the text disappeared but nothing else happened. Then I minimized the window and maximized it again, and the dialog was there 2020-07-27 00-19-29 PDT jhofinger That sounds perfect. Will test 😊 2020-07-26 03-13-26 PDT jhofinger oh wow, that's weird 2020-08-12 10-39-48 PDT jhofinger It works on Windows using the wayland code and setting GDK_WIN32_USE_EXPERIMENTAL_OLE2_DND=1 2020-07-26 02-37-22 PDT jhofinger When opening new dialogs either from the menu or by keyboard, it should not be placed in a collapsed notebook 2020-08-12 07-22-20 PDT jhofinger Also, please save the size of dialogs on close, so I don't have to resize them the next time I open Inkscape 2020-07-26 02-48-40 PDT jhofinger okay :) I doubt a lot of people would miss it tbh :D 2020-04-05 09-55-09 PDT jhofinger Now I have a new list entry named "test" and I can add patterns 2020-04-05 09-56-05 PDT jhofinger Yes. But if the user doesn't provide a title, could the filename be used instead? 2020-07-26 02-31-45 PDT jhofinger turns out you can type in this area. haven't seen that before 2020-07-27 01-51-29 PDT jhofinger 2 works perfectly, also with multiple windows 2020-07-26 02-06-12 PDT jhofinger I'm not sure how to open dialogs :D 2020-08-02 23-21-28 PDT jhofinger Yes I know 2020-04-05 09-24-26 PDT jhofinger (that's how I found the bug, I did some migration work) 2020-07-26 02-52-50 PDT jhofinger (floating dialogs in Windows) 2020-07-26 03-13-29 PDT jhofinger they are all fully functional 2020-07-26 03-17-00 PDT jhofinger it's related to opening the path effect editor 2020-07-26 02-25-05 PDT jhofinger yes 2020-08-02 23-30-29 PDT jhofinger I understood bug 2 differently 2020-07-27 01-56-15 PDT jhofinger that's great :) 2020-08-12 09-20-43 PDT jhofinger ah thanks :) I will try to poke it later 2020-08-13 01-29-46 PDT jhofinger still crashes, but bt looks different 2020-04-05 09-54-09 PDT jhofinger Ah it needs to be an entire tag. now it works 2020-08-02 23-17-42 PDT jhofinger 20: I can still resize a dialog notebook to "collapsed" size. It still happens and is confusing I think (especially if the dialog that is scrolled into view has tabs as well, such as F&S, so the user wonders where the tabs are gone to) 2020-08-12 11-12-47 PDT jhofinger what do you mean by "an issue on your branch"? 2020-07-26 02-32-54 PDT jhofinger yeah, definitely not a part of 1.0. Anyway, none of your concern for now 2020-08-02 23-19-29 PDT jhofinger 4 is probably a duplicate of 20, or am I missing some nuance? 2020-08-13 02-33-26 PDT jhofinger Okay. 2020-07-26 02-19-11 PDT jhofinger no, currently they don't but it could be a good idea 2020-07-27 02-20-49 PDT jhofinger Did you change anything inside the copy/paste code? I've noticed multiple times already that sometimes the clipboard doesn't work at all (i.e. i can't copy files inside file explorer or screenshots to clipboard). It works again when I close Inkscape. I haven't found out yet what triggers it 2020-08-02 23-26-25 PDT jhofinger Just some things I noticed while testing: - if you have a big and a small dialog with some elements aligned to bottom at the top (such as Document properties and XML editor) and another notebook below you have to resize the top notebook to an unreasonable size to see the bottom-floating elements of the dialog. This is confusing to users and hard to explain (why should a dialog which isn't even active influence this at all?) - When you pop out a floating dialog, it should have its minimum size without scrollbars - When you close a floating dialog and reopen it, it should still be floating (that's how 1.0 behaves at least) 2020-08-02 22-28-42 PDT jhofinger I know that feeling. 2020-08-13 00-16-50 PDT jhofinger rendering when dragging from collapsed to non-collapsed is a lot better 2020-07-26 03-18-43 PDT jhofinger and I think it requires two documents to be open 2020-07-27 02-46-39 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=GCs5m39J2HfEumTSi) I think we follow the GNOME HIG, https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/writing-style.html defines where an ellipsis can be. I think it wasn't there in the old docking system. Probably, as soon as the ellipsis is gone, the translation subsystem picks up the name and translates it () 2020-08-12 10-44-25 PDT jhofinger https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/82 took the idea from here 2020-04-05 09-19-10 PDT jhofinger pattern.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/LpYnsHrd7cJApTkr9/pattern.svg) 2020-07-26 10-09-19 PDT jhofinger good to know :) 2020-07-26 03-01-24 PDT jhofinger I think it mainly needs polishing, basic functionality looks fine. Is the dialog arrangement already stored? 2020-07-27 01-49-12 PDT jhofinger How so, Ctrl+Scroll/Alt+Scroll? 2020-08-13 01-40-49 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xh7u9t4qh8awga/2020-08-13%2010-39-51.mkv?dl=0 2020-08-12 11-13-03 PDT jhofinger am confused 2020-08-13 02-27-19 PDT jhofinger I'm sorry, I just noticed I uploaded the wrong bt earlier 2020-08-02 23-21-00 PDT jhofinger I think it's reasonable to remove collapsing. 2020-07-27 02-21-31 PDT jhofinger I haven't noticed that on master, personally 2020-07-26 02-38-02 PDT jhofinger Collapsed notebooks should not have a selected tab; and if the user clicks on one, the notebook should automatically expand 2020-07-26 02-43-20 PDT jhofinger also, if you drag a dialog out of the docking area it would be great if it automatically spawns a new window 2020-04-05 09-26-09 PDT jhofinger Is this supposed to be supported? https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/397796 2020-07-27 01-54-29 PDT jhofinger great progress since yesterday, btw :) 2020-08-13 02-19-38 PDT jhofinger ok :) 2020-04-05 09-54-36 PDT jhofinger I added test to the root svg element 2020-08-13 03-36-39 PDT jhofinger fyi: I won't be home until saturday, so I can't test (compiling on my laptop takes ages) 2020-07-26 02-53-28 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=ywLGsjq6igh8tzzKW) you could only scroll the contents, not the title bar () 2020-07-26 02-57-38 PDT jhofinger overall, it feels quite intuitive and adressses a lot lof issues users had with the previous design. 2020-07-27 01-50-40 PDT jhofinger One suggestion which is not yet on your list: when a notebook is collapsed, show none of the tabs as selected. When the user clicks a tab, automatically expand the notebook. (Currently, when the notebook is collapsed, clicking just selects the tab, it's a bit confusing that you have to expand the notebook as well). 2020-07-26 09-53-13 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=EXaLdgWwPQJmXmYay) I think this one is missing on your list. Still happens to me all the time () 2020-07-26 03-04-41 PDT jhofinger and then dock it in the same window 2020-07-26 02-34-53 PDT jhofinger once again something you didn't break, but if we have more scrolling inside dialogs, we should definitely fix that numeric boxes capture the scrolling events for value changes 2020-07-27 02-54-28 PDT jhofinger ok, the next time I happen I will ask in the dev chat how to debug it 2020-08-12 06-42-11 PDT jhofinger - dragging out to a new window fails 2020-07-26 02-18-08 PDT jhofinger a bit like in blender 2020-08-12 07-24-26 PDT jhofinger Yes of course. The decision which part of my feedback you decide to implement lies with you. 2020-07-27 01-47-01 PDT jhofinger 1 looks good 2020-07-26 09-58-16 PDT jhofinger instead of opening a closed notebook when opening a new dialog, you should try to add it to an open notebook, preferably one with similar size 2020-07-26 02-45-55 PDT jhofinger Could "Hide all tab labels" maybe be a property of the notebook, i.e. it becomes greyed out after clicking, and when I add a new dialog, the label is also hidden? 2020-07-26 02-08-18 PDT jhofinger huh only seems to happen when opening from the terminal 2020-07-26 02-35-54 PDT jhofinger I think you don't have to show a dialog's name in the hamburger menu if there is only one dialog in this notebook 2020-08-13 00-19-07 PDT jhofinger #0 0x0000000001313d67 in Inkscape::UI::Dialog::AttrDialog::setRepr(Inkscape::XML::Node*) () from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libinkscape_base.dll #1 0x000000000149abf7 in Inkscape::UI::Dialog::XmlTree::deferred_on_tree_select_row(void*) () from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libinkscape_base.dll #2 0x00000000649f7b2d in libglib-2.0-0!g_main_context_dispatch () from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libglib-2.0-0.dll #3 0x00000000649f7e88 in libglib-2.0-0!g_main_context_dispatch () from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libglib-2.0-0.dll #4 0x00000000649f80d1 in libglib-2.0-0!g_main_context_iteration () from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libglib-2.0-0.dll #5 0x000000000239429d in libgio-2.0-0!g_application_run () from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libgio-2.0-0.dll #6 0x00000000004038c2 in main () Whenever I close a floating dialog 2020-07-26 02-46-20 PDT jhofinger I spent far too much time on hackfixing the win32 theme, I feel you 2020-07-26 03-04-32 PDT jhofinger when a dialog is in a separate window, you can open it again in the main window 2020-07-26 10-09-43 PDT jhofinger whenever I should test something on Windows, just tell me - I've set up your branch as upstream and can pull whenever you like 2020-07-26 09-33-57 PDT jhofinger will check out! 2020-08-02 23-31-32 PDT jhofinger also bug 3 was user error (I think I told you), not your concern 2020-08-12 06-50-14 PDT jhofinger - If I open F&S as docked, close the notebook and reopen it with Ctrl+Shift+F, Inkscape segfaults. (Happens with other dialogs too) 2020-04-05 09-21-12 PDT jhofinger :/ 2020-08-02 23-20-08 PDT jhofinger 5: same as 20 2020-07-26 03-17-40 PDT jhofinger and it happened after i oepened path effects 2020-04-05 09-57-19 PDT jhofinger Cool! 2020-07-26 03-20-49 PDT jhofinger no idea if that helps 2020-07-26 03-04-14 PDT jhofinger haha :D 2020-07-27 02-18-00 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/zd5oi8hxyqnma2r/2020-07-27%2011-16-19.mkv?dl=0 if you have a dialog with vertical zero size, defocusing its window causes it to jump up. Sometimes scrolling inside that window is also enough 2020-07-26 03-20-44 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5ysvc7nvdu9eb6/2020-07-26%2012-20-14.mkv?dl=0 2020-07-26 02-26-08 PDT jhofinger ok :) you have to prioritize, i'm just writing whatever I notice 2020-07-27 02-02-36 PDT jhofinger "Move tab to new window" should be in the context menu of the tab, not in the hamburger menu - an entry "move notebook to window" is missing there, though 2020-07-26 02-31-35 PDT jhofinger yes, I was just wondering about the green highlight 2020-07-26 10-11-29 PDT jhofinger the docking system has annoyed me for so long, great to see some progress - if it becomes more maintainable that way, the entire project wins a lot 2020-08-13 02-27-29 PDT jhofinger anyway, fixed now, thanks ;) 2020-07-26 02-56-14 PDT jhofinger whoa that sounds like a lot 2020-08-12 07-26-42 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - August 12, 2020 4:26 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/mmQ3WdMMvEQRR5FKs/Clipboard%20-%20Aug…) 2020-08-12 09-34-30 PDT jhofinger hmm, on windows neither on_drag_fail nor on_drag_end is ever called... 2020-08-12 06-52-20 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwjwrc5pa994srp/2020-08-12%2015-51-44.mkv?dl=0 2020-07-26 02-24-40 PDT jhofinger Whenever I open the XML editor, the notebook suddenly becomes very large horizontally 2020-08-02 23-38-26 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - August 3, 2020 8:38 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/3o5HcZSmjho63GK7d/Clipboard%20-%20Aug…) 2020-07-26 02-50-23 PDT jhofinger "move notebook to new window" really would be cool 2020-08-12 06-42-26 PDT jhofinger - the context menu is great 2020-04-05 09-19-53 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - April 5, 2020 6:19 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/NmPNyscGWpPmzNc8P/Clipboard%20-%20Apr…) 2020-08-12 22-12-17 PDT jhofinger Nice :) 2020-07-26 02-51-58 PDT jhofinger revisiting scrolling: the title bar of a notebook should probably be visible all the time 2020-04-05 09-53-09 PDT jhofinger Adding a title attribute doesn't change anything. 2020-07-26 02-49-26 PDT jhofinger you could automatically close separate dock windows if they don't have a dialog inside anymode 2020-07-26 02-58-16 PDT jhofinger I haven't experienced any crashes either 2020-07-26 02-04-36 PDT jhofinger Hi, I just checked out and compiled the docking-system-copy branch from your fork. Anything I could test? :) 2020-07-31 08-49-00 PDT jhofinger failed locally as well, probably because gtkwayland.h ist not existent on Windows? 2020-07-26 03-10-32 PDT jhofinger oh it's not only layers, it just depends whether a second desktop is open 2020-07-26 02-09-47 PDT jhofinger ah nvm opened from bin and not from inkscape/bin :D i need a coffee 2020-08-02 23-21-56 PDT jhofinger also agree that 8 and 19 are not relevant anymore 2020-08-13 00-23-00 PDT jhofinger ok 2020-07-26 03-32-03 PDT jhofinger In the old docking system, a lot of crazy things were possible (such as an undocked dialog being docked in another window, and still tracking the old window, which can then be closed, but the dialog remains in the second window and interacting with it causes segfaults), but your way of automatically switching a dialog's context makes a lot more sense 2020-04-05 09-21-40 PDT jhofinger Thanks! If you find time, could you document the Paint servers dialog before 1.0? 2020-08-12 06-47-53 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0ohbrtyvyt9iht/2020-08-12%2015-47-15.mkv?dl=0 2020-07-26 02-15-36 PDT jhofinger I like it so far! especially that you can resize dialogs below their min width 2020-07-26 03-08-38 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/mxa860x5i1z5awy/2020-07-26%2012-08-05.mkv?dl=0 2020-07-26 02-42-50 PDT jhofinger it doesn't seem to remember that a dock has been in a separate window when I close that window and reopen the dialog 2020-07-26 03-07-11 PDT jhofinger this is reproducible 2020-07-27 01-46-29 PDT jhofinger For the third one: I don't see a horizontal scroll bar, but resizing below min width works. When I pull too fast, the dialogs seem to snap at a specific width 2020-08-02 22-28-05 PDT jhofinger Thank you for your hard work on this! 2020-07-27 01-05-09 PDT jhofinger I probably won't be able to help you there, but if there's something to test on Windows, just tell me 2020-07-27 01-58-10 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 27, 2020 10:58 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/GgJqYLtN2QprKYgi6/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-07-26 02-41-49 PDT jhofinger I can't seem to drop dialogs on "you can drop dropable dialogs here" 2020-07-26 02-58-35 PDT jhofinger certainly, yes; how much more time do you have for this? 2020-08-12 22-09-27 PDT jhofinger Okay :) so all I did was removing the Wayland preprocessor directive around on_drag_end (and the if condition), and strarted Inkscape with the flag I mentioned above. I have no idea if there are regressions by using this flag, esp. on older systems though. 2020-07-27 02-21-23 PDT jhofinger Also was a problem yesterday 2020-08-13 02-25-56 PDT jhofinger From a usability perspective, the horizontal resizing of dialogs probably is only a good idea if dialogs are made a lot more flexible (through Glade-ification for example). That's out of scope for you obviously. The only thing I feel anxious about in the new system is the "dialogs of different height in one scrolling notebook" issue, I guess this will catch complaints 2020-07-26 02-13-21 PDT jhofinger are you supposed to be able to scroll when collapsed? 2020-07-26 10-04-18 PDT jhofinger why? if they are all visible, show only "hide". If they are all collapsed, show only "make visible". If some are collapsed and some are not, show both. 2020-07-26 03-34-08 PDT jhofinger I really think my main pain points are: windows don't stay afloat, docking in empty docking areas and dragging a dialog out to spawn a new window. If this + saving configuration + some design fixes are done, it's pretty amazing 2020-07-26 02-50-05 PDT jhofinger also, if there is only one dialog in a separate window, "move tab to new window" doesn't really make sense 2020-08-12 06-42-04 PDT jhofinger - you should remove the "you can drop dockable dialogs here" 2020-07-26 02-53-50 PDT jhofinger (might be a lot easier said then done) 2020-07-26 03-13-21 PDT jhofinger Unbenannt.PNG (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/TDBLajdu4aoRwXEzy/Unbenannt.PNG) 2020-07-26 03-13-33 PDT jhofinger let me see if I can replicate that 2020-08-12 11-13-00 PDT jhofinger this flag is never mentioned anywhere, not even in the GTK code 2020-07-27 01-53-50 PDT jhofinger ideally, don't show any tab as selected when collapsed, since that has no meaning to the user. 2020-07-26 10-05-53 PDT jhofinger Definitely better than a crash, but imo it belongs to "known issues" 2020-07-27 02-11-53 PDT jhofinger drag & dropping dialog tabs to undefined areas doesn't work on Windows and X11 (should work on Wayland) I just noticed that the small area on top (green border when dragging something over it) still works 2020-08-13 02-17-30 PDT jhofinger Your branch shows that the last commit is an hour old (https://gitlab.com/vanntile/inkscape/-/tree/docking-system-copy), different branch? 2020-07-26 02-18-02 PDT jhofinger have you considered making the docks resizable horizontally as well? and when they are resized below a certain width, they disappear 2020-07-26 02-08-23 PDT jhofinger looks fine otherwise 2020-07-26 02-52-44 PDT jhofinger I think thomas was working on this before the 1.0 release 2020-07-27 01-59-38 PDT jhofinger Some quick fixes (hopefully): 1) the title bar of the dialogs is not translated 2) the title still has "..." behind it 3) the top (cropped) dialog ends without a border. Maybe add a bottom border to the notebook (same to the right with the new feature) 2020-07-26 02-07-22 PDT jhofinger I'm getting a ton of warnings also, units.xml is e.g. missing 2020-07-26 02-06-03 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 26, 2020 11:05 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/9qpDCJCX8ukAHdABF/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-08-02 23-22-32 PDT jhofinger Probably true. 2020-07-27 02-48-34 PDT jhofinger okay perfect. We had bug reports about a missing space in front of the ellipsis in menu entries on mac in some languages because interface guidelines differ... people _will_ notice, and they will create bug reports 2020-08-12 09-35-56 PDT jhofinger any more signals I could try? 2020-08-12 07-27-48 PDT jhofinger I think I told you this before, but in this situation, noone will notice that there are controls at the bottom of the Selects & CSS dialog (there are others like this, XML editor for example, or text). 2020-07-26 10-02-59 PDT jhofinger I think the fix for the dialogs that remain open after closing is not that simple. Imagine you have a master document with some undocked dialog, and a second inkscape window open. Now you want to close the second window. When it's focused, the dialog suddenly listens to that document, and closing it closes it as well - which the user probably didn't want (that's at least what happens currently on your branch). I'd only close the dialogs when the last instance is closed. 2020-07-26 03-17-11 PDT jhofinger at least i managed to make it happen again 2020-07-26 02-22-51 PDT jhofinger When right clicking the dock, the Layers dialog is shown as "Page 2" for me - looks like it doesn't find the title of the dialog 2020-07-26 03-04-12 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 26, 2020 12:04 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/FvDnRjdMqxCuvYkos/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-08-12 07-21-35 PDT jhofinger If the automatic resizing is blocked by scrolling, then deactivate it. We can't explain to users why only half of the dialog is visible by default. 2020-08-02 23-21-43 PDT jhofinger I just wanted to say that I understand your decision and would probably have done the same 2020-08-13 02-29-59 PDT jhofinger Is it possible that whenever a dialog is docked, you trigger a complete re-rendering of the window (like what happens when you change the window size)? I guess that could fix the locking up on Windows. As soon as I resize the window, it immediately functions again. 2020-07-26 03-28-21 PDT jhofinger I see your point. 2020-07-26 03-00-26 PDT jhofinger nice :) 2020-08-12 07-28-36 PDT jhofinger alright 2020-07-26 02-23-13 PDT jhofinger I now. For now, we could just add a horizontal scroll bar inside dialogs 2020-04-05 09-57-37 PDT jhofinger Oh definitely. 2020-07-27 02-05-13 PDT jhofinger Additional idea: closing tab with Middle mouse button click, and reopening with Ctrl+Shift+T just like in a browser 2020-07-26 09-56-34 PDT jhofinger Alternating the "Hide labels" is a step in the right direction, but now you can hide them, un-hide them one by one and the menu still says "hide labels". Maybe have both of them, but when all are visible, the "unhide" one is insensitive, and vice versa 2020-07-27 01-46-31 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/wusie0pihgfznsx/2020-07-27%2010-45-10.mkv?dl=0 2020-08-13 02-18-45 PDT jhofinger crash is fixed 2020-07-26 02-47-52 PDT jhofinger you can't do this kind of arrangement, right? 2020-07-26 02-12-16 PDT jhofinger When collapsed, it looks like this for me 2020-07-26 02-36-24 PDT jhofinger and maybe change the text to "Highlight Layers" instead of "Layers..." 2020-04-05 09-25-18 PDT jhofinger That one as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/172168 2020-07-26 10-06-27 PDT jhofinger do you feel like you get enough feedback from the advisors? 2020-07-27 01-55-48 PDT jhofinger My feeling is that some GSoC projects in the past lacked polish and left a lot of work for the maintainers. It looks like you have time to do that :) 2020-08-13 02-18-51 PDT jhofinger anything else I should test for? 2020-08-02 22-29-50 PDT jhofinger Okay 😊 2020-07-27 01-52-13 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=EXaLdgWwPQJmXmYay) that one is still missing from your list () 2020-04-05 09-19-03 PDT jhofinger Sure: 2020-07-27 02-14-06 PDT jhofinger - the shortcuts to open a new dialog don't work when a floating window is focused 2020-08-12 07-19-56 PDT jhofinger If you redock a floating dialog, close the notebook and open it again, nothing happens. If I close Inkscape afterwards, it segfaults. 2020-07-27 02-06-51 PDT jhofinger I don't know if this problem exists on Linux as well, but the floating dialog windows have the unfortunate property that focusing them unfocuses (greys out) the main window. That's a bit annoying. It's also an issue on Master, but if you have an idea how to fix that, that'd be great 2020-07-26 02-51-10 PDT jhofinger I can't seem to get a window floating above the canvas, might be another windows limitation 2020-07-27 00-51-42 PDT jhofinger The fix looks good to me. :) 2020-04-05 09-20-04 PDT jhofinger Now it looks like this in every document 2020-07-27 02-01-50 PDT jhofinger Also missing from your list, I think: you can have the same dialog twice in an undocked window (I guess nobody needs that) 2020-07-26 02-14-14 PDT jhofinger Also, when I collapse, and then immediately swich to a different tab, it scrolls down to the contents of that tab 2020-04-05 09-52-11 PDT jhofinger I placed the file (as it is) in %inkscape%/paint. When I open Inkscape, the paint servers dialog looks like in my screenshot. 2020-04-05 09-56-26 PDT jhofinger That would fix both the crash and my problem. 2020-08-12 06-44-58 PDT jhofinger if you add a second dialog into an existing floating window, it should increase the size accordingly 2020-07-26 03-32-58 PDT jhofinger like icon preview or CSS 2020-07-26 02-19-34 PDT jhofinger people often complain that the dialogs are too wide 2020-04-05 09-57-14 PDT jhofinger (And especially, patterns from this document shouldn't be displayed if they can't be used, as in my screenshot) 2020-08-13 02-18-18 PDT jhofinger ok alright, will test 2020-08-13 02-21-05 PDT jhofinger I mean, can you nitpick things? Yes, a lot. Is it an adequate replacement of the old system? Yes, and I'd argue that some things have considerably improved 2020-07-26 02-29-14 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/1gu854je2wkna8z/2020-07-26%2011-27-29.mkv?dl=0 is this supposed to happen? 2020-08-13 02-20-00 PDT jhofinger Good job! IMO it should be ready :)

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2020-04-26 08-11-45 PDT Gellért Release notes looks very good. Thanks! 2020-04-26 08-10-29 PDT Gellért Hi @Moini. I don’t think that I would be such an important contributor... but I filled out. 2020-04-26 09-55-36 PDT Moini Ha, that's what everyone thinks :) You've spent an incredible amount of time on making sure that the command line is documented properly and that tutorials look great and can be auto-created (and possibly many more things - I need to read your reply to remember ;-) ) . I think this will benefit quite a wide range of users - both beginners and experts. 2020-04-25 13-49-11 PDT Moini Hi Gellért! The Vectors team is looking for some interesting contributor stories. I know you've got some interesting bits to tell, so if you're up to it, it would help us if you could have a look at https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730

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2019-10-10 09-43-29 PDT daddy can you help me 2019-10-10 09-40-38 PDT daddy hi 2019-10-10 09-44-21 PDT Patrick Please ask general questions in #inkscape_user and allow some time to give others the chance to read and answer the question. Make sure to formulate your question well and give sufficient info - this will increase the probability of people being able to help you. You should avoid contacting users directly as this is usually perceived as being rude (unless you have a good reason to contact a specific person directly).

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 11 Messages, 0 Files, 783706 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: ryangorley & ScislaC
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 30 Apr '21

30 Apr '21

2019-11-01 11-18-50 PDT Ryan Gorley Hmm :thinking: 2019-11-01 11-15-18 PDT Ryan Gorley How, how's it going? Need some help with socallinuxep? 2019-11-01 11-19-02 PDT Ryan Gorley What are your thoughts so far? 2019-11-01 11-16-00 PDT Ryan Gorley Same. Feels like I'm juggling while drowning. :) 2019-11-01 11-56-08 PDT Ryan Gorley Let me think about this. (Sorry, I'm seriously multitasking at the moment lol) 2019-11-01 11-17-48 PDT ScislaC So, honestly, I think that the big thing with SCALE atm is, I need to nail down a "theme". 2019-11-01 11-15-33 PDT ScislaC Always :) 2019-11-01 11-16-15 PDT ScislaC Oof, apt description. 2019-11-01 11-22-27 PDT ScislaC In a handful of past years I went with things tied to the number. This will be 18... pretty much the only thing I could think of was adulthood, or something along those lines... which seems kind of lame. Do you have any ideas? Any current sources of inspiration? 2019-11-01 11-57-54 PDT ScislaC Sounds good by me. (UGH! I am so with you. I am concurrent trying to track 4 realtime conversations while trying to do other stuff) 2019-11-01 11-15-47 PDT ScislaC It's going well (but busy), how about with you?

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 29 Messages, 1 Files, 176103 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: anonym_i_ous & mikekov
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 30 Apr '21

30 Apr '21

2020-12-27 08-59-57 PST anonym_i_ous what are its benefits 2020-12-27 09-22-07 PST anonym_i_ous thanks for confirmation and quick replies (: 2020-12-27 08-58-42 PST anonym_i_ous [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=CeDZLYYzfpfHeYwqY) () 2020-12-27 09-25-46 PST anonym_i_ous yeah, lack of asset manager. 2020-12-27 09-21-55 PST anonym_i_ous anyways, that can be addressed later. i just wanted to confirm that this IS indeed an issue or if u thought about this. 2020-12-27 09-02-06 PST anonym_i_ous yeah, right. but an object will still have to be selected for the list to fetch the gradients right? 2020-12-27 09-03-56 PST anonym_i_ous unz5zVVWC1.mp4 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/KedxAgW8Wydu4otqx/unz5zVVWC1.mp4) 2020-12-27 09-02-33 PST anonym_i_ous {that's the current behaviour} 2020-12-27 09-32-20 PST anonym_i_ous https://gitlab.com/inkscape/ux/-/issues/23 2020-12-27 09-21-29 PST anonym_i_ous yeah 2020-12-27 09-04-02 PST anonym_i_ous video of current behaviour: 2020-12-27 09-26-50 PST anonym_i_ous { sorry for editing messages again and again :sweat_smile: } 2020-12-27 08-58-02 PST anonym_i_ous [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=fMhc6w83XAR9yWYov) () 2020-12-27 08-59-45 PST anonym_i_ous i have some questions regarding this F&S dialog's proposal 2021-01-03 01-21-44 PST anonym_i_ous hello there 2020-12-27 08-57-54 PST anonym_i_ous hlo 2020-12-27 09-04-19 PST anonym_i_ous how about the gradient list shown all the time? update: no, as far as i can see, it would require significant changes in the f&S dialog 2020-12-27 08-59-15 PST anonym_i_ous sorry to dm, i didnt want to poke my nose in ongoing talk in team ux. so, asking here if u dont mind 2021-01-03 02-01-32 PST anonym_i_ous [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=ozgk2QqgRTzQZHFh5)[ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=DR8Zi6GGmpCvFN7wa)any tips from ur side?? () 2020-12-27 09-08-29 PST anonym_i_ous yeah, that can ofc be checked in xml editor, but can its editing be triggered from there? (dont know, really asking) 2020-12-27 09-26-28 PST anonym_i_ous hopefully the object dialog redesign can address that. i am guessing that it is taking inspiration from blender software's outliner panel - it is awesome in that context. 2020-12-27 08-59-34 PST Mike Kowalski Sure... 2020-12-27 09-26-43 PST Mike Kowalski Oh, I see. 2020-12-27 09-24-26 PST Mike Kowalski I think issue is a little bit bigger than just gradients. There are many definitions in XML doc and we only (?) show them in XML editor. And yet we have a command to blow away unused defs (clean up document), but no way of showing what's available/gone. 2021-01-03 07-31-25 PST Mike Kowalski Hello. I think I'm good. If anything, there are too many ideas floating, so it's hard to see what should be included in the end. I use existing widgets from Inkscape for the most part. Only gradient with stops is missing today, but I already saw examples posted in UX channel. 2020-12-27 09-01-21 PST Mike Kowalski The problem we are facing today is that we cannot edit a chosen gradient from this list without actually assigning it to current object. I thought those buttons would not change selection. 2020-12-27 09-15-21 PST Mike Kowalski It could be, potentially. The question is where and do we really want it. It is useful to see them. I just don't know if we could justify having yet another dialog. 2020-12-27 09-04-43 PST Mike Kowalski Ha! That is something I didn't think about... How important would it be to see this list on its own? If need be I check gradient defs in XML editor.... 2020-12-27 09-28-03 PST Mike Kowalski Are there plans to enhance object dialog? It doesn't show assets currently.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 1125 Messages, 7 Files, 1372459 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: Moini & bryce
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 30 Apr '21

30 Apr '21

2019-06-17 15-20-10 PDT Bryce Harrington it's the town that The Goonies was filmed in (there's even a Goonies museum in the old town jail), and Kindergarten Cop, among others. 2018-12-23 16-04-04 PST Bryce Harrington yeah, community management is an odd thing to look for jobs for, but that's what I love doing the most 2020-03-08 21-37-01 PDT Bryce Harrington jan and feb are up, I don't have log for march. https://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/ 2019-06-17 15-24-23 PDT Bryce Harrington so instead we decided we'll have a deer park instead of a garden. Less maintenance. ;-) 2019-12-03 12-19-46 PST Bryce Harrington again it makes me wonder if what he is really concerned about is something else 2018-10-11 18-43-10 PDT Bryce Harrington except for my mom... but I hope the Dr's can help her some 2020-04-11 13-31-03 PDT Bryce Harrington oh, totally unrelated, I have just been trying to filter emails down a bit better 2019-02-05 17-00-04 PST Bryce Harrington looking 2019-11-17 18-39-39 PST Bryce Harrington oh sorry was in reply to needing better spam control a couple weeks ago 2019-01-30 16-53-49 PST Bryce Harrington I opened a bug in the legal group about the digital fashion pro issue. https://gitlab.com/inkscape-board/legal/branding/issues/3 I've added you to the legal group so you should be able to view it, let me know if not. The lawyer that had been handling it was Denver Gingerich, and he's still listed as being part of SFC, so I've added him to the group. Hopefully he'll notice and can chime in about status. 2020-07-26 00-49-47 PDT Bryce Harrington https://www.facebook.com/bryce.harrington.39/posts/10221917621266150 2018-10-11 18-28-45 PDT Bryce Harrington yes 2019-04-02 13-26-34 PDT Bryce Harrington no, they kept some of the more hard core EFL guys but let the rest go. Even the kernel developers they had (which are hard to obtain) were let go 2019-01-15 14-28-45 PST Bryce Harrington not sure what to do next... there's no link from the upload page anywhere. I'm guessing maybe it should show up in the Resource dropdown on the release administrative page? 2019-02-05 09-56-16 PST Bryce Harrington hah 2019-06-17 15-51-59 PDT Bryce Harrington zoë and I are looking at the photos now :-) 2018-12-03 13-59-19 PST Bryce Harrington Hi Moini, sorry I've not been very around, I'm spending lots of time on my mom these days. She's been declining rapidly, there's a lot needing taken care of. It's rather sad. 2018-11-17 13-17-44 PST Bryce Harrington I'm going to try and stay involved with Inkscape through this, but I may get a bit more detached than normal, so wanted to let you know why 2019-10-18 18-10-57 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah they're really bad at replying to email, best to catch them on irc 2019-10-18 18-06-13 PDT Bryce Harrington I think I got what he was trying to say, but that kind of rubbed me the wrong way 2018-11-17 13-46-07 PST Bryce Harrington we're trying to shift Wacom's stance worldwide, so translation of materials and working with the international Inkscape community could be very advantageous 2018-11-17 13-39-39 PST Bryce Harrington thanks 2018-12-03 14-23-21 PST Bryce Harrington :-) 2018-10-11 18-24-32 PDT Bryce Harrington they've been trying to get us to settle 2019-12-03 11-32-32 PST Bryce Harrington he's just picking at me constantly 2019-12-03 11-37-24 PST Bryce Harrington and I think even just moderator isn't enough, I think you found you had to be list owner 2019-06-17 15-04-48 PDT Bryce Harrington one thing that was nice with samsung is I'd pretty much have a single project to work on in a week, here I generally am hopping among multiple projects daily. 2019-06-17 15-28-25 PDT Bryce Harrington kids are almost old enough to be put to landscaping work... ;-) 2019-02-05 19-28-00 PST Bryce Harrington night! I'm devoting the night to getting the sponsorship renewal requests out the door 2019-01-16 10-06-03 PST Bryce Harrington what was the root cause problem there? 2019-01-15 14-33-51 PST Bryce Harrington https://inkscape.org/~bryce/%E2%98%85inkscape-0924-source-package 2019-12-03 12-27-28 PST Bryce Harrington I appreciate that, although be aware what I see in my email is just "@bryce, ^" so I don't know what the item is about. I don't always have time at the moment to log into chat, and so am missing some of the flags. 2019-01-15 14-53-33 PST Bryce Harrington https://inkscape.org/~bryce/%E2%98%85inkscape-0924-source-package+0 2018-10-11 18-26-29 PDT Bryce Harrington anyway, there is going to be some PR work to do here. I need to get clarification on a couple things with Karen but will pull in Vectors to work with them on what we'll say 2019-12-03 11-34-11 PST Bryce Harrington of course, and it's been my intent to add more people as moderators 2019-01-14 17-07-46 PST Bryce Harrington hmm, how would I get a db dump? 2020-03-08 21-39-42 PDT Bryce Harrington as to me, I'm ok, enjoying the new job, although it has been keeping me super busy 2018-10-11 18-41-39 PDT Bryce Harrington the good news at least is that all these things either don't affect me directly, or are temporary 2019-06-17 09-06-12 PDT Bryce Harrington sorry, I'm getting really behind on inkscape tasks 2019-04-02 13-24-27 PDT Bryce Harrington but honestly I'm ready to move on from graphics, and the cloud tech looks really interesting. I've loved working on the Inkscape infrastructure 2018-12-08 12-37-34 PST Bryce Harrington I could be wrong though 2018-12-23 16-21-50 PST Bryce Harrington the one thing I'm not super sure about is that the workload was rather high, kind of living under a firehose. Left little mental energy for Inkscape or other personal projects. I'd need to set boundaries and make sure job expectations are clear, and better protect my freetime. 2018-11-17 13-52-19 PST Bryce Harrington this Thursday is Thanksgiving holiday here in the US, so I know a lot of people are going to be preoccupied with that this week 2019-06-17 15-45-51 PDT Bryce Harrington I also made a real corkboard (4'x8') with 3/4" thick cork I special ordered, that is up in the kids' playroom for all their school art 2019-12-03 12-28-24 PST Bryce Harrington rocketchat makes it hard to browse mentions, and the @all tags seem to get mixed in. 2019-01-12 20-43-00 PST Bryce Harrington once the releases are out the door, I'm going to send out renewal reminders. I figure having the PR from the release, spreadshirt, etc. will emphasize our activities and help sponsors see the value in continuing to sponsor us. 2019-01-15 14-47-34 PST Bryce Harrington I uploaded it a 2nd time, I think it's uploaded but I still cannot find it in the Resource dropdown 2018-12-23 16-25-19 PST Bryce Harrington but I think a more valuable use of me for them would be to focus more on bug analysis and fixing 2019-04-05 06-58-47 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks 2019-01-15 14-39-27 PST Bryce Harrington btw, here's where I had last requested some sort of command line approach http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/Re-inkscape-0-92-3pre0-source-tarball-now-… 2019-01-15 14-25-27 PST Bryce Harrington Screenshot from 2019-01-15 14-25-00.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/2BaBrjzFTmu7KDF94/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2019-04-02 13-17-59 PDT Bryce Harrington trying to get some dental work done too, before insurance changes... need a tooth extracted. :-( 2019-12-03 11-41-24 PST Bryce Harrington not as much as you'd imagine 2019-04-27 10-41-42 PDT Bryce Harrington it'll be good to return to familiar territory, and so great to be done with job hunting! 2019-09-05 09-05-10 PDT Bryce Harrington the long days are tough, but moreso than the time involved, it's very intense and high paced. Even when I have some free time I'm so spent I don't have much brain energy left. 2019-12-03 11-54-30 PST Bryce Harrington we even got SFC on the phone and got the process in the works 2019-04-02 13-23-17 PDT Bryce Harrington its tough, no one needs open source graphics software guys, it's all cloud tech now that they're looking for 2019-06-17 15-26-52 PDT Bryce Harrington or raised beds. 2019-12-03 11-52-17 PST Bryce Harrington fwiw we did talk back at the pasadena sprint. I brought up that there is a shit ton of administrative duties and workloads on me, that I was finding it hard to handle 2019-06-17 15-39-18 PDT Bryce Harrington I've got a production system set up to make a bunch more of those, but just haven't had time to get back out there 2019-03-20 22-42-57 PDT Bryce Harrington I really can't predict, it depends so much on my job situation 2018-10-11 18-29-06 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah he's working for a startup, I forget the name 2019-12-03 12-12-32 PST Bryce Harrington I don't have like secret bank account credentials or anything 2018-12-08 12-34-05 PST Bryce Harrington there's also plenty of space on alpha.inkscape.org for such things, although I know it lacks a user friendly way to upload 2019-12-03 11-41-40 PST Bryce Harrington at least, not via the admin interface. It's really poorly done 2019-05-11 14-59-40 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm really sorry I can't come to Germany for the hackfest. I'm bummed, and if you're upset with me because of it, I understand. I had hoped I could find a job compatible with working on Inkscape but failed. :-( 2019-12-03 11-37-45 PST Bryce Harrington so that is putting a lot more configurational control over things than just spam handling 2019-05-11 15-27-42 PDT Bryce Harrington I did negotiate in accepting my job, for an extra week of vacation time each year, so should be in a better position to come next year. 2018-11-17 13-51-30 PST Bryce Harrington I'm hoping we can have a team kickoff meeting within the next week or so 2019-06-17 15-35-12 PDT Bryce Harrington hah, no she's single so she gets ALL the compartments ;-) 2019-12-03 12-08-36 PST Bryce Harrington I've been having Tav and Mc run the board meetings, and let other board members run the last board vote, so that's not entirely dependent on me either now 2019-01-15 19-57-16 PST Bryce Harrington thanks, yes I sense there was a lot of frustration all around today, and blame myself... I wish we could make the releases a lot smoother. 2018-12-23 16-18-40 PST Bryce Harrington e.g. I felt responsible for every bug filed about X.org in ubuntu. That's silly. 2019-05-01 17-26-03 PDT Bryce Harrington but saw lots and lots of names I haven't seen in years so also felt like coming home 2019-12-03 12-01-31 PST Bryce Harrington well no one says that, they just file complaints about what they don't like ;-) 2019-01-28 12-32-19 PST Bryce Harrington I updated it to use the standard mileage, it gives you a bit more, I think to cover general wear and tear on the vehicle beyond just fuel 2019-06-17 15-21-48 PDT Bryce Harrington the reason it sounds like an old hotel, is because the guy that founded it was the John Jacob Astor, who made his fortune in the fur trade, then moved into New York City real estate, so probably built a bunch of hoity toity hotels. Or at least, if you build a hotel and put Astor in its name it sounds like a wealthy fur baron place 2019-04-02 13-15-12 PDT Bryce Harrington they do. They also said they're working on some tooling - "Invoicinator" and "Reimbursinator" (or something) 2019-12-03 11-58-53 PST Bryce Harrington anyway, after that it was important to me to at *least* get the mailing list transition finished 2019-12-03 12-37-49 PST Bryce Harrington well, I'm less close to that edge than before I chatted with you, so thanks :-) 2019-10-18 18-01-48 PDT Bryce Harrington I wonder what he's waiting on a reply about? He CC'd me on a question he was asking SFC about, but I didn't have any info on it 2019-06-17 15-25-16 PDT Bryce Harrington we don't get good sunlight in the backyard, and the soil in the front is heavy clay, so even without the deer we have had trouble 2019-03-25 11-24-41 PDT Bryce Harrington jbc.engelen(a)gmail.com 2019-06-17 15-27-07 PDT Bryce Harrington exactly 2019-12-03 12-04-32 PST Bryce Harrington ...I don't see how this ends up with a very good future for me with Inkscape. :-( 2019-02-05 19-25-02 PST Bryce Harrington that would be wonderful 2019-01-27 16-37-29 PST Bryce Harrington (in fact, with trademarks it's a bit different from copyright in that if you don't enforce your trademark it can be lost.) 2019-03-27 09-53-33 PDT Bryce Harrington oh, sorry 2019-12-03 12-03-27 PST Bryce Harrington honestly I can really only do a fraction of what I used to do for Inkscape, and so the delta is going to be painful for people, and they'll complain. But I feel bad about not being able to do it all so will be sensitive when those complaints come up. 2019-06-17 15-40-36 PDT Bryce Harrington :wine_glass: 2019-12-03 11-35-46 PST Bryce Harrington I don't even see why this is suddenly such a huge deal, the lists are working, the spam's annoying but it's just spam 2019-04-02 13-37-20 PDT Bryce Harrington this is one reason I've been trying to put work into recruiting sponsors, but salesman is not a skill I possess 2019-04-12 16-23-31 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks for thinking about it though. We should keep these rules in mind going forward. 2018-10-11 18-45-57 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, tomorrow 2019-02-05 14-19-22 PST Bryce Harrington btw, do you know if we've gotten feature/bug requests from glowforge users? Is there someplace I could get a list, ideally prioritized? 2019-05-11 15-01-57 PDT Bryce Harrington well, I still feel crappy about it, and I'm sorry 2019-01-16 10-05-15 PST Bryce Harrington glad to see martin is around today, good to see the fixes rolling in 2018-11-17 13-36-13 PST Bryce Harrington just so you''re aware, the wacom situation we talked about earlier is going to become public probably soon. It might require a lot of involvement. 2019-09-06 15-10-52 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm really glad Mc offered to help with the mm3 stuff, exactly what's needed. 2019-12-03 12-15-07 PST Bryce Harrington and it just ends up being extra work to manage it 2019-04-04 10-00-51 PDT Bryce Harrington no go. they went with someone else :-( 2019-02-05 09-53-04 PST Bryce Harrington I used houz(a)gmx.de, is the other one better? 2019-01-28 12-35-08 PST Bryce Harrington might be other things worth breaking out as subgroups under board, like finances and sponsorship management. Maybe fundraising too, separate from finance, but I'm less sure of that; seems to overlap with vectors quite a bit, but may belong under board since the board has the oversight for it. 2018-11-17 13-44-40 PST Bryce Harrington PR work and community wrangling mostly. 2018-10-11 18-33-20 PDT Bryce Harrington I'd like to find something in open source. I interviewed with RedHat, applied for a position at Mozilla, and am going to apply for a job I found with Creative Commons 2019-06-17 15-48-11 PDT Bryce Harrington current project is a pink bookshelf for my daughter. She "helped" with the painting 2019-04-02 13-31-52 PDT Bryce Harrington in my dream world where I could work on whatever I wanted to, I'd love to work on doing that 2019-09-30 18-55-19 PDT Bryce Harrington Heya, yeah going good, got back from Paris ok, except picked up a bug so spent last week a bit sick. Went to the doctor about it Saturday and am finally feeling back to normal today 2019-04-02 13-53-40 PDT Bryce Harrington no, could be any time 2018-12-23 16-15-04 PST Bryce Harrington Actually no; there were two reasons and they're both resolved. 2018-12-08 12-33-02 PST Bryce Harrington oh yeah 2020-07-26 14-17-13 PDT Bryce Harrington I think the media is painting the event as Portland has become a war zone, and thousands are rioting. In truth, most of the "spice" happens in a 2 block area around a particular building, and only at nighttime - noon Saturday I drove my family right down the street where the tear gas is deployed, and it was almost just an ordinary street in an ordinary city. It really strikes me as kind of a photo op for Trump's campaign, he wants to run as a "law and order" candidate so having "violent anarchists" as a running theme in the news serves his purpose. 2019-01-14 16-58-20 PST Bryce Harrington it'd be same idea as markdown -> html, just yml -> releases app 2019-06-17 15-23-53 PDT Bryce Harrington we have troubles growing a garden here where I'm at now, the deer eat everything 2019-01-14 08-56-39 PST Bryce Harrington when you get back on your computer, can you find out and let me know? I vaguely recall asking about access to that once before, but don't remember if it got set up, so maybe I ought to check that first. 2019-04-02 13-35-29 PDT Bryce Harrington but I did get some improvements to GPU acceleration landed there, and did some experimental work to learn Vulkan, which was good 2019-12-03 11-34-57 PST Bryce Harrington but now I just feel damned if I do damned if I don't, and I don't have that much time myself 2019-12-03 12-32-32 PST Bryce Harrington that was one of the problems that was breaking the system when it first rolled out. Admin requests were bouncing exponentially and exhausted system memory 2019-06-17 15-47-43 PDT Bryce Harrington some day I need to get all the photos of my projects organized and online 2019-10-18 18-02-54 PDT Bryce Harrington ok great, do you know if there was something else? 2019-01-16 09-57-58 PST Bryce Harrington https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/NEWS 2019-12-03 11-56-07 PST Bryce Harrington anyway, after I accepted the new job, I finally heard from SFC, but it was too late :-( 2019-01-15 14-34-49 PST Bryce Harrington Home › Releases › Releases › Inkscape 0.92.4 2020-07-25 01-22-50 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah most of the engagement between police and protestors is just right in front of one particular building, so its ALL localized to about 1-2 blocks of downtown. Pretty much everywhere else in the city is just fine. 2019-10-01 08-08-55 PDT Bryce Harrington yep, we didn't talk too much business, but was nice to connect with them, and get some exercise in :-) 2019-04-02 13-12-29 PDT Bryce Harrington sorry, and I wish they weren't so insanely slow with everything 2019-01-13 18-59-21 PST Bryce Harrington btw, where do the messages go currently? I only know about them when martin forwards them along. Do others have access to the incoming message queue? 2019-07-12 10-43-29 PDT Bryce Harrington I'll try and look into the mailing list issues this weekend, it's been top of my todo list but freetime's been a rare beast these day 2018-12-23 16-06-26 PST Bryce Harrington I am kind of wondering about maybe making a return to Canonical to do X stack work for ubuntu again. 2019-12-03 11-58-02 PST Bryce Harrington I feel bad -- I still think that is exactly what Inkscape needs, and am sad I'm not in a position to be able to do it 2019-01-15 14-32-59 PST Bryce Harrington I'm in the administrative interface for releases. I don't know if there is a separate entry point for the releases app 2019-03-12 09-22-22 PDT Bryce Harrington too bad we didn't put the dates to follow the conference 2019-02-05 17-11-35 PST Bryce Harrington btw, I'm also working on a new sponsorship from icons8.com at bronze level 2019-01-16 10-06-28 PST Bryce Harrington you mentioned there is still a signature problem for me? where can I find out more info on that? 2019-03-12 09-17-30 PDT Bryce Harrington 2 days + 4 conference + 1 tour day. That is indeed a long event. Using the tour day as one of the hackfest days makes a lot of sense. 2019-12-03 11-31-25 PST Bryce Harrington plus I think Ian has root access 2019-12-03 11-57-14 PST Bryce Harrington it would have only been for a year though, and contingent on massive fund raising responsibilities 2018-12-23 16-18-49 PST Bryce Harrington yep 2019-01-27 17-06-42 PST Bryce Harrington honestly with a lot of these outfits it seems to consume a lot of time and just ends up being kind of wack-a-mole work 2019-01-16 09-57-25 PST Bryce Harrington hang on, I'll find a web link to the file in the repo 2018-11-17 13-36-52 PST Bryce Harrington no, feel free to tell anyone that needs to know 2018-10-11 18-33-53 PDT Bryce Harrington CC would be ideal, sounds like they need someone to do stuff very similar to what I do for Inkscape 2018-10-11 18-24-51 PDT Bryce Harrington but I learned last night they've finally agreed to rename their product 2018-10-11 18-35-27 PDT Bryce Harrington although I did look at some roles for SpaceX and daydreamed a bit ;-) 2019-06-17 15-41-01 PDT Bryce Harrington but no, for making the frame boards and cutting corks, I have enough to make a bunch of them as gifts 2019-12-03 11-40-00 PST Bryce Harrington spamassassin might be an option; I'd asked Ian to set that up as part of the contract originally, but I don't think it's operating actually 2019-01-15 19-58-45 PST Bryce Harrington we're doing two releases in one go, which adds to the work and increases the complexity and opportunities for confusion. But we'll get through it, and releases are an important part of the project so the pain pays off in the end. 2020-03-08 21-39-46 PDT Bryce Harrington cya 2019-04-02 13-29-30 PDT Bryce Harrington there's one person, Uli, who still works on it a fair bit. I might turn over maintainership to him at some point, depending on what job comes for me 2019-04-02 13-28-29 PDT Bryce Harrington Cairo still exists as an open source project, yes 2019-12-03 11-39-00 PST Bryce Harrington the next step is the suggestion of making subscriptions require moderator approval but that's got a lot of downsides to it 2018-10-11 18-40-53 PDT Bryce Harrington and stock market crashes, and horrible US politics, yeah 2020-09-09 15-16-11 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks. Just FIY my area of Oregon is suffering from major uncontained fires and I may need to evacuate. If so, you guys may not be hearing from me for a while. 2019-12-03 11-42-15 PST Bryce Harrington I've had to run sql commands in the database itself for fixing up subscription issues 2019-04-02 13-39-13 PDT Bryce Harrington keeping my options open, but an area I'm drawn to is backend rest API design and development 2020-01-01 21-39-23 PST Bryce Harrington Btw, the framed Inkscape award arrived just fine, and is with the other Inkscape items now. Kids enjoyed seeing it. :-) 2019-01-15 14-23-05 PST Bryce Harrington ugh 2019-02-22 11-00-44 PST Bryce Harrington yeah he does seem to be ax grinding there. 2018-12-23 16-08-43 PST Bryce Harrington yeah - in fact a job not at all unlike the one I was in when I was there - https://boards.greenhouse.io/canonical/jobs/1448670 2019-12-03 12-34-14 PST Bryce Harrington ok, so if I add one or two owners they can add more mods as needed 2019-11-17 18-45-49 PST Bryce Harrington I also added you as moderator for vectors and devel, hope that's ok 2020-11-09 16-35-47 PST Bryce Harrington I don't know to be honest, I just feel like I'm being pushed out of the project. 2019-03-12 09-15-21 PDT Bryce Harrington right 2019-12-03 11-55-36 PST Bryce Harrington SFC and the board 2019-12-03 11-42-43 PST Bryce Harrington the thing is, I kind of don't trust martin 2019-12-03 12-14-56 PST Bryce Harrington I hate that we have money. It causes more problems than it solves 2018-10-11 18-50-20 PDT Bryce Harrington yep that's right 2019-04-27 10-39-32 PDT Bryce Harrington hey good news finally. 2019-07-12 10-42-22 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks for the reminder, I've really been losing track of inkscape lately 2019-12-03 11-34-33 PST Bryce Harrington but after you got upset that I added you to devel I decided I shouldn't just unilaterally add people 2019-06-17 15-33-30 PDT Bryce Harrington 100_0503.JPG (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/P4xD98b4HpAEqCwsq/100_0503.JPG) 2019-02-05 17-02-28 PST Bryce Harrington right 2019-12-04 14-27-52 PST Bryce Harrington ok thanks 2019-01-06 14-47-29 PST Bryce Harrington which documentation is that? 2019-04-05 06-52-30 PDT Bryce Harrington not great. feeling pretty discouraged 2019-01-16 09-58-56 PST Bryce Harrington it would be nice to improve that script to do the manual formatting work, I just haven't done that yet. 2019-01-15 15-00-09 PST Bryce Harrington the old key was a lower security 1024 byte key, that I have been told is insecure and not worth using for package signing these days, so I have updated to a 4096 byte key 2019-06-17 15-40-23 PDT Bryce Harrington hah :-D 2019-01-27 17-07-28 PST Bryce Harrington maybe we need to add an Inkscape Legal group to track this stuff 2020-04-11 09-57-44 PDT Bryce Harrington hi Moini, sorry I've not been responsive, between work and homeschooling the kids freetime is a distant memory ;-) You have a good Easter too. 2019-02-05 19-20-44 PST Bryce Harrington (to me too) 2019-04-02 14-01-23 PDT Bryce Harrington several of them are here in portland (we still get together regularly), so can travel together to stuff, etc. :-) 2018-10-11 18-30-24 PDT Bryce Harrington I was already working on finding a new job; things have been weird and stressful for a while, and my gut was telling me it was time to jump, so have already had a bit of interviewing done 2019-12-03 11-37-56 PST Bryce Harrington (and thus more responsibilities) 2019-12-03 12-29-48 PST Bryce Harrington anyway, regarding mailing list mod, I don't think it'll help the spam but am happy to add people, but easiest if I know specific people willing to be mods. I don't feel comfortable just blindingly adding the whole board. And I don't think it needs limited to just the board. 2018-10-11 18-22-39 PDT Bryce Harrington possibly one of the board members already mentioned it to you, but if not, we've been engaged with legal action against Wacom 2019-02-05 17-10-43 PST Bryce Harrington yeah, that is a good point. so then instead of asking for a renewal I'll ask if they'd like to be listed as bronze for a year. Sounds good 2020-07-26 14-19-11 PDT Bryce Harrington However, what I was really amazed by is Riot Ribs - it's just like an open source project, entirely run by volunteers, run bottom-up, people just show up and contribute. I really like that one of their main aims is to help the houseless population in the local neighborhood, because there is quite a few. 2019-03-12 09-23-19 PDT Bryce Harrington if we did, that would solve both these problems cleanly. 2018-12-23 16-23-28 PST Bryce Harrington yeah I'd be fine learning snap and doing snap packages 2018-12-23 16-00-44 PST Bryce Harrington it would have been a "remote" job, but would have required me to be on site 1 week per month for the first year (or relocate for 2 months). They were also looking for stronger 3D graphics skills than I have 2018-12-08 10-49-01 PST Bryce Harrington I also worry a bit when some of the things - like handling of sponsors - are project policy and procedure stuff, and if they're implemented in the website it locks those processes down. In the past I've noticed Martin will sometimes implement things differently than was agreed on, thus effectively rewriting policy as he wants, but then there's no option to change course so we just have to accept his will. It rubs me the wrong way. 2019-01-27 17-07-03 PST Bryce Harrington even with wacom it has been like this :-/ 2019-01-14 16-59-20 PST Bryce Harrington I know that's maybe not likely to happen, but who knows 2018-10-11 18-57-06 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks, sleep well :-) 2019-12-03 12-14-16 PST Bryce Harrington he'd rather be the project representative? 2019-01-27 16-40-25 PST Bryce Harrington in any case, it looks like it's been properly resolved now - they can still distribute the sw by terms of the GPL (as far as we understand it anyway), but we're not letting them use our trademarks to do so. 2019-05-11 16-01-27 PDT Bryce Harrington ttyl 2018-10-11 18-31-45 PDT Bryce Harrington no kidding 2019-10-18 18-06-27 PDT Bryce Harrington I feel badly for not having as much time as when I was between jobs 2019-12-03 12-10-16 PST Bryce Harrington well this is why I can't understand where martin's coming from with accusations like this that things are going rogue and no one has access to stuff. It's not true so what's he really getting at? 2019-01-15 14-24-18 PST Bryce Harrington Category is required but there is no option for anything like "tarball" or "software package" 2019-02-05 17-12-16 PST Bryce Harrington main challenge is that Conservancy has been 0% responsive to emails. :-/ Hoping whatever's kept them from responding resolves soon. 2019-12-03 12-33-01 PST Bryce Harrington but I think people already subbed to the lists and getting email properly should be no problem to add 2019-12-03 11-56-44 PST Bryce Harrington they'd gotten everything set up, and were ready to make an offer 2019-12-03 12-25-36 PST Bryce Harrington yeah I do feel there's unstated stuff, I appreciate when he (and others) are direct about stuff, I have so little time. The beating around the bush about stuff can feel passive aggressive sometimes, whether intended or not. 2019-12-03 12-35-04 PST Bryce Harrington ok, thanks for the chat. I really need to get back to work. 2019-05-01 18-37-38 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks :-) 2020-09-13 20-59-32 PDT Bryce Harrington Hi Moini, they were able to get the fire near us under control yesterday. It was close but we did not need to evacuate ourselves. The adjacent county to us was hit pretty hard so we have had some friends displaced, but they're starting to be able to get back home now. I think we're past the worst of things. Still can't go outside due to hazardous air though. It's like an apocalypse inside an apocalypse here in oregon. 2018-12-03 14-13-56 PST Bryce Harrington just wish I could do more to make things better for her. 2019-04-27 10-41-01 PDT Bryce Harrington it's actually a way better role for me - very similar to what I was doing maintaining X for Ubuntu, just that now I'll be maintaininng server bits like nginx, mailman3, databases, and so on 2019-06-17 15-03-09 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, especially with canonical there are lots of extra information channels to keep track of 2020-03-21 15-34-12 PDT Bryce Harrington cya, you have a good weekend too 2018-10-11 18-23-56 PDT Bryce Harrington ok, so you know of the backstory. I've been working with our lawyers and theirs to try and get them to rename 2019-04-02 13-25-48 PDT Bryce Harrington honestly I don't think Samsung quite knew how to put open source developers to good use, I felt I could have done a lot more 2018-12-08 12-29-18 PST Bryce Harrington the tools here aren't really the critical piece, it's finding someone who can handle things, like you mention. We get a person in such a role, and that's 95%. The last 5% isn't that intensive data-wise, and I do think a spreadsheet or something would be adequate 2019-12-03 11-45-47 PST Bryce Harrington I have little free time and I **really** don't want to spend what I have working with people that are going to be mad at me unreasonably 2019-02-05 18-59-54 PST Bryce Harrington I noticed, that's great :-) 2020-11-17 21-10-48 PST Bryce Harrington yeah, it's hard to be involved in the project now 2019-01-14 17-52-42 PST Bryce Harrington yes, that's my hope, I'd like to get some things moved ahead before I start a new job 2019-02-05 09-55-17 PST Bryce Harrington crossing fingers 2019-06-17 15-43-39 PDT Bryce Harrington we went to a restaurant once that had paper shopping bags full of corks sitting out in the lobby to give away, so I have a lifetime supply of corks. and my family members give me theirs 2019-01-15 14-57-33 PST Bryce Harrington I changed it recently, that may be the issue 2019-12-03 11-37-07 PST Bryce Harrington being moderator won't prevent the spam, it just lets you block people who are spamming after the fact 2019-04-02 13-22-07 PDT Bryce Harrington but I may take a break for a bit at that point and regroup. Redo the resume and so on. 2019-01-12 20-37-15 PST Bryce Harrington thanks 2018-11-17 13-38-48 PST Bryce Harrington yep 2019-04-12 16-24-10 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah this wasn't prompted by anything, I was just doing general research and noted it 2020-04-27 08-34-52 PDT Bryce Harrington hi Moini, thanks I'll take a look 2019-05-11 15-15-32 PDT Bryce Harrington ok thanks, I thought that was the case but wasn't sure. I wouldn't blame anyone for being upset with me for needing to scale things back. I feel badly about it myself. 2019-02-05 19-20-35 PST Bryce Harrington yes, that looks like the right assessment 2019-12-03 12-17-21 PST Bryce Harrington which I just paid myself, I didn't take the money out of the paypal account 2019-01-15 15-15-20 PST Bryce Harrington is that new, or was I removed? I used to be able to upload packages 2019-04-02 13-16-51 PDT Bryce Harrington man I tell you the interviewing stuff really sucks up a lot of my mental space, it's hard to keep aware of much outside my immediate circle 2019-09-05 09-05-36 PDT Bryce Harrington maybe it'll get better, but I've been telling myself that since I started. 2019-09-05 09-01-55 PDT Bryce Harrington Canonical didn't hire me because of my inkscape work, they didn't really care about that. It was due to my background with packaging on X.org and etc. 2019-12-03 11-31-57 PST Bryce Harrington I think martin is just angry with me that I'm putting in as much time as when I was laid off. Or maybe he wants control over more, so wants me out of the picture 2019-03-12 09-14-52 PDT Bryce Harrington you might see what Tav thinks 2019-06-17 16-02-44 PDT Bryce Harrington hah, gotta make sure to set up compose key Then it's Alt+"+e :-) 2020-03-21 15-18-58 PDT Bryce Harrington done. https://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/2020-03-06.log.html 2018-10-11 18-52-09 PDT Bryce Harrington the kids had a school jogathon this afternoon that I went to and watched them run 2019-10-18 18-00-32 PDT Bryce Harrington ok, just busy 2019-06-17 15-27-36 PDT Bryce Harrington we might do something, we have some ideas for terracing in the front, and if we're definitely staying here it may be worth it. 2019-03-25 11-24-54 PDT Bryce Harrington linkedin.com/in/johan-engelen-bb711110 2019-05-01 17-25-45 PDT Bryce Harrington hi :-) It was intense and overwhelming 2019-11-23 08-15-56 PST Bryce Harrington done 2019-12-03 12-05-49 PST Bryce Harrington yes, I agree, and that is what I have concluded too. Thus giving root access for Mc, and adding Scislac, you, and others list ops 2019-06-17 15-22-34 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah we drove around the residential area and there were deer all over the place, must have counted a dozen in one afternoon. And beautiful forests, fields, and rivers all around 2019-04-02 13-28-12 PDT Bryce Harrington in looking at my notes from when I had started in 2013, they had told us at the outset that the group had been green lighted for a 5-year plan, and so in hindsight that was probably no surprise it shut down 5 years later 2019-01-14 13-53-23 PST Bryce Harrington btw thank you so much for all you've been doing the last month or so, it's really helped ease my mind as I was taking care of stuff with my mom and on the job front. 2019-12-03 11-42-57 PST Bryce Harrington he does big changes and stuff without asking 2019-04-12 16-22-51 PDT Bryce Harrington @Moini I think those are probably fine as is, and since they've been up a while probably little benefit to changing them at this point anyway 2019-01-12 20-41-06 PST Bryce Harrington Yeah, I had hoped for takers on doing sponsorship management. But I can handle it for now until we find someone. Actually it probably makes sense for me to do it for a bit in order to get the process sorted out, and might help if the renewal reminders come from me. 2019-05-11 15-25-58 PDT Bryce Harrington yes it is a bit hard for me, but important. And I have enjoyed all the hackfests I've attended though. 2019-02-05 19-30-19 PST Bryce Harrington oh wow! 2019-04-02 13-33-37 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah 2019-01-15 14-21-06 PST Bryce Harrington I can't figure out how. this is frustrating 2019-01-16 10-20-15 PST Bryce Harrington thanks! 2018-10-11 18-51-48 PDT Bryce Harrington but we ate earlier 2019-12-03 11-45-06 PST Bryce Harrington "the mailing lists have gone rogue" 2019-12-03 12-30-07 PST Bryce Harrington just flag specific people for me and I'll add them. 2019-01-15 14-50-22 PST Bryce Harrington I'm not sure I'm doing this right. I click on my profile pic and it goes to my profile page. There isn't an administrative interface on that page, however there was an Administration link under my photo, which is how I got into it before. But it looks like a general purpose django administration screen, not just releases. Then I scroll down until I saw Releases and clicked on that, and there was a list of all releases, and I clicked on 0.92.4. This is how I've done it before, but it feels like I'm doing something wrong. It's a bit frustrating. 2019-06-17 15-46-30 PDT Bryce Harrington can't put my hands on the photo of it, but it takes up a whole wall 2019-10-01 08-13-58 PDT Bryce Harrington :-) 2019-04-02 13-13-13 PDT Bryce Harrington I keep racking my brain for ideas on how I could help them. They don't respond well to me nagging them about stuff, I have gotten chewed out a couple times now :-D 2019-03-12 09-07-37 PDT Bryce Harrington I recall when we set dates, there were concerns about the length of the event, so maybe people would prefer reducing it by a day? 2018-12-08 10-45-03 PST Bryce Harrington I know he means the best, but I really don't like how martin pushes to get everything implemented in the website. He does a lot of work, but he is largely the only one coding on it, and so the more going into it, the more of a single point failure it becomes. 2019-01-15 14-54-25 PST Bryce Harrington ok 2019-01-14 16-56-19 PST Bryce Harrington in my ideal world, the website release app would just suck that information in directly, so no one has to manually copy the info in at release time 2019-01-13 10-11-21 PST Bryce Harrington there's been some discussion so doubt the change would be a surprise, but you're probably right I should talk to him 2019-12-03 12-04-04 PST Bryce Harrington ...which in turn will make me want to spend less time around here, which means less done and more complaints... 2019-12-03 11-27-28 PST Bryce Harrington I can't believe martin said that, that really pisses me off 2019-06-17 15-06-59 PDT Bryce Harrington my wife's already been putting the new paycheck to work, getting us all new carpets downstairs, and talked to a siding guy this morning, and a roofer last week... 2018-10-11 18-21-08 PDT Bryce Harrington at least things are going good with Inkscape. 2019-12-03 12-17-55 PST Bryce Harrington which was fine, but I thought it'd be better to set up a non-profit to own it, and make sure it wasn't under my personal accounts 2019-01-27 16-42-41 PST Bryce Harrington I don't know enough to say whether or not this is a scam, but it certainly isn't representing our project well. That said, I'm still not 100% clear on whether this should be permitted or not, and I definitely agree in the future it would be good to do deeper research and/or have some policies to follow. 2019-01-15 14-35-33 PST Bryce Harrington do I need to wait on caching maybe? 2019-06-17 15-22-59 PDT Bryce Harrington but it's also at a commercial crossroads, with ships passing buy constantly 2020-03-08 21-38-04 PDT Bryce Harrington ftr, logs can be checked in here -- https://gitlab.com/inkscape-board/documents/-/tree/master/meetings%2Ftransc… 2019-01-27 17-06-12 PST Bryce Harrington there was a lawyer working on that, and I believe they did request they make some changes to bring it into GPL compliance, however I don't remember the current status. I do seem to recall there being additional work needed. 2018-12-08 12-36-14 PST Bryce Harrington http://agendav.org/ might be a lightweight option to look at 2019-01-06 14-48-01 PST Bryce Harrington sorry about changing the sponsors page. I reverted it back and described what to do to add contact(a)inkscape.org. Do you mind making that change, or is there another way we should coordinate it? 2018-12-21 20-12-54 PST Bryce Harrington thanks, yes was an interview, but unfortunately not the right job for me 2019-04-02 13-51-39 PDT Bryce Harrington well, I'm probably worrying for naught, I think everything is in my favor for this current position I'm waiting on word for. 2018-12-23 16-18-12 PST Bryce Harrington other things that had bothered me, in hindsight weren't that big of a deal and I could have solved those differently 2018-12-08 12-30-01 PST Bryce Harrington hah, interesting I didn't know that 2019-01-03 14-40-04 PST Bryce Harrington oh no, I got a few elbows :-/ I need to resend that 2019-02-05 19-05-51 PST Bryce Harrington oh, one thing glowforge is interested in is helping to fund MacOS devel work. I need to look up our plans there and try to establish something that can be donated to 2019-06-17 15-59-48 PDT Bryce Harrington zoe_hat.jpg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/cA4KwCFRmiEvJXFps/zoe_hat.jpg) 2019-12-03 12-06-31 PST Bryce Harrington I am trying to get ted added as root on the new backup server, but unfortunately he doesn't have ssh/gpg keys for some reason. I should re-ping him 2019-04-02 13-14-36 PDT Bryce Harrington and talked with karen over the phone with half the board 2019-12-03 11-41-04 PST Bryce Harrington I have been through the django admin in detail, there's nothing for spam control 2019-02-05 17-00-49 PST Bryce Harrington oh which one? 2018-10-11 18-21-57 PDT Bryce Harrington there was a very good piece of news on a matter we've been dealing with confidentially 2019-03-25 11-24-48 PDT Bryce Harrington johanengelen.github.io/ (Blog) 2019-12-03 11-49-55 PST Bryce Harrington well, I don't think you need to mediate, but at least let me thank you for listening, you're the one person I feel safe to share with 2019-08-29 11-35-10 PDT Bryce Harrington sure Bryce Harrington 14094 SW Tewkesbury Dr Tigard, OR 97224 2019-04-27 17-29-16 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks! 2019-04-02 13-18-49 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm really hoping I'll get an offer this week. If I don't, it's going to be back to square one and I think i'll be pretty miserable 2019-12-03 12-19-16 PST Bryce Harrington anyway, I feel like I've been a very good shepherd to these funds, and am perplexed why this would be an issue for martin 2019-01-16 09-56-53 PST Bryce Harrington the one issue I know of with it, that I didn't get fixed, is the original release notes has some .gif files embedded, that are referred to in the text, but of course those can't seen in plain text. i left the references in place but there's no images so it's a bit weird 2019-01-28 12-35-30 PST Bryce Harrington something I can bring up to discuss at next week's board meeting I suppose 2018-10-11 18-53-34 PDT Bryce Harrington they did remarkably well, my daughter did more laps than any other kids in her class, and my son did among the top 3. I never was at all athletic so this is amazing to me. Very proud of them. 2018-11-17 13-55-09 PST Bryce Harrington certainly, will do. And thanks for the chat, I'm leaving for mom's now. 2018-10-11 18-31-52 PDT Bryce Harrington it may happen though... 2019-06-17 15-12-09 PDT Bryce Harrington we've thought about moving quite a bit, rather than fixing it up. I still would love to move to Astoria, Oregon. But kids are in a good school and not really any good reason *to* move. Besides, if we do move, having all this maintenance work done should help in selling. And if we don't, then we get to enjoy the new stuff ourselves. :-) 2019-04-02 13-36-05 PDT Bryce Harrington I doubt we'd ever find a company willing to foot the entire bill for a developer, but maybe we could piece things together from several sponsors 2019-01-14 13-47-34 PST Bryce Harrington aha, thanks for investigating that 2019-12-03 12-16-59 PST Bryce Harrington I was getting so much in my paypal account that it was affecting my taxes 2019-06-17 15-59-48 PDT Bryce Harrington zoe_handstand.jpg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/MuamnWBaXp9a47X9R/zoe_handstand.jpg) 2018-12-23 16-27-47 PST Bryce Harrington definitely a risk I'm happy to take 2019-03-12 09-14-44 PDT Bryce Harrington sounds good 2019-01-16 09-58-33 PST Bryce Harrington that's the script I run 2019-01-16 10-02-55 PST Bryce Harrington we haven't fixed a specific time, so could push it to late in the day PST (like in +12 hrs) and still claim we're on schedule. 2020-03-07 23-10-29 PST Bryce Harrington I will try to look into it tomorrow 2018-11-17 13-38-36 PST Bryce Harrington he'll need help 2020-07-21 11-20-04 PDT Bryce Harrington the media seems more focused on the late night altercations and the police (over-)reactions. I don't know what shows up in international news about it, but there's some good articles and lots of photos on oregonlive.com 2018-10-11 18-25-36 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, it's definitely huge for us, and for Conservancy - they did all the heavy lifting here and covered the costs of the legal work 2018-10-11 18-28-00 PDT Bryce Harrington I'll have to find some other job to occupy me ;-) 2019-01-05 10-02-52 PST Bryce Harrington I want to change the sponsors page to direct potential sponsors to contact(a)inkscape.org. 2018-10-11 18-39-10 PDT Bryce Harrington I do too. Even the news has been full of catastrophes this week. 2019-06-17 09-05-52 PDT Bryce Harrington sure, thanks for the prompt on that, I've commented it looks good 2019-02-05 09-54-37 PST Bryce Harrington alright I'll give it a try 2018-12-08 12-27-10 PST Bryce Harrington it occurs to me we have a variety of calendar/reminder needs, so might be useful to have a proper calendar system 2019-06-17 09-07-24 PDT Bryce Harrington intended to put some inkscape time in this weekend but it was Father's Day here in the US and had my dad up for the weekend, and my kids wanted a lot of my time 2019-12-03 11-43-49 PST Bryce Harrington I am afraid once I give him access to something, I find I end up losing control over it myself 2019-12-03 11-28-13 PST Bryce Harrington he's really been making me not want to work on Inkscape lately, with comments like those 2019-04-02 13-21-39 PDT Bryce Harrington I had applications going into several companies, which I've all interviewed with, and this is the last one I'm waiting on word from. I don't have other apps in anywhere, so if I don't get it, I'm going to be starting the search over, and doing new apps to new places. 2019-12-03 11-31-20 PST Bryce Harrington but it's *not* just one person 2019-12-03 11-46-59 PST Bryce Harrington at this point I'm thinking he'd be happier if I left and he ran the project directly himself 2019-06-17 15-19-00 PDT Bryce Harrington it's a quaint seaside town at the mouth of the Columbia River. Was one of the first places settled in Oregon. Mostly I'm drawn to the weather, it's got much cooler summers than here in Portland. 2019-01-16 10-03-59 PST Bryce Harrington I seem to recall some people wouldn't be around on the 17th, so if we need to delay past the 16th we might need to postpone for +1 week, but I know a lot of things are in motion to happen today 2019-01-15 14-31-41 PST Bryce Harrington but it should show up in Resource right? I seem to remember it has been there before 2019-03-12 09-22-49 PDT Bryce Harrington I don't think anyone's made travel arrangements yet. 2019-01-16 10-01-53 PST Bryce Harrington regarding the timing of the announcement, last night it sounded like there were still a lot of blockers and I wasn't sure if we were going to do it today. I haven't caught up on status this morning (been working on a few job related personal tasks), so am waiting for guidance from you and others. 2019-01-15 14-31-22 PST Bryce Harrington well, I can't find it in the list, I've gone through it three times. Maybe I did something wrong? 2019-06-17 15-26-22 PDT Bryce Harrington when it's hard clay, it's hard for the roots to penetrate, and drainage can be a problem too 2019-01-14 17-20-53 PST Bryce Harrington I'm not sure, but I think you may be imagining a bigger scoped thing here than I am actually planning to do... My apologies, I probably should not have made mention of it and caused any confusion... 2018-11-17 13-38-14 PST Bryce Harrington I'll be having Ryan take the lead on it; I've got a phone meeting set up with him and lawyers today to work out details 2019-04-02 13-14-26 PDT Bryce Harrington yep, I met with bradly for a good 45-60 minutes, with Ryan in tow 2019-12-03 11-59-11 PST Bryce Harrington I suspect that's why I'm particularly incensed about martin's comment that it "went rogue" 2019-12-03 11-55-19 PST Bryce Harrington in the meantime I ended up getting a job offer and took it 2019-03-12 08-58-46 PDT Bryce Harrington hmm 2020-01-01 21-38-43 PST Bryce Harrington Thanks, you too! 2019-04-02 13-56-13 PDT Bryce Harrington I don't remember, there were a couple positions I applied for 2019-12-03 12-13-38 PST Bryce Harrington I have read-only access to a Subversion feed for the individual transactions in ledger, that by SFC policy and our bylaws they give only to the "project representative" 2018-12-08 12-30-14 PST Bryce Harrington but it goes to my point that person first, tools second. 2019-06-17 15-08-48 PDT Bryce Harrington i.e. cheap ass american home manufacturing 2019-06-17 16-01-47 PDT Bryce Harrington she's impressed with your creations, she thought the penguin garbage can was funny, she just got a stuffed puffin gift today 2019-10-18 17-51-34 PDT Bryce Harrington sounds good! hope you're doing well 2019-01-14 16-57-53 PST Bryce Harrington no not at all 2019-01-27 16-37-02 PST Bryce Harrington keep in mind copyright and trademark are two separate things. I also think that they probably are satisfying GPL requirements, but GPL is copyright based. The name and logo are covered under trademark law, so is a different set of rules. 2018-11-17 13-13-36 PST Bryce Harrington hi, thanks again for listening to me the other day. my mom is not doing well, she was in the E.R. yesterday and a scan revealed she has terminal lung cancer. Today we are getting hospice care set up for her. 2019-06-17 16-00-15 PDT Bryce Harrington she wanted me to send you her pictures from her dance recital yesterday 2018-10-11 18-32-38 PDT Bryce Harrington in fact google's one of the places on the list, I have a couple friends there looking for graphics related roles there, but remote work is a bit of a challenge to find with them 2019-02-05 16-55-57 PST Bryce Harrington oh sorry, nevermind then. :-) It's a laser engraver/cutter tool, that works with Inkscape. They're joining as a gold level sponsor. 2019-12-03 11-39-22 PST Bryce Harrington or switching the lists to full moderation, where every email has to be approved, also laborious 2019-01-27 16-38-42 PST Bryce Harrington IANAL and esp. not an expert on trademark law, and you probably saw my comments on the bug report that I was uncertain about the permissiveness of what they're doing. I wasn't sure what the right course of action, so mostly deferred to Pam since she *is* a lawyer and knows trademark law well. 2019-12-03 12-33-34 PST Bryce Harrington Moini, for the user list access you have, does that give you permissions to add other mods? 2019-04-27 17-18-41 PDT Bryce Harrington yes 2019-01-16 09-54-32 PST Bryce Harrington good morning 2019-12-03 11-40-26 PST Bryce Harrington even that isn't perfect, I still get spams in my home account, and I know SA is working there 2018-10-11 18-35-04 PDT Bryce Harrington hah, yeah doubt I'll ever go back to that 2019-12-03 11-55-04 PST Bryce Harrington however it drug on weeks. I actually thought they'd forgotten, but they were working on it privately 2019-02-05 19-04-44 PST Bryce Harrington I want to start using gitlab issues to shadow the RT tickets. It's getting hard for me to keep mental track of everything 2019-12-03 11-52-48 PST Bryce Harrington honestly, I was spending a good share of my Samsung work time on Inkscape stuff, and I don't think that was good for my professional fortunes 2019-06-17 15-08-21 PDT Bryce Harrington the exterior covering of the house, e.g. shingles or boards; in our case we have vinyl siding that is starting to get pretty brittle and has broken in a few places 2020-07-21 11-18-06 PDT Bryce Harrington Thanks, yes we watched the protests last night via livestreams. Last night was huge, I think one of the biggest marches so far, lots of moms in yellow 2020-03-08 21-38-47 PDT Bryce Harrington the files need to follow the same format as the other logs in order to html-ify them properly. 2020-11-17 21-13-33 PST Bryce Harrington hoping the new rocketchat will be better in that respect but we'll see 2019-01-14 16-53-47 PST Bryce Harrington yeah I need to get word out to all the packagers, I'll try and remember to do that today 2019-12-03 11-31-01 PST Bryce Harrington Mc has root access on the mailing list now 2019-01-28 12-33-28 PST Bryce Harrington and yeah I was thinking Legal maybe as a sub-group of the Board group in gitlab, it looks like that way all the board members would be included but we could also add people just for Legal, such as our lawyers, or other project members with a specific interest in working on these kinds of tasks. 2019-01-14 16-58-49 PST Bryce Harrington well like I said, ideal world there'd just be a script that fills it in using what's in the .yml. 2019-05-11 15-41-29 PDT Bryce Harrington yep, it'll be interesting to see how things go 2018-10-11 18-19-48 PDT Bryce Harrington my mom's really sick and is getting checked into the hospital right now, things don't look very good 2019-10-18 18-02-09 PDT Bryce Harrington encryption renewal for the website or something 2020-07-25 01-30-33 PDT Bryce Harrington peaceful demonstrations involving thousands of people occur between about 5pm and midnight, then around midnight or so, until 3am is when the altercations occur that you'll see in the media, which are like 20-40 federal police vs. 100-200 well-equipped folks. 2018-10-11 18-47-59 PDT Bryce Harrington no, the hospital is just across town, she lives in a retirement center not far from me. 2019-12-03 11-45-17 PST Bryce Harrington it's not ok with me! 2018-10-11 18-23-03 PDT Bryce Harrington this is still confidential but I think we're close to being able to make it public. Keep it to yourself for now 2020-03-21 15-33-52 PDT Bryce Harrington No problem, it just isn't automated. I had ambitions of hooking it up via CI, but didn't sort out the dependencies for running the script. The pieces are there if someone wanted to complete that work. 2019-02-05 16-56-26 PST Bryce Harrington they're interested in seeing improvements that are important to their customer, so I'm curious what those improvements might be 2019-01-12 20-41-24 PST Bryce Harrington I'm working with Ian on getting mailman3 finished up. It's a bit of a slog but progress is moving forward. After that, I want to try setting up a (probably private) mailing list for sponsorship management so that I am not bottlenecking it. For the time being, contact(a)inkscape.org is just directing to me. 2020-04-29 16-25-21 PDT Bryce Harrington I've posted a couple thoughts, hope it helps. 2019-04-02 13-31-20 PDT Bryce Harrington it makes me wonder if for Inkscape, it would be to our benefit to move from Cairo to Skia 2019-01-16 09-56-08 PST Bryce Harrington Yes, I used the script to generate the NEWS file included in the package, and then manually improved the formatting a bit to make it consistent with what we shipped in 0.92.3. You can copy and use that file 2020-11-17 21-13-11 PST Bryce Harrington I do know people @ me on rocketchat but a lot of time I can't actually find the mention in the backlog. 2019-04-02 13-54-31 PDT Bryce Harrington Canonical's HR is really slow so wouldn't surprise me if it ends up taking a while 2019-06-17 15-26-40 PDT Bryce Harrington so have to dig it up and mix in lots and lots of sand and mulch to make it work 2019-06-17 09-29-26 PDT Bryce Harrington and yeah, I haven't been spending as much time with the kids during the workweek so they take advantage of the weekends 2020-11-06 13-06-01 PST Bryce Harrington Thanks for letting me know about Ryan, I hope he's doing ok. 2019-04-02 13-28-56 PDT Bryce Harrington Firefox no longer uses it, but there are some GNOME components that do. At this point I think Inkscape may be the major user of it. 2019-06-17 15-38-01 PDT Bryce Harrington corkboard.jpg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/SLknM7yeXdaw7kJFJ/corkboard.jpg) 2019-04-02 13-16-10 PDT Bryce Harrington oh, I hadn't heard they were in the middle of a lawsuit 2018-12-23 16-15-40 PST Bryce Harrington I was concerned that the move to Mir was going to make my role less relevant, but now they've given up on that. In fact the time I spent working on Wayland is probably a value I'd be bringing back. 2019-06-17 14-47-25 PDT Bryce Harrington it is; I'm sitting at it now in fact. the monitor layout has changed considerably, I'm up to 5 monitors now :-) 2019-01-14 16-57-28 PST Bryce Harrington what I have in mind, would not have much actual text in it, just version numbers, dates, names, and links to relevant resources 2019-11-17 18-45-38 PST Bryce Harrington done 2018-10-11 18-27-30 PDT Bryce Harrington I was kind of half hoping they'd choose to buy us off for some insanely huge amount of money so we could start having some paid workers, but oh well, this is good too ;-) 2019-02-05 19-11-08 PST Bryce Harrington I'll have to put some thought in then 2018-11-17 13-34-38 PST Bryce Harrington no, I just wanted you to know, I know I can rely on you to fill in where it's needed 2019-02-05 17-01-01 PST Bryce Harrington http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Sponsors_list 2019-04-02 13-57-14 PDT Bryce Harrington I'd been waiting on word back for a desktop team role for months (still waiting, technically, I guess); but some co-workers suggested I go for this cloud management position, so that's what I'm gunning for now. 2019-04-02 13-25-12 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah, maintaining Cairo and making features for it, and doing various stuff on Wayland and EFL and other projects 2020-09-06 00-56-21 PDT Bryce Harrington Yes, things are a bit intense in Portland now. Everything's ok with me. Last week was out of town on vacation, this week super busy with work. 2018-12-03 14-17-09 PST Bryce Harrington how are things with you? 2019-12-03 11-44-44 PST Bryce Harrington not lot out, just be socially unable to make any changes to it myself, else he will get mad at me 2018-12-08 12-34-51 PST Bryce Harrington scp should work though, might be possible to get sftp working for it, if it isn't already, if that would be an option. 2019-03-20 22-49-38 PDT Bryce Harrington I tell you what... job hunting is a job in itself! (and one with crap for salary!) 2020-07-25 01-43-32 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm going to go drop off supplies to the protestors downtown tomorrow or Sunday. 2019-02-05 19-10-58 PST Bryce Harrington ok, hrm 2018-11-11 13-53-28 PST Bryce Harrington I know we probably need to do some more scrubbing to finish 2geom's move off github 2018-10-11 18-50-31 PDT Bryce Harrington early morning for you? 2019-09-04 18-10-29 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks for responding to everyone, and what you've told them is all correct. I feel badly that I've not been able to work on the mail server, it's a bit intimidating tbh. 2018-12-08 12-37-26 PST Bryce Harrington he was talking about it, but I think that was just for hosting the raw data (.ics files), not for a web calendar interface 2019-01-15 14-51-13 PST Bryce Harrington I'll look through the list again 2019-03-12 09-25-18 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah. People will probably also be pretty tired by that point too 2019-01-15 14-45-51 PST Bryce Harrington what is the correct way to get into the releases app? 2019-12-03 11-44-21 PST Bryce Harrington then if/when things break I get the blame and he expresses to everyone that he's angry with me 2019-05-11 16-01-18 PDT Bryce Harrington speaking of which, my daughter is demanding I go play with her, as I promised I'd do "later, maybe this weekend when I have some time" ;-) 2019-12-03 12-31-43 PST Bryce Harrington I also discovered that several people I tried adding as moderators (who were moderators on the old lists), caused bounces in the new system 2019-12-03 11-40-50 PST Bryce Harrington how is it django? 2019-03-12 09-14-01 PDT Bryce Harrington I don't know whether LGM has done the city tour before, but I've done that with XDC and UDS events. 2019-01-16 09-59-19 PST Bryce Harrington and actually I've wondered if a different formatting (e.g. markdown) would be better for the NEWS file. Something to decide later. 2019-11-17 18-40-08 PST Bryce Harrington mailman needs an upgrade too, the ui is buggy 2018-11-11 13-53-06 PST Bryce Harrington yes, gitlab 2019-10-18 18-03-43 PDT Bryce Harrington and yeah emails' going to be easier for me, I can't easily follow rocketchat 2019-03-12 09-00-28 PDT Bryce Harrington what's the photo tour? 2019-06-17 09-27-54 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, I love doing that but been a long time since I had time to work on projects. Here's one I did a while ago - http://www.bryceharrington.org/Desk/ 2019-12-03 12-16-04 PST Bryce Harrington I've donated thousands of dollars to Inkscape personally, and only took reimbursement once iirc, for the pasadena hackfest when I was laid off 2019-01-13 10-12-23 PST Bryce Harrington it's weird though because he sort of took over doing sponsor management, I don't think anyone specifically asked him to do it, it's always ultimately been my job, he just kind of inserted himself into the process because the website was using the generic contact form 2018-10-11 18-23-15 PDT Bryce Harrington Wacom has a product named Inkspace, and filed for trademark 2018-10-11 18-45-40 PDT Bryce Harrington thank you for listening, that's more helpful than anything 2019-12-03 11-54-03 PST Bryce Harrington but I said if the board could figure out a way to employ me, I'd be willing to shift to working full time on Inkscape. It'd be a huge financial sacrifice but I was willing to do it for the project 2018-12-08 12-26-43 PST Bryce Harrington an auto-reminder is a great idea, I just don't think it needs to be done as a part of the website. 2019-12-03 11-46-17 PST Bryce Harrington I feel bad enough not having time for Inkscape anymore, he just pours salt in the wounds 2019-06-17 16-02-04 PDT Bryce Harrington dinner time, gtg 2019-06-17 15-27-51 PDT Bryce Harrington but yeah, depends on how much $$ we want to invest 2019-04-02 13-30-51 PDT Bryce Harrington at Samsung, one of my projects was to evaluate GPU accelerated performance of Cairo vs. Google's Skia. Skia did very well 2020-11-18 00-25-16 PST Bryce Harrington if there's anything you are personally blocking on a reply from me, I apologize. Please re-ping in these cases and I'll do my best to help. I've been trying, but 2020 has been a challenging year to stay on top of things. 2019-01-14 16-54-24 PST Bryce Harrington it's on my todo list to work on ppas, but 2ndary priority atm. hard to predict if it'll be trivial or hard... 2019-12-03 11-58-12 PST Bryce Harrington writing and applying for grants, yes 2019-12-03 12-12-21 PST Bryce Harrington it's actually all provided by the Conservancy 2018-11-17 13-51-06 PST Bryce Harrington we'll need to define what our messaging strategy is, and then I think it makes sense to brainstorm what specific actions will be worth undertaking 2019-11-17 18-41-20 PST Bryce Harrington sure 2019-01-05 09-39-35 PST Bryce Harrington they link to one email, which could be either someone's individual email address, or a mailing list I suppose. 2018-12-08 12-31-57 PST Bryce Harrington nextcloud looks interesting; I must have missed that discussion, but the Nextcloud Groupware says it has a calendar and contacts 2018-12-23 16-28-25 PST Bryce Harrington thanks for the chat :-) my sister's visiting the kids so am going to go hang out and socialize. Have a great Christmas! 2019-10-01 07-55-10 PDT Bryce Harrington Yes, I took Tav and Mc out for dinner on the Wednesday night, and we walked down the main street to the Arc and down to the Louvre. They took some photos of us, but I haven't seen how they turned out. 2019-12-03 11-32-23 PST Bryce Harrington at this point I am ready to just give up 2019-09-04 18-16-16 PDT Bryce Harrington every time I look at mailman3 I find more bugs. 2018-10-11 18-58-40 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks you too! 2019-05-11 16-00-18 PDT Bryce Harrington yes... I am apprehensive though because last time I was at Canonical it really sucked dry all my energy for technical matters. I had little time left except attend board meetings. It would be nice if that didn't happen this time, but so far signs aren't pointed favorably... 2019-02-05 17-01-31 PST Bryce Harrington I'm going to contact all the expired/expiring sponsors as soon as I get some spare moments 2019-04-02 13-34-28 PDT Bryce Harrington I had hoped Samsung would be that; it's one of the reasons I had joined them to begin with, I thought I could work on Cairo full time, but they kept shifting strategy every 6 months and kept moving me off Cairo to other things 2020-07-25 01-45-07 PDT Bryce Harrington There's a group "Riot Ribs" that cooks food for free for protestors + homeless people + whomeever. We're going to give them food & cleaning supplies. 2019-03-20 22-44-36 PDT Bryce Harrington I had a really good interview today with a company here in Portland. They have zero interest in Inkscape (although one of the interviewers was a big fan), so if I join them then no dice. But if instead I return to Canonical (also a possibility), they've always been flexible on allowing time (and even sponsorship) to attend open source events, so that'd be a maybe. 2019-05-11 15-32-19 PDT Bryce Harrington lots to learn, but has been great reconnecting with folks, and parts of the job are like being back in your own home after a long time gone. I know where to look for stuff, and somehow remember how to do lots of random things. 2018-12-23 16-16-56 PST Bryce Harrington Second I was concerned that the profligate spending on crazy projects was going to tank the company, and they did end up having mass layoffs. But the desktop team survived and I think the company may be in better financial shape. But I'm less worried about this now. 2019-04-02 13-14-07 PDT Bryce Harrington I sympathize though, I ***really*** want to get moving on soliciting more sponsors for us, but it's hard for me to justify it when I know the invoicing is going to take 2-3 months or more 2019-02-05 17-11-02 PST Bryce Harrington then we can ask them to resub in a year 2019-02-05 19-17-04 PST Bryce Harrington that's good, yes I see he gave a good summary of the situation, and there's a good post from another person summarizing the state of things 2019-02-05 19-30-57 PST Bryce Harrington yeah it snowed here last night for the first time this season. Kids have been on snow day away from school (and underfoot!) all day. They say more snow's coming. 2019-12-03 11-33-05 PST Bryce Harrington I literally *just* did ALL of the mailing list admin/moderation last weekend 2018-10-11 18-18-57 PDT Bryce Harrington Samsung is laying off the entire Open Source Group, just found out Monday 2019-09-06 15-10-16 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks 2019-12-03 11-43-16 PST Bryce Harrington he decides how he wants to do things and doesn't accept my input or advice 2019-02-05 17-03-56 PST Bryce Harrington what do you think? Should we give them a complimentary bronze for a year, since we didn't list them? 2019-06-17 15-04-08 PDT Bryce Harrington trello boards, bunch of irc channels, build processes, two email accounts, etc. 2018-12-23 15-59-10 PST Bryce Harrington Thanks, merry christmas to you too! 2019-02-05 19-27-38 PST Bryce Harrington it sounds like the first focus for the group should be gathering and assembling all the brainstorms and info dumping, and start getting it organized, maybe in a wiki page or gitlab issue 2019-04-27 10-40-05 PDT Bryce Harrington I didn't get on with that cloud management group at Canonical, but they gave me a super good referral to the Ubuntu Server team, and they've hired me. I start Wednesday. :-) 2018-10-11 18-51-39 PDT Bryce Harrington no, they're at their grandparents, and my wife's at the hospital 2019-02-22 11-01-10 PST Bryce Harrington I'll follow up with him if he starts acting reasonable, but I'm not impressed so far 2019-02-05 19-00-15 PST Bryce Harrington sounds like they all went well, I expect they'll be exhausted, but hope we get some movement on some RT tickets we've been waiting on 2019-01-15 14-29-06 PST Bryce Harrington however it's a very long list and I'm not sure how it's sorted. I am not able to locate the link 2019-12-03 12-07-25 PST Bryce Harrington and I added martin as root on wiki.inkscape.org to take that entire task over from me 2018-12-08 12-36-51 PST Bryce Harrington of course, we could even just use google calendar until someone has time to set up a proper foss tool 2019-06-17 15-23-37 PDT Bryce Harrington hah yes true 2019-01-14 13-52-50 PST Bryce Harrington I think we're getting close on mailman3 :-) 2019-01-14 16-55-55 PST Bryce Harrington oh, I'm also going to start generating a .yml file with the source tarball, with the details needed for the releases app 2019-11-17 18-39-00 PST Bryce Harrington yeah 2019-06-17 15-05-09 PDT Bryce Harrington although not as badly as when I was working on X.org 2020-03-09 00-09-33 PDT Bryce Harrington [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/Moini?msg=zhhr7eMMRXb7nTxtA) All the board members have commit access to the documents repo. If you'd like access as well, I don't see that there'd be a problem. () 2019-12-03 12-16-40 PST Bryce Harrington did you know that the reason we started with SFC is because originally people just sent donations for Inkscape to me directly? 2019-05-11 15-02-53 PDT Bryce Harrington I thought maybe I'd still be unemployed by then and could come, or something 2019-01-13 18-42-52 PST Bryce Harrington Yes, I'm sure you're right. I'll send an email explaining what I want to propose. 2019-09-04 18-11-40 PDT Bryce Harrington Mostly I feel bad for blocking the project's progress. I noticed people had discovered that I hadn't turned off the old lists, and were using them, and that seemed like a perfectly fine workaround. 2019-12-03 12-26-12 PST Moini It's why I tag you when I see it, so you can make it direct. 2019-09-05 04-14-18 PDT Moini (so maybe that plays a role in my thinking of what is right) 2019-09-05 04-10-27 PDT Moini And currently, there isn't anything to break on the mail server, right? It can only get better. 2018-12-19 10-24-25 PST Moini Good luck! (if the out-of-town thing is what I think it is) 2019-04-02 13-39-19 PDT Moini sorry, brb 2019-12-03 11-56-18 PST Moini What was the reply? 2018-12-03 14-11-59 PST Moini It's good that you're doing that, rather than spend time on Inkscape. Not that we don't miss you here, but taking that time is much, much more important for you. 2019-12-03 11-33-58 PST Moini For what I know, he sees bottleneck issues and tries to get rid of them. It's cool that you did that, thank you. But wouldn't it be good if more people can help? 2019-01-16 10-16-49 PST Moini No announcement prepared. 2019-12-04 13-04-50 PST Moini (and tell everyone who might open it...) 2020-03-07 09-14-47 PST Moini Hi Bryce! Hope you're doing well. Do you know who else but you has access to upload files into https://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/ ? It's missing 3 meetings already by now. 2018-10-11 18-22-27 PDT Moini That's good, too. 2020-03-21 15-22-03 PDT Moini Hey, thank you! Have a nice weekend, Bryce! 2019-04-02 14-04-13 PDT Moini So, let's see if you'll get to be the next cloud manager :) 2019-01-27 17-04-13 PST Moini We do have policies, only nobody read them, or did any research. FWIW, I don't think it's scam. They just provide a bad experience on low-end hardware and don't warn about that. Having ads in an Android app... well, that isn't exactly an exception. Anyway, they changed the name - if that was what we wanted (why? It's permitted in our rules), then we got it. They don't distribute the software, they give access to it. I agree that next time, we should give the lawyer a hand with any technical topics before they can go wild. I thought it was Conservancy's stance to talk with people first - just like I thought it was ours to be permissive in the use of the trademarks, if they are not clearly misrepresenting Inkscape. Maybe next time... (btw. the ~clearly wrong~ edit: suspicious usage by that Digital Fashion Pro scam is still ongoing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUa6-dMv9-8 - why do we allow that? Has anyone ever found out if they comply to the GPL?) 2019-12-03 11-29-45 PST Moini I can understand that. 2019-05-11 15-04-12 PDT Moini But I understand you'd have liked to be there. 2019-01-16 07-16-41 PST Moini 6. Do this task distribution at least 3 weeks in advance. Ask back if everyone knows what they need to do. 2019-01-16 10-16-08 PST Moini Homebrew: no idea. 2019-01-15 14-40-06 PST Moini Want me to download and re-upload? 2018-10-11 18-48-21 PDT Moini Ah, yes. You told us about the move to somewhere closer to you. 2019-09-05 04-06-51 PDT Moini You don't have to fix it yourself. 2019-12-03 11-59-06 PST Moini You did that :) 2019-01-15 14-53-43 PST Moini Thank you. 2018-12-23 16-04-30 PST Moini He, it's good that you do :) 2019-11-23 16-40-58 PST Moini I've still got access. 2019-12-03 12-34-38 PST Moini Yes, that will work. 2019-01-15 10-40-50 PST Moini Bryce, will you upload the source to inkscape.org? 2019-01-15 14-26-24 PST Moini I'd prefer solving the issue, but I can't right now. 2019-01-30 17-01-55 PST Moini Thanks, Bryce. Note that a 'guest' status would - edit: probably - (not tested) be sufficient - 'reporter' means I can also edit descriptions, labels etc. I'll pack my stuff for tomorrow now - good night! 2019-10-18 17-53-21 PDT Moini Hi - Martin wants to contact you about board business, as you're currently only sporadically available. 2019-01-15 14-47-03 PST Moini (click on your profile pic and go to Admin interface from there) 2019-11-17 18-46-56 PST Moini Vectors yes, but for devel, no, thanks. I'm already getting enough 'this message requires your action' emails for translators, user (and now vectors). 2019-01-14 17-07-26 PST Moini It's multiple db tables. 2019-01-16 10-21-25 PST Moini I can fit in publishing tomorrow. 2019-04-05 06-58-42 PDT Moini Sending kind thoughts your way. 2019-04-02 13-23-42 PDT Moini Ah, so that is a reason. 2019-01-16 10-04-38 PST Moini Chris is still working on his video. 2019-01-16 09-58-35 PST Moini Ah, you already did it! 2019-12-03 11-30-23 PST Moini The goal is to avoid bottlenecks. 2019-01-16 07-23-25 PST Moini Some will always remain, and something will always suddenly pop up. 2019-03-27 08-59-19 PDT Moini Yes, your email works fine. I was only hesitant to post a 'yes I would mind' as a reply. Can you find another tester, please? 2019-04-02 13-18-00 PDT Moini Focussing on what's important, that's not a bad thing to do :) 2018-11-17 13-48-24 PST Moini Oh, I see, that's a large thing to tackle. I think Ryan will fill me in on the details when he knows them (so you don't need to now). 2019-01-15 14-22-32 PST Moini Choose to upload something. 2018-12-23 15-59-30 PST Moini Thanks :) 2019-01-15 14-30-38 PST Moini It's fine. Is it uploaded already? 2019-02-05 17-02-20 PST Moini Those were the ones that paid 600(?)$, but didn't introduce themselves as an official sponsor. 2019-01-15 14-54-00 PST Moini Would you please publish it? 2019-01-15 14-32-06 PST Moini I'm not sure what you mean by 'resource' where it should show up. Are you in the releases app already? 2019-01-15 14-33-24 PST Moini Link, please :) 2019-01-14 17-10-37 PST Moini Plus the pictures, they need to be uploaded somewhere. Part goes into the releases app, part goes somewhere where Martin's extraction script puts them. 2019-12-03 11-38-52 PST Moini I'm not angry with you. 2019-04-02 13-38-18 PDT Moini So, the alternative you're looking into is 'cloud'? Anything specific? 2019-12-03 11-36-10 PST Moini And we do now. 2019-01-16 10-21-11 PST Moini If it's only pushing some buttons, and Alex is quick, we could still release tomorrow. 2019-11-23 16-40-45 PST Moini Bildschirmfoto_2019-11-24_01-39-35.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ksWdTL3Jjtw8fqpB3/Bildschirmfoto_2019…) 2018-10-11 18-44-13 PDT Moini I wish I knew what to say :-/ 2019-01-16 09-58-13 PST Moini Not this one: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/packaging/mkNEWS 2019-01-16 10-02-55 PST Moini lol. 2018-10-11 18-34-50 PDT Moini Even rocket science ;-) 2019-12-03 11-28-50 PST Moini He is pissed off, too... 2019-01-14 17-03-25 PST Moini We have lots of descriptions and instructions there. Most downloads actually consist of those, except for Windows. 2020-08-21 08-00-58 PDT Moini Bryce, do you have access to the chat server via SSH? I'm asking because of https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43 - Manuel hasn't said a word since the (possibly failed?) update. Although, the emojis contain one with a face mask... So maybe the info in the Administration tab is wrong. It would just be good to know, I find it really horrible that noone seems to be able to check the server... 2019-01-08 17-10-02 PST Moini Sorry, had to delete that again, due to https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues/305 2019-12-03 11-36-31 PST Moini It's not suddenly, Bryce. 2019-12-03 11-43-21 PST Moini That's something that he has done, yes. 2019-10-18 18-11-10 PDT Moini That's what I told Martin, too... 2019-10-18 17-54-49 PDT Moini He's worried that things may start piling up sooner or later. 2019-01-15 15-01-02 PST Moini Fix it for all uploads and update. 2019-01-15 15-04-39 PST Moini Also, best do a test download to see if it's been uploaded properly. 2019-12-03 11-57-45 PST Moini Yes, the part about 'writing grants' I guess. 2019-01-16 07-20-58 PST Moini (you can still do things later, but not before that time) 2019-01-15 14-31-39 PST Moini Or what are you looking for? 2019-12-03 12-13-32 PST Moini (where's that dragon with the treasure chest icon to put under your reply?) 2019-01-27 17-07-11 PST Moini :-( 2019-04-12 16-23-53 PDT Moini Messaged Michèle about that already. 2019-03-12 09-18-27 PDT Moini Yes. Esp. as Jabier's and Mihaela's workshop is on the last day.... 2018-10-11 18-24-08 PDT Moini Wow. 2019-01-15 14-27-48 PST Moini Trying to reach Martin. 2019-02-05 17-03-30 PST Moini Didn't know if they were still on that list for you. Thanks :) 2018-12-23 16-03-21 PST Moini Plus community management, obviously. 2019-12-03 11-54-37 PST Moini Ah, I've heard hinting at something like that, but nothing firm. 2018-12-03 14-17-22 PST Moini Yes, it's hard to not be able to help much, make things better. I think you're already doing all you can, making things as good as is possible. 2019-12-04 13-03-54 PST Moini Forgot to tell you yesterday that I finally gave the certificate into the mail. Hope it's going to survive transport, there's glass in the frame. Please be careful when opening! 2020-04-25 13-13-06 PDT Moini Hi Bryce, I'm currently trying to get a few people to reply to the questions in https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 for the 1.0 release news item (or a later one) - would you be up to answering a couple questions? I know you currently don't have a lot of time for contributing, but there's also a field at the bottom where you can write what you want, and I'd really like to 'hear your voice' in the article. Maybe some historical background, or really anything that you'd like to share with our users for the 1.0. 2019-12-03 11-42-52 PST Moini That's what I thought. 2019-03-12 09-23-14 PDT Moini Not sure, Mc was asking about dates yesterday for Elisa. 2019-11-23 16-40-36 PST Moini Bryce, whatever you did, it didn't work: 2019-01-16 17-45-17 PST Moini Bryce, if you're still there, can you fix Mihaela's promise of travel refund for a new dev here, if appropriate: https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/general?msg=xrN43Hyuyjhuimi2N () 2019-01-16 07-25-23 PST Moini 10. Make it clear to everyone who will be the one to take on the final 'publishing', set a distinct time for that, or meet up with the people who will take part in it to coordinate. 2019-01-07 17-01-52 PST Moini Done. I hope there's going to be more than one person reading these. 2019-01-16 10-02-40 PST Moini Okay, catch up! 2018-12-08 12-24-44 PST Moini I see what you mean, but can't take it back now :-( An auto-expiring sponsor image wouldn't be too bad, though? (I think that already exists, it just isn't used). If that then sends a reminder out when a sponsorship expires, to a mailing list or to a set of people who are responsible? This would make things easier for adding and removing, too, because editing that horrible cms isn't working too well. It would still be handled by a human, who is responsible for keeping things in accordance to the rules. 2019-10-18 17-57-29 PDT Moini Hope things are going okay for you, Bryce. 2019-11-17 18-40-52 PST Moini (and if you haven't yet, could you approve my emails to devel + announce, please? For the voting.) 2019-12-03 11-35-04 PST Moini I don't want to do ALL of the mailing list admin on my weekend... 2020-03-20 06-36-04 PDT Moini Hi Bryce! Marc has added a log file to the repository, but something doesn't seem to have worked out. It can be downloaded, but it's not available as HTML. When you have some time, would you have a look? 2019-01-06 18-46-38 PST Moini I mean the [man page and tutorials, including translations](https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/documentation). They are being recreated from their sources automatically, using gitlab CI. The Inkscape website pulls the built docs from [here](https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/documentation-export). It currently only has a single branch, which is for 0.92.x. The new 1.0 command line (https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/418#note_118734400) is very different from the one for 0.92.x, and will require a serious overhaul of the man page. This hasn't happened yet, and I think the coding is also not finalized yet, so might still change (and we don't have a documentation branch for it). No need to revert (did that actually work without breaking the website?), just let people know what you changed, so translations can be adjusted. I don't understand what you mean by 'described what to do to add...' - where? Yes, I can adjust the contact us link to a mailto:, if that's all that's needed - can even be done for translations without requiring a translation. 2019-04-05 06-56-59 PDT Moini Yes, it's difficult, you've invested a lot of effort and hope. 2019-06-17 15-33-03 PDT Moini I've also learnt that there's always something to do with house and garden. But it's worth it, we've got so many insects in the garden now, and even three frogs in the mini pond. It's just nice to watch and listen. 2019-01-15 15-00-48 PST Moini So you have a couple of options: 2019-12-03 12-12-07 PST Moini I don't know how that is done with Conservancy. 2019-01-15 14-24-42 PST Moini You should have 'Inkscape package' in your list. 2019-12-03 12-04-32 PST Moini I will be blunt, because the solution is jumping at me ... which is, share responsibilities. Then people can fix the complaints themselves. 2018-10-11 18-21-46 PDT Moini People are working together well, and things are moving forward. 2019-04-02 13-53-31 PDT Moini Did they say when they will get back to you? 2019-01-16 10-16-43 PST Moini The news is ready. 2019-05-11 15-00-15 PDT Moini I'm not! 2019-06-17 15-24-33 PDT Moini Sounds smart :) 2019-12-03 12-27-32 PST Moini It's always easier to see in others. 2019-04-02 13-33-16 PDT Moini If this were Michèle on this end, I know she'd ask: Now where do we get that big company sponsor that will sponsor that. 2020-04-27 10-03-16 PDT Moini Oh, cool :) 2019-10-01 08-10-13 PDT Moini I guess that means that you had enough work going on during the day. Some fun is the right thing, then :) 2019-01-15 15-06-42 PST Moini It looks like it should be working with a signature that fits the upload... https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/blob/master/resources/models.py#L4… 2019-01-13 08-35-45 PST Moini Okay, I'm glad there will be a mailing list - because the order in which this was done (change email address before a mailing list exists) would make me feel like you aren't trusting me, if I were Martin. Have you told him about the change? 2019-02-06 05-29-26 PST Moini We're joking that we have a 'walk-in fridge' now :) Cool, having no school because of snow is fun, hope it's not going to get too bad, though. Ours has thawed away, it wasn't much anyway. 2019-01-14 16-54-26 PST Moini Mc will update Windows store 2019-06-17 15-35-21 PDT Moini Ooh, I see :) 2019-01-16 17-45-40 PST Moini (Florida is far and Pasadena is expensive...) 2019-01-05 09-40-27 PST Moini Okay, thanks! As mailing lists are currently stalled, I think I don't want one currently. 2019-01-16 10-08-24 PST Moini https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues/311 2019-12-03 12-30-57 PST Moini I think the 'add the board' request was for having a reliable 'base'. Personally, I'd ask them first, because it means they get emails. 2019-03-12 09-15-16 PDT Moini Yes, I think he was the one who mostly cared about the length (beside myself). 2019-07-12 10-07-06 PDT Moini In case you're there, maybe you get email messages: the board meeting has begun. Hope all is well! 2019-01-15 14-22-09 PST Moini Okay, so: Visit https://inkscape.org 2019-01-16 10-14-19 PST Moini ppa: todo, flatpak: unknown, need to look. macPorts: Thomas made a merge request. 2019-03-20 16-48-22 PDT Moini Bryce, I saw you added yourself to the list of people to invite for the hackfest. - Does that mean you might be able to attend? Or would you like an invitation first ;-) ? 2019-12-03 11-44-38 PST Moini And I have never seen him put the blame on someone else. 2019-05-01 17-52-37 PDT Moini Sounds like a good version of a 'normal' first day :) Lots of new info, lots of new responsibilities, but also some people you already know. Have a good second day tomorrow! 2019-02-05 19-04-00 PST Moini I'm hoping they'll open a ticket for Bremen :) But it's not urgent, as long as they don't forget. It's even below the lower amount from the board vote. 2019-12-03 12-08-33 PST Moini I've never heard anyone say anything else. 2019-06-17 15-33-33 PDT Moini (unless it's the deer or the neighbor's cats) 2019-03-12 09-02-49 PDT Moini I don't think it's going to last all day, and I don't think that everyone will want to participate. 2019-02-05 17-05-10 PST Moini There may be reasons to keep it secret, who knows.... 2018-10-11 18-41-37 PDT Moini I think I missed the stock market part... and got used to the politics too much already. 2019-02-05 09-55-31 PST Moini We 'press thumbs' here :) 2019-01-14 17-09-31 PST Moini https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/blob/master/utils/backup#L38 2019-11-17 18-44-59 PST Moini Sorry, it's super late, been having a 'contest party' (kind of) in the Vectors channel. 2018-11-11 13-53-20 PST Moini Meh. 2019-06-17 15-27-01 PDT Moini Or expensive :) 2018-10-11 18-50-14 PDT Moini 9 hours earlier, probably... sooo 7 pm? 2019-01-16 07-15-46 PST Moini 5. Don't rely on a single person to pick up all loose ends. Distribute distinct tasks before the release to different persons. 2019-01-16 10-20-51 PST Moini So, except for ppa and Chris' video, we're ready to go. 2019-04-02 13-24-17 PDT Moini I didn't really know what you were doing at Samsung... (oops) 2019-01-16 10-16-57 PST Moini (at least to my knowledge) 2018-12-08 12-32-48 PST Moini It was about shared files, maybe it was Ryan? Not sure. Because he has those large flyer, poster, merch files... 2019-09-05 04-08-40 PDT Moini I bet you have automatted the credential sharing as much as you can, and the documentation in the repository is good. 2019-11-17 18-45-27 PST Moini It will be a tough vote, there are some really good entries. 2019-01-14 15-24-05 PST Moini And is someone going to update the ppa? (for stable branch) 2019-12-03 12-18-26 PST Moini Yes, I wouldn't like that, either, if I had been in that situation. 2019-12-03 11-56-59 PST Moini I didn't know. 2019-01-15 15-01-23 PST Moini Leave it out. 2019-12-03 12-29-12 PST Moini Only getting to the post is then a bit hidden. Requires an extra click on the ... icon. 2019-06-17 15-25-41 PDT Moini Isn't clay supposed to be very fertile? 2019-06-17 15-25-01 PDT Moini If I have more than they can eat, I'll still get some of the leftovers :) 2018-10-11 18-45-39 PDT Moini But I think you can take the time you need - will you go visit her soon? 2019-03-12 09-02-12 PDT Moini I don't know any details, but I guess it's a bit of a city tour with taking photos, both as materials for workshops, for meeting others, and for learning about the town a bit. 2018-12-08 12-33-38 PST Moini (I'd just put them into gitlab, but well, that's me ;-)) 2019-01-15 14-56-54 PST Moini Is the corresponding public key uploaded in your profile? 2019-01-16 07-35-20 PST Moini I'll try to get hold of him again. 2019-01-03 08-52-28 PST Moini Or they are just too polite... 2019-12-03 11-45-08 PST Moini It's okay if Martin is mad at someone :) 2019-08-29 14-17-37 PDT Moini Thanks! Might still take a couple weeks - I'll try to get it done before Kielux, but definitely after, if that doesn't work out. 2019-06-17 09-10-40 PDT Moini Thank you for taking a look. I think Father's Day is a valid thing - your new job is probably not only taking a toll on how much time you can spend on Inkscape, but also on your 'real life'. I hope it was nice! Didn't know that about the woodworking, btw. ;-) 2019-04-02 13-16-28 PDT Moini The VMWare thing, they just shared that it's over now. 2019-12-03 11-31-21 PST Moini That's good. 2019-12-03 12-34-22 PST Moini I have a dialog there that would allow me to. 2019-09-30 07-53-26 PDT Moini How are things going for you? How was the birthday party? :) 2018-11-17 13-33-47 PST Moini Hi (sorry, my fiancé was going to bed). I'm sorry, this must be difficult :-( There's both a lot to organize and do, and then of course, it's hard overall... I fully understand that you won't have a lot of time now. Is there anything you want me to help with? 2019-02-05 19-10-31 PST Moini Thomas seems to know a bit about what would need to be done, and someone called forrest wanted to take some time to find out more about the necessary steps.. 2019-01-15 14-21-37 PST Moini I just spelled this out for Michèle, wait. 2019-01-15 14-34-37 PST Moini Ah, okay, the modal dialog... That doesn't help. Sorry. What's in the page's breadcrumbs? 2019-01-27 17-07-24 PST Moini I was wondering what has become of that, too. 2019-02-05 19-24-47 PST Moini I'll try if I can get them to meet, although I'm probably the one with the least knowledge :) They need to figure out what they want to talk about themselves. Hopefully, Thomas can help with that, he might even lead the meeting. Well, that's what I'm hoping for :) 2019-02-05 09-54-15 PST Moini I used both, and got a reply from that one. 2020-01-01 12-57-36 PST Moini Hi Bryce - Happy New Year! I'm hoping this will be a good one for you and your family. :fireworks: 2020-04-11 11-37-43 PDT Moini Sorry :-/ I think I was mainly worried about that reaction. Didn't phrase that too well. Thanks for the wishes! 2019-04-02 13-35-21 PDT Moini Hopefully at least efficient for the company... 2019-06-17 15-10-23 PDT Moini It's going to get loud soon ;-) Seems well invested, before the water can get in. 2019-10-01 08-11-37 PDT Moini Exercise is exactly what I'll do now, too, my garden needs me :sunflower: 2019-02-05 18-59-38 PST Moini They gave quite a few talks. 2020-03-07 09-15-18 PST Moini (I know you probably don't have any transcripts - I don't, either, but I suppose Marc has them all) 2019-11-17 18-42-46 PST Moini Spam doesn't seem to come through, currently. 2018-10-11 18-20-48 PDT Moini Hugs :-/ 2019-01-15 14-40-19 PST Moini Not on alpha. 2019-12-03 11-58-44 PST Moini He, now that I know, I'm sad, too. 2019-12-03 12-12-28 PST Moini It might not be possible to share, even if you wanted to. 2019-09-05 04-02-38 PDT Moini Hi :) I don't think they 'discovered' it - at least to me it was clear that they hadn't been deactivated yet. 2019-03-12 09-20-08 PDT Moini (in either case, tbh.) 2018-12-08 12-29-45 PST Moini I don't like spreadsheets at all :-P 2019-02-05 19-27-29 PST Moini Anyway, it's late and I'd better go to bed. Good night! 2018-12-23 16-11-31 PST Moini Ha, all the apps I have a love-hate relationship with... Sounds like you'd need to get up early for this one. Guess you fulfill the requirements (esp. the X part) more than perfectly. 2019-12-03 11-45-58 PST Moini Okay, that I can understand. 2019-06-17 15-06-11 PDT Moini That's a lot of info to digest all at once for you. 2019-06-17 15-42-37 PDT Moini One can rarely go wrong with a corkboard (really, it's useful, and self-made, and even recycling, so a nice thing to bring). 2019-03-12 09-10-01 PDT Moini Others may also know more about the city tour part, how it usually worked. 2019-01-15 14-22-59 PST Moini I know! 2019-03-12 09-14-35 PDT Moini I'd wait with the asking until I know if there's a space for us, of course. I think Aude wll reply very soon, so we know where we stand space-wise. 2019-01-08 11-02-46 PST Moini Created an entry for the 0.92.4 release on the website: https://inkscape.org/admin/releases/release/182/change/ 2019-12-03 11-56-53 PST Moini Wow. 2019-10-01 08-02-14 PDT Moini It's great that you were able to meet up with them, and even got a short tour along les Champs Élysées :D Half a board meeting, almost, in what seems to be a very nice setting. 2019-12-03 11-46-33 PST Moini What I think is that at some point the two of you should meet and talk. 2019-01-15 14-52-28 PST Moini It does not make any sense to work in the releases interface just yet 2018-11-17 13-36-08 PST Moini Have you told Marc? 2019-01-15 14-59-34 PST Moini If it can be used, please exchange the signature file. If it can't, you could use a hash instead. 2019-12-14 16-46-59 PST Moini Hi Bryce - would you still like to vote on the About Screen for 1.0? I'm missing your vote... Also Josh's and Ted's ... 2019-01-16 07-38-11 PST Moini He just fixed it, right the minute I went to ask about it. 2019-01-16 07-18-23 PST Moini 7. Ask everyone to try it out at least once. 2019-02-22 11-03-05 PST Moini Thank you. 2020-03-21 15-22-55 PDT Moini What was the problem that caused it to fail? 2019-05-11 15-16-52 PDT Moini I would blame people for being upset with you :) It's not something you can influence, and I know you wanted to come. 2019-01-15 15-00-30 PST Moini Yes, that makes sense. 2019-04-02 13-37-38 PDT Moini Yes, multiple may be possible. Me neither :-( 2018-10-11 18-43-09 PDT Moini (was referring to the temporary part) 2020-11-16 13-31-10 PST Moini If anything, we're missing you... but you're not there, and rarely respond :/ 2020-01-02 05-29-42 PST Moini Ah, that's good. This partially restores my belief in post services :) Good that customs didn't open it and tried to evaluate the Kopano license - which is worthless for us, but worth a lot in theory. 2018-10-11 18-36-49 PDT Moini :rainbow: :rocket: 2018-10-11 18-53-47 PDT Moini You should be :) 2018-10-11 18-46-56 PDT Moini I hope it's not too far? 2018-12-08 12-29-07 PST Moini Didn't someone talk about setting up a nextcloud or something? 2019-12-03 12-26-25 PST Moini Also the other way around, for others. 2019-12-03 12-27-59 PST Moini Yeah, sorry. I'll try to be more verbose. 2019-01-14 17-12-51 PST Moini Complexity is much higher than you'd think. 2019-09-30 07-52-09 PDT Moini Yep, he said it's fixed a couple days ago, and we just tried it out for translators, and it works :) 2019-12-03 12-05-38 PST Moini I see you as one of the super-human sized founders, I don't think you can ever lose that. 2019-06-17 15-15-39 PDT Moini Yes, changing school and losing friends can be hard (I didn't like it much...). What is it that makes Astoria so interesting for you? (I don't know the place at all, sounds like a hotel to me, lol). 2018-12-08 12-36-53 PST Moini Didn't Jabier even put something like that up?... Or was he only talking about it...? 2019-01-09 16-18-34 PST Moini It's back, and I put one for 1.0 alpha in, too. https://inkscape.org/admin/releases/release/ 2019-12-03 11-41-30 PST Moini I'm not an expert there, unfortunately. 2020-04-04 14-52-47 PDT Moini Hi Bryce, we've set the release date for 1.0 to May 1st today (if nothing horrible crops up) - I hope you'll be able to be there? :fingers_crossed: Not for doing any work, if you can't or don't want to... but just to be there. 2019-12-03 11-53-41 PST Moini Mmh - I didn't know we were basically sponsored by Samsung. 2020-04-29 18-32-45 PDT Moini So much going on... have a good evening! 2019-09-05 04-04-51 PDT Moini But yeah... maybe instead of feeling bad you could ask someone else to have a look? Just post a message to the chat. We can try to 'boost' it, to increase chances someone who can help reads it. 2019-01-14 16-56-43 PST Moini With all the translations etc. 2019-05-11 15-03-11 PDT Moini I think having a job is worth it :) 2019-05-11 15-21-28 PDT Moini And that even though you once said you didn't especially like being at Hackfests and travelling so far (if I understood that correctly then) - so coming would have been quite a gift to the project. Hearing you regret that you can't come is even sadder with that in mind. Not sure if you understand what I mean ... It's a bit convoluted :) 2019-01-15 15-14-34 PST Moini The missing category in the upload form was because you weren't an 'Uploader' group member. You are now. (and I am, too for that appimage) 2019-06-17 15-45-00 PDT Moini Ah :) Here there are places that collect them, for ... I have no clue, some kind of recycling. For example at the library they have an extra box to collect corks. 2019-08-10 11-03-21 PDT Moini Yep, he is. All is well :) 2019-04-02 13-14-38 PDT Moini I hope they'll find their accountant, looks like they want to improve on the processes. 2018-10-11 18-27-38 PDT Moini :) 2019-12-03 12-14-01 PST Moini Yes, so that's probably the reason. 2019-12-03 12-40-06 PST Moini Have a good week, and I hope you had a good long holiday weekend, too. 2019-01-15 14-40-51 PST Moini And it's not going to be available for the releases app. 2019-01-14 15-25-57 PST Moini I just need to know for putting it into releases app on the website. 2019-12-03 12-16-23 PST Moini That's a lot. 2019-09-05 04-13-53 PDT Moini (I know your rules for employment are much more in favor of the employer than the employee in the US... It's the other way around here, generations of people have fought for that.) 2019-11-23 08-11-57 PST Moini Please? 2019-04-02 14-02-18 PDT Moini I'm glad for you, I think it's good to have that kind of support. 2018-12-08 12-29-13 PST Moini That has calendars, too. 2019-01-15 14-35-05 PST Moini Okay, thanks. 2020-04-11 07-47-29 PDT Moini Hi :) Not sure if I'm maybe only annoying you, as the only reaction I got to that last post above was your removal of yourself from being the 'projects' assignee on launchpad. Hope all is well with you and your family, Bryce. Have a good Easter weekend :rabbit: :tulip: 2019-04-02 13-55-29 PDT Moini Ah, that's the job you showed me the ad for? 2019-06-17 15-35-12 PDT Moini (dict.leo.org helped) 2019-06-17 15-07-18 PDT Moini What's 'siding'? 2019-02-05 17-04-45 PST Moini I think the year begins from the time of listing (that's part of the perks description). If they want it. 2019-06-17 15-02-34 PDT Moini Quite a setup! Probably makes working remotely like you do a lot easier. 2019-01-15 14-50-10 PST Moini Just follow the steps, then I know where you are and can guide you. 2019-05-11 15-02-24 PDT Moini :-( 2019-12-03 11-55-30 PST Moini Who is 'they'? SFC? 2018-11-17 13-38-37 PST Moini Yes, I saw you mention something a couple of days ago, and thought it had to do with this. 2019-04-12 15-02-33 PDT Moini @bryce Should we update the news articles? (i.e. https://inkscape.org/news/2018/12/06/vectorstock-now-inkscape-platinum-spon… , https://inkscape.org/news/2017/09/13/private-internet-access-sponsors-inksc… ) (referring to http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php?title=Fundraising_Ideas&curid=24866…) 2020-07-21 11-12-54 PDT Moini Hi Bryce, I've been reading about so much going on in Portland currently. I hope all is well with you and your family! 2018-12-23 16-08-11 PST Moini Do they have open jobs? (Wondering because of Ted) 2019-12-03 11-29-27 PST Moini It's because he has been asking for access to the mail server for a couple months already. 2019-12-03 11-44-11 PST Moini I do not think he would ever lock you out. 2019-05-11 15-29-26 PDT Moini (and this sounds like the job is going to last, too :- ) ) 2019-05-11 15-02-51 PDT Moini It's not your fault. 2019-01-05 10-21-13 PST Moini Yes, that would make sense. 2019-03-12 09-24-09 PDT Moini Only we could have a problem with space. Aude said we could have a 'small room' during LGM, but I don't know what 'small' means. I'll ask her. 2019-12-03 12-28-48 PST Moini I've found that the search works remarkably well. 2019-01-16 10-15-49 PST Moini flatpak: still to do 2019-04-02 13-56-09 PDT Moini (a couple weeks ago) 2019-12-03 11-47-33 PST Moini (I don't know if that's what he wants) 2019-06-17 15-52-26 PDT Moini :wave: 2018-11-17 13-54-48 PST Moini Let me know when that meeting will be, please. - Yes, I know, I hope we'll get some people to help. Michèle writes excellently, I think Canadian Thanksgiving is already over. 2018-11-17 13-37-06 PST Moini *gulp* 2019-01-15 14-26-02 PST Moini Choose Private, I will change it. 2019-12-03 11-32-24 PST Moini I hope not. 2019-01-15 19-38-40 PST Moini Good night, Bryce. I'm sorry, I think I wasn't very nice with you today. It was all so frustrating for me today ... I might skip the next release. Take care and good night! 2019-01-28 05-20-51 PST Moini I think of that task as one of the two main tasks of the Inkscape board. Finances and legal. That's what the board members volunteered for, right? So, we already have a group for that. https://inkscape.org/about/governance/board-duties/ 2019-04-02 13-19-58 PDT Moini What will be after this week that makes it 'back to square one'? 2019-12-03 12-15-13 PST Moini I like that we can fund hackfests. 2019-06-17 15-24-41 PDT Moini I haven't given up yet. 2019-02-05 18-58-22 PST Moini FOSDEM and copyleft conf are over now. They are probably on their way home, or they do a bit of touristing in Belgium. 2019-01-16 10-13-05 PST Moini snap is out already. 2019-12-03 11-48-13 PST Moini But it's not how it is, and not how it's going to be in the future I foresee. 2019-06-17 15-28-51 PDT Moini mmmmh :) 2019-01-15 14-36-31 PST Moini I don't think that's the issue. I'll look first change the category, I have the link to your tarball. Wait a moment! 2019-05-11 15-01-21 PDT Moini It's quite far away, I wouldn't have been surprised if you had said that you won't come from the start. 2018-10-11 18-33-40 PDT Moini Yes, moving with the family is difficult. Whoa, that's an impressive interview list :) 2019-01-14 17-03-49 PST Moini Download + instructions. 2019-12-03 12-19-46 PST Moini (and I wouldn't expect anyone who invests time to invest money in addition.) Yes, you've done that well, from the beginning. 2020-04-29 18-30-09 PDT Moini (Michèle said she was hoping for a reply from you, and went to look right away ;-) ) 2019-12-03 12-10-40 PST Moini There's one other thing that I know is bothering him. 2019-12-03 11-41-07 PST Moini Mmmh. At least part of the mailing lists is. 2019-11-06 08-02-32 PST Moini Not sure how, but we need some better spam control for the user mailing list. 2019-01-14 17-12-16 PST Moini And that changes, from release to release, with availability of people, and technical progress.. 2019-01-16 10-22-45 PST Moini Friday evening, that is. 2019-01-16 07-27-57 PST Moini And no, it's not your fault. It is what it is. And we can try to improve it. The above is not meant as 'you did this wrong' but as 'this could help make it work better'. 2019-04-02 13-50-11 PDT Moini Something for the strategists and long-term planners :) 2020-03-08 09-35-06 PDT Moini Thank you Bryce. Are you doing okay? (sorry, I know you said you didn't want to have to spend time on explaining things - I'd just like to know if everything is alright... no longish explanations needed) 2019-06-17 15-21-46 PDT Moini Yes, I just looked it up on Wikipedia :) (I rather remember the No. 5 and Free Willy films, though) Looks nice, with the woods around and the small size. 2019-03-12 09-16-53 PDT Moini What I mean is, I will need that decision quickly, as some may already have asked for days off etc. 2019-12-03 11-37-14 PST Moini I know ... 2019-01-05 09-15-26 PST Moini @bryce Can those email aliases be used by multiple people? Or is it one per person? 2019-01-15 14-22-56 PST Moini It's not command line compatible.... 2019-01-15 14-59-49 PST Moini I'm not entirely sure how it works though. 2018-10-11 18-38-04 PDT Moini I hope things will relax for you a bit soon. 2019-01-14 16-56-37 PST Moini It's going to be a very long file. 2019-03-21 15-27-21 PDT Moini Oh, no doubt about that. It's not easy, and probably much harder still when you've got a family and kids to think about. I think you're doing it very well, though, looking closely at it from all angles, and preparing for the interviews even by jumping into the unknown depths of javascript user interfaces. 2019-06-17 15-25-47 PDT Moini Shadow is ugh, though. 2019-12-03 11-52-47 PST Moini What did he say? 2019-03-25 11-25-01 PDT Moini Thank you :) 2019-01-16 09-57-35 PST Moini Ah, probably I can find it myself then. 2020-03-20 06-36-21 PDT Moini (https://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/2020-03-06.log) 2019-05-11 15-05-06 PDT Moini I'll be back in a minute, sorry. 2019-02-05 09-57-08 PST Moini Hope that was okay, also tagged Marc. 2018-10-11 18-51-24 PDT Moini And wife? 2019-01-15 14-22-22 PST Moini Then, click on the picture icon in the top right corner. 2019-01-14 17-22-00 PST Moini But then... you mean to strip the releases app of most of its parts? Or do you mean to do part per yaml, part manually? 2020-03-21 15-34-21 PDT Moini Thanks! 2019-01-14 17-01-36 PST Moini And knowing how unreliably website cron jobs work... 2019-12-03 11-46-51 PST Moini For me to mediate, you're both a bit too 'big'. 2019-12-03 11-51-24 PST Moini The thing is that I like both of you quite well. I'd love to see if if you get on. Both of you confided in me, at times. What I know is that you're both quite human, and really wanting well for the project. 2019-01-03 08-47-44 PST Moini Just saw your board email for Pasadena - couldn't suppress a grin when I saw people voted for option a - "Reimburse specific attendees listed below for up to $2000 each, to cover airfare, lodging, and meals." - when there were no attendees listed below... Either they didn't read, or they didn't bother asking. 2020-11-11 13-18-52 PST Moini What makes you think that's the case? Has anything happened? 2019-01-15 14-23-15 PST Moini :-) 2019-12-03 11-40-50 PST Moini Yeah, it's always going to be imperfect. 2019-01-05 12-39-39 PST Moini (I think...) 2019-06-17 15-09-21 PDT Moini lol - seems to be nice from the inside, though (on the little I saw, you took care to make it look nice) 2018-10-11 18-35-43 PDT Moini Yes, the CC thing sounds like it would be fulfilling. 2019-01-16 09-58-58 PST Moini Thank you!!! 2019-06-17 15-08-45 PDT Moini Ah. 2019-11-23 08-16-08 PST Moini Thank you! 2019-12-02 13-13-39 PST Moini Thanks! 2018-10-11 18-52-45 PDT Moini Cool kids. 2019-01-14 16-33-48 PST Moini Seems there isn't yet an AppImage for 0.92.4, so a flatpak could be good... 2019-06-17 15-26-48 PDT Moini Lots of work. 2019-01-16 09-56-50 PST Moini Hehe, it's seven p.m. here. Evening! Where is it? 2019-12-03 12-02-07 PST Moini Yeah, I know ... 2019-10-18 18-10-36 PDT Moini So it did look a bit like we were left alone. 2019-12-03 11-31-53 PST Moini I don't think anyone knew that, and we haven't seen him for much longer than we haven't seen you ;-) 2019-01-14 15-24-52 PST Moini Will there be a separate ppa for alpha? I asked Mc, and he didn't seem to have an issue with just using the 'master' ppa. 2019-01-16 10-03-05 PST Moini So, news are working. 2019-12-03 12-14-19 PST Moini I mean the reason why it's not shared. 2018-12-03 09-58-36 PST Moini @bryce the feature isn't new, only the preferences setting has changed. https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blame/master/src/preferences-skeleton.… How are you doing? 2019-12-03 12-23-53 PST Moini I personally suck at it. 2019-04-02 13-22-01 PDT Moini Ah, okay, I understand. 2019-01-15 14-49-46 PST Moini Sorry I'm being really blunt, but it's late and I've had half-answers from lots of people all day long. 2018-10-11 18-51-17 PDT Moini You're going to have dinner with your kids? 2019-12-03 11-35-38 PST Moini 3 lists is enough. 2019-04-02 14-01-14 PDT Moini They know what the others are good at doing. 2019-01-16 10-22-24 PST Moini I'm only not available on Friday. 2019-01-14 17-07-17 PST Moini You could do a db dump of the releases app, for fun, to see what's in it. That would need to be put in the yaml file. 2019-01-14 16-56-26 PST Moini Oh... 2019-11-18 06-31-50 PST Moini Can you please remove my mod status for devel? I can't do it myself. 2019-02-05 18-57-33 PST Moini [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/bryce?msg=pKFdaxErddZmQeCKT) I had thought that was what you meant, lol :) () 2019-09-06 14-05-54 PDT Moini That does sound tough and exhausting, indeed. Yes, sometimes it's a question of getting used to things, and sometimes, the demands change and become less. Hope you'll have a good day tomorrow, with the birthday :) 2019-01-15 15-02-03 PST Moini What would you like to do? It's a choice between black death and cholera (as we say in German) 2019-11-17 18-42-07 PST Moini Thanks :) 2019-12-03 12-00-56 PST Moini That does not mean that you haven't done good work in setting them up and making us independent of questionable third-party. 2019-02-05 09-56-56 PST Moini Tagged you on github, for a question about the newline crash on Fedora/with the flatpak. 2019-01-15 15-16-16 PST Moini Bildschirmfoto_2019-01-16_00-15-59.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/rpDukgd2wmv5Bc5on/Bildschirmfoto_2019…) 2019-01-16 10-14-57 PST Moini Windows store: unknown, Mc will take care of it (or maybe already did) 2020-07-26 08-15-14 PDT Moini Ah, so it's almost a 'planned riot', in the nights... that part is not so smart ... Ha, I thought you'd probably be involved with the peaceful protest, hence I was worried a bit and asked in the first place. Food and hygiene are always good :) And not distinguishing between whom to help sounds good, too. People were pretty fast and creative in making use of those blocking walls in a better way :) 2019-01-15 14-40-28 PST Moini Else it is not going to be cached by fastly. 2019-01-15 14-27-36 PST Moini Website news aren't working properly, we cannot read the articles... 2019-10-18 18-02-45 PDT Moini If that hadn't been available, though, we'd have had a problem. 2019-02-05 19-13-20 PST Moini I had been planning to do some friendly reminding and maybe to kick off a meeting last week ... But then had to work on something else. 2018-11-11 13-53-19 PST Moini Ah, wrong channel here. I wanted to ask in general.... 2019-08-29 05-36-27 PDT Moini Hi Bryce! Now that you've got the award thing, I remembered that I still have the framed certificate we got at the Univention summit (and that silly Kopano license, too). I'd like to mail those to you. Can you please give me your address (it's probably the one I saw somewhere in the source code or on the contract with SFC, but who knows), if you'd like to have them? 2020-09-05 16-01-24 PDT Moini Hi Bryce! Wow, I've just been reading that Portland still is tumultous... and then a week ago or so, that news about environmentalists being worried about the tear gas in the water - man, that sounds weird to my ears. As you haven't replied about the infra/chat server issue for some time, but only said something about not being available last week, and as I haven't seen you online anywhere, also not at the board meeting, is everything okay? 2018-10-11 18-57-50 PDT Moini Thank you! I'd like to wish that to you, too, but I think it might be difficult - still, sleep as well as possible, under the circumstances! 2019-12-03 11-32-20 PST Moini I don't know if there are any ulterior motives. 2019-04-27 17-28-08 PDT Moini Nice :) I'm wishing you a good start next week! 2019-01-15 14-39-39 PST Moini Yes, I know, repeatedly. 2019-04-02 14-00-11 PDT Moini It's good that the co-workers are still there, I imagine they're all in the same boat. 2019-01-16 10-03-14 PST Moini Your signature does not. 2019-01-15 15-15-31 PST Moini I don't know. 2019-02-22 10-59-26 PST Moini Sorry about that, Bryce, but Mac or not - if someone isn't willing to cooperate, then I'm not going to invest any more time into them. 2019-12-03 11-39-37 PST Moini I'd be opposed to those two. 2019-01-14 15-23-09 PST Moini @bryce Did you also contact Mathias Vogelsang (or Vogelgesang) about the flatpak? 2019-05-11 15-29-36 PDT Moini So it's going okay at Canonical? 2019-01-15 14-58-14 PST Moini Have you changed it out of necessity? Or can the old one still be used? 2019-05-11 15-44-12 PDT Moini I hope it's going to go well. And of course, I hope that after finding your way back in, and into the new stuff, you'll not be spending your evenings in an exhausted, overworked state, but will have some time for Inkscape. You're new on that job, it's going to take some time until you reach that point, I expect. 2019-01-14 16-57-48 PST Moini So the releases app would go away? 2019-01-05 12-39-05 PST Moini One other thing to check out for a release: does the up-to-date documentation get pulled in automagically? I think it needs to be retrieved manually, but I'm not sure - it's something Patrick has done, too. 2019-12-03 12-08-11 PST Moini People trust you and will always take your judgement into account. They know you're considerate and careful and very good at mediating conflict. 2020-04-29 18-27-22 PDT Moini Thank you, Bryce - I'll let Michèle know that there's something new. It looks like the concept is now to have spin-off interviews, though, so she might at some point get back to you with some more questions to fill the rest of the article. 2019-08-10 09-35-25 PDT Moini Bryce, do you know if Marc is on holidays? (I suppose he is) 2019-01-15 14-40-15 PST Moini It needs to be ON the website. 2019-12-03 11-59-44 PST Moini But the spam is indeed a bit annoying. 2019-10-18 18-05-16 PDT Moini But there weren't many board members present. 2019-10-18 06-41-59 PDT Moini Your package will still take a while. Our post service has a dreadful form checker for the customs declaration on their website... It seems it cannot sum up 0.1 + 0.1 +0.4 ... had to contact customer service. 2018-12-08 12-37-15 PST Moini Mihaela and Jabier will know that. 2019-09-05 04-12-55 PDT Moini It looks to me as if they're 'decorating themselves' with the cool names, and then take the things from them that define those people. Don't you have working time directives in the US? 2018-10-11 18-46-08 PDT Moini Good. 2019-02-05 19-07-36 PST Moini As far as I know, we don't have any concrete plans, except for... finding someone who can work on it. We have that mac-dev group here, where all of the possible people are gathered, but they seem to need someone to start organizing them (or maybe they all aren't as interested as they seemed at first). 2020-03-11 10-27-30 PDT Moini [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/bryce?msg=3Dp8s7bT6scFoBu2q) Thank you, Bryce! Going to ask Marc for the March one. () 2020-04-29 18-32-25 PDT Moini Ah, seems it will become part of an introductory article to the series ;-) 2019-01-14 17-00-28 PST Moini I don't really get what you're imagining, probably. 2019-06-17 15-34-31 PDT Moini Very useful, seems everyone in the family got their own ... uhm... compartment. 2019-11-17 18-45-47 PST Moini Need to go now - and thanks again :) 2019-01-16 07-14-43 PST Moini Here are some ideas to make it smoother: 1. Give it a 1 or two more days between publishing the source and the announcement, then maybe others have time to eat and sleep. 2. Take care that everyone involved is available when they'll be needed (i.e. include Martin!) 3. A couple of days before the release, do a test run on the website. We discovered lots of unknown issues. 4. Make lists, and stick to them. 2019-12-03 12-38-35 PST Moini Glad it worked (not a hidden agenda here :) ). 2019-01-15 14-57-57 PST Moini Mmh. Updating will probably break it for any previous uploads. 2019-01-14 16-55-47 PST Moini Probably I will upload it in the end... 2019-12-03 11-42-39 PST Moini That's annoying... 2019-02-05 19-20-05 PST Moini I am thinking that the task is too large for any single dev, but for some reason, they don't start coordinating on their own. Maybe they don't know that there are multiple people interested in helping, or what their abilities are for it. 2019-03-12 09-09-08 PDT Moini Possible - where should I ask to find that out? 2019-06-17 15-46-39 PDT Moini Ah, yes. 2020-11-07 06-12-30 PST Moini Ryan messaged Tim, asking him to head the meeting today, and Tim shared the info on the Vectors channel. I don't know more than this: "Hi everyone, Ryan won't be with us for a while. There has been a death in the family. Ryan, his wife and their children need time to grieve. I know you will all join me in passing on our deepest condolences to Ryan and his family. Ryan has asked me to host the coming Vectors meeting. I know you will all join me in filling in for Ryan where we can. " 2019-05-11 15-01-51 PDT Moini I was surprised when you added your name to the 'maybe list' 2019-01-15 14-54-36 PST Moini Thank you. 2019-10-18 17-56-25 PDT Moini I suggested he should send a message to the board mailing list, to get input, but he seems to be waiting for a reply from you instead. 2018-11-17 13-55-19 PST Moini Take care! 2018-12-23 16-28-37 PST Moini To you, too :) 2019-01-14 16-54-20 PST Moini Okay, so this is what I have collected so far: 2018-10-11 18-19-18 PDT Moini Oh no!!!!! :-/ 2019-01-16 10-03-37 PST Moini Don't know the status of the deb package. 2019-01-14 16-55-06 PST Moini Patrick will take care of Win builds, and also add them to the releases app (yay! One thing less on the list :) ) 2019-01-07 16-13-53 PST Moini Btw. who will read the emails from contact(a)inkscape.org? I think there was nobody who volunteered for the sponsor management, but I may remember that incorrectly. 2018-12-03 14-12-37 PST Moini Your mom is lucky to have you and your family to take care of her. 2019-01-16 10-07-48 PST Moini Some change in django that required setting permissions manually (or, in other words, Martin read up the documentation). 2019-11-17 18-39-17 PST Moini Yeah? 2019-06-17 15-52-16 PDT Moini Hi Zoë! 2019-06-17 15-49-43 PDT Moini I have some of mine online: https://vektorrascheln.de/pages/crafting.html There's nothing like a bookshelf in your favorite color that you helped painting yourself :) I bet she'll like it a lot, and also that her father made it for her. 2018-10-11 18-21-17 PDT Moini Yes, that's true. 2019-12-03 12-17-11 PST Moini Lol, not good. 2018-12-23 16-18-34 PST Moini So you left kind of pre-emptively, looking mostly for security, if I get that right. 2019-01-15 14-47-55 PST Moini Same as before? 2019-04-02 13-24-32 PDT Moini Except that it had to do with graphics. 2019-04-02 12-34-05 PDT Moini The fun thing is, they always reply to the pre-previous email... Their system seems to be really borked. 2019-02-05 19-16-32 PST Moini Martin is doing the welcoming in that group. He seems to know quite a bit, too. 2019-04-27 13-53-08 PDT Moini This is so cool to read! I'm happy for you, Bryce, so glad the search is over, and this does sound much better than the cloud stuff :) May 1st :) We have a saying here that goes 'Alles neu macht der Mai' - 'May renews everything', good omen for a start :) Will you always be working from home? 2019-05-01 16-51-05 PDT Moini How was your 'first day'? 2019-03-12 09-22-50 PDT Moini We still can, I guess. 2019-01-14 15-23-27 PST Moini (having an AppImage, that won't be a drama, just asking) 2020-03-21 15-34-52 PDT Moini I'll relay the info to Mc, so he knows why it didn't work. 2019-04-02 13-18-07 PDT Moini Ouch. 2019-01-14 16-55-36 PST Moini An AppImage will be done for the alpha, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get that on the page. 2019-01-14 17-51-35 PST Moini Good night, Bryce! And thank you, too :-) The project got a lot done this last year. Many big and small improvments. And now the tracker, soon the lists.... It's getting rejuvenated. ::seedling: 2019-01-15 14-52-09 PST Moini Then I will verify it's uploaded and can put it into the correct category. 2019-12-03 11-38-17 PST Moini I know. 2019-01-15 14-52-41 PST Moini Step 1 before step 100. 2018-10-11 18-31-36 PDT Moini I hope that whereever you'll end up, they won't cage you in like google does with KK ;-) So, you're already a bit prepared, that's good. 2018-12-23 16-15-52 PST Moini :) 2019-12-03 12-09-37 PST Moini Yes, that'll help. It's not as if writing such a thing can't be done by the person who wants it. 2018-10-11 18-28-51 PDT Moini Do you know what he's doing now? 2019-02-05 19-05-20 PST Moini Yes, it's a lot. 2019-06-17 16-02-09 PDT Moini Quite athletic you are, Zoë! (I always need to copy that e, lol) 2019-01-15 14-39-24 PST Moini Bryce, you didn't upload it... 2019-04-02 13-33-54 PDT Moini I'm only thinking it, because I'd have no idea where to start. 2019-01-16 10-02-54 PST Moini Ah, sorry. Typed faster than I could read. 2020-04-29 18-29-41 PDT Moini Btw., from the contributor interview replies, it looks as if your founding principle worked, there are lots of people saying that that's what they like about the project and what motivates them to contribute. 2019-11-17 18-47-36 PST Moini Better to spread it a bit. 2019-02-05 09-55-46 PST Moini Or squeeze, rather. 2018-11-17 13-44-08 PST Moini (if you have the time, just so I know: what will this involve doing?) 2019-02-05 16-54-32 PST Moini Sorry, I don't even know what glowforge is... 2019-12-03 11-37-42 PST Moini I see the difference between user and the other two lists. On user I have more permissions. 2019-05-11 15-00-01 PDT Moini Why would I be upset with you? 2019-01-14 16-57-21 PST Moini And all the hints, and different links, from different sources. 2018-10-11 18-50-53 PDT Moini But it's okay. 2019-10-18 18-09-53 PDT Moini Not sure, but maybe get a discussion going on the board list? So people know you're there and are alive? Not even SFC replied to the 'we need a new website cert' email. 2018-10-11 18-49-22 PDT Moini What time is it now? 2019-09-30 07-55-40 PDT Moini I've got my online banking set up now (the cheap international stamps for small packages are only available online...) so I'll be able to send your package soon. Anything else (small, thin) I should put in? Some stickers, maybe? 2019-12-03 11-42-10 PST Moini But he does manage our servers well enough, so I'd think he'd be able to fix it, and if he offers to, let him! We need all the help we can get. 2019-10-18 18-01-10 PDT Moini Good :) 2019-01-14 13-46-48 PST Moini Or it could even be doctormo(a)gmail.com... Yes, the sponsor requests used Martin's private email address. Last one is from mid November, so it's unlikely there has been a change. So that explains why it wasn't possible to share (without email aliases and a mailing list). 2019-12-03 12-23-37 PST Moini It's impossible to mind-read. The only way to know is to ask, and to trust that the reply is honest. Which is not an easy thing to do. 2019-12-03 11-35-50 PST Moini There are more people who can help, and we shuld let them. 2019-06-17 15-39-48 PDT Moini You mean, someone who drinks all the wine ;-) ? 2018-10-11 18-43-30 PDT Moini I hope so, too. 2019-04-02 13-27-29 PDT Moini But the project still exists? (I mean, as far as I have read, Firefox is using cairo for rendering?) 2019-01-14 16-58-08 PST Moini But the data then still needs to be filled in. 2020-07-24 17-28-14 PDT Moini Good that you're okay! Yes, our media were mostly focusing on federal police apparently escalating the situation, instead of the opposite. Arresting people from unmarked cars, which made it sound like something that would rather fit into South America in times of Pinochet... They also had pictures and stories about the moms, and lately about tear gas. Stay safe! (just clicked the website, and it said something about a heat warning... not a good combo. I'd offer to take on some of the warmth if that were possible, it's super cold here for July.) 2019-12-03 12-27-12 PST Moini But I'm also guilty of doing that myself... 2019-05-11 15-34-23 PDT Moini And the memory comes back of all the little things, too. 2020-09-14 15-02-38 PDT Moini That's good, what a relief that it's under control now. I've seen some photos, it really looks spooky with the glowing sky and hills. Yes, there has been a lot going on in your town and country lately :/ Wish I could send you some fresh air (with a tinge of cow and horse, lol) - but I guess you'll need to wait for the rain to wash yours clean. 2019-01-16 10-05-03 PST Moini The spreadshirt and SCALE fundraiser news are out. 2019-12-03 12-12-41 PST Moini :) 2019-01-15 15-00-04 PST Moini I think it's the file name extension that defines what is used for evaluation. 2019-01-14 17-06-07 PST Moini Not that it doesn't sound useful, but I think the complexity and amount of stuff that is there and needs to be coordinated is too high for that. 2019-01-14 17-03-36 PST Moini Which has both. 2019-04-02 13-52-10 PDT Moini That sounds good! 2019-04-02 13-13-49 PDT Moini Have you met at SCaLE? 2018-12-23 16-20-37 PST Moini heh, no, you can't be responsible for each and every one :) 2019-01-16 08-43-08 PST Moini @bryce Do you still have that script that turns release notes into plain text? We could use it for http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.92.4 . 2019-10-18 18-04-44 PDT Moini Nothing specific, I think, just a general worry about leadership tasks being delayed currently. During the board meeting, he called that 'canonicalized', but didn't get much feedback. 2019-04-02 13-30-03 PDT Moini Ah, thanks for explaining. 2019-12-03 11-39-09 PST Moini Yes. 2019-05-11 15-13-50 PDT Moini (sorry, I keep wondering why you'd think I'm upset with you... I know I was quite direct at the meeting today, but that was because I wanted to get things done, not postpone them again - and it worked. Maybe not the optimal solution, but at least a solution. That, as well as the question about if it was intentional that the manual didn't end up on the projects list, didn't have anything to do with you. It was really just a question, could have been there was a deeper reason, beyond 'needs some actual content'.) 2019-01-14 17-11-50 PST Moini And I really don't want to write that manually - we have so much that depends on other table contents. 2019-01-16 10-09-13 PST Moini I posted below. Martin knows there's something not right with it, but I don't know where the reason could be - me uploading, your keys not being correct (maybe), or the website being broken. 2018-12-03 14-18-09 PST Moini I'm good. Slow, sleeping too long, trying to cross of items on my list each day, as good as I can :) 2019-01-16 09-25-01 PST Moini @bryce What are your plans for publishing the release / announcements / etc.? 2019-12-03 11-59-24 PST Moini It's an exaggeration. 2019-12-03 11-37-00 PST Moini People have been nagging since the lists have been opened officially. 2019-09-05 04-08-52 PDT Moini You've taken care of that in advance. 2019-05-11 15-28-14 PDT Moini Cool! Well done! 2019-06-17 15-40-56 PDT Moini I guess it's more a holder for the corks. 2018-12-08 12-38-04 PST Moini No idea :) I didn't have a mobile phone then, and didn't use any outside services. 2019-12-03 12-33-55 PST Moini Yes, I think it does. Need to check... 2019-12-03 11-47-24 PST Moini Well, we can't all have what we want, can we?... 2019-06-17 15-51-53 PDT Moini My next project is the bathroom cabinet, which is going to look like one of these: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hummerbuden_suedlich_Hafenstrasse10… 2019-09-05 04-11-02 PDT Moini I wish I could kick Canonical really hard for what they seem to be asking from you... 2019-01-14 17-01-51 PST Moini And how often we need to update the data after a release... 2019-04-02 13-15-52 PDT Moini Seems their lawsuit in Hamburg is coming to a conclusion, so they might have more time now. Lol, at least the names sound efficient :robot: 2019-04-02 12-33-24 PDT Moini I'm not happy with SFC... 14, 64€ for 279 miles, at a rate of 0.14 $ /mile? Unless they use a different rate, that's not what my calculator says. 2019-04-02 13-12-40 PDT Moini Not your fault... 2020-09-09 15-26-09 PDT Moini Oh,... Please take care, Bryce, and when you need to evacuate and you get a chance to do so, let us know that you and your family are safe. We don't need more than a sentence or two. Hope those fires will be under control soon. 2019-10-18 18-06-53 PDT Moini Or before ... but that time between was great for Inkscape. 2019-06-17 15-39-31 PDT Moini A production system? 2018-10-11 18-54-13 PDT Moini I didn't like sports, either. 2018-10-11 18-56-57 PDT Moini But... I need to go to bed now, @bryce. I hope your family will return soon. 2018-10-11 18-23-13 PDT Moini No, I only read about the Inkspace thing in the one public email about it. 2019-01-15 15-01-28 PST Moini Use a hash instead. 2019-01-15 14-47-48 PST Moini Link, please. 2020-11-09 05-54-27 PST Moini Bryce, btw., what was that with fearing that we're going to run a bus over you during the board meeting? Has anything happened? 2019-01-15 14-51-18 PST Moini I feel like I'm being tested on user support here... This is one of the ways to get there, yes. 2019-12-03 12-16-59 PST Moini Oooh. That's a bit uncomfortable, I guess. 2019-12-03 11-40-18 PST Moini It's django. I think Martin can help there. 2018-11-17 13-39-31 PST Moini Yes, he can rely on me for this. 2019-04-12 16-23-42 PDT Moini Thanks! I assumed you'd say that, but wanted to be sure. 2019-04-02 13-29-26 PDT Moini It's easy to forget that with the 'limited interest' of the companies :-/ 2019-06-17 15-46-34 PDT Moini That's huge (I think) 2019-10-18 18-12-38 PDT Moini I'm not really clear what he wants exactly, but maybe it's better to find that out. 2019-02-05 17-02-51 PST Moini Okay, so they count as expiring for you :) 2019-01-15 14-55-54 PST Moini Category and thumbnail are fixed. Signature is broken. 2018-12-23 15-58-38 PST Moini Ah :-( Seems to have been something you were really interested in, if you took on a longer ride just to get there. I hope there will be something better in store for you next year. As it's already Christmas here (the 24th is the 'main Christmas day' in Germany), I'm already wishing you a good Christmas with your kids and wife. Probably not so easy, but I hope you can get a break from all the recent stress a bit with it. 2019-08-10 11-04-55 PDT Moini Have a good weekend! 2019-01-27 15-42-07 PST Moini I hope they won't go public with this. 2019-03-12 09-29-00 PDT Moini Need to go, see you later - thank you! 2019-02-05 16-59-17 PST Moini Sounds good :) I'd suspect stuff that has to do with extensions, and with units... I think I haven't seen a reply from you about the question I had about adding that other company to the website (the one that is on the Wiki page as a gold sponsor, but doesn't have a hundred percent certain link). Have you tried contacting them? 2018-10-11 18-34-01 PDT Moini But yeah, you're highly qualified. 2019-12-03 11-32-31 PST Moini Naaaaah. 2019-12-03 11-36-19 PST Moini Thank you. 2019-01-15 14-51-25 PST Moini Please give me a link to the upload. 2019-12-03 11-30-59 PST Moini It's not your fault, but you are currently one. 2019-03-12 09-27-54 PDT Moini Asked, let's wait for her responses... For when did you want to schedule that dev meeting? 2019-01-15 14-39-46 PST Moini But I can't help fix that now. 2019-03-12 07-58-02 PDT Moini The problem is this: 1. We knew LGM is from May 29th to June 2nd 2019. 2. So we decided to hold the hackfest on May 27th and May 28th, two days. 3. Now the LGM schedule is out, and basically, there is nothing happening on May 29th, except for a photo tour, and the opening starting at 6 p.m. 4. We have asked for a space for meeting up on the set hackfest days only. So: - should we postpone the hackfest by one day, if there is space available on the 29th? - or should we extend the hackfest by one day, if there is space available? I already asked Aude about the 29th - if they can offer a space for that date, too. 2018-10-11 18-25-11 PDT Moini That's a huge achievement, @bryce 2019-02-05 19-30-06 PST Moini Good, seems you're quite successful attracting them :) I spent my night on finding a new fridge, as ours was causing short-circuits... now we'll have our food outside on the terrace for the next couple of weeks, it's going to be an adventure for us - good it's winter. 2019-04-05 03-55-01 PDT Moini :-( I'm sorry, Bryce. It sounded so good. I wish it had worked out. How are you? 2019-09-05 04-07-26 PDT Moini You have 'staff' for that ;-) 2019-06-17 16-02-27 PDT Moini Guten Appetit! 2018-12-23 16-02-41 PST Moini Not a good fit, then - I think (but don't know for sure, actually) you're more of a low level 2D graphics guy. 2019-10-27 09-57-32 PDT Moini Bryce, does anyone but you have enough privileges on alpha.inkscape.org to put in letsencrypt? https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=6FQ8Kdu7ScgMgbKch () 2019-01-15 10-41-12 PST Moini So it can be served by fastly? 2018-11-11 13-52-48 PST Moini One more question: you wanted the gitlab repo to be linked, right? (because it said 'Mirror of github....' in the description) 2018-11-17 13-37-40 PST Moini Okay. 2019-06-17 15-29-26 PDT Moini (chuckling here) 2019-05-11 15-33-41 PDT Moini That sounds like it's going well, with the expected learning curve. It's good when one already knows some of the people one works with. 2019-01-16 07-35-10 PST Moini So, next most important task: Get Martin to fix the news. Else people won't be able to read the news article. 2019-04-02 14-00-51 PDT Moini So you can still give each other tips. 2019-01-16 07-22-34 PST Moini 9. Make sure that all things that people point out are unclear are cleared up before you start. Or at least most of them. 2019-04-02 13-32-08 PDT Moini I wish you could! 2019-05-11 15-08-42 PDT Moini back. 2019-10-01 04-31-51 PDT Moini Seems everyone caught one, Michèle also just wrote that she's got a cold. Travelling, esp. with that time shift, can be quite exhausting (I had totally forgotten that you've been in France... did you see any of the French Inkscapers?). 2019-11-17 18-40-06 PST Moini Oh. Check out the About screen stuff, that makes you go 'YEAH!' too. 2019-06-17 14-24-11 PDT Moini You made a really beautiful desk - it all fits together perfectly, even with the little old-fashioned lamp. Is it still in use? 2019-01-27 15-41-21 PST Moini Bryce, I think that request and judgement from the lawyer was wrong, and due to her not having the technical knowledge that would have been necessary and not investigating before pressing on. All they seem to do (when one reads their descriptions on their website, it becomes clear) is provide a VNC client (or something very similar) packed into an app, and some docker or whatever instances on their servers, running Inkscape on demand. Yes, of course they were profiting from us. Yes, they made it look (or at least they didn't express it's not so) as if Inkscape were their software, but they said it was GPL, they gave a link, they said it was free... This was wrong. 2019-12-03 11-39-53 PST Moini Definitely to the second one. 2019-04-12 16-25-00 PDT Moini Useful research, thanks for doing that! 2019-01-15 14-56-36 PST Moini I'm not sure why. 2019-06-17 15-23-28 PDT Moini Aha :) With the deer in the garden, eating the roses and the violets and the bird food, one can also find that a bit annoying, lol 2018-12-23 16-22-49 PST Moini The snap packaging part would be okay for you? - Ah, now I understand why you are still wondering if it would be the right thing to choose. 2019-01-15 14-46-26 PST Moini Upload the tarball first. Is it uploaded? 2018-10-11 18-19-29 PDT Moini Rough week indeed. 2019-12-03 12-11-25 PST Moini Which is that for all financial info, we depend on you providing it, as far as I understand. 2019-05-11 16-02-07 PDT Moini Yep :) Have a good time with your daughter! 2018-10-11 18-50-37 PDT Moini Oh my... yes. 2019-12-03 11-34-46 PST Moini Now they can, Mc will be able to spread responsibility a bit. 2019-12-03 11-55-53 PST Moini Oh, both even. 2020-11-18 05-00-35 PST Moini Thanks for the offer! Personally, I'm not currently blocked on anything specific (only slow to reply myself). I know that if I raised some kind of alarm here with you, I'd probably get your attention, which... feels kind of unfair. 2019-06-17 08-24-07 PDT Moini Bryce, hi :) I know you've got a lot to do, but this article is stalled on your approval, and Michèle decided to publish it before she starts to write any other ones: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/content/issues/22#note_179328422 2018-10-11 18-42-19 PDT Moini Yes, you're right with that. 2019-02-05 09-53-40 PST Moini It's what I used normally. 2018-11-17 13-35-36 PST Moini I try to. 2019-02-05 09-51-39 PST Moini You used Tobias Ellinghaus or Tobias Ellinghaus? 2018-10-11 18-49-00 PDT Moini That's good, too. No long travels. 2018-10-11 18-52-36 PDT Moini :) 2019-02-05 09-54-49 PST Moini Hope it works! 2018-10-11 18-40-16 PDT Moini You're talking of weather and earthquakes? ( I think there was something about a very strong hurricane...) 2019-01-14 14-07-34 PST Moini Your patience seems to pay out :) It was a long process with the mailman. Np. I'm not sure if I did more than usually, actually. But I skipped user support on the forums a lot. Have you already had interesting replies to your job applications? 2018-12-08 12-33-20 PST Moini And we still don't have a place where they are uploaded. 2019-03-16 17-56-05 PDT Moini https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=XXzfqfpjXXSzgvQnm () 2019-04-02 13-25-44 PDT Moini Is there anyone doing that now? 2019-01-14 17-01-23 PST Moini it would just add another layer of complexity... 2019-01-16 07-19-47 PST Moini 8. Be specific with times. As in 'I will wait until 8 a.m. Pacific time on January 14th, make sure that everything is committed until then'. 2019-03-12 09-18-59 PDT Moini If I come, I won't stay as long. 2019-01-15 15-08-13 PST Moini That was wrong. It always depends on the user's public key. 2019-11-17 18-49-47 PST Moini Good night, Bryce! 2018-12-23 16-12-09 PST Moini Is the reason you left there still relevant today? 2019-04-02 13-19-14 PDT Moini :-( I'm hoping for you, then, too. 2019-06-17 15-24-08 PDT Moini Sounds a lot like my village, with the Kiel Canal, we have the large container ships and cruise ships here, too. You can hear them for more than 2km. 2018-12-23 16-26-58 PST Moini I think as an experienced dev whom they already know, and with an excellent reputation (as far as I know ;-)), you would have some leverage, for the work hours. But it's easy to slide into doing too much. 2019-01-14 03-26-57 PST Moini It's admin@ I think. I'm not on my computer with access to my emails, though, so can't verify. Must be in the quoted emails. No, others don't have access, but also nobody asked to have. 2019-02-05 17-00-34 PST Moini Ah, not gold. Bronze. 2019-03-12 09-15-54 PDT Moini He's also hard to get hold of... but we'll see. I hope nobody made any travel arrangements yet. 2019-04-02 13-51-16 PDT Moini and for those thinking about the future users. 2018-10-11 18-28-37 PDT Moini Yes. I think the same thing happened to Ted not too long ago, right? 2020-09-08 05-00-28 PDT Moini Thanks for taking the time to reply, Bryce. Hope you'll get some space to breathe soon! 2018-10-11 18-19-49 PDT Moini I'm sorry. 2019-01-15 14-31-31 PST Moini Private? 2019-01-13 11-20-15 PST Moini We didn't have any private contact address, so I think Martin just did what seemed sensible to him. He was probably thinking in terms of helping the project, by doing work for it. Especially as nobody volunteered to do it... and piling up more work on you, or waiting that 'someone' does it, isn't exactly helpful, either. He forwarded the emails to the list anyway, I believe. 2019-12-03 12-14-24 PST Moini I don't know. 2019-07-12 10-44-23 PDT Moini I know, Bryce. I hope it'll get better. 2019-10-18 18-02-29 PDT Moini That's solved now, he switched to using let's encrypt. 2019-01-14 17-01-58 PST Moini I don't see it happen. 2019-01-15 15-01-17 PST Moini Break it for all other uploads and update nonetheless. 2019-04-02 13-54-18 PDT Moini I guess that's normal, even if quite nerve-wracking. 2020-03-11 10-30-33 PDT Moini Asked. 2019-04-02 13-37-03 PDT Moini Or only a developer in India... 2018-12-08 12-28-51 PST Moini Yes. That would definitely be useful. 2019-02-05 17-01-21 PST Moini The last one in that list that you added. 2019-01-15 14-30-57 PST Moini I'm going to change the category, then. 2019-12-03 12-32-54 PST Moini For other possible mods, perhaps ask on the list? It's hard to know without asking. Ah, that needs to be addressed. I hope they do get the emails... 2018-10-11 18-39-35 PDT Moini They always are... 2019-06-17 15-26-57 PDT Moini And exhausting. 2019-12-03 11-58-00 PST Moini Or applying for? Don't know the phrases. 2019-01-15 14-22-40 PST Moini You get there, Bryce? 2019-11-23 08-16-17 PST Moini (next time, please ask first) 2019-11-17 18-41-26 PST Moini (and make all board members able to do that, in case you're not there? Please :) ) 2019-12-03 12-35-47 PST Moini Bryce, thank you. I hope you won't get so frustrated with us to drop it all. I hope you will stay. 2018-10-11 18-58-26 PDT Moini Take care! 2019-01-16 10-05-48 PST Moini File uploading is fixed now, too. No more permission errors when trying to download. 2019-01-16 10-05-21 PST Moini Yes! 2019-12-03 12-21-13 PST Moini I don't know. I wish you could talk about it with honesty. Personally, I don't think that any of you has any bad intentions. 2019-03-12 07-52-49 PDT Moini Bryce, are you online? I need some help deciding what I should ask from Aude. 2020-11-18 05-00-27 PST Moini [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/bryce?msg=KKxnxzsWY49QyjFFy) Yes... 2020 sucked in many respects... esp. if one is living in your area. Riots, fires, political uncertainty, COVID, a challenging and time-consuming job, and then the daily family stuff on top of that, then Inkscape project people asking for attention can be a lot, I imagine. My plump interpretation of the issue is this: If you're mentioned, or tagged and then don't (cannot) ask what people wanted to know from you, they might interpret it as 'he's not there' and 'he's got no time' or, in the worst case 'he's not interested'. And they start trying to look for other ways to get their problem solved. Which may then involve trying to get permissions from you. They will also start to not include you, as you're not replying anyway. Which then may result in you feeling people want to take something from you and exclude you. They don't - they just want to be able to move forward, at least as far as I know. No buses, only practical considerations, to my understanding. I can't imagine anyone wanting to hurt you. Also, probably noone wants to take on your responsibility... they all already have theirs. Asking for access is something different. For example, Mc would have upgraded the rocket.chat long ago, it's something he does for a living, he'd have figured it out - if he had had access. He wants to solve the problem we're facing, and would be perfectly capable of that (and trustworthy, too). Now we're waiting again. Currently for Manuel, I believe. Maybe he also didn't see the message. When he replies, I suppose your availability info will be outdated, and the date-finding process will start again. There are already people who cannot access the chat anymore. A public security issue also exists. () 2018-11-17 13-37-17 PST Moini (this was supposed to be in asterisks) 2019-01-14 17-22-48 PST Moini You're right, I don't get it...

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[Webmaster] Inkscape - Illinois NDPA request
by Scott Dixon 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

I am hoping I can get this to the correct area. Illinois has passed a law like a number of other states requiring student privacy information be posted. SOPPA - Student Online Privacy Protection Act. We have to have a signed Data Privacy Agreement with any company we share data with and/or that collects personally identifiable information on students. Can you get this to the proper people and/or let me know who I need to contact? I checked the national database and see that you have signed a similar document for Hillsboro School District, OR. This is for Woodridge School District 68 in Woodridge, Illinois Thank you, *Scott Dixon* *Network Support Specialist* *Woodridge School District 68* *(630) 795-6861* *dixons(a)woodridge68.org <dixons(a)woodridge68.org>*

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[Webmaster] Undeliverable: Your registration on inkscape.org
by postmaster＠stokehigh.co.uk 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

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[Webmaster] Undeliverable: Your registration on inkscape.org
by postmaster＠stokehigh.co.uk 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

[https://products.office.com/en-us/CMSImages/Office365Logo_Orange.png?versio…] Your message to kclarke19(a)stokehigh.co.uk couldn't be delivered. kclarke19 wasn't found at stokehigh.co.uk. webmaster Office 365 kclarke19 Action Required Recipient Unknown To address How to Fix It The address may be misspelled or may not exist. Try one or more of the following: * Send the message again following these steps: In Outlook, open this non-delivery report (NDR) and choose Send Again from the Report ribbon. In Outlook on the web, select this NDR, then select the link "To send this message again, click here." Then delete and retype the entire recipient address. If prompted with an Auto-Complete List suggestion don't select it. After typing the complete address, click Send. * Contact the recipient (by phone, for example) to check that the address exists and is correct. * The recipient may have set up email forwarding to an incorrect address. Ask them to check that any forwarding they've set up is working correctly. * Clear the recipient Auto-Complete List in Outlook or Outlook on the web by following the steps in this article: Fix email delivery issues for error code 5.1.10 in Office 365<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=532972>, and then send the message again. Retype the entire recipient address before selecting Send. If the problem continues, forward this message to your email admin. If you're an email admin, refer to the More Info for Email Admins section below. Was this helpful? Send feedback to Microsoft<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=525921>. ________________________________ More Info for Email Admins Status code: 550 5.1.10 This error occurs because the sender sent a message to an email address hosted by Office 365 but the address is incorrect or doesn't exist at the destination domain. The error is reported by the recipient domain's email server, but most often it must be fixed by the person who sent the message. If the steps in the How to Fix It section above don't fix the problem, and you're the email admin for the recipient, try one or more of the following: The email address exists and is correct - Confirm that the recipient address exists, is correct, and is accepting messages. Synchronize your directories - If you have a hybrid environment and are using directory synchronization make sure the recipient's email address is synced correctly in both Office 365 and in your on-premises directory. Errant forwarding rule - Check for forwarding rules that aren't behaving as expected. Forwarding can be set up by an admin via mail flow rules or mailbox forwarding address settings, or by the recipient via the Inbox Rules feature. Recipient has a valid license - Make sure the recipient has an Office 365 license assigned to them. The recipient's email admin can use the Office 365 admin center to assign a license (Users > Active Users > select the recipient > Assigned License > Edit). Mail flow settings and MX records are not correct - Misconfigured mail flow or MX record settings can cause this error. Check your Office 365 mail flow settings to make sure your domain and any mail flow connectors are set up correctly. Also, work with your domain registrar to make sure the MX records for your domain are configured correctly. For more information and additional tips to fix this issue, see Fix email delivery issues for error code 5.1.10 in Office 365<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=532972>. 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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 175 Messages, 5 Files, 515657 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: adam.belis & Lazur
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2021-02-13 12-57-13 PST Lazur and with doing that hundreds of times it is a pain to wait every time 2021-02-13 12-56-36 PST Lazur see that it takes no time to select a path at the start then around 10 minutes it's more than a second 2021-02-13 12-55-59 PST Lazur can't get more mempry into this machine 2020-05-05 14-54-44 PDT Lazur guess using a brush and oil paint on canvas is the best 2020-05-05 14-49-42 PDT Lazur the experience is it's not working 2020-05-05 14-51-32 PDT Lazur https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZz3y6r-5H8 2020-05-05 14-56-35 PDT Lazur how ironic :D 2021-02-13 12-55-20 PST Lazur costed a fortune :/ 2021-02-13 13-00-01 PST Lazur but in use, no 2021-02-13 11-19-53 PST Lazur hey 2021-02-13 12-51-18 PST Lazur here it is 2021-02-16 11-21-00 PST Lazur hey 2021-02-13 12-54-40 PST Lazur it's win10 2021-02-13 13-13-48 PST Lazur here I go 2021-02-13 14-47-23 PST Lazur I see 2021-02-13 13-06-17 PST Lazur :( 2021-02-13 14-45-32 PST Lazur how so 2021-02-13 14-00-14 PST Lazur another 30 mins to go 2021-02-13 13-10-15 PST Lazur too much to focus on 2021-02-13 14-41-54 PST Lazur the performance 2021-02-13 11-21-35 PST Lazur it's relative 2021-02-13 12-54-37 PST Lazur no 2021-02-13 14-00-42 PST Lazur yeah 2021-02-13 14-49-23 PST Lazur feelsgoodman 2021-02-13 13-03-53 PST Lazur I know how the gradient tool can be used 2021-02-13 13-00-47 PST Lazur missing clicking on the start end and reselecting again takes more time 2021-02-13 13-00-15 PST Lazur it's pointer is hard to select the handle 2021-02-13 13-01-41 PST Lazur failed there several times in the video too 2021-02-13 12-59-50 PST Lazur maybe so theoretically 2021-02-13 11-25-05 PST Lazur sort of 2021-02-13 13-01-27 PST Lazur btw would be much easier if in-between gradient steps can be locked so they cannot be clicked accidentally 2021-02-13 13-02-05 PST Lazur wouldn want only start-end nodes, nothing in between 2021-02-13 13-02-13 PST Lazur distracting the output 2021-02-13 11-20-07 PST Lazur https://we.tl/t-1AurZZ567B 2021-02-13 12-51-13 PST Lazur https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maWy1DiN3BM&feature=youtu.be 2021-02-13 13-04-17 PST Lazur it's pointer is too large and hard to move to the exact pixels unlike the node tool 2021-02-13 13-05-18 PST Lazur is it possible resetting its cursor? 2021-02-13 13-05-42 PST Lazur without compiling a custom version that is 2021-02-13 13-06-31 PST Lazur so beta may be the solution then 2021-02-13 13-07-31 PST Lazur the main pointer is small and hard to grasp where it's at 2021-02-13 13-08-01 PST Lazur unlike the node tool's which is pointing to an exact spot from a diagonal way 2021-02-13 13-08-17 PST Lazur the cross blocks reference from below 2021-02-13 13-08-51 PST Lazur visual cues like next to/right below, instead it's "approximately there" 2021-02-13 13-09-02 PST Lazur and that white border makes it worse 2021-02-13 13-09-19 PST Lazur then there is the unnecessaryicon of the gradient tool that does nothing 2021-02-13 13-09-39 PST Lazur and gets even worse when indicating a hit on the gradient step 2021-02-13 13-10-04 PST Lazur like what is that blinking 2021-02-13 13-13-44 PST Lazur oh just opened the preferences and the selector tool can also edit the gradients? cool! 2021-02-13 13-14-21 PST Lazur now where to find how to display larger handle nodes 2021-02-13 13-16-57 PST Lazur and can switch off the cursors alltogether:chart_with_upwards_trend: 2021-02-13 13-18-27 PST Lazur ok, will now do another screen recording with these settings 2021-02-13 13-18-46 PST Lazur now what tool to use to display mouse movements 2021-02-13 13-59-46 PST Lazur ok, keystrokes, mouse clicks displayed 2021-02-13 13-59-59 PST Lazur starting fresh, cameras are rolling 2021-02-13 14-01-05 PST Lazur as it says in the metadata it started in 2019 2021-02-13 14-33-05 PST Lazur ok, it's night and day 2021-02-13 14-42-17 PST Lazur using the oject tool doesn't create lagging 2021-02-13 14-41-50 PST Lazur https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8yQp1pqHRA&feature=youtu.be 2021-02-13 14-42-24 PST Lazur doing the exact same thing 2021-02-13 14-44-37 PST Lazur its down to 3 clicks already 2021-02-13 14-45-21 PST Lazur that's the same with the gradient tool 2021-02-13 14-45-46 PST Lazur one click selecting the object 2021-02-13 14-46-10 PST Lazur then clicking the start, then the end handle 2021-02-13 14-47-18 PST Lazur so that is one click for selecting, then click and drag 2021-02-13 14-48-30 PST Lazur so maybe it can be finished before 2029 2021-02-13 14-48-39 PST Lazur :chart_with_upwards_trend: 2021-02-16 11-21-24 PST Lazur using the gradient tool for these gradients and the same issue applies 2021-02-16 11-21-46 PST Lazur it gets lagging unlike at the start 2021-02-16 11-22-05 PST Lazur will make another screen capture 2021-02-16 11-22-17 PST Lazur will report back in an hour 2021-02-16 12-24-53 PST Lazur it's undo history related 2021-02-16 16-21-43 PST Lazur after some other tests it uses the processr power rather the memory 2021-02-16 16-22-44 PST Lazur and had two instances where the problem didn't appear up until I changed a few hundred object's solid fill to linear gradient at once 2021-02-16 16-23-02 PST Lazur after that editing the gradients got noticeably slower 2020-05-05 14-58-35 PDT Lazur I'd like to go forward 2020-05-05 14-45-20 PDT Lazur thank's for looking at it 2021-02-13 11-25-15 PST Lazur because it takes time getting there :D 2021-02-13 11-24-25 PST Lazur not sure about how to measure it 2021-02-13 11-24-08 PST Lazur it builds up in a linear fashion I guess 2021-02-13 11-23-40 PST Lazur not much of a lagging on a single object but builds up multiplying the drawing time 2021-02-13 11-22-51 PST Lazur it builds up to a few seconds for selecting 2021-02-13 11-22-36 PST Lazur and when at first it's all by an instant 2021-02-13 11-22-21 PST Lazur selecting the two handle points one after another and repositionoing them 2021-02-13 11-21-59 PST Lazur there are hundreds of gradients I want to adjust 2021-02-13 11-20-05 PST Lazur it's actually the same drawing 2020-05-05 14-49-02 PDT Lazur not sure if that ever going to happen 2020-05-05 14-50-04 PDT Lazur rather should have placed those paths with gradient fills already 2020-05-05 14-54-29 PDT Lazur and then some cast shadows and filtering 2021-02-13 12-57-57 PST Lazur just downloaded sharex, can't remember which program I used before capturing mouse clicks 2020-05-05 14-45-09 PDT Lazur nice 2021-02-13 12-32-47 PST Lazur should I share it here or upload it to youtube? 2021-02-13 12-30-20 PST Lazur made a screen capture for 30 mins 2021-02-13 12-57-14 PST Adam Belis oh i seee .... dont see clicks so it is ahrd to se that on video :? 2021-02-13 12-56-19 PST Adam Belis for changin gradients ? 2021-02-13 12-56-04 PST Adam Belis also have you treid using gradetinet tool ? 2020-05-05 14-52-35 PDT Adam Belis nNY25TGWdo.mp4 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ZYWeMhZFMYAxPxrer/nNY25TGWdo.mp4) 2020-05-05 14-45-52 PDT Adam Belis but i would not wont to work on this :D ite chuging hard in ink scape in illustator its much better 2020-05-05 14-46-23 PDT Adam Belis but actually if i turn on layers and work on one at te time its ok 2020-05-05 14-56-11 PDT Adam Belis you know what ? it does nto kill illustrator 2020-05-05 14-54-43 PDT Adam Belis ok that would kill even illustrator 2020-05-05 14-52-38 PDT Adam Belis look how fus it could be done :D 2020-05-05 14-48-39 PDT Adam Belis btw its going to look cool once you finis it :D 2020-05-05 14-44-17 PDT Adam Belis lets not spam vectors 2021-02-13 11-27-10 PST Adam Belis sounds like a memory leak pls try to report it 2021-02-13 11-20-03 PST Adam Belis hello 2021-02-13 14-48-46 PST Adam Belis :D sonks 2021-02-13 14-49-36 PST Adam Belis :D 2021-02-13 13-05-57 PST Adam Belis yes in 1.1 2021-02-13 12-30-35 PST Adam Belis good good 2021-02-13 14-37-38 PST Adam Belis what is ? 2021-02-13 12-58-29 PST Adam Belis btw 2021-02-13 14-48-55 PST Adam Belis profit 2021-02-13 14-45-26 PST Adam Belis no its not 2021-02-13 13-06-04 PST Adam Belis no in 1.0.3 2021-02-13 13-00-17 PST Adam Belis how so 2021-02-13 11-24-27 PST Adam Belis probably 2021-02-13 12-52-03 PST Adam Belis never mind 2021-02-13 14-42-34 PST Adam Belis intresting 2021-02-13 12-58-25 PST Adam Belis ahd have plugin for shoing my controls 2021-02-13 13-03-22 PST Adam Belis you have to dowlad it if you are on chrome :D 2021-02-13 12-59-26 PST Adam Belis gradeint tool is fater than using node tool 2021-02-13 13-02-52 PST Adam Belis i think you just need to learn to use gradeint tool look at my video 2021-02-13 13-00-25 PST Adam Belis look 2021-02-13 13-01-34 PST Adam Belis also you can make nodes bigger in edit/prefereces / intereface handel size 2021-02-13 13-04-00 PST Adam Belis take a gradeint tool click on object to select click and drag to make gradeint 2021-02-13 13-01-10 PST Adam Belis 2021-02-13 22-00-28.mkv (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/xjAanR6CKkCXvn9ju/2021-02-13%2022-00-…) 2021-02-13 13-04-07 PST Adam Belis click on ne object to select and repet 2021-02-13 13-04-19 PST Adam Belis its much faster than using node editing tool 2021-02-13 13-05-00 PST Adam Belis its totaly same as with node editing tool 2021-02-13 13-05-53 PST Adam Belis change cousor look ? 2021-02-13 13-06-31 PST Adam Belis but you can dowlad 1.1 2021-02-13 13-06-40 PST Adam Belis but what is prolbem for you 2021-02-13 13-06-50 PST Adam Belis you feel like cousros is just in a way ? 2021-02-13 13-10-16 PST Adam Belis well everry tool has a icon it is usful to knwo wnat tool are you using but i get why it is annoing for you 2021-02-13 13-10-48 PST Adam Belis i would argure that node tool is more enoing coz you see nodes and storkes and other usles information you dont need when you edit gradeints 2021-02-13 13-11-03 PST Adam Belis well anyway yes you can edit coursotsr in 1.1 2021-02-13 13-11-08 PST Adam Belis and make it just a cross 2021-02-13 13-14-24 PST Adam Belis hehe stil thinks gradeint tool is better tool for the job but you do you 2021-02-13 13-14-35 PST Adam Belis prefences interface 2021-02-13 13-14-39 PST Adam Belis node size slider 2021-02-13 13-19-29 PST Adam Belis well you could do that but it sounds lik a bad idea :D 2021-02-13 14-00-25 PST Adam Belis hehe good luck wit this many etempts you wil finish this piece soon :D 2021-02-13 14-00-54 PST Adam Belis good strategy to be more productive 2021-02-13 14-02-19 PST Adam Belis hehe waiting for technology to catch up :D 2021-02-13 14-42-55 PST Adam Belis even when you wich to node tool now ? 2021-02-13 14-43-18 PST Adam Belis heh i stillthink this would be much faster with gradient tool :D 2021-02-13 14-43-33 PST Adam Belis 2 clicks insted of 4 2021-02-13 14-45-15 PST Adam Belis 3 click pricez clicks 2021-02-13 14-45-44 PST Adam Belis you dont need to find handel you can start click and drag 2021-02-13 14-46-30 PST Adam Belis with gradient tool have to locate handels 2021-02-13 14-46-37 PST Adam Belis you can just click and drag 2021-02-13 14-47-31 PST Adam Belis yop look at that video i send you 2021-02-13 14-47-54 PST Adam Belis you can also seltec with gradeint tool so its pretty fast 2021-02-13 14-48-52 PST Adam Belis less clicks more stonks 2021-02-13 14-49-59 PST Adam Belis 2021-02-13 23-49-14.mp4 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/B2miC8e9t5u4xec4y/2021-02-13%2023-49-…) 2021-02-16 12-11-43 PST Adam Belis I see so this is maybe gradient editor memory leak 2020-05-05 14-55-58 PDT Adam Belis Clipboard - May 5, 2020 11:55 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ddFeBibqTBqAo8PRH/Clipboard%20-%20May…) 2021-02-13 11-24-36 PST Adam Belis but is it releted to time 2021-02-13 11-24-25 PST Adam Belis that is probabyt som kind of memory leak ... 2021-02-13 11-20-49 PST Adam Belis how many steps do you have to do until it starts to get laaggy 2020-05-05 14-55-05 PDT Adam Belis i would say kirta but yes :D 2020-05-05 14-53-06 PDT Adam Belis illustrator_w73RN9uVrJ.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/RkGfQ9TJhn6smcswA/illustrator_w73RN9u…) 2020-05-05 14-57-08 PDT Adam Belis Inkscape brain washed me i am going BACK :D 2020-05-05 14-56-22 PDT Adam Belis men i forgot how good illustrator is :D 2020-05-05 14-44-45 PDT Adam Belis i added 200 more gradients to svg (but did not aply ) and it still runs same 2021-02-13 12-58-14 PST Adam Belis dont know i susaly ise obs for longer videos 2021-02-13 12-55-51 PST Adam Belis but i dont see big degration in performace in this video 2021-02-13 12-55-31 PST Adam Belis i get much worst performace than yors 2021-02-13 12-55-00 PST Adam Belis ok i have to say your machin is much faster than mine :D 2021-02-13 12-54-27 PST Adam Belis you are on linux right ? 2021-02-13 12-51-58 PST Adam Belis ok that does nto work :D 2021-02-13 12-50-39 PST Adam Belis hmmmm you know what yoou could try ? 2021-02-13 12-33-11 PST Adam Belis add it to the issue 2021-02-13 12-33-05 PST Adam Belis youtube is probably better 2021-02-13 12-23-00 PST Adam Belis hmmm just testing performace is not good but i dont feel liek its getting worst with time :/

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 46 Messages, 0 Files, 858776 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: brynn & jabiertxof
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29 Apr '21

2020-01-24 17-01-36 PST Jabier Arraiza maybe the easyest is work the files localy as static HTML files and when done I send tou the comand to upload, but you need to have acces to alpha as vector memeber (so you can edit the real home page of the whole site for the future) 2020-01-26 06-32-05 PST Jabier Arraiza We want to focus on finish 1.0, no forums work before 2020-01-24 16-30-38 PST Jabier Arraiza the problem is we dont use php in any server, just HTML or python 2020-01-26 03-45-04 PST Jabier Arraiza I don't know 2020-01-24 17-08-57 PST Jabier Arraiza We have a copy from your site on alpha 2019-09-10 08-27-44 PDT Jabier Arraiza great! 2020-01-24 17-14-32 PST Jabier Arraiza Scp ./myfile brynn@alpha.inkscape.org:/place/of/file.html 2020-01-24 17-13-07 PST Jabier Arraiza Yes basically is: 2020-01-26 03-45-23 PST Jabier Arraiza but not devs/staff to it previously 2020-01-26 06-42-36 PST Jabier Arraiza but I can change previosly sometimes since we final decide ;) 2020-01-25 07-14-58 PST Jabier Arraiza I think make pubic is a good idea, you are hurry or could wait 1.0 launch and see how advance The 2 static forums launch, to know what's the best way to update yours one front page? 2020-01-24 16-39-29 PST Jabier Arraiza so you can enter by ssh and edit with a comand line text file editor 2020-01-24 17-10-27 PST Jabier Arraiza So you can edit this 2020-01-24 17-15-46 PST Jabier Arraiza You can upload recursive with -r 2019-09-10 08-27-38 PDT Jabier Arraiza grear!!! see you! 2020-01-26 06-31-36 PST Jabier Arraiza I dont know when release 2020-01-24 17-16-48 PST Jabier Arraiza Yes but I need to know how to do a scp with putty 2020-01-24 16-38-52 PST Jabier Arraiza think we can add you permissions on alpha page 2020-01-24 17-18-34 PST Jabier Arraiza Yes of course 2020-01-24 17-18-09 PST Jabier Arraiza If possible you need to ask Bryce to give you acces to server and some folders I tell you later 2020-01-24 16-40-43 PST Jabier Arraiza but feel free to ask on public 2020-01-24 16-39-50 PST Jabier Arraiza also can upload files from outside or copied by SCP 2020-01-24 17-11-07 PST Jabier Arraiza No ;) 2019-09-10 08-05-22 PDT Jabier Arraiza Hi @brynn ping me if want to leave moderation from RC. Regards 2020-01-24 17-16-04 PST Jabier Arraiza But you are on windows 2020-01-24 17-52-43 PST Jabier Arraiza You have a domain? 2020-01-24 17-15-14 PST Jabier Arraiza Secure copy protocol 2020-01-24 17-11-34 PST Jabier Arraiza Alpha.inkscape.org 2020-01-24 17-09-43 PST Jabier Arraiza When shutdown we still have it available in read mode 2020-01-24 16-40-19 PST Jabier Arraiza think give FTP acces could be a problem because exception 2020-01-24 17-15-56 PST brynn Oh, I've never seen that page before (alpha.inkscape). So I would need....what do I need? Permission to upload to that page? 2020-01-24 03-35-45 PST brynn @jabiertxof I wanted to move this page https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php so it stays alive after Inkscape Community is closed. I thought my ISP would provide a little space, enough for that page. But I just found out they don't give me any space. A little while ago you asked me if I wanted to put any part of Inkscape Community on Inkscape server. Would there be some way to do that, where I would still have access to it, so I could keep the page updated? 2020-01-24 17-10-39 PST brynn Oh, I thought you meant inkscape.org. Sorry. 2020-01-24 17-17-59 PST brynn Instead of making me all official, could I just send you the files? 2020-01-26 06-41-55 PST brynn Ok. Thanks. 2020-01-24 17-17-23 PST brynn Well I would need a terminal to put the command in. Oh, I have putty. I needed it once, but never used it again. 2020-01-25 22-01-39 PST brynn If 1.0 launch is less than one month, I can wait. But I can't wait 2, 4, 6, months. Why does it matter about the 2 archive forums launch? 2020-01-24 17-22-19 PST brynn It sounds like it's going to be complicated to make me official enough. Let me do a little searching, and find out if maybe I can find a cheap place to host it. If I can't find any other place, I'll come back to you, and see if we can make it work. OK? 2020-01-24 17-12-27 PST brynn I thought about that too. I can edit the file myself, and just send it to you, and you can overwrite it on alpha. But giving me command might work. Would it be the same command to upload the image files, as to upload the html file? 2020-01-24 16-38-12 PST brynn It's html page. No php. I take the php out. I have 2 questions. So the page could keep it's graphics (background, custom bullets, custom titles) I would need to be able to upload several small image files. Is that possible? And the other question, would I be able to access the file, so I could update now and then? 2019-09-10 08-10-45 PDT brynn Ok. This is a different moderation system, so I'll still help here. I might not be visiting as much, but we'll see what happens. 2020-01-24 17-16-31 PST brynn Yes, windows 2020-01-24 16-51-14 PST brynn Ok, thanks jabier. Most of that, I don't know how to do (don't even know what scp is). But I wanted to find out if possible. I will have to look somewhere else. Maybe I can use a cheap shared server. I prefer vps, but even the smallest one, probably too expensive. But I'll search. Thanks again! 2020-01-24 18-14-28 PST brynn Hhmm.... Good point. I have 2 domains now (inkscapecommunity.com and inkscapecuttingdesign.com). But I was just about to give them up. SIGH!! Maybe using Inkscape server is the best option. As far as I understand, there are 2 ways to go. 1 - I need to get whatever credentials I need to be able to upload to alpha.inkscape. Or 2 - send you the files and you can upload them. I don't want to make more work for you, even if it's just 15 minutes now and then. So I need to get whatever credentials I need, to be able to upload. Unless! Maybe we need to make the discussion public, so other users of the server can give comments? Maybe there would be other ideas? Maren wants me to put the page on GitLab. I resist that, because I find GL hard to use, and often maddening! So that's the last thing I want to do. But someone might have a good idea? 2020-01-24 17-04-55 PST brynn I don't understand about editing the home page of the whole site. I'm not even sure what the real home page is, or why I need to edit. 2020-01-26 03-45-56 PST brynn I don't understand what you mean.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 3 Messages, 0 Files, 197964 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: ian & jabiertxof
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29 Apr '21

2020-12-12 04-40-55 PST Jabier Arraiza we can use team ux? so other others can contrib? 2020-12-12 04-36-31 PST ian test 2020-12-12 04-42-01 PST ian good idea

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29 Apr '21

2019-12-02 15-31-37 PST faith hi 2019-12-02 15-32-20 PST faith hello

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 4 Messages, 0 Files, 204831 Minutes, in #private
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29 Apr '21

2020-12-07 10-13-00 PST Izumi Midoriya :wave: 2020-12-07 11-33-15 PST Izumi Midoriya me is got 50+ followers 2020-12-07 12-05-32 PST 💖Dera💖 !!! 2020-12-07 10-32-25 PST 💖Dera💖 hi

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 20 Messages, 0 Files, 615052 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: cyanideforbreakfast & jabiertxof
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29 Apr '21

2020-03-09 13-15-57 PDT Jabier Arraiza Please share in inkscape devel I disagree the way. To me you must handle groups when posibol 2020-03-09 13-18-34 PDT Jabier Arraiza Also you need to add two patches to apply your proposal 2020-02-27 22-03-15 PST Jabier Arraiza Thanks I try to help you as co-mentor 2020-02-27 13-17-02 PST Jabier Arraiza I couldent mentor you, sorry, I launch a public call to help you 2020-03-09 13-22-45 PDT Jabier Arraiza Great, please use devel chat, I want to be a co- mentor I haven't time to full mentor 2020-03-09 13-21-01 PDT Jabier Arraiza Both are great filled 2020-03-09 13-20-01 PDT Jabier Arraiza Also I think you must hide path on editing some effects can wrong you if not 2020-03-09 13-20-45 PDT Jabier Arraiza Please look around the other 2 current proposals to take as way to do 2020-02-26 14-21-17 PST Jabier Arraiza Is late reply you tomorrow 2020-02-26 13-24-26 PST CyanideForBreakfast Thanks in advance, sir! 2020-03-09 06-59-23 PDT CyanideForBreakfast https://gitlab.com/CyanideForBreakfast/text_support_lpe/-/blob/master/READM… 2020-02-26 13-18-23 PST CyanideForBreakfast Sure, sir, I would also love to work on Adding Text and Image Support to LPE too. I says I must have experience managing bitmaps. Please tell me how should I start studying them. 2020-02-26 13-23-42 PST CyanideForBreakfast And sir, I did not quiet understood you in chat, sorry. Can you clarify if you will be mentoring Adding Images and Text Support to LPE project? 2020-02-26 13-18-17 PST CyanideForBreakfast Thanks for replying, sir. I thought I would message you here so that I don't disturb the development discussions there. 2020-03-09 06-59-16 PDT CyanideForBreakfast Sir, sorry I was busy in my exams, here is my plan based on what we discussed for extending text support to LPEs. I have a few suggestions listed at the bottom. Please tell me what do you think and feel free to correct me and advise more changes. 2020-02-26 13-19-02 PST CyanideForBreakfast And finally how should I prepare myself for this project? 2020-03-09 13-21-18 PDT CyanideForBreakfast Thanks for the feedback. I will work on it. 2020-02-27 13-34-40 PST CyanideForBreakfast No problem, sir. 2020-02-27 12-05-18 PST CyanideForBreakfast Whenever u r free, sir. 2020-03-09 13-17-17 PDT CyanideForBreakfast Sure.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 34 Messages, 0 Files, 579541 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: moazin & Moini
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29 Apr '21

2020-03-22 05-59-47 PDT Moazin However, I didn't receive any email giving me the temporary password 2020-03-22 05-59-28 PDT Moazin He set the username to be "Moazin" 2020-03-22 06-03-08 PDT Moazin [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/Moini?msg=qvPLRa7T8uwJypn4Q) This, I didn't understand. Could you elaborate? () 2020-03-22 06-02-37 PDT Moazin or "MoazinK" that's fine too 2020-03-22 05-59-06 PDT Moazin Hi Moini 2020-03-22 06-08-46 PDT Moazin thanks a lot 2020-03-22 06-02-31 PDT Moazin if that's availabe 2020-03-22 05-59-14 PDT Moazin Thanks for offering help 2020-03-22 06-02-27 PDT Moazin [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/Moini?msg=oxeDMnvDfganvqAa9) If choosing a different username is going to work then I can go for "Mk" () 2020-03-22 06-08-52 PDT Moazin Username is "Mk"? 2020-03-22 06-13-16 PDT Moazin Lol I didn't know it was in the documentation channel :P I was looking in the wrong place. And yes, I am new, slower! :D 2020-03-22 05-59-35 PDT Moazin and the email to be "moazinkhatri(a)gmail.com" 2020-03-22 06-09-46 PDT Moazin I was just looking for it too :D 2020-03-22 05-59-21 PDT Moazin Tav actually created an account for me 2020-03-22 06-13-49 PDT Moazin Thanks a lot for the help btw, Just changed the pass! :) 2020-03-22 05-59-58 PDT Moazin So I guess due to the same issue? 2020-03-22 06-08-44 PDT Moazin Okay, I'll inform him that :) 2020-03-22 06-12-18 PDT Moini (you're new, I can more easily afford to tell one of the old hands what to do...) 2020-03-22 05-59-15 PDT Moini Hi! 2020-03-22 06-07-41 PDT Moini But I can ping him about it, too. 2020-03-22 06-01-59 PDT Moini So he's going to be able to do it better next time. 2020-03-22 06-07-27 PDT Moini Looks like not only Patrick needed to read it, but Tav also. 2020-03-22 06-11-35 PDT Moini Faster :-P 2020-03-22 06-00-52 PDT Moini Or you need to choose a different user name. 2020-03-22 06-00-04 PDT Moini I know. I think I wrote about it yesterday... 2020-03-22 06-01-47 PDT Moini And probably, you should give the permalink to my message to Tav... 2020-03-22 06-00-23 PDT Moini I cannot change your email address. 2020-03-22 06-09-38 PDT Moini Yep. I'm still looking for my message from yesterday.. 2020-03-22 05-59-31 PDT Moini Ah, cool :) 2020-03-22 06-00-41 PDT Moini So if you want to keep the user name, you must find someone who can. 2020-03-22 06-02-42 PDT Moini I'll try it out now. 2020-03-22 06-07-05 PDT Moini It was available. Your temporary password is: Baephu9Woovo Please change it as soon as possible. I meant the message I sent to the user or devel rocket.chat channel yesterday about the email issues with the Wiki server, and what I do to prevent problems. I was talking with ede123 about it. 2020-03-22 05-59-52 PDT Moini Lol.... 2020-03-22 06-14-31 PDT Moini :)

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 6 Messages, 0 Files, 297658 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: Tricia & Moini
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2020-10-04 00-02-59 PDT Tricia Hi, hope you can help me solve inkscape issues, 2020-10-04 00-03-47 PDT Tricia also, can you create an inkscape app, it is easier for users. 2020-10-05 05-53-36 PDT Tricia ok 2020-10-04 00-04-16 PDT Tricia thank you. 2020-10-04 00-03-23 PDT Tricia it says inkscape can't work and has internal diffculties 2020-10-04 04-25-01 PDT Moini Please use the public user support channel for any questions. Thank you.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 4 Users, 15 Messages, 0 Files, 453995 Minutes, in #gsoc-moazin
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29 Apr '21

2020-06-17 10-35-57 PDT Mc (but ultimately it should be @speleo3 's decision as he's your main mentor and who should see how "on schedule" you are for now - a few days, if you are on time with the proposed schedule (and not falling behind), is completely doable to recover -) 2020-06-17 11-31-48 PDT Mc (french-speaker comment : "Forme" means "Shape" in french, so the fact that both functions exist is quite amazing :D ) 2020-06-17 10-25-10 PDT Mc :) 2020-06-17 10-33-08 PDT Mc imo taking three days (20-21 is a weekend) to get the end of academic year done with (rather than asking for an extension) is a reasonable ask 2020-06-17 10-26-19 PDT Moazin There is a matter that I need to discuss with you mentors. 2020-06-17 10-28-19 PDT Moazin So the thing is as you would probably know I am in the senior year of my university. (I was supposed to have graduated by June). Due to COVID, the university was closed and then they started some online education system too. The exams and my thesis were scheduled for later. However, suddenly they sent us an email telling that we have to submit our thesis on 24th June and deliver a presentation on 29 June. It's very hard to manage this with GSoC. I was wondering if it would be possible to do reduced work for the upcoming few days, I'll of course make up for it. I totally understand if this is not possible, in that situation I'll have to ask the university to give me an extension in the project which will have its own downsides. 2020-06-17 10-25-24 PDT Moazin Hi Everyone 2020-06-17 11-03-50 PDT Moazin Thanks @speleo3 and @Mc. I am really grateful that you guys are very helpful and supportive. :-) I'll try my best to get done with understanding `Shape::ConvertToShape` and `Shape::ConvertToForme` within the next 3 days and then get started on the thesis. Hopefully when I get back to coding after 25th I'll be ready to start coding these. 2020-06-17 10-28-46 PDT Moazin I was thinking of working as much as possible for the next few days and taking time off from 20 to 25 June. 2020-06-18 00-14-12 PDT Moazin Interestingly, both of them do the opposite job. One is path -> digraph and the other one is digraph -> path :D 2020-06-17 10-29-16 PDT Moazin Do you guys think it'd be possible? 2020-06-18 00-16-25 PDT Moazin I have learned some other words too. bord -> edge, batard -> bastard, aretes -> edges 2020-06-17 10-31-50 PDT Moazin A brief update on the project: I finished the work with Path Simplification (which was the goal for the first two weeks) and am working on understanding the Path -> Digraph -> Path part. 2020-06-17 10-59-47 PDT Thomas Holder @moazin I think your thesis should have highest priority. Your progress looks great so far, taking a week off to work on the thesis is perfectly fine with me. 2020-06-17 12-04-23 PDT Patrick Ha, next-level overloads :-D

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 99 Messages, 5 Files, 1158016 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: leonard.shelby & ipatch
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29 Apr '21

2019-02-18 10-08-13 PST Leonard Shelby I am afraid I am not experienced enough, but I'd like to help where I can 2019-02-14 12-54-21 PST Leonard Shelby Screenshot 2019-02-14 at 21.53.52.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/vmcft5qC4ptyBwLKv/Screenshot%202019-0…) 2019-02-16 12-30-45 PST Leonard Shelby yep, that arm does the hw encryption also 2019-02-16 12-22-08 PST Leonard Shelby of course, getting it signed asap won't hurt 2019-02-16 13-53-24 PST Leonard Shelby and most of what i do happens in chrome already.. just some apps like inkscape, photoshop, freeecad,.. don't have a web frontend yet 2019-02-16 12-16-45 PST Leonard Shelby yeah i don't use it either. that dialogue is default for all apps outside of their garden now 2019-02-16 11-49-24 PST Leonard Shelby but while it is in a tab, the mouse pointer does not hit the right spot 2019-02-18 10-10-03 PST Leonard Shelby I use both apps on a day to day basis, also both apps compiled from terminal.. :/ 2019-02-16 13-30-30 PST Leonard Shelby i'm peeking hard at chrome/chromium os 2019-02-18 10-17-40 PST Leonard Shelby how about you? 2019-02-14 12-57-10 PST Leonard Shelby inkview is just a viewer, but that probably means once I get to compile/run it without errors, it will be hires as well 2019-02-16 12-25-00 PST Leonard Shelby the viewer gets sluggish on retina when the window is big 2019-02-14 12-35-03 PST Leonard Shelby same for 'make install' 2019-02-16 13-18-19 PST Leonard Shelby the new macbook air does not have one either.. but it has that arm chip 2019-02-16 11-56-07 PST Leonard Shelby `gtk_window_set_transient_for(GTK_WINDOW(data->dialog), GTK_WINDOW(dt_ui_main_window(darktable.gui->ui)));` 2019-02-16 12-13-14 PST Leonard Shelby Screenshot 2019-02-16 at 21.13.03.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/gp53o5RTJksBsH9Ex/Screenshot%202019-0…) 2019-02-16 12-29-26 PST Leonard Shelby for the new air and mbp w touchbar.. they have an arm chip with some secure boot stuff that makes it impossible 2019-02-16 11-49-02 PST Leonard Shelby as a workaround you can drag the tabs out and it will be in a new window 2019-02-16 12-31-24 PST Leonard Shelby besides those ssd's being soldered onto the mainboard, just like the ram 2019-02-16 11-44-44 PST Leonard Shelby Screenshot 2019-02-16 at 20.28.19.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/xMEZcudCSTgMk4g86/Screenshot%202019-0…) 2019-02-14 11-56-28 PST Leonard Shelby that fixed it, maybe it's something to add to your instructions 2019-02-16 13-58-58 PST Leonard Shelby maybe, or any other nice hardware that runs chrome efficient 2019-02-18 10-12-40 PST Leonard Shelby i invent simple products.. so I do the logo design, instruction manuals, patent drawings.. all in inkscape 2019-02-15 13-42-48 PST Leonard Shelby It is so much better than the public available 0.9x dmg's. Even when it is not signed, has no native menu yet, ..are you working on an app bundle/dmg? 2019-02-16 13-17-00 PST Leonard Shelby oh, no.. i like to have an esc key 2019-02-16 12-21-31 PST Leonard Shelby they will tighten it even more as was said in #team_devel_mac 2019-02-16 13-24-49 PST Leonard Shelby "Putting the MacBook Pro into suspend mode works, but it doesn't wake up again." 2019-02-16 13-25-01 PST Leonard Shelby that's just ridiculous 2019-02-16 12-34-24 PST Leonard Shelby and I don't want to use windows 2019-02-16 14-00-17 PST Leonard Shelby i am kind of trying to shift to webapps, so that i can transition away from apple someday 2019-02-16 11-45-50 PST Leonard Shelby theres just no need for a right-click to run the app when signed 2019-02-16 11-57-23 PST Leonard Shelby "Dialog windows should be set transient for the main application window they were spawned from. This allows window managers to e.g. keep the dialog on top of the main window, or center the dialog over the main window. gtk_dialog_new_with_buttons() and other convenience functions in GTK+ will sometimes call gtk_window_set_transient_for() on your behalf." 2019-02-16 12-33-36 PST Leonard Shelby i've been checking out some laptops but can't find anything that i'd go for at the moment 2019-02-16 11-51-36 PST Leonard Shelby i'm not a coder.. and c++ stuff is hard to read for me. anyway, I'm comparing the inkscape code with the darktable code right now as darktable has got that one sorted. 2019-02-16 12-27-43 PST Leonard Shelby no audio, no wifi,.. 2019-02-16 12-36-00 PST Leonard Shelby i hate the mac keyboard for its unreliability. i have to keep it perfectly clean and still get sticky/non moving keys from time to time 2019-02-14 11-47-03 PST Leonard Shelby (I have downloaded the MASTER source from gitlab and started cmake from that directory) 2019-02-16 12-20-10 PST Leonard Shelby right 2019-02-14 11-56-06 PST Leonard Shelby "brew unlink gettext && brew link --force gettext" 2019-02-16 12-27-12 PST Leonard Shelby on older ones it might work... for the current ones i believe it is impossible 2019-02-16 10-59-35 PST Leonard Shelby yes, a signed app would be nice, and soon probably even required. but the available inkscape builds are not yet signed as well. 2019-02-16 11-46-47 PST Leonard Shelby walls are en vogue, i guess :/ 2019-02-14 12-37-23 PST Leonard Shelby `turbos-MBP:inkscape-master turbo$ ./bin/inkscape ** (process:27398): WARNING **: 21:36:31.563: Units file /Users/turbo/Downloads/inkscape-master/share/inkscape/ui/units.xml is missing: Failed to open file ?/Users/turbo/Downloads/inkscape-master/share/inkscape/ui/units.xml?: No such file or directory (process:27398): Gtk-WARNING **: 21:36:31.564: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. ** ( :27398): WARNING **: 21:36:31.739: Failed to load resource: style.css from /Users/turbo/.config/inkscape/ui/style.css or /Users/turbo/Downloads/inkscape-master/share/inkscape/ui/style.css ** ( :27398): WARNING **: 21:36:31.739: Failed to load resource: menus.xml from /Users/turbo/.config/inkscape/ui/menus.xml or /Users/turbo/Downloads/inkscape-master/share/inkscape/ui/menus.xml ** ( :27398): WARNING **: 21:36:31.739: Can't open file: (doesn't exist) ** ( :27398): WARNING **: 21:36:31.740: Unable to open PowerPoint fontfix file: /Users/turbo/Downloads/inkscape-master/share/inkscape/extensions/fontfix.conf PowerPoint ungrouping compensation in WMF/EMF export will not be available. Pango version: 1.42.4 ** ( :27398): WARNING **: 21:36:31.764: Fonts dir '/Users/turbo/Downloads/inkscape-master/share/inkscape/fonts' does not exist and will be ignored. ** ( :27398): WARNING **: 21:36:31.764: Fonts dir '/Users/turbo/.config/inkscape/fonts' does not exist and will be ignored. ** ( :27398): WARNING **: 21:36:31.764: Failed to load resource: inkscape-application.xml from /Users/turbo/.config/inkscape/ui/inkscape-application.xml or /Users/turbo/Downloads/inkscape-master/share/inkscape/ui/inkscape-application.xml InkscapeApplication: file not read! ( :27398): glibmm-CRITICAL **: 21:36:31.764: unhandled exception (type Glib::Error) in signal handler: domain: g_convert_error code : 1 what : Invalid byte sequence in conversion input` 2019-02-16 12-12-17 PST Leonard Shelby Screenshot 2019-02-16 at 21.10.54.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/tu2e6rJZ6QnGCeNsz/Screenshot%202019-0…) 2019-02-18 10-09-14 PST Leonard Shelby another open source app I am using is facing the same issues right now (freecad) 2019-02-14 12-34-52 PST Leonard Shelby it got to 100%, but the last lines were errors: make[2]: *** [share/templates/CMakeFiles/inkscape_default_svg] Error 2 make[1]: *** [share/templates/CMakeFiles/inkscape_default_svg.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 2019-02-14 12-29-55 PST Leonard Shelby I am getting an unlimited amount of warnings during make right know.. but fingers crossed, 85%.. 2019-02-16 11-48-26 PST Leonard Shelby there is just one annoying bug that i come across.. new inkscape gtk windows open as tabs. that's fine for documents, but not for open/save/about/pref dialogues 2019-02-16 13-55-32 PST Leonard Shelby touch and stylus support 2019-02-16 13-20-06 PST Leonard Shelby although thats probably archievable with some hacking i guess 2019-02-16 13-52-27 PST Leonard Shelby it is lean and fast 2019-02-15 13-37-17 PST Leonard Shelby Hey.. I have copied the folders from inkscape/share/ dir to inkscape/share/inkscape/ and it runs.. thanks for your help! 2019-02-16 13-55-10 PST Leonard Shelby and well, it is embracing touch. that's really what bugs me the most on macbooks 2019-02-16 11-46-23 PST Leonard Shelby yes, apple is building its walled garden 2019-02-16 12-27-34 PST Leonard Shelby i've tried a few distros on mine (late 2016).. no chance 2019-02-14 12-47-12 PST Leonard Shelby the compiled inkview binary works, also in retina :) 2019-02-14 12-35-45 PST Leonard Shelby and trying to run the binary i get a few warnings + critical error 2019-02-16 11-50-09 PST Leonard Shelby the 'hit area' is below the pointer. exactly the height of the tab-bar 2019-02-16 13-17-46 PST Leonard Shelby yes 2019-02-16 12-26-13 PST Leonard Shelby on a macbook? 2019-02-16 13-23-25 PST Leonard Shelby https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux 2019-02-16 13-19-38 PST Leonard Shelby exactly. no audio, no wifi, .. actually, even on latest live distros not even working graphics or even keyboard 2019-02-18 10-11-44 PST Leonard Shelby yes, it is my swiss army knife for everything related to vector gfx 2019-02-16 13-26-19 PST Leonard Shelby also palm rejection is something that I have never been happy about in linux or windows 2019-02-14 11-45-43 PST Leonard Shelby Hi! I'm following your instruction for the gitlab source homebrew build. cmake fails for me: CMake Error at /usr/local/Cellar/cmake/3.13.4/share/cmake/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:137 (message): Failed to find Gettext libintl (missing: Intl_INCLUDE_DIR). I don't know how to fix that, can you give me a hint? 2019-02-14 12-50-04 PST capin yeah the icons were updated for hidpi 2019-02-16 12-02-45 PST capin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBDtCh3hQ78 2019-02-16 13-24-19 PST capin wow 2019-02-16 12-12-51 PST capin what do your security settings look like in system prefs 2019-02-16 12-30-21 PST capin yeah i've heard about that. don't really care tbh cuz it doesn't affect me. and i've heard that the storage can't be upgraded either 2019-02-16 13-18-19 PST capin and some of your hardware still doesn't work with a 4.x series linux kernel? 2019-02-16 10-19-05 PST capin yeah i spent some time working on bundling an **.app** using the native CMake tooling, along with doing some research, ie. I believe CMake also supports codesigning along with DMG building. 2019-02-16 12-26-22 PST capin yeah 2019-02-16 12-46-19 PST capin i take it you bought a mbp with a touchbar? 2019-02-16 12-13-13 PST capin Screen Shot 2019-02-16 at 2.08.55 PM.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/e3aWid5MsipJ5obck/Screen%20Shot%20201…) 2019-02-16 13-17-25 PST capin is the 2016 model the last one without a touchbar? 2019-02-16 12-28-26 PST capin really didn't know that. and yeah my box will be 6 years old this year. real glad it still works great, and def not planning on buying a new mpb when and if upgrade my box 2019-02-18 10-19-15 PST capin nice. don't get paid to do work with Inkscape, main squeeze is primarily web dev 2019-02-16 13-58-07 PST capin ohhh so you are refferring to using a chromebook? 2019-02-16 12-02-45 PST capin maybe i'm missing something but i don't get prompted about security settings. 2019-02-16 12-30-48 PST capin and messed around with those keyboards on the new mbp and their awful 2019-02-16 13-17-52 PST capin nice 2019-02-16 12-29-10 PST capin i helped get the webcam drv for linux going a few years back for my box 2019-02-16 13-44-53 PST capin hmmm, haven't messed with chrome OS at all. how is that different from something like Ubuntu / Debian? does it have better hardware support for your box? 2019-02-18 10-10-41 PST capin is your main squeeze using inkscape for gfx work? 2019-02-16 14-52-32 PST capin yup yup 2019-02-18 10-10-11 PST capin lulz 2019-02-16 12-26-46 PST capin then migrated away back to macOS 2019-02-18 10-10-01 PST capin haven't messed with freecad yet, i'll try and take a look here in a bit. 2019-02-16 11-43-07 PST capin hmmm, i don't remember if the one i downloaded from the inkscape website was signed or not ...downloaded it a while back. 2019-02-16 12-26-35 PST capin i used run arch a few years back 2019-02-16 12-15-45 PST capin interesting, i wonder if i've set my settings to be more relaxed somewhere through the CLI and have forgotten what i've set. 🤷‍♂️ and personally i don't use any app store apps on macOS so building a bundle that is compatible with the mac app store isn't relevant to me at all. 2019-02-16 13-24-28 PST capin that's pretty shitty 2019-02-14 12-28-29 PST capin i tend to build things in an env that i **don't** use for daily work. ie. a custom `$PATH` and what not to avoid those sort of errors. 2019-02-16 12-25-13 PST capin yeah i need to invest more time in moving away from macOS as my primary OS 2019-02-16 11-45-32 PST capin i'm on 10.13.x if that makes a difference 2019-02-16 12-17-25 PST capin hmmm that must be something they've tightened since the release of 10.14 2019-02-16 12-28-43 PST capin really that's lame 2019-02-18 10-05-45 PST capin you have plans for trying to build an app bundle of Inkscape v1.x ?

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2020-12-17 10-15-43 PST Izumi Midoriya hello 2021-01-04 12-09-47 PST Moini Private Group (room_changed_privacy)

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2020-05-10 13-06-33 PDT Moazin Hi Thomas, could you please share your email address? I wanted to start a discussion over email with all the mentors regarding how I am going to spend the community bonding period. 2020-05-10 13-09-00 PDT Moazin Thanks 2020-05-10 13-08-38 PDT Thomas Holder thomas(a)thomas-holder.de

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2020-12-08 16-45-45 PST 💖Dera💖 hello. 2020-12-08 16-50-20 PST 💖Dera💖 ok i'm back 2020-12-08 16-46-46 PST 💖Dera💖 If you join i am afk for rn 2020-12-08 16-43-34 PST 💖Dera💖 Room name changed to: girlsclub by Dera 2021-01-04 12-09-23 PST Moini Private Group (room_changed_privacy) 2020-12-09 16-01-17 PST 💖Dera💖 no_quiz was set owner by Dera 2020-12-09 16-01-30 PST 💖Dera💖 no_quiz was set moderator by Dera 2020-12-09 16-01-05 PST 💖Dera💖 no_quiz was set leader by Dera 2020-12-09 16-01-26 PST 💖Dera💖 no_quiz is no longer leader by Dera 2020-12-09 16-01-41 PST 💖Dera💖 no_quiz is no longer moderator by Dera 2020-12-09 16-01-23 PST 💖Dera💖 no_quiz is no longer owner by Dera 2020-12-08 18-47-08 PST NO_QUIZ Has joined the channel.

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2019-05-28 07-15-36 PDT Jabier Arraiza could you explain in #team_devel, more people better 2019-05-28 07-14-09 PDT Jabier Arraiza Hi, are you in hackfest? 2019-05-28 06-53-57 PDT Jabier Arraiza hi 2019-05-28 07-16-13 PDT Jabier Arraiza you are welcome 2019-05-28 07-12-23 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva i got the reson 2019-05-28 07-14-21 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva nop 2019-05-28 06-08-01 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva hi 2019-05-28 07-15-52 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva ahh 2019-05-28 07-12-28 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva reason** 2019-05-28 07-14-36 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva i am from Brazil 2019-05-28 07-15-55 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva thank you 2019-05-28 07-12-37 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva but i do not know how to fix 2019-05-28 07-16-26 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva thank you again 2019-05-28 07-11-25 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva i was without internet 2019-05-28 06-39-20 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva hi 2019-05-28 07-15-52 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva ok 2019-05-28 07-12-16 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva i am trying to fix it 2019-05-28 06-08-02 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva good morning 2019-05-28 07-14-42 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva it is so far of me 2019-05-28 07-12-05 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva i noticed some problem in new plugin process 2019-05-28 07-11-14 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva hi 2019-05-28 07-14-43 PDT Ederson Luiz Silva :(

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2020-10-04 10-25-15 PDT Judith Mott first time user....trying to select font for text. will click on font and it shows in the selection box but when I select size it goes back to "ink free" ????? How do I get it to use the font I select.

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2020-10-11 15-40-19 PDT Jabier Arraiza Puedes confirmarme si en el ultimo cambio no casca el appimage? 2020-10-10 19-00-21 PDT Jabier Arraiza 4AM slicing..... 2020-10-12 13-10-09 PDT Jabier Arraiza no no lo utilizan 2020-06-14 18-34-23 PDT Jabier Arraiza Muchas gracias!!!!! 2020-10-10 18-32-56 PDT Jabier Arraiza joder con mi castellano 2020-10-10 18-53-26 PDT Jabier Arraiza de todas maneras he arreglado el slice para que fucione con toda la familia ;) 2020-12-14 12-03-31 PST Jabier Arraiza Ya lo miraré gracias! 2020-10-10 18-33-08 PDT Jabier Arraiza peor que el ingles!!!! 2020-10-10 18-15-11 PDT Jabier Arraiza llamalo satelite y original, es mas claro 2020-10-07 13-48-04 PDT Jabier Arraiza Buenos días, disculpa la tardanza estaba liado. No es más facil, es simplemente mas potente. El tema es que los LPE no son destructivos y pueden generar elementos que lo modifiqen como knots (puntos verdes), paths(curva bend) o otros elementos basados en el elemento original(mirror symmetry con split items o meassure segments), no obstante algunos se añaden a la interface sin necesidad del dialogo, como en las curvas spiro o bspline con la herramienta pen/cil. Espero haberte aclarado!!!! 2020-10-11 15-45-14 PDT Jabier Arraiza Solo para tu informacion la parte importante de un backtrace la obitienes poniendo bt enter al final 2020-10-11 02-49-22 PDT Jabier Arraiza i see the MR feed 2020-10-10 18-32-43 PDT Jabier Arraiza jerarquia 2020-10-11 02-49-27 PDT Jabier Arraiza lo vi! 2020-10-10 18-16-07 PDT Jabier Arraiza hereda la forma y opcionalmente lar traslaciones. Tambien se pueden resetear los estilos al original 2020-10-11 15-09-59 PDT Jabier Arraiza joderrr que me olvido que hablas mi idioma!!!! 2020-10-11 15-09-16 PDT Jabier Arraiza no problem usualy is better one comment but if has videos visualy you loose position/reference 2020-10-10 18-59-23 PDT Jabier Arraiza creo que ahora esta mejor ya me diras, voy a dormir 2020-10-10 18-17-36 PDT Jabier Arraiza hijos impica una gerarquia de arbol que no existe 2020-10-12 02-13-11 PDT Jabier Arraiza Tienes que compilar en modo debug (va mas lento) añadiendo a tu orden de cmake: `-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug` 2020-10-08 05-48-21 PDT Jabier Arraiza No estoy de acuerdo, los LPE permiten extender capacidades,luego si se aplican al flujo normal porque son muy útiles perfecto. Y si requieren computación extra depende de cada lpe y de la acción aplicada 2020-10-11 02-36-26 PDT Jabier Arraiza I have todat 2 messages, you remove it, no crash? 2020-10-11 15-09-40 PDT Jabier Arraiza you test latest commit? 2020-10-10 19-00-28 PDT Jabier Arraiza time to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 2020-10-11 16-52-12 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jabiertxof?msg=viBrqNrJHBBQXcRuc) A ver, déjame probar... () 2020-12-14 00-37-12 PST Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Creo que algunos de estos ya están en Inkscape, pero aquí tienes algunas ideas para crear LPEs ya que veo que es como que lo que mejor sabes hacer o más te ha gustado por estos días: https://www.arakne.es/en/inkscape-1-0-shapes-extension-new-version/ 2020-10-11 16-56-22 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Tengo entendido que se llaman debug symbols... Pero no sé cuáles son los debug symbols of Inkscape 2020-10-11 13-19-09 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Y lo siento por poner todo en un solo comentario {>. 2020-10-10 18-14-03 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Es decir, aparte de heredar únicamente la posición cuando el padre es movido y el `Allow transform` está inactivo, ¿Hereda algo más? 2020-10-10 18-58-58 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Déjame probarlo... Ya vi el commit. 2020-10-10 18-34-02 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Lo importante, *a veces*, es la comunicación, no el medio. 2020-10-10 18-33-18 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Inglés, Español, Castellano... It always happens. 2020-10-06 22-11-32 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez A eso me refiero. 2020-10-11 16-52-00 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Sí. Es un crash de hace bastante tiempo ya, solo que ahora se propagó del `File > Open` al `File > Save`. master parece estar sumamente inestable por etos días. 2020-06-14 11-46-04 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Además puedes instalar Grammarly, el cual te ofrece fuertes correcciones de escritura en casi cualquier campo de texto. Realmente es potente y ofrece estadísticas bastante útiles, pero no es más que una herramienta y, como todas, a veces te dejará pensando si es correcto o no lo que ofrece. 2020-10-06 22-09-03 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Una pregunta: ¿Es más fácil hacer un LPE que implementar "eso mismo" en Inkscape? 2020-10-11 13-19-50 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Es que en los inbox es preferible un solo comentario porque sino el correo se llena de ruido. 2020-10-10 18-33-38 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Pero como siempre digo a la gente que sueleve vivir corrigiendo: Si entendiste, no lo dijo mal. 2020-10-10 18-59-55 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Qué haces despierto jajajaja 2020-06-14 11-46-22 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Es todo. Saludos desde Venezuela. :grin: 2020-10-10 18-14-48 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez En condiciones especiales, no lo sé. 2020-06-14 11-44-29 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Te recomiendo encarecidamente que uses https://www.deepl.com/Translator en vez del traductor de Google. Este primero es mucho más capaz y te permite corregir las frases y contextos en la traducción. 2020-10-06 22-10-55 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez No me he puesto hasta ahora a revisar los LPEs ni su UX ni nada de ellos... Solo sé que existen y en muchas ocaciones utilizo mucho dos o tres de ellos... Pero sí me he dado cuenta que los desarrolladores han preferido incluir LPEs más que una implementación directa en Inkscape... No sé si me explico. 2020-10-10 18-30-14 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Gracias por aclarar. 2020-06-14 11-43-28 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez ¡Hola! Veo que siempre resaltas que tu Inglés no es el más adecuado. Yo lo veo bastante bien, aunque no sé qué tan difícil se te haga leerlo. 2020-10-11 16-55-44 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez 0x00007ffff7fc5bd8 in ?? () 2020-10-11 16-54-39 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Wow es bastante in formación @_@ 2020-12-14 00-37-56 PST Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Creo que algunos ya se podría decir que existen, pero en general con los vídeos se ven bastante bien. 2020-10-06 22-11-36 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jabiertxof?msg=dMTeDu2JnKsPZZeGn) Returning: () 2020-10-12 13-05-17 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Ah claro... Gracias. Yo hago eso en local, pero supongo que los GitLab's AppImages no utilizan ese flag en su script, ¿o me equivoco? 2020-10-11 13-18-53 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Jajaja sí te lo había escrito por aquí pensando que no iba a abrir GitLab pero como no lo pude replicar en Master (compilado, no en AppImage) me intrigó mucho porque casi pierdo un trabajo como de 30 minutos (La imagen que puse en #team_ux)... Así que me puse a testear para hacer un comentario. 2020-10-10 18-14-34 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Color, forma, propiedades, atributos... 2020-12-14 00-38-32 PST Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez ¡Suerte! 2020-10-10 18-59-48 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Descansa, Jabier. Feliz... 2020-10-06 22-08-38 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Buenos días Jabier... 2020-10-06 22-11-23 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Por ejemplo, tu Slider: ¿Existe una forma de hacer slide en Inkscape (sin LPE)? 2020-10-11 16-55-40 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez ¿Qué necesito instalar para que no me salgan los signos de interrocación en el backtrace? 2020-10-10 19-00-03 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Ya duerme tranquilo 2020-10-07 15-36-22 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Ok, comprendo perfectamente. Ahora bien, ¿Se ve afectado el rendimiento de Inkscape tras la aplicación de un LPE, o el LPE hace que el objeto afectado se convierta en un objeto nuevo? — Es decir, tras aplicar una serie de LPEs a un objeto (me refiero solo a seleccionarlos, no a "Apply", lo cual destruiría el LPE), ¿se necesitan recalcular las cosas cuando le cambio el color al objeto o lo muevo? 2020-10-10 18-59-49 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Wow 2020-10-07 16-24-43 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Verás tengo mucho tiempo sin actualizar mi inbox#1461, pero hay algo que me perturba un poco y es que yo no considero que los LPE deban existir como herramientas aparte >>>nada más<<<. El historial o la forma en la que Inkscape maneja el historial es extremadamente básica, y si bien es cierto que gracias a Command Palette y Macros esto podrá ser mitigado, aún así considero que muchísimas características de todo esto pueden combinarse en un solo diáligo. En este sentido, para Inkscape hacer un Boolean Operation no será diferente de aplicar (literalmente, "Apply") un LPE. Haciéndo posible hacer modificaciones justo después de presionar el atajo de teclado de la Boolean Operation deseada. — Esto también aplica para Transforms, Fill and Stroke, Selection, Text, o básicamente cualquier posible movimiento que haga el usuario... Esto es más o menos como funciona Blender, aunque tú no puedes hacer una modificación y luego hacer otra y luego Ctrl + Z para modificar la anterior. Con Inkscape y ese sistema eso sí sería posible, y solo necesita UI Design, porque en términos prácticos todo eso ya existe en Inkscape, pero no es accesible por el usuario. 2020-12-14 00-38-28 PST Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Es una página de una extensión de Inkscape que hace exactamente eso, así que creo que hasta podrías aprovechar ese mismo código. No tengo idea. 2020-10-10 18-58-26 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez Hm... No sé cómo interpretar eso. 2020-10-10 18-13-29 PDT Jean Franco Amoni Rodríguez ¿El hijo de de un slide hereda algo de su padre tras el separamiento?

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29 Apr '21

2019-06-04 03-49-38 PDT Geoffrey Fabry can you advise me here? 2019-06-04 04-01-09 PDT Geoffrey Fabry i will have a look at the link you've send me, thanks for that! 2019-06-04 04-00-21 PDT Geoffrey Fabry I just want the best solution and if Axidraw is the one, then that's the one :p 2019-06-04 03-59-56 PDT Geoffrey Fabry no problem 2019-06-04 03-49-33 PDT Geoffrey Fabry Hi Windell, sorry to bother you :-) 2019-06-04 03-59-46 PDT Windell Oskay There is a special software package for AxiDraw owners, called AxiDraw Merge, that does what you're asking. You can read the user guide for it here, and see if that would meet your needs: https://evilmadscience.s3.amazonaws.com/wiki/axidraw/software/axi-merge_v25… 2019-06-04 04-00-49 PDT Windell Oskay Well, please evaluate available data and make the right decision. No one wins if you're not happy with one of our machines. 2019-06-04 03-58-55 PDT Windell Oskay I can, but I am the author of the AxiDraw software, so you should understand that I'm not a neutral party.

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29 Apr '21

2020-06-20 16-23-57 PDT d_duque68 What opinion do you deserve of this article that I recently found ... 2020-06-20 16-21-47 PDT d_duque68 Excuse me @Moini, I recently joined this suggested form of documentation and I do not have a good knowledge of it, I appreciate your valuable contribution. Thank you. 2020-06-20 16-24-29 PDT d_duque68 https://www.hackeame.net/como-abrir-archivos-eps-en-inkscape-aqui-la-soluci… 2020-06-20 16-27-26 PDT Moini I don't want to read a Spanish article about something I already know and do not need. Now please move your questions to the correct channel. Thank you!

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29 Apr '21

2020-04-04 07-54-16 PDT Tim Jones Hi Ryan did you add access to Gitlab for Sonia? If not, can you please, many thanks :-) 2020-12-05 02-55-26 PST Tim Jones Hi Ryan, great to hear from you, I'm glad you are going to be joining the meeting today! Nice to have you back...☺️ I can lead the meeting, it's not a problem. 👍 There is a UI/UX brainstorm meeting one hour before Vectors if you want to lurk about there? I'm not sure what it's about? See you later. 🤗 2020-06-08 12-08-30 PDT Tim Jones Yeah, I agree, here's to next time and fighting the good fight... ;-) 2020-04-04 07-55-38 PDT Tim Jones not sure, I will talk her through it later, I've been super busy looking after parents etc... I'm a bit behind with everything thats going on... 2020-05-03 01-44-00 PDT Tim Jones Yes, of course, ready and waiting... I made contact with the guys from Destination Linux Network. They have a network of YouTube channels and huge viewer numbers. I spoke to the guy in charge, he was very keen to push out Inkscape news whenever it's available, now, and in the future! 2020-04-04 07-56-23 PDT Tim Jones You are a STAR sir! ;-) 2020-06-06 10-06-22 PDT Tim Jones Thanks Ryan ;-) 2020-05-05 07-43-30 PDT Tim Jones Hi Ryan, I was just looking at the Vectors Team Page: https://inkscape.org/*inkscape-vectors/ It occured to me, we should update our Vectors membership to better show case everyone involved. Is that something we can do? (if so how?) Or do we need Martin to add people? I'm just concious he is probably burnt out at the moment, and also, planning a break soon! 2020-05-02 11-05-58 PDT Tim Jones Thanks for getting back to me, 😊. Ahh, I see, no worries, I thought I was going crazy for a moment... lol 2020-05-02 08-09-46 PDT Tim Jones Hi Ryan, Is there a Vectors meeting today? 2020-06-06 13-24-22 PDT Tim Jones Hi Ryan,\ I had a chat on Discord with Nick earlier, he seems like a nice guy. I think we need to strengthen our Vectors stand point about Social outreach and On-boarding new people.\ Where ever there is an Inkscape community, be that on a "Free-Libre" platform or a Proprietary platform, we should not discriminate, they are Inkscape users and potential Contributors of the future.\ I know our Dev's push back on Proprietary platforms, but we are Social Outreach, it is part of our Mantra to reach out to these people and bring them into the fold.\ No Group or person should feel, or be made to feel like a second class citizen because they choose to talk about Inkscape on a non-free platform. The important thing is, they are part of the Inkscape "Community". We had an amazing turn out for the About Screen contest... 90% of entries came from users who are active on Facebook. Proprietary platforms cannot be ignored or pushed to the side, we need to embrace them and bring them in gradually, not put up Walls. Our biggest user base is Windows... I know the Team want everyone to be on the Forum or Rocket Chat, but that's not the real world. People will congregate where they want, we have to accept that and embrace it. (IMHO) I would love to hear your view, perhaps I'm too idealistic...? Thanks for doing all that you do, and always being a foundation for the Vectors Team. ;-) 2020-10-24 03-40-35 PDT Tim Jones Hi Ryan, Hope everything is ok? Just checking in... Stay safe and well. 🙂 2020-10-21 04-11-10 PDT Tim Jones Hi Ryan, :wave: I have finished editing the Inkscope Podcast interview with Sven Ebert. :movie_camera: I was wondering if it would be ok to get access to the YouTube channel, so I could upload directly myself? The video is in 1080p resolution with a 3.6GB file size. It might get a bit awkward expecting others to download the file from me, then upload to Youtube...? I understand if you would rather not increase the number of people with access, so don't worry about offending me... ;-) You might remember volunteering to be interviewed on the Podcast... :thinking: Can we make that arrangement now! :pray: I would like to keep the momentum going, if I can. :-) 2020-06-22 07-31-13 PDT Tim Jones Ryan, my dad was rushed into hospital last week, I've been going in every day. He had a heart attack last night. The doctors have advised me to stay in with him. I'm in a bit of a mess to be honest. Can you let the others know I wont be around for a while. I need to be with dad. Sorry to put this on you. Tim 2020-06-07 03-51-46 PDT Tim Jones Thanks, Ryan, I really appreciate your considered point of view. I believe we have a process to store login credentials in case a maintainer of a platform disappears? I think Maren knows more about that process, I will speak to her about it. I know Proprietary platforms can never be "Official" but we should perhaps look at some sort of "Affiliation" Badge. As long as the maintainer is active in the Inkscape team and attends Vectors meetings etc... Something to ponder and discuss at some point maybe? Thanks again for your support, it means alot! ;-) 2020-04-04 07-56-06 PDT Ryan Gorley No worries. She should be set on this side. 2020-06-22 07-40-35 PDT Ryan Gorley Of course! I'm so sorry, Tim. I'll be praying for you and your dad. 2020-06-06 14-13-01 PDT Ryan Gorley Yada yada. You're the man in charge. Let's do it. :) 2020-06-08 10-40-40 PDT Ryan Gorley I just read the issue and it seems like we were able to navigate that issue without too much drama. It's going to come up again I'm sure, but we'll keep pushing to be inclusive. 2020-06-06 09-42-05 PDT Ryan Gorley Thank you, Tim, for being willing to take on a more formal role helping us nurture the community. You have such talent in that regard. Don't feel like you need to do it alone, but I think your talents will go a long way here. 2020-06-06 14-09-06 PDT Ryan Gorley As a matter of resources we may need to encourage people who want "official" support to use the forum or Rocket.Chat. Spreading our attention too thinly is why we ended up consolidating forums in the first place, and it is a problem if people are going to Discord to get support. But that doesn't mean these communities can't serve each other (which is frankly what happens in most cases anyway), and when we have a larger team we can have a designated person for these platforms. As far as Discord, Nick sounds like he's committed to keeping that going, so there we go. 2020-06-06 14-06-08 PDT Ryan Gorley My biggest concern would be that we have adequate access to these groups that someone can't just hijack it and walk away, or more likely, lose interest and let it rot with no ability to claim it. 2020-05-04 11-16-38 PDT Ryan Gorley Sorry I missed this. Yeah, they're a fun group. Great work! 2020-05-02 10-11-10 PDT Ryan Gorley Sorry! We had it last week because we thought the launch would be yesterday. We missed you. I should have sent out a reminder it wasn't happening today. 2020-05-02 22-02-51 PDT Ryan Gorley Well, we missed you last week. I'm glad you're still healthy! It sounds like we will _probably_ be releasing 1.0 Monday evening. I've got to hear back from Chris, but I may solicit your help pushing an announcement out to Facebook if you're available. 2020-12-04 16-25-49 PST Ryan Gorley Hey @Tim, sorry I've been out of touch. I hope to join in the meeting tomorrow. It's probably best if I don't try to lead that though, since I'm a ways out of the loop. Is someone else taking care of that? 2020-04-04 07-54-39 PDT Ryan Gorley Yes, I did. Is she having trouble getting in? 2020-05-05 09-07-54 PDT Ryan Gorley I think people can actually just join the group of the have a login on the site. I don't think there is any restriction. Let me see if I can do anything with my permissions... 2020-06-06 14-04-49 PDT Ryan Gorley I agree wholeheartedly. Twitter is proprietary, so is Facebook. I recognize that we should not require people to be on those platforms to interact with the project, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't meet people where they are at. 2020-06-06 14-12-30 PDT Ryan Gorley You can tell I don't feel as strongly about this as Martin. Let's welcome this community into the fold, along with any others that are floating around. Gimpscape (https://gimpscape.org/) is a huge Indonesian community that we need to try to incorporate into the official project somehow, at least make sure that someone in charge over there knows we want to support them however we can. 2020-06-06 14-05-12 PDT Ryan Gorley While Mastodon is technically open source, we're still using some third-party to host it.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 31 Messages, 0 Files, 259585 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: Rachana & Moini
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29 Apr '21

2020-10-30 10-36-41 PDT Rachana Hi Maren! I am interested in documenting my changes in the release notes for Inkscape 1.1 :slightly_smiling_face: 2020-12-08 10-13-49 PST Rachana There is some math in the code that is connected to the range of calligraphy tool width(0-100) that I'm not entirely sure I understand, so I think this issue needs to be added to the backlog so someone better suited to work on this can pick it up 2020-10-30 10-44-39 PDT Rachana yup that's perfect, thank you 2020-10-30 10-41-04 PDT Rachana And just to confirm: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CreateAccount&returnto=W… 2020-12-08 10-14-22 PST Rachana Sorry for the late response, I've been busy with finals. Happy holidays :christmas_tree::slightly_smiling_face: 2020-10-30 10-43-35 PDT Rachana username: rachanapodaralla 2020-10-30 10-41-13 PDT Rachana this is the right link to create an account right? 2020-11-08 08-37-11 PST Rachana Let me know if I need to change anything, thank you! :) 2020-10-30 10-43-31 PDT Rachana Ah, sorry for the confusion! that makes sense :slightly_smiling_face: 2020-10-30 10-47-19 PDT Rachana Yes, thank you! :slightly_smiling_face: 2020-10-30 10-38-16 PDT Rachana Do I need to have a wiki account already? 2020-11-08 08-36-43 PST Rachana Hi Maren! So I added my updates to the release notes under the "Calligraphy Tool" section: https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php?title=Release_notes/1.1#Improvemen… 2020-12-08 10-11-21 PST Rachana Hi Maren! I took a look at increasing the maximum width for the calligraphy tool from 100 to 1000 2020-10-30 10-42-59 PDT Rachana oh okay, so you're going to create an account for me with my username/email? 2020-10-30 10-43-45 PDT Rachana email: rpodaralla3(a)gatech.edu 2020-12-10 05-45-38 PST Moini Hi Rachana, no problem, you don't need to justify yourself! I hope your finals went well, and I wish you all the best for any upcoming holidays! (yeah, that's a bit unspecific, but I don't know what and if you will celebrate anything ...) 2020-10-30 10-43-09 PDT Moini Yes, that's why I need them :) 2020-10-30 10-44-11 PDT Moini User name will start with a capital letter, that's a weird property of the Wiki. 2020-10-30 10-39-27 PDT Moini (but access is only on request, because of spam) 2020-10-30 10-46-38 PDT Moini Thanks for your help! 2020-10-30 10-42-05 PDT Moini (and you can't create an account there, only admins can) 2020-10-30 10-45-56 PDT Moini Your password is Chiethual8Zu . Please change it as soon as possible :) 2020-10-30 10-37-40 PDT Moini Hi Rachana! That would be great! For giving you access to the Wiki, I need an email address and a user name from you. 2020-10-30 10-44-49 PDT Moini Ok, copy-pasting... 2020-11-09 16-21-54 PST Moini Sorry, I forgot to reply ... Thank you for adding your new feature! 2020-10-30 10-44-28 PDT Moini So it's going to be Rachanapodaralla 2020-10-30 10-39-11 PDT Moini Yes, if you'd like to put your changes into the release notes, that's the only way :) It's a Wiki, everyone in the community can edit. 2020-10-30 10-41-52 PDT Moini That's Wikipedia! Our release notes are in the Inkscape wiki at https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php?title=Release_notes/1.1 2020-10-30 10-42-26 PDT Moini We're also using MediaWiki, like Wikipedia. 2020-10-30 10-46-28 PDT Moini You should be able to edit the Release notes now to add your work to them. 2020-10-30 10-39-59 PDT Moini It would help if every developer documented their own changes, but most don't.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 105 Messages, 0 Files, 1073266 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: SrrReal & michele
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29 Apr '21

2019-04-14 11-14-00 PDT SrrReal I am trying to understand the team in its fairly initial days... that's where this question comes from 2019-04-14 10-53-15 PDT SrrReal First things first... could you tell me a little bit about how you came to be a part of Inkscape? 2019-04-14 09-16-48 PDT SrrReal I want to check with you if we could chat for a bit about Inkscape? This is for the course project I am working on... I am studying Inkscape as a case of a FOSS community to understand how the identity of a community is shaped by its contributors. 2019-04-14 12-25-14 PDT SrrReal Haha that's true! Final question... Inkscape seems to have certain values, core to it - such as passion, patience - would you think there are ways in which this becomes visible to users or folks outside the community? 2019-04-14 10-59-32 PDT SrrReal over two years? 2019-04-14 12-46-41 PDT SrrReal no hurries! 2019-04-14 12-42-59 PDT SrrReal definitely! I am planning to share my draft ethnography with all of you - and I am hoping I can translate some of into non-academic useful posts/documents for the team and community 2019-04-14 11-34-19 PDT SrrReal Amazed because often one reads about how open source communities can be tough spaces to navigate? That there is a certain way you need to ask questions... that people maybe rude, etc, etc. Somehow, I don't see it here... Would you say Inkscape is different in that sense? 2019-04-14 12-36-37 PDT SrrReal Are there specific people you feel I should speak to, to better understand some of these things? 2019-04-14 10-50-16 PDT SrrReal Hi Michele, now would work for me as well! 2019-04-14 11-13-25 PDT SrrReal When you got on the Vectors team, what were some of the things you and others worked on at that time? 2019-04-14 12-40-59 PDT SrrReal Thanks a lot for your time to speak with me, I really appreciate it! 2019-04-14 12-05-20 PDT SrrReal Maren is a rockstar on the user channel from what I have seen! Always always seems to have answers for all kinds of questions relating to Inkscape! 2019-04-14 10-52-36 PDT SrrReal great! 2019-04-14 12-46-02 PDT SrrReal I was also wondering - I created the welcome survey as a doc... in the content repo... I wasn't sure how to proceed after this - https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/content/blob/master/articles/Welcome%20… 2019-04-14 10-51-35 PDT SrrReal I love how you are asking all the questions I thought I would be asking :'D 2019-04-14 12-44-53 PDT SrrReal Yes, more power to us! 2019-04-14 09-19-17 PDT SrrReal I have interacted with a few users so far and those who have made contributions on and off to Inkscape... It's helped me understand how they view Inkscape from the outside, what they value in it, etc. Now I am looking to speak with folks who have been more involved with the project to understand how they see Inkscape 2019-04-14 11-49-10 PDT SrrReal And to think that all of this is volunteer driven! different people, different takes - all come together. There's a lot of discussion, back and forth but it is always civil and respectful 2019-04-14 11-07-42 PDT SrrReal when you say you had become a big fan, that's because of their features? or being cost effective or other reasons? 2019-04-14 12-40-13 PDT SrrReal Perfect, I'll definitely go over the Facebook group as well! 2019-04-14 11-21-44 PDT SrrReal oh this was the article? the first one you worked on? 2019-04-14 12-23-02 PDT SrrReal yep, that's really useful. I'll remember to check some of the closed issues too! 2019-04-14 11-51-32 PDT SrrReal Like you had mentioned earlier, people discussed about choosing tools... how do discussions, where there is disagreement, get resolved? I am curious about this because the calm in the conversations almost feels natural 2019-04-14 12-35-00 PDT SrrReal yes, that does directly speak to my question on visibility. 2019-04-14 11-39-23 PDT SrrReal to an extent it does make sense... at least the good people part from what I have seen. Why do you say Inkscapers are also rebels? 2019-04-14 09-14-42 PDT SrrReal Hey Michele! 2019-04-14 09-19-50 PDT SrrReal Would you be interested in chatting about this? 2019-04-14 12-43-42 PDT SrrReal since it is only for a course project, it might be limited in scope but nevertheless I shall share my work 2019-04-14 11-24-15 PDT SrrReal introducing an open source doc meaning which tool to use? that sparked a lot of discussion? 2019-04-14 10-59-19 PDT SrrReal ah I see, so Vectors has been around for a while now? 2019-04-14 11-46-54 PDT SrrReal oh yes, the inkscape_user channel is brimming with life almost 24x7! 2019-04-14 12-46-14 PDT SrrReal ah ha, the timing! :D 2019-04-14 12-11-39 PDT SrrReal the issue flow seems useful once I figured out that's how it works. Once I opened my first issue, the chaos cleared and began to make better sense. I would assume it must intuitive now! But to begin with, it must have been a totally unheard of work flow, isn't it? How did we get here? 2019-04-14 11-12-25 PDT SrrReal Oh yes, totally. When I first opened a simple house clipart I had created, as a vector, I was thrilled to understand the math behind it! 2019-04-14 12-35-42 PDT SrrReal This has been such a great conversation, Michele! Very useful for my research as its given me a lot to think about and go over but also as a team member, very inspiring! 2019-04-14 12-46-34 PDT SrrReal sure! take your time! 2019-04-14 11-33-04 PDT SrrReal In the few weeks since I have joined I have witnessed the passion and patience repeatedly.. and I have been amazed! 2019-04-14 12-21-21 PDT SrrReal Oh okay, I'll make a note to look at some older issues to get the picture.. and I think the team has then come a long way, now using the repo for graphics as well 2019-04-14 10-50-38 PDT SrrReal It should take about 20-25 minutes. 2019-04-14 11-01-06 PDT SrrReal Thank you! I think earlier Ryan also mentioned that Vectors has been around for 2-3 years or so... I think he mentioned in the team meeting last week 2019-04-14 10-51-56 PDT SrrReal If it is okay to chat, we could continue this way? 2019-04-14 12-01-02 PDT SrrReal sure 2019-04-14 11-01-46 PDT SrrReal Just to go back to what you said... You were using Inkscape (versus other alternatives) because? 2019-04-14 12-00-32 PDT SrrReal could you give an example here? Maybe an instance where you felt people really collaborated well to get something done? working through decisions or differences patiently... 2019-04-14 11-49-27 PDT SrrReal where do you feel that comes from? 2019-04-14 12-49-47 PDT SrrReal Sure, we can collaborate on the issue and comments. Bye bye! 2019-04-14 12-23-22 PDT SrrReal Oh I didn't realise we have been chatting for close to 90 minutes! 2019-04-14 11-42-39 PDT Michèle Thibeau Oh definitely! People here seem to be outsiders, another good movie, or folks who don't need to conform to all of society's standards. I believe that this is part of the glue - spoken or not - that holds us together. I've learned more about some of the people here in the space and they have tremendous values and respect those who have different ones when we come together to share about advancing the project. Will this continue? Is it a continuum? Nothing stays the same in our world, in my humble experience. That's part of the beauty and the fragility. We are here now and next month things could change. Things will change. We are all volunteers, and so life and work and intrinsic motivation play powerful roles in how we interact and collaborate here. 2019-04-14 11-57-56 PDT Michèle Thibeau I hope that makes sense and answers at least one of your questions. 2019-04-14 11-55-55 PDT Michèle Thibeau People here are problem solvers. They have come to seek answers or to give back - to contribute. They come with respect - and if they don't, I don' t think they last long - and so they seek the same respect from others. This is a powerful, empowering community - at least this is what I have seen in my short time here. Are there personalities and history? Absolutely. At the same time, each one of us, as we contribute and interact, is changing the environment. We have choices to make in how we do it and why and when. In observing others at work and play, we see and we are invited to collaborate with allies. And to see everyone here as such. In my experience, I have seen a strong sense of people seeking to learn from each other, to lift up each other, to seek to encourage and empower each other to participate and grow. When things get negative, we have a choice in how or if we interact. Different people play different roles in this, perhaps others behind the scenes. It's all public and all open, so it's transparent - for good or for bad. We are real on here, warts and all. It seems to hold us more accountable and reveals very quickly the why behind our collaboration - the goals or objectives. Perhaps that's what leads to relationships being built. We're giving of ourselves and our skills and we're being (trying to be) good humans here. We're all in search of places where we can live that. Inkscape, in my experience, is that and more. 2019-04-14 11-04-26 PDT Michèle Thibeau Great question! I began using GIMP a number of years back, I want to say just under a decade ago, to do photo editing and then digital art. The idea was to own the rights to my work, so to use software I could afford that would enable me to do this. My partner helped me find GIMP way back and then Inkscape followed. Can't recall whether it was my find or not in searching for an alternative. I have become a big fan of these two tools, among others for other uses, and often hashtag them when sharing my work and speak to them and share them with friends and colleagues. I also use Inkscape at work for a variety of things. 2019-04-14 10-50-42 PDT Michèle Thibeau Okay, perfect. Would you like to chat like this or with voice or... let me know. 2019-04-14 11-45-21 PDT Michèle Thibeau If you're seeking to see some of the heart and soul of this project, head to the team_devel channel and or the inkscape_user channel. You'll see people in action, helping - serving others, selflessly. We all serve this community in our own way. Mine is often helping programmers and folks who are not on social media and not content writers to better share the message about our work here. It's a huge honour to be part of this community. And lots of fun. 2019-04-14 10-56-34 PDT Michèle Thibeau Sure. I have been using Inkscape in my digital art practice for a couple of years and I was following them on Twitter - where I posted my work during a # YearOfCreating project. One day in March 2018, I think, I spotted a tweet one Saturday at noon that said Join the Vectors Team meeting - no need to be a programmer - or something of that sort. I clicked on the link and landed in a Jitsi chatroom in a meeting and introduced myself. Ryan was leading the meeting - he offered to get me onto GitLab if I sent him my email. That's how it all began. 2019-04-14 12-19-05 PDT Michèle Thibeau When I saw that I needed to write something else, at one point I shared that with a couple of other team members and we looked at what was needed and potential solutions. The content repo has enabled me to get things done, similar to a document filing system, but with a few limitations. That said. the versioning part, once I figured out how to do it, was an eye-opener and is really cool! I am seeking how to add this to my other work. The code tool that should be more incorporated into document management. 2019-07-06 19-21-06 PDT Michèle Thibeau Hey SrrReal, are you still with us? Hoping your article went well. Will we ever get to see how it turned out? Take good care. 2019-04-14 12-44-10 PDT Michèle Thibeau That would be terrific! I am sure we can use some of your insights to help improve the community and to perhaps share what's working and why - gain partners, sponsors, contributors... that's generous of you to want to share. Thank you! And thanks for taking an interest in Inkscape for your work!! 2019-04-14 12-37-49 PDT Michèle Thibeau I'm so glad to help you out, SrrReal! Oh, and here's the link to the Facebook group, in case you wish to see things here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/inkscape.org/ I recall one message where we wrote a post about seeking donations for a hackfest and shared some updates for the project. Someone read that and shared that they had donated. There were thanks and encouragement. Sometimes here we can see the impact of our collective actions. This drives me to act some more!! We're changing the world, our world, one action, one collaborative community at a time. 2019-04-14 11-10-34 PDT Michèle Thibeau Features, enabling me to create, also being cost effective. Being able to create and share work and being able to think about accomplishing your dreams is powerful! I am still learning the tool; however, we create for so many reasons - mostly because we have an innate need to do so. My dreams are in motion and being able to figure out the vector side of the equation has been a big step in my learning curve in surface pattern design. There are many emotions attached to this - being a fan - joy being one of them. 2019-04-14 11-38-29 PDT Michèle Thibeau Don't think that I am not bridging several worlds beyond Inkscape. I work with an organization where we use Microsoft platforms. I see myself as working with tools and able to work with many - lots of budget or no budget - to get things done. I am lucky enough to have insight from many different sides of the coin. 2019-04-14 12-32-33 PDT Michèle Thibeau Your work will help bring us visibility in a good way, too! 2019-04-14 11-06-37 PDT Michèle Thibeau I might have neglected to mention a lack of budget to use Photoshop for personal projects and entrepreneurial ones. 2019-04-14 12-17-02 PDT Michèle Thibeau You can see a bit of an evolution when you look back in past issues. Those having to do with writing seem to have been left unfinished... sometimes because, as I did in the beginning, people left themselves open to discussion on whether or not points of view were accurate. (One particular issue comes to mind here). Once we figure out that we can effect change - we can propose something or do something and send it out here, that's key. I spent a couple of articles making edits within an issue... we got it done. And then I said, not working for me. I also had an opportunity to have a couple of chats with the gals to share and learn how things worked among folks. This was helpful. Most helpful was me stepping up to collaborate and I started asking about timelines and letting folks know what we needed. Sometimes it happened fast. Other times slow - as people were able. If I could, at times I intervened - courageously - and tweeted my own stuff. Once I got out of my own way, I could better see how I could play a role. Others support you in this and this leads to action. I was encouraged to start my first issues later. First others started them and added my name - as they had asked if I was interested in writing an article. Then they encouraged me - or I had some ideas - and opened my own. Exciting steps each time! 2019-04-14 10-49-43 PDT Michèle Thibeau Hi SrrReal, sure! I'd be happy to chat with you about Inkscape. Let me know when you'd like to do this. I have some time now - it's afternoon here, but I am not sure what time it is where you are... 2019-04-14 11-43-17 PDT Michèle Thibeau I am still new here. This would be good to keep in mind! 2019-04-14 11-37-02 PDT Michèle Thibeau I think people sometimes are who they are here. Chat is tough to negotiate. Someone here told me that most folks have thick skins. I just finished watching SOLO, the movie, and it might not be a bad comparison (though one the community might not all agree with - as it's a big movie) Han Solo is a rebel, but he's really a good guy. Inkscapers are rebels and good people. We like to make choices about how or with whom we collaborate in the world. Hope that makes sense. 2019-04-14 12-00-51 PDT Michèle Thibeau Good question. Let me think of one example... 2019-04-14 11-14-08 PDT Michèle Thibeau First I watched and tried to read what I could in terms of what others were working on. Before that I kept (and still do sometimes) getting lost in the virtual corridors on here. 2019-04-14 12-23-40 PDT Michèle Thibeau Once we get started... 8-) 2019-04-14 10-59-37 PDT Michèle Thibeau I think it's been around for a couple of years... perhaps, yes! 2019-04-14 11-19-16 PDT Michèle Thibeau When I began we were still on the Jitsi platform with an email chat. Then I watched a debate - rather opinionated and frank - about inclusion using video and chat at the same time, which left two discussions going on and perhaps fewer action goals being set and actioned (my impression) in a cohesive manner. There was more discussion, perhaps less action. Then the meetings began to be held on the chat here (I might have missed some in the middle). One Vectors meeting there were very few of us on the channel - Ryan, Chris, Bryce and myself, I think. Perhaps others in the background lurking. That's when the action of announcing a new program, that got its start with Inkscape - and is part of the inner workings, needed to be tackled. I stepped in and said that I could write a news article. It was a steep learning curve to understand the subject; however, I did it! With lots of help from Bryce and Maren and Prkos - and Ryan. Then I was helped into the role of working on content. Once I piped up, I was offered other writing tasks and invited to participate more. https://inkscape.org/news/2018/11/11/graphics-math-library-2geoms-first-rel… 2019-04-14 12-22-00 PDT Michèle Thibeau The issues - the history is there, even in the closed ones. You can see the flow. I am sure that I am not accurately depicting how things have evolved. 2019-04-14 12-47-30 PDT Michèle Thibeau I'm going to edit the document as there were a couple of things to tweak. Then perhaps we'll let folks know it's been updated to see if there's any other feedback. I'll have to review what else was suggested by Mihaela about the lime instance. I've recently seen and answered several surveys at work using lime, so I think it's something to stick with and explore. Funny how that works. 2019-04-14 12-34-08 PDT Michèle Thibeau [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/SrrReal?msg=wGZi8j6mtmvwTyjzt) And some of those that have been abandoned, perhaps only for now, but for a number of months. This is also helpful insight into priorities or changing priorities or processes. () 2019-04-14 12-03-02 PDT Michèle Thibeau Working on getting my first writing up on the web site. This meant that I had to work on chat with Maren to figure out lots of stuff I didn't know (about stuff I didn't know). She was so patient and we both have a sense of humour, so we figured it out. Since then, she's worked, along with Mihaela, to help me learn how to do more stuff. Then they still help make sure things are good to go. That would be one example. ALSO! Bryce read my initial draft and I asked him questions and used his answers as quotes. This was essential as the subject matter was beyond my comprehension. It was a stretch goal... I called upon my skills as a journalist and my curiosity and my courage to get it done - thanks to the generosity and patience of the other team members. 2019-05-25 13-45-32 PDT Michèle Thibeau Hi SrrReal! Just wanted to see how you're doing and how things are going on your end. 2019-04-14 11-12-49 PDT Michèle Thibeau 8-) 2019-04-14 10-58-47 PDT Michèle Thibeau I can add that among the first people, some voices, I met and interacted with were Ryan, Brynn, prkos, Tim and Maren and Doctormo and Bryce... it took me a while to find my place as there was less structure and I was new to the open-source environment - not new to virtual teams, but used to much more structure. 2019-04-14 12-42-04 PDT Michèle Thibeau You're very welcome. It was my pleasure. I am eager to see your work - hopefully we'll be able to read your writing and learn lots! If you need any more help, just let me know. 2019-04-14 11-28-23 PDT Michèle Thibeau It's a give and take. It's a team and sometimes you have to understand what's going on above and beyond a simple aversion to using a spreadsheet. Now I'd just put together the spreadsheet, which I'll do when we get to more advanced campaigns. I've grown in understanding how to interact and contribute here. Lots more learning, I am sure. However, I understand lots more and know that my contributions advance things - because they are collaborations - parts of a bigger whole. 2019-04-14 12-39-42 PDT Michèle Thibeau and Tim!! 2019-04-14 12-21-35 PDT Michèle Thibeau Yes, which is terrific! I am so glad. 2019-04-14 11-22-03 PDT Michèle Thibeau This led to other missions, such as me trying to figure out how to better organize writing content and the process. Attempting to wrangle how to work in an open source environment is a good project. Attempting to introduce an open source doc - a spreadsheet - launched tons of discussion. I decided to see this as "a whole lotta love here" and said so. I embarked upon a learning curve to work on collaborating to create the content repo - and a system for Vectors and content - and am still working on collaborating and learning with each new day here. I love it! Being in the weeds and holding a global perspective, eager to work where I can. I began as a developer - and now have maintainer access for the content repo. Lately I've begun to help with posting tweets, and so I've been given access to that platform to help. An awesome responsibility. One - all of them - I take seriously. 2019-04-14 10-52-06 PDT Michèle Thibeau Sorry! Former journalist... sure! We can chat this way. 2019-04-14 12-32-13 PDT Michèle Thibeau Great question! I'd say that those of us here or who have interacted with team members would see these values. People who know team members within the community might as well. Not so sure that we've tried or have been able to communicate it broadly. I welcome your insight and your research into this team, project, to better understand the global view. Your perspective is important in the evolution of the team, also as a snapshot of how and how we got here. Users who have sought help and found it here or on social media (particularly FB) would have received support based on those values. Some have contributed either to the project financially or otherwise once learning more about it - that we're volunteers - or to thank the community for its support. Other than that, I am not sure we're visible. Maybe that's okay, too. Different people play different roles and this team is growing - which is good - and so the way we collaborate will have to grow and evolve too in order to continue to get things done. This might seem like a disconnected segue. I see it as people seeing the values here and choosing to stay or not because of them. I believe that others are seeking similar safe places to grow and contribute and feel like respectful beings on this planet. Hope that answers your question! 2019-04-14 11-31-13 PDT Michèle Thibeau It's important to give back. This is my way of serving Inkscape for all it has and continues to give to me. 2019-05-25 13-46-34 PDT Michèle Thibeau I hope you're well. Sometimes things take a bit longer than we'd like to get off the ground. Been busy on my end here, and so less active to get in there. Looking forward to catching up and to seeing if we can get the survey on the agenda for the next meeting. Have a great weekend! 2019-04-14 12-38-35 PDT Michèle Thibeau Jabiertxof 2019-04-14 11-42-52 PDT Michèle Thibeau I feel like I am on a weird roll... 8-) 2019-04-14 11-30-40 PDT Michèle Thibeau The idea is that we need some structures in place in order to advance coherently. In order to share the project and woo others to come and join. No one else will write articles within an issue. I am so done with that. Instead of rebelling, I politely explained that it was not pleasant... and so there was a genuine interest in developing something that worked. This is what I love about this team - this project. We're a bunch of problem solvers who speak so many languages, hold so many points of view on so many topics (I am sure), who come together to keep the lights on here and serve users and each other with such passion, patience and humour. 2019-04-14 12-20-01 PDT Michèle Thibeau Things change because someone has a challenge, sees a challenge or sees one coming down the pipe. There are all sorts of discussions, chats or other. Depending on who is involved, things move forward with different tools, speeds and stuff. 2019-04-14 12-22-32 PDT Michèle Thibeau The repo was meant for stuff other than code - docs, infographics, images, and such to do with promotion. 2019-04-14 11-12-47 PDT Michèle Thibeau Okay, math is not my strong point! But I can imagine?? 2019-04-14 11-26-34 PDT Michèle Thibeau Yes, I wanted to use a spreadsheet to collect information for a social media campaign... since folks here are less used to that - and so didn't have an understanding of why I would suggest that - they were immediately not in agreement. Then we looked at ways of adding a doc sharing piece on here... which turned into using the power of Gitlab, which I agreed to do vs. disturbing the Force. 8-) 2019-04-14 12-38-10 PDT Michèle Thibeau Prkos, Maren, doctormo, brynn, Chris, Ryan, Bryce... 2019-04-14 12-47-48 PDT Michèle Thibeau Okay, catch you a little later or during the week! 2019-04-14 12-46-06 PDT Michèle Thibeau I'll aim to look at your survey a little later this evening, my time. Meanwhile, I am going to have to head off for a bit to get other stuff done. I look forward to collaborating with you on many more issues / projects. Enjoy the rest of your day/evening! 2019-04-14 11-59-02 PDT Michèle Thibeau There's a good dose of patience, too. We're all volunteers, and so we have to learn how best to work with each other and be grateful for what the other can make or do in the time they have. And at the same time seek to demonstrate how best we can improve on our collaborations without offending each other, but keeping it real. 2019-04-14 11-57-42 PDT Michèle Thibeau Is it because we chat? Is it because we don't have in-dept personal relationships? I don't know. I know more about a few people on here. When people are nice to each other and help each other, there's a bond that's created. Friendship or kinship or respect to enable us all to achieve the goals of the project. I might be naive. Likely. I'll continue to use that to see the world I see and carry on helping here. It's not all rosey. It's just real(ity). 2019-04-14 11-47-38 PDT Michèle Thibeau That's honestly the heart and the hub of this community - the power of open source that stretches across the planet! 2019-04-14 11-22-28 PDT Michèle Thibeau Yes - this was my first article - collaboration - with Vectors and Inkscape, beyond retweeting stuff. 2019-04-14 12-08-03 PDT Michèle Thibeau Another would be when some of the team members were in Pasadena for the SCaLE conference and before that the hackfest. I had been following along from here, as I could not get there. We're working on getting more remote opportunities to collaborate, but we're not there yet. I noticed that we had not been able to get any social media together for this conference. I had started, there was a plan. When I spotted Bryce there and reached out, he went and collected some pics and I wrote some tweets and he said yep, and so I posted them through my account. They gained some traction and Ryan shared them via Inkscape's account. I did the same thing with the Bug Migration Game... trying to see opportunities to help and share. I feel like Chris is taking a bigger role in being active on FB (he's not on Twitter) with this game. He's even seen how the content repo has enabled the Vectors to get stuff done - articles published, social out the door. He's started to open issues, too, especially when it was impossible to get things done without it. Someone suggested that the issue path was working for us. It's a learning process. It's exciting to see and be part of change that's leading to success. I am sure there are other ones, too, but these ones come to mind now. 2019-04-14 11-00-18 PDT Michèle Thibeau I can probably find that info for you. 2019-04-14 11-34-18 PDT Michèle Thibeau Absolutely! I still think this is the real story that needs to be told about Inkscape... thinking of ways to do so.

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2019-11-17 10-04-22 PST Tim Jones @bryce Hi Bryce, Following a question I had about Vectors being able to vote for the final 5 submissions in the Dev Vote. Everyone has agreed that active contributors should be allowed to vote, but must be in the Dev mailing list. I have Joined the mailing list and logged in but it says I need to wait for confirmation. Can you process that for me? Many thanks :thumbsup: 2020-11-18 00-50-28 PST Bryce Harrington hi tim, just wanted to say thanks for your involvement. And, did you get your mailling list issues sorted? If not, plz follow up with Mc, he manages the mailman instance now.

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2020-11-15 08-37-33 PST Rachana Hey Jabier, I tried what you suggested and my change does not seem to affect the number of times dobeforeeffect is being called 2020-11-14 09-57-29 PST Rachana yes 2020-11-14 09-57-16 PST Rachana okay sure, I will go try that now. Thank you :slightly_smiling_face: 2020-11-15 08-41-39 PST Rachana awesome, thanks 2020-11-14 09-52-21 PST Rachana Hi Jabier! I'm working on this MR: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/2503#note_447551660. You added a comment about my changes adding more loops to the LPE stack 2020-11-15 08-40-24 PST Rachana yes, but I thought I need to get approval from someone before I can 2020-11-15 08-37-47 PST Rachana Do you know if its okay to merge yet? 2020-11-15 14-26-22 PST Rachana no worries! just take a look at it whenever you have some free time 2020-11-14 09-53-09 PST Rachana I'm new to this part of the code and I was wondering if you could elaborate on what that means 2020-11-15 08-41-42 PST Rachana :slightly_smiling_face: 2020-11-14 09-57-05 PST Jabier Arraiza if the number of workings are equal Bingo!!!! 2020-11-14 09-53-12 PST Jabier Arraiza is cool adition 2020-11-15 12-41-31 PST Jabier Arraiza Sorry forget it tomorrow update 2020-11-14 09-57-34 PST Jabier Arraiza :) 2020-11-14 09-56-12 PST Jabier Arraiza (plese add some string before press to keep position) 2020-11-14 09-54-10 PST Jabier Arraiza just add in a LPE with scalar widget in the function dobeforeeffect a cout 2020-11-14 09-56-41 PST Jabier Arraiza after it comment your improvement and do it again 2020-11-14 09-53-04 PST Jabier Arraiza yes 2020-11-14 09-54-59 PST Jabier Arraiza add a LPE of this type 2020-11-14 09-55-32 PST Jabier Arraiza and increase the value 1 time (pressing +or-) 2020-11-14 09-57-16 PST Jabier Arraiza you undertand me? 2020-11-14 09-55-50 PST Jabier Arraiza count the number of working show in console 2020-11-14 09-54-38 PST Jabier Arraiza `std::cout << "working" << std::endl;` 2020-11-15 08-41-04 PST Jabier Arraiza I do in some minutes 2020-11-15 08-39-53 PST Jabier Arraiza Yes, you have rights?

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2020-12-23 08-37-06 PST Tim Jones Thank you @Tav and Merry Christmas ☺️ 2020-12-23 08-24-51 PST Tavmjong Bah Hi: https://www.patreon.com/tavmjong

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2020-11-16 06-56-56 PST Tim Jones Hi Chris, :wave: I was wondering if you could make some edits to the Inkscope animation for me? It would be awesome to have a Green background (The area outside the circle image). This way I can "Green-Screen" it onto any colour background, also remove the title that appears and fades out. Do you have a Business website? Do you have an online portfolio of your designs, that I can grab some images, to use in a slide show etc..? :slight_smile: 2020-11-11 12-13-30 PST Tim Jones Hi Chris, love the animation... :thumbsup: Ive not forgotten the interview, had a few family things crop up... as they do with Kids! Even adult Kids... :rolling_eyes: I have started to write my outline script for your interview. I just need some basic info, so I can start to build questions around you! 1. Your Name - what do you like to be called.? 2. Job title / description? 3. where you live in the World? (no need for exact location) 4. When did you join Inkscape Team? 5. When did you become a Govenor of the Inkscape Board? 6. What types of contribution have you made to Inkscape? i.e video, artwork etc... 7. what are you working on at the moment? No need to go into super detail here, leave that for the interview, this is just to give me some insight. ;-) I'm really looking forward to doing the interview. :-) 2021-02-22 07-16-14 PST Tim Jones You can post Youtube tutorials on the FB group, but you can't advertise a Patreon account. But if you advertise that within your youtube content, it is fine. We just don't support direct links to self promotion, or Stores etc... It leads to all sorts of mess. :-) 2021-02-22 07-17-04 PST Tim Jones Sounds great, good luck with it ;-) 2021-02-22 07-19-08 PST Tim Jones Yeah exactly, we want people to share their "How-to" video's. 2021-02-22 07-21-32 PST Tim Jones Yes, I have some people lined up, I also want to get Bryce on as well but I'm waiting until after you publish your article. I thought it would be a nice follow up? 2021-02-22 07-24-24 PST Tim Jones Yeah he does take a while to get back... Yeah I will contact him and try to get something arranged. Nice! :thumbsup: 2021-02-22 07-26-11 PST Tim Jones No problem, let's see if i can make it happen... No worries, to be honest life over xmas was crazy for me, family health problems are only just getting resolved so things should get back to normal here soon 2021-02-22 07-27-20 PST Tim Jones Great to be busy with work though, especially in these times... Life comes first! ;-) 2021-02-22 07-28-00 PST Tim Jones hahaha... they are good fun! 2021-02-22 07-28-38 PST Tim Jones We will get more out soon! :-) 2020-11-16 14-25-14 PST Tim Jones Hi Chris, thanks for the green screen version, so awesome! Yeah no rush for the images, when you have time. 👍 2021-02-22 07-29-05 PST Tim Jones thanks ! 2021-02-22 07-19-56 PST Tim Jones no problem :-) 2021-02-22 07-19-34 PST Tim Jones :thumbsup: 2020-11-16 12-53-27 PST C.Rogers inkscope_podcast_intro_greenscreen.mp4 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/aT6orhDAbFwtBpdsL/inkscope_podcast_in…) 2020-11-12 03-31-47 PST C.Rogers 1. Your Name - what do you like to be called.? - Chris is fine, but should mention my name is C.Rogers in the project. 2. Job title / description? Designer - Products, Graphics, Video & Animation 3. where you live in the World? London, United Kingdom (I'm American, but have earned British Citizenship) 4. When did you join Inkscape Team? About 6 years ago (2015) 5. When did you become a Govenor of the Inkscape Board? About 3 years ago (2017) 2020-11-12 03-59-38 PST C.Rogers Oh, I'm also the official moderator for the project as of this year. 2020-11-12 03-56-48 PST C.Rogers Looking forward to the interview too! 2021-02-22 07-08-24 PST C.Rogers Wanted to pick your brain about something. 2021-02-22 07-09-02 PST C.Rogers I want to start a Youtube channel which teaches Inkscape from beginner through advanced techniques. 2021-02-22 07-10-08 PST C.Rogers I was wondering if it's okay with you if I post announcements for new videos on the Facebook page. I realise that it's a bit like advertising though, so I wanted to okay it with you first. 2021-02-22 07-16-37 PST C.Rogers Yea, understood. 2021-02-22 07-17-02 PST C.Rogers I hope you don't mind me occassionally promoting Doc's Patreon in the comments. 2021-02-22 07-17-47 PST C.Rogers I feel that's okay because it's not self-promotion, and it's actually helping Inkscape the application get better. 2021-02-22 07-18-23 PST C.Rogers Not to mention the fact that Doc really needs the exposure. 2021-02-22 07-19-41 PST C.Rogers Thanks again. :) 2021-02-22 07-20-01 PST C.Rogers Got any more Inkscope interviews lined up? 2021-02-22 07-20-20 PST C.Rogers (because you don't have enough to do, clearly) ;) 2021-02-22 07-22-24 PST C.Rogers Yea, I need to contact Bryce again about it. He wasn't responding, which is why I didn't push the article out. 2021-02-22 07-22-59 PST C.Rogers Actually, the podcast would be great material for the article. 2021-02-22 07-23-08 PST C.Rogers Could you do yours first? 2021-02-22 07-23-19 PST C.Rogers Then We don't have to bug him more than once. 2021-02-22 07-23-47 PST C.Rogers I can then link the interview into the article, and give it double the exposure. 2021-02-22 07-24-30 PST C.Rogers Bound to be some quotables in the Interview. 2021-02-22 07-24-50 PST C.Rogers Sorry to have unknowingly held up the interview. :) 2021-02-22 07-26-37 PST C.Rogers Oh good. Sorry to hear it's been rough. For me too work-wise. 2021-02-22 07-27-42 PST C.Rogers But honestly, I miss hearing your super wholesome Inkscape interview banter. lol 2021-02-22 07-28-05 PST C.Rogers So it's not for entirely unslefish reasons, lol 2021-02-22 07-28-53 PST C.Rogers Sweet! Very much looking forward. 2020-11-16 14-30-08 PST C.Rogers Sure. Will get them for you tomorrow. 2020-11-12 03-55-24 PST C.Rogers 6. What types of contribution have you made to Inkscape? i.e video, artwork etc... * Inkscape LGM video for 2016: https://youtu.be/QQmriP0NhtU * Hackfest stickers, coffee, etc. at Leeds, Paris & Kiel Hackfests. (will get you some good pictures) * The Great Inkscape Bug Migration game concept and art. * Inkscape 2018 LGM "Year in Review" video for 2019 LGM : https://youtu.be/Uxhb6AtXHCw * Inkscape swag for spreadshirt store - https://shop.spreadshirt.com/inkscape-shop * How to report Inkscape bugs in Gitlab video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y7_T_tbGAM * Inkscape 1.0 video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6UHXkND4Sc 2020-11-16 12-52-54 PST C.Rogers Hi. Sure, here's a greenscreen version: 2021-02-22 07-32-28 PST C.Rogers Surething. :) 2021-02-22 07-24-36 PST C.Rogers Thanks! 2021-02-22 07-19-21 PST C.Rogers Cool. 2021-02-22 07-17-08 PST C.Rogers Thanks! 2021-02-22 07-08-13 PST C.Rogers Hey Tim. :) 2020-11-12 04-00-38 PST C.Rogers That's been a good deal of work. :) 2020-11-16 12-53-39 PST C.Rogers My business website is crogersmedia.com, but I'll get you some more images. 2020-11-16 12-53-50 PST C.Rogers Can I collect those for you tomorrow?

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29 Apr '21

2019-11-12 13-18-59 PST Tim Jones Yes that's the one. Not sure why you dont see the tick? 2019-11-12 12-47-27 PST Tim Jones When it is fixed, I will mark it as "Checked". When you mouse over the image, a green Tick ✅ will appear. 👍 2019-12-01 07-47-50 PST Tim Jones Hi Jabier, Yes, please add that permission for me. Many thanks, 😊 2019-11-12 13-23-49 PST Tim Jones That's a good idea 👍 2019-12-02 03-29-52 PST Tim Jones Thank you Jabier, I really appreciate this. 😊👍 2019-11-30 09-33-54 PST Tim Jones Hi Jabier, It would be really useful to have the ability to Tag ALL Vectors in the "Team-Vectors" chat room. So when we create posts for Social Media, we can call everyone easily. Is that possible? Or something you are willing to do? It is ok, if you would rather not allow that! :-) 2019-11-12 13-21-59 PST Tim Jones The tick might be something Martin set up for me? 2019-11-12 12-17-25 PST Tim Jones Hi Just opening a PM for us to use ;-) 2019-11-12 13-24-51 PST Tim Jones Yes I can ask him 2019-12-02 06-51-27 PST Tim Jones That is great to know! Thank you. 👍 2019-11-12 17-27-12 PST Jabier Arraiza this entry is super slow to load and more bigger https://inkscape.org/~Lindelwa/%E2%98%85scape-splash maybe his meassurament is in mm instead in px 2019-11-12 13-20-08 PST Jabier Arraiza not know why 2019-11-12 13-22-42 PST Jabier Arraiza maybe 2019-12-02 03-37-47 PST Jabier Arraiza you are welcome! 2019-11-12 13-23-17 PST Jabier Arraiza anyway a red border on entries not aproved cool be good 2019-11-12 12-36-17 PST Jabier Arraiza there is a fixed tag or a string in comments to know a entry is accepted? 2019-12-01 06-47-39 PST Jabier Arraiza ping me when want to add 2019-11-12 13-24-26 PST Jabier Arraiza seems a easy thing if has code to tick 2019-11-12 12-34-28 PST Jabier Arraiza if dont pout nothing is accepted or not? https://inkscape.org/~jaigansa/%E2%98%85inkscape-10-splash-screen-jaigansa 2019-11-12 13-24-09 PST Jabier Arraiza you want to talke it with martin? 2019-11-12 13-24-57 PST Jabier Arraiza Thanks! 2019-12-02 03-37-59 PST Jabier Arraiza you can use in all channels 2019-11-12 13-14-42 PST Jabier Arraiza is this image show in the item extended also? https://media.inkscape.org/static/images/endorse/contest.svg 2019-11-12 12-26-26 PST Jabier Arraiza :) 2019-11-12 13-13-03 PST Jabier Arraiza I dont see on firefox 2019-12-01 06-47-26 PST Jabier Arraiza Not per room but I can give permission to anybody 2019-11-12 17-26-30 PST Jabier Arraiza Tim, I thin we dont need the list I ask to martin in devel channel for a generated files. If the user update a file the url change and we get outdated. 2019-12-02 03-39-17 PST Jabier Arraiza also this call is for users in each channel 2019-11-12 13-22-50 PST Jabier Arraiza make sense, I dont need 2019-11-12 13-20-02 PST Jabier Arraiza ok is set programaticaly, i can easy check. 2019-12-01 18-51-07 PST Jabier Arraiza Done! 2019-11-12 13-23-25 PST Jabier Arraiza to all people 2019-11-12 13-15-18 PST Jabier Arraiza https://inkscape.org/~victorac/%E2%98%85abstract-ornament 2019-12-02 03-39-43 PST Jabier Arraiza so you need to put sometimes in more than one place 2019-12-02 03-38-42 PST Jabier Arraiza if you want to write but not mail we pot a space between @ and all

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 48 Messages, 1 Files, 1251253 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: Mc & Moini
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29 Apr '21

2020-12-04 11-16-57 PST Mc January of which year ? 2020-12-04 11-25-11 PST Mc I think I can come to vectors to discuss the contest planned timeframe before 2021 2020-04-25 14-36-23 PDT Mc sure :D 2020-12-04 11-27-46 PST Mc TBF if he continues to act against what I consider the good health of the project that'll become what I want 2020-12-04 11-24-46 PST Mc no, rocketchat planned install date ^^ 2020-09-10 12-17-52 PDT Mc :/ 2020-10-27 10-16-15 PDT Mc yeah, I sent him an email quite recently and I had an answer after some time : he changed jobs, changed city, and lose a family member all at once, and is trying to find his new routine 2020-04-25 14-42-23 PDT Mc yeah I should be more relaxed next week (I hope!) 2020-12-04 11-30-32 PST Mc maybe 2020-12-04 11-29-42 PST Mc :/ 2020-12-04 11-25-40 PST Mc I ranted to doctormo only but I'm quite mad at how people run things 2019-10-12 07-11-36 PDT Mc I have a dilemma : I'd like us to take part in google code-in ( https://codein.withgoogle.com/ [high-school level program organized as a contest where we setup a large number of "tasks" ~2h each of various difficulty that students tackle. Could be code, doc, outreach, etc.]) because basically I've heard that it induces a boost in participation and attracts young long-term contributors to participating projects; however it is a *significant* investment : basically around 100hours/week on mentors (shared, not 100h each) during 8 or 9 weeks. The comments from #gsoc when I asked for advice were those : 23:02 < Mc> I'm unsure we (Inkscape) have enough man/womanpower to participate efficiently in google code-in... Do you have a rule of thumb on the number of mentors and of diversity of tasks that would be "nice to have" to try to participate efficiently ? 23:17 < terri> Mc: A few of us were saying elsewhere that we'd want about 20 mentors and 100 tasks prepared in advance, but it depends on how much time your mentors have to dedicate. 23:17 < Mc> ok, 20 mentors is impossible, that clarifies it :p 23:18 < Mc> (100 tasks is clearly doable though) 23:18 < terri> I know people who do it with 3, but at least one of them has no other job for those 3 weeks. :) 23:19 < Mc> Dec2-Jan21 ? 23:20 < terri> *shrug* or whatever it was the year in question. no clue what they're doing this year. :) 23:20 < Mc> I mean, this year it looks like much more than three weeks 23:21 < terri> yeah, that's why I'd want 20 people if I were running it for my org. it's easy to burn out, and lots of folk travel/have family commitments/etc. in that time frame. 23:21 < Mc> (8 weeks ?) 23:21 < fundamental> It's impressive that there are enough open source projects which can deadicate that level of resources 23:21 < terri> maybe I'm just mis-remembering how many weeks it was, though. 23:25 < terri> Mc: That said, that's *my* rule of thumb for a pretty wide umbrella, where we'd need different people for differnet parts of the project. If you've got a smaller subset but they're able to handle more tasks and are more available in that time... well, as I said, it *can* be done with 3 if you're willing to commit to a very high level of activity! 23:26 < terri> It might be better to try to guesstimate how many hours people can put in rather than how many people. 23:27 < terri> 20 people x 5 hours/week versus 10 putting in 10 hours each, or some mix of both. 23:28 < Mc> Ah yeah I can probably commit 3 hours a day most days 23:34 < Mc> 100h/wk would be your rough time estimate (after the first week(s), I guess) ? 23:35 < terri> yeah, something like that. you want "someone's going to be able to evaluate any student's task within a couple of hours" coverage 23:36 < terri> Since it's a contest, students get super nervous if they have to wait too long for task evals, and they can't accept a new task until their existing one is okayed. 23:38 -!- mode/#gsoc [+o meflin] by ChanServ Day changed to 12 oct. 2019 08:56 < PulkoMandy> hi Mc, I think the 20 people and about 100 tasks estimate is correct. However, remember that a part of this can be non-technical (both the tasks and the people). In our case at Haiku we have maybe 3 or 4 core devs mentoring in GCI, and most of our mentors are users or former GCI contestants who are not otherwise involved with the project, they do the 1st level support to the student and know when a particular task needs a more technical 08:56 < PulkoMandy> person to review it. So basically you may need to be a bit creative with how you find mentors for this I think if we include vectors and usual community members we can get to the right number of involved people ( Me, Jabier, Tav, doctormo, ede123, nathan, RdH, NPJ2000, Thomas Holder, CRogers, Maren, Tim, Michele, Mihaela, Ryan, Tedg, Lazur, Brynn, maybe Scislac and bryce ) to not burnout anyone (but me :P) and get a decent number of tasks across the areas of the program (code; documentation/training; outreach;QA;Design) but the bad thing is the timing : 8 weeks in Dec+Jan is basically when we wanted to focus on pre+post-release stuff so it's very badly timed for us (and it's yearly so if we want to try, it would be in a year); what do you think ? 2020-09-10 12-17-58 PDT Mc Hope he'll be alright 2019-10-05 10-50-42 PDT Mc OCAL: https://marc.jeanmougin.fr/share/all2.tgz 2020-04-25 14-40-41 PDT Mc ^^ 2020-10-27 10-17-10 PDT Mc he plans to come back "pretty soon" 2020-09-10 04-03-18 PDT Moini Just in case someone asks about Bryce, I think he's got other things on his mind currently than Inkscape, he's worried the wildfires will come nearer and he'll need to evacuate. 2020-12-04 11-32-00 PST Moini causally. 2020-12-04 11-27-33 PST Moini I don't want him to step back, but to responsibly deal with limited time availability. 2020-12-04 11-24-29 PST Moini About screen contest start? 2020-09-10 04-03-52 PDT Moini The arrow tip is where he lives. 2020-10-27 10-16-41 PDT Moini Merci! 2020-04-25 14-42-47 PDT Moini (for me, too) 2020-12-04 11-25-33 PST Moini Yeah. Bryce is afraid that people want to take responsibility from him. 2020-12-04 11-31-53 PST Moini I know he does, I just don't know if they are related :) 2020-10-27 11-10-05 PDT Moini Sorry for the pling :) Hoping things will settle down for Patrick quickly, as much as that is possible. 2020-09-10 04-06-17 PDT Moini Currently he's outside all warning zones. 2020-10-26 06-56-57 PDT Moini (ha, I just checked his profile on inkscape.org - Martin's spyware tells me Patrick has visited the website yesterday) 2020-12-04 11-28-21 PST Moini I can understand that view. 2020-12-04 11-27-42 PST Moini Which can mean to delegate. 2020-10-26 06-54-59 PDT Moini Hi Marc, do you know anything about why Patrick isn't here anymore? I thought he'd just be on vacation, but this is so long already... 2019-10-12 17-01-31 PDT Moini Mmmh. I have serious doubts we'd be able to do that with that set of contributors only. Better ask someone else, too, they might be more optimistic :) You, Jabier and Patrick will be quite busy with the release fixes. NPJ2000 is nice, but I'm not sure he's able to be of much help as a mentor... , Chris is chronically unavailable, just like Mihaela and Ryan (basically, they only come to the meetings and only occasionally are able to do what they signed up for), Michèle has a new job (same employer), but might be more available soon, maybe. Tim is already doing quite a lot, and often is unavailable unexpectedly, because of various family (health) issues. I don't trust myself to have the patience and time it takes, release stuff is enough for me. Brynn wants to reduce the things she does (e.g. she's going to stop moderating forums/galleries, closing her forum, and generally wants to do less). Bryce is kind of ... gone. Ted, Josh, Nathan, Martin, Lazur and Thomas, maybe ecke, too, might be the best candidates who could be able to invest some time. Btw. where does the number 100 for the number of tasks come from? Instructions for organizations are a bit scarce, I couldn't find anything useful. 2020-09-10 04-03-34 PDT Moini screenshot_2020-09-10_13-01-07.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/pHHGbiRm6R7yNsiwS/screenshot_2020-09-…) 2020-10-26 06-58-42 PDT Moini So at least he's alive and able to visit websites. Seems we don't need to worry after all. 2020-09-10 04-04-32 PDT Moini Wanted to let you know, because I intend to go off-Inkscape-line for a few days (except for reporting bugs, I suppose). Kielux preparations :) 2020-12-04 11-29-22 PST Moini Still hope he'll understand that we don't hate him, just want things to be dealt with. Up to now, I seem to have failed doing that. 2020-04-25 14-42-36 PDT Moini It's something to look forward to ;-) 2020-12-04 11-30-25 PST Moini (that's a guess) 2020-04-25 14-41-52 PDT Moini I was thinking of after 1.0, when things relax for you a bit. 2020-04-25 14-40-25 PDT Moini Thanks! I'm getting so many positive replies (that's cool), in the end we may need an extra contributor to turn them into a series :) 2020-12-04 11-25-48 PST Moini I only want him to take on his responsibility... 2020-04-25 14-40-42 PDT Moini So, no hurry for you, the form is online until October. 2019-10-05 12-41-46 PDT Moini Merci beaucoup! Downloading from your link now. 2020-04-25 14-26-29 PDT Moini I know you don't have a lot of time, and you've already given an interview - but maybe if you find some time later, we could have our own interview with you? The form's website is even in French ;-) https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 2020-09-10 04-05-23 PDT Moini (url is https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/6329d5e4e13748b9b9f7f33f06a3c376/ ) 2020-12-04 11-24-56 PST Moini ah... :-/ 2020-12-04 11-29-48 PST Moini He's taking it personally, probably because he feels bad about not being able to do more. 2020-12-04 11-27-04 PST Moini He fears we want to get rid of him and sees this as a threat. I'm not good enough at making it clear to him that that's not what people want. Or at least, I hope that's not what people want.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 4 Messages, 0 Files, 444848 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: unclemez & windell.oskay
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29 Apr '21

2020-06-23 18-52-52 PDT Uncle Mez Sorry to DM you without asking ! 2020-06-23 19-00-54 PDT Uncle Mez i'll install discord and check the channel some time and share some stuffs there and learn from people in there ! 2020-06-23 18-52-43 PDT Uncle Mez is that discord channel you mentionned a place where I can learn and improve ? 2020-06-23 19-03-30 PDT Windell Oskay You don't need to install anything, just follow the link.

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