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29 Apr '21

2020-05-10 09-43-18 PDT Jorge Toledo Not sure where Harvey, the author of that mockup, got them from. 2020-05-10 09-34-22 PDT Jorge Toledo Great! 2020-05-10 09-29-34 PDT Jorge Toledo Maybe looking at the titles gives you a hint 2020-05-10 09-29-14 PDT Jorge Toledo https://www.deviantart.com/bassultra/art/Inkscape-Redesign-345519518 2020-05-10 09-29-13 PDT Jorge Toledo It was based on this mockup 2020-05-10 09-37-05 PDT Jorge Toledo Not sure what font it is... 2020-05-10 09-42-53 PDT Jorge Toledo They are quite similar to the current symbolic icons, right? 2020-05-10 09-29-59 PDT Jorge Toledo Seems to be a music album 2020-05-10 09-36-07 PDT anonym_i_ous in the mockup that is 2020-05-10 11-11-48 PDT anonym_i_ous [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/eldelacajita?msg=CJvLpm6bjA8PoFZBf) yup () 2020-05-10 09-33-16 PDT anonym_i_ous found it, thanks a lot (: 2020-05-10 09-33-24 PDT anonym_i_ous https://accelworld.fandom.com/wiki/Chase_the_World 2020-05-10 09-35-18 PDT anonym_i_ous the font used looks nice too 2020-05-10 09-27-34 PDT anonym_i_ous hi 2020-05-10 09-28-12 PDT anonym_i_ous where can i see the art/anime used in this pic? 2020-05-10 09-27-47 PDT anonym_i_ous [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=b3XDFqPXTw87mtDs4) () 2020-05-10 09-37-30 PDT anonym_i_ous oops, sorry, i wanted to say icons 2020-05-10 09-38-04 PDT anonym_i_ous :sweat_smile:

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29 Apr '21

2020-01-17 07-25-40 PST anonym_i_ous hey there 2020-01-17 07-26-26 PST anonym_i_ous I would like to talk to u about some things like this in general.... although nothing particular is coming to my mind rn 2020-01-17 07-25-42 PST anonym_i_ous https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=Zs7M4PXK4koRqruA8 ()

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29 Apr '21

2020-10-06 12-07-24 PDT James I noticed you are a global monitor and I am at a complete loss. This is far from intuitive to me. 2020-10-06 12-07-00 PDT James I created an svg file, not realizing that it would not automatically create vectors. To further my problem...I used clip art, a personal file and lines and dots I drew myself. I would like to convert it to vectors, but I am unable to figure out how to use trace bitmap in the path folder to do all the vectors or at one time. Is this possible? 2020-10-06 15-09-44 PDT Moini Hi, please go through public support channels to get user support. Thanks!

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29 Apr '21

2020-03-23 07-27-37 PDT Aadhish Sriram Hey 2020-03-23 07-39-45 PDT Aadhish Sriram Don't start the holy war here 2020-03-23 07-27-44 PDT Aadhish Sriram It's okay 2020-03-23 05-52-25 PDT Moazin (Just trying to socialize, if that's okay with you) :-) 2020-03-23 05-51-51 PDT Moazin Hey Aadish 2020-03-23 07-34-15 PDT Moazin I saw your proposal. In the editors section you say: "Vim, Emacs". That sounds like I am a Pakistani and Indian at the same time. :D 2020-03-23 07-40-12 PDT Moazin Lol.

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29 Apr '21

2020-02-28 08-13-14 PST Aadhish Sriram and about name does it have to pseudonym or real name? 2020-02-28 08-16-31 PST Aadhish Sriram Found it :) 2020-02-28 08-12-54 PST Aadhish Sriram Email: aadhishrm11(a)gmail.com 2020-02-28 08-26-45 PST Aadhish Sriram It's been changed already! Before I change it ;) 2020-02-28 08-13-44 PST Aadhish Sriram ok 2020-02-28 08-13-51 PST Aadhish Sriram Name: Phoenix181 2020-02-28 08-15-40 PST Aadhish Sriram and where should I login? 2020-02-28 08-15-33 PST Aadhish Sriram Okay 2020-02-28 08-13-34 PST Moini Any name is fine, as long as it starts with a capital letter, and isn't taken yet. 2020-02-28 11-56-03 PST Moini Ah, yes, seems like Marc was faster... Next time 🙂 2020-02-28 08-16-02 PST Moini There should be a login link in the top right corner of every wiki page. 2020-02-28 08-15-20 PST Moini Your password is: Eil7ceThey - please change it as soon as possible!

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29 Apr '21

2020-03-04 03-26-45 PST Aadhish Sriram https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=Mu5BcEsNbj9BPKtH6 () 2020-03-05 16-25-26 PST Aadhish Sriram https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=DZvuY8gELcuY7AwcN ()

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29 Apr '21

2020-06-23 18-52-52 PDT Uncle Mez Sorry to DM you without asking ! 2020-06-23 19-00-54 PDT Uncle Mez i'll install discord and check the channel some time and share some stuffs there and learn from people in there ! 2020-06-23 18-52-43 PDT Uncle Mez is that discord channel you mentionned a place where I can learn and improve ? 2020-06-23 19-03-30 PDT Windell Oskay You don't need to install anything, just follow the link.

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29 Apr '21

2020-12-04 11-16-57 PST Mc January of which year ? 2020-12-04 11-25-11 PST Mc I think I can come to vectors to discuss the contest planned timeframe before 2021 2020-04-25 14-36-23 PDT Mc sure :D 2020-12-04 11-27-46 PST Mc TBF if he continues to act against what I consider the good health of the project that'll become what I want 2020-12-04 11-24-46 PST Mc no, rocketchat planned install date ^^ 2020-09-10 12-17-52 PDT Mc :/ 2020-10-27 10-16-15 PDT Mc yeah, I sent him an email quite recently and I had an answer after some time : he changed jobs, changed city, and lose a family member all at once, and is trying to find his new routine 2020-04-25 14-42-23 PDT Mc yeah I should be more relaxed next week (I hope!) 2020-12-04 11-30-32 PST Mc maybe 2020-12-04 11-29-42 PST Mc :/ 2020-12-04 11-25-40 PST Mc I ranted to doctormo only but I'm quite mad at how people run things 2019-10-12 07-11-36 PDT Mc I have a dilemma : I'd like us to take part in google code-in ( https://codein.withgoogle.com/ [high-school level program organized as a contest where we setup a large number of "tasks" ~2h each of various difficulty that students tackle. Could be code, doc, outreach, etc.]) because basically I've heard that it induces a boost in participation and attracts young long-term contributors to participating projects; however it is a *significant* investment : basically around 100hours/week on mentors (shared, not 100h each) during 8 or 9 weeks. The comments from #gsoc when I asked for advice were those : 23:02 < Mc> I'm unsure we (Inkscape) have enough man/womanpower to participate efficiently in google code-in... Do you have a rule of thumb on the number of mentors and of diversity of tasks that would be "nice to have" to try to participate efficiently ? 23:17 < terri> Mc: A few of us were saying elsewhere that we'd want about 20 mentors and 100 tasks prepared in advance, but it depends on how much time your mentors have to dedicate. 23:17 < Mc> ok, 20 mentors is impossible, that clarifies it :p 23:18 < Mc> (100 tasks is clearly doable though) 23:18 < terri> I know people who do it with 3, but at least one of them has no other job for those 3 weeks. :) 23:19 < Mc> Dec2-Jan21 ? 23:20 < terri> *shrug* or whatever it was the year in question. no clue what they're doing this year. :) 23:20 < Mc> I mean, this year it looks like much more than three weeks 23:21 < terri> yeah, that's why I'd want 20 people if I were running it for my org. it's easy to burn out, and lots of folk travel/have family commitments/etc. in that time frame. 23:21 < Mc> (8 weeks ?) 23:21 < fundamental> It's impressive that there are enough open source projects which can deadicate that level of resources 23:21 < terri> maybe I'm just mis-remembering how many weeks it was, though. 23:25 < terri> Mc: That said, that's *my* rule of thumb for a pretty wide umbrella, where we'd need different people for differnet parts of the project. If you've got a smaller subset but they're able to handle more tasks and are more available in that time... well, as I said, it *can* be done with 3 if you're willing to commit to a very high level of activity! 23:26 < terri> It might be better to try to guesstimate how many hours people can put in rather than how many people. 23:27 < terri> 20 people x 5 hours/week versus 10 putting in 10 hours each, or some mix of both. 23:28 < Mc> Ah yeah I can probably commit 3 hours a day most days 23:34 < Mc> 100h/wk would be your rough time estimate (after the first week(s), I guess) ? 23:35 < terri> yeah, something like that. you want "someone's going to be able to evaluate any student's task within a couple of hours" coverage 23:36 < terri> Since it's a contest, students get super nervous if they have to wait too long for task evals, and they can't accept a new task until their existing one is okayed. 23:38 -!- mode/#gsoc [+o meflin] by ChanServ Day changed to 12 oct. 2019 08:56 < PulkoMandy> hi Mc, I think the 20 people and about 100 tasks estimate is correct. However, remember that a part of this can be non-technical (both the tasks and the people). In our case at Haiku we have maybe 3 or 4 core devs mentoring in GCI, and most of our mentors are users or former GCI contestants who are not otherwise involved with the project, they do the 1st level support to the student and know when a particular task needs a more technical 08:56 < PulkoMandy> person to review it. So basically you may need to be a bit creative with how you find mentors for this I think if we include vectors and usual community members we can get to the right number of involved people ( Me, Jabier, Tav, doctormo, ede123, nathan, RdH, NPJ2000, Thomas Holder, CRogers, Maren, Tim, Michele, Mihaela, Ryan, Tedg, Lazur, Brynn, maybe Scislac and bryce ) to not burnout anyone (but me :P) and get a decent number of tasks across the areas of the program (code; documentation/training; outreach;QA;Design) but the bad thing is the timing : 8 weeks in Dec+Jan is basically when we wanted to focus on pre+post-release stuff so it's very badly timed for us (and it's yearly so if we want to try, it would be in a year); what do you think ? 2020-09-10 12-17-58 PDT Mc Hope he'll be alright 2019-10-05 10-50-42 PDT Mc OCAL: https://marc.jeanmougin.fr/share/all2.tgz 2020-04-25 14-40-41 PDT Mc ^^ 2020-10-27 10-17-10 PDT Mc he plans to come back "pretty soon" 2020-09-10 04-03-18 PDT Moini Just in case someone asks about Bryce, I think he's got other things on his mind currently than Inkscape, he's worried the wildfires will come nearer and he'll need to evacuate. 2020-12-04 11-32-00 PST Moini causally. 2020-12-04 11-27-33 PST Moini I don't want him to step back, but to responsibly deal with limited time availability. 2020-12-04 11-24-29 PST Moini About screen contest start? 2020-09-10 04-03-52 PDT Moini The arrow tip is where he lives. 2020-10-27 10-16-41 PDT Moini Merci! 2020-04-25 14-42-47 PDT Moini (for me, too) 2020-12-04 11-25-33 PST Moini Yeah. Bryce is afraid that people want to take responsibility from him. 2020-12-04 11-31-53 PST Moini I know he does, I just don't know if they are related :) 2020-10-27 11-10-05 PDT Moini Sorry for the pling :) Hoping things will settle down for Patrick quickly, as much as that is possible. 2020-09-10 04-06-17 PDT Moini Currently he's outside all warning zones. 2020-10-26 06-56-57 PDT Moini (ha, I just checked his profile on inkscape.org - Martin's spyware tells me Patrick has visited the website yesterday) 2020-12-04 11-28-21 PST Moini I can understand that view. 2020-12-04 11-27-42 PST Moini Which can mean to delegate. 2020-10-26 06-54-59 PDT Moini Hi Marc, do you know anything about why Patrick isn't here anymore? I thought he'd just be on vacation, but this is so long already... 2019-10-12 17-01-31 PDT Moini Mmmh. I have serious doubts we'd be able to do that with that set of contributors only. Better ask someone else, too, they might be more optimistic :) You, Jabier and Patrick will be quite busy with the release fixes. NPJ2000 is nice, but I'm not sure he's able to be of much help as a mentor... , Chris is chronically unavailable, just like Mihaela and Ryan (basically, they only come to the meetings and only occasionally are able to do what they signed up for), Michèle has a new job (same employer), but might be more available soon, maybe. Tim is already doing quite a lot, and often is unavailable unexpectedly, because of various family (health) issues. I don't trust myself to have the patience and time it takes, release stuff is enough for me. Brynn wants to reduce the things she does (e.g. she's going to stop moderating forums/galleries, closing her forum, and generally wants to do less). Bryce is kind of ... gone. Ted, Josh, Nathan, Martin, Lazur and Thomas, maybe ecke, too, might be the best candidates who could be able to invest some time. Btw. where does the number 100 for the number of tasks come from? Instructions for organizations are a bit scarce, I couldn't find anything useful. 2020-09-10 04-03-34 PDT Moini screenshot_2020-09-10_13-01-07.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/pHHGbiRm6R7yNsiwS/screenshot_2020-09-…) 2020-10-26 06-58-42 PDT Moini So at least he's alive and able to visit websites. Seems we don't need to worry after all. 2020-09-10 04-04-32 PDT Moini Wanted to let you know, because I intend to go off-Inkscape-line for a few days (except for reporting bugs, I suppose). Kielux preparations :) 2020-12-04 11-29-22 PST Moini Still hope he'll understand that we don't hate him, just want things to be dealt with. Up to now, I seem to have failed doing that. 2020-04-25 14-42-36 PDT Moini It's something to look forward to ;-) 2020-12-04 11-30-25 PST Moini (that's a guess) 2020-04-25 14-41-52 PDT Moini I was thinking of after 1.0, when things relax for you a bit. 2020-04-25 14-40-25 PDT Moini Thanks! I'm getting so many positive replies (that's cool), in the end we may need an extra contributor to turn them into a series :) 2020-12-04 11-25-48 PST Moini I only want him to take on his responsibility... 2020-04-25 14-40-42 PDT Moini So, no hurry for you, the form is online until October. 2019-10-05 12-41-46 PDT Moini Merci beaucoup! Downloading from your link now. 2020-04-25 14-26-29 PDT Moini I know you don't have a lot of time, and you've already given an interview - but maybe if you find some time later, we could have our own interview with you? The form's website is even in French ;-) https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 2020-09-10 04-05-23 PDT Moini (url is https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/6329d5e4e13748b9b9f7f33f06a3c376/ ) 2020-12-04 11-24-56 PST Moini ah... :-/ 2020-12-04 11-29-48 PST Moini He's taking it personally, probably because he feels bad about not being able to do more. 2020-12-04 11-27-04 PST Moini He fears we want to get rid of him and sees this as a threat. I'm not good enough at making it clear to him that that's not what people want. Or at least, I hope that's not what people want.

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29 Apr '21

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29 Apr '21

2020-10-13 12-40-27 PDT Mc git grep is magic 2020-10-13 12-53-23 PDT Mc (my thought process when I posted the issue was "heh, that does not really work, let's fix it" -> "that code makes no sense. Wait, no, these options make no sense. Mmmmh... what could make sense here ? Oh, we have ux folks. Let's ask them") 2020-10-13 12-50-21 PDT Mc but even then, I'm like "Hello I'm one of the most active inkscape dev around, I've been using inkscape for 10 years and I do say that this tiny thing miiight need a rethinking" nd the answer is like "nope. works fine" when 30 seconds of testing (just 1/ change to another palette than the default 2/ try anything) show there is something horribly wrong :p 2020-10-13 12-38-38 PDT Mc general advice : 1/ try to look for a word that's not common, and present in the surroundings of what you're looking for -> here I will use "Wrap" 2/ have a general guess at where it is -> it's in the user interface, so we'll look in src/ui/ 3/ git grep '"Wrap"' -> ``` ~/inkscape/src/ui$ git grep '"Wrap"' dialog/swatches.cpp: //TRANSLATORS: "Wrap" indicates how colour swatches are displayed dialog/swatches.cpp: Glib::ustring wrap_label(C_("Swatches","Wrap")); ``` 4/ -> here you go! In that file you'll find that the options are linked to some "_holder->setStyle(...)" calls, so you have to fgind what _holder is. 5/ in swatches.h (the corresponding header file) you'll find it's a PreviewHolder 6/ (but we don't really care ! wer could just git grep ::setStyle -> ``` ~/inkscape/src/ui$ git grep ::setStyle previewholder.cpp:PreviewHolder::setStyle(UI::Widget::PreviewSize size, widget/style-swatch.cpp:void StyleSwatch::setStyle(SPCSSAttr *css) widget/style-swatch.cpp:void StyleSwatch::setStyle(SPStyle *query) ``` 7/ code is in that file :) 2020-10-13 12-45-04 PDT Mc As a side note, I still find that what those two dropdowns do is very unintuitive in general, which is the reason I posted in the ux tracker... I wnated to prompt reflexions about "does anyone put a border ? so do we need that option ?" "If options do nothing, why do we display them ?" "can anyone use the swatches when they are 2 pixels wide ?" "why do the « width » change, change the height ?" and the fact that the answer was mostly "oh everything is fine, here is an ugly squared UI with sliders that adresses none of your points" made me quite sad 2020-10-13 12-56-09 PDT Mc :) 2020-10-13 12-49-38 PDT anonym_i_ous (ref: ux#51) 2020-10-13 12-55-17 PDT anonym_i_ous (continued) but then again, as i have some doubts if people actually change the chip/tile size, i doubt that not closing this would become unwanted (for example after changing the pallete to smth else). 2020-10-13 12-52-35 PDT anonym_i_ous maybe 2020-10-13 11-23-54 PDT anonym_i_ous can u guide me where i can find the code location of the palette options?? 2020-10-13 12-52-18 PDT anonym_i_ous also, one more thing can be improved in ux. that changing the options shouldnt make the menu to disappear. 2020-10-13 12-39-18 PDT anonym_i_ous niice. thanks a lot 2020-10-13 12-51-12 PDT anonym_i_ous haha, yeah, right 2020-10-13 12-48-39 PDT anonym_i_ous not blaming or anyth, but he is a ux/ui person. and so... amh, when we work too much with something, it starts to penetrate in other things as well right!!? i think thats what happened there with him. 2020-10-13 11-23-12 PDT anonym_i_ous hello there 2020-10-13 12-40-10 PDT anonym_i_ous i thought there was some magic way :sweat_smile: 2020-10-13 12-48-21 PDT anonym_i_ous hahahaha. lol yeah i can agreee to that. 2020-10-13 12-40-41 PDT anonym_i_ous (cntd...) like click the action/button and the called command will show up - say in command prompt somehow 2020-10-13 12-56-05 PDT anonym_i_ous yeah, i agree that it would need much thought.

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