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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 1 Users, 2 Messages, 0 Files, 531542 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: jeff.ingersoll & aaron.stimpson
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2020-04-24 13-59-14 PDT Jeff Ingersoll Aaron 2020-04-24 14-03-41 PDT Jeff Ingersoll Aaron, I am wondering if you can help me with Inkscape. I am a leather worker and am trying to make templates. Something like a square with rounded corners and then an 1/8 of an inch from the Stroke like have punch holes placed about every 1/8 of an inch or every 1/4 of an inch around the boarder of the Stroke line

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 13 Messages, 0 Files, 691647 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: ryangorley & pdurbin
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2020-01-11 11-37-01 PST pdurbin I'm really enjoying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI6Y3qBtUAA&t=496 2020-02-04 14-54-14 PST pdurbin Thanks! 2020-01-04 08-33-02 PST pdurbin No worries! And thanks for keeping the meeting moving! :) 2020-01-11 13-51-52 PST pdurbin Are your slides available? 2020-01-04 08-34-26 PST pdurbin Not if this one goes for 3 hours! ;) 2020-02-12 15-29-18 PST pdurbin I just got back from FOSDEM and heard good things about SCALE. 2020-01-04 08-32-43 PST Ryan Gorley It's nice seeing you here. Sorry none of us can meet up with you at FOSDEM 2020-01-31 13-07-17 PST Ryan Gorley Hey, sorry I let this slip. Yes! https://freehive.com/extras/ryan-gorley-scale-presentation-d2.pdf 2020-01-11 12-48-55 PST Ryan Gorley Ah thanks! :) 2020-02-14 11-30-06 PST Ryan Gorley Yeah, I like SCALE. I unfortunately won't make it this year, but Pat David and Mica Semrick put on a good Libre Graphics day of presentations. 2020-01-04 08-34-47 PST Ryan Gorley Finally someone that gets it! 2020-01-04 08-33-29 PST Ryan Gorley We've had meetings go 3 hours, so I have to be a jerk about it. Sorry! :) 2020-01-04 08-33-57 PST Ryan Gorley I hope you'll come back!

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 1 Users, 1 Messages, 0 Files, 253204 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: samuel.pablo.almonacid & 010arya010
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2020-11-03 19-55-39 PST Samuel Pablo Almonacid convertir en mapa de bits

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 15 Messages, 0 Files, 618572 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: Agent & brynn
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2020-02-24 02-58-59 PST Agent Aha, understood. 2020-02-24 02-58-01 PST Agent Or is it something more personal? 2020-02-24 02-59-18 PST Agent Any chance you might be back in the future? 2020-02-24 02-57-39 PST Agent Just out of curiosity, did you resign? 2020-02-24 02-28-05 PST Agent Hi 2020-02-24 02-30-33 PST Agent Inkscape of course. Not the chat, lol. 2020-02-24 02-29-22 PST Agent I am interested in helping out with Moderation, is this position opened at the moment? 2020-02-24 02-45-26 PST Agent https://inkscape.org/*moderators/ Here? 2020-02-24 02-55-32 PST Agent That makes sense. I did click that over a week ago. Thank you for your help. 2020-02-24 02-58-48 PST brynn Yes, I resigned. Long story. 2020-02-24 03-17-44 PST brynn Not unless the moderation system is changed. I disagree with a system where 2 votes are needed to remove spammers. To me, the system is designed not to trust its own moderators. Also, the community asks moderators for more than twice as much time as most forums/websites. So I resigned partly on principle, and partly because I just don't have enough time to do everything that is asked of moderators. 2020-02-24 02-53-46 PST brynn Oh right....I forgot, but I guess that page is broken. It still has me listed as the leader! Well, if you see a button to apply, you could try clicking on it. But maybe you should contact Martin. That would be "at doctormo", except with the "@" symbol instead of "at". 2020-02-24 02-28-37 PST brynn Hi 2020-02-24 02-56-44 PST brynn You're welcome. 2020-02-24 02-44-26 PST brynn I'm not sure, since I'm not a moderator myself, anymore. (Well, I guess I still am in the chat, but not on the gallery or forum.) I don't think more moderators are needed, but I don't really know. As far as I know, you would just apply for the job on the Moderation Team page.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 15 Messages, 0 Files, 1251253 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: Moini & recena
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2020-04-25 14-12-01 PDT Manuel Recena For sure, I will do it tomorrow early morning 2020-04-25 14-15-50 PDT Manuel Recena I would like to figure out new ways to contribute 2020-04-25 14-20-35 PDT Manuel Recena Great, I will ping them 2020-04-25 14-13-15 PDT Manuel Recena My contribution is not important 2020-04-25 14-16-15 PDT Manuel Recena My knowledge area is CI/CD 2020-04-25 14-11-19 PDT Manuel Recena Hello 2020-04-25 14-14-00 PDT Moini We couldn't talk here if it weren't for you. 2020-04-25 14-12-45 PDT Moini Hi :) Cool! Thank you! Don't forget to mention your incredible response time ;-) 2020-04-25 14-20-13 PDT Moini Or ping them now, so you can't forget, but ask for a meeting later ;-) 2020-04-25 14-10-17 PDT Moini Hi Manuel! The Vectors (marketing) team is looking for some Inkscape contributor stories. If you're up to it, I'd like to invite you for our Contributors' interview at https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 . 2020-04-25 14-18-31 PDT Moini I think people in the devel channel just talked about something that concerned Gitlab CI, but I'm not very knowledgeable there myself. Patrick (ede123), Marc (Mc) and Thomas (speleo3) might have some plans already though, that are only waiting for someone to come and help. 2020-04-25 14-21-01 PDT Moini :D 2020-04-25 14-19-37 PDT Moini Could you ping one of them, or all of them? Perhaps after May 1st, because right now they are fixing bugs like crazy for the pending release. Discussions will be more relaxed after that, I think. 2020-04-25 14-14-45 PDT Moini (and even if it were not, I'd have an argument ;-) We'd like to encourage everyone to contribute, and that includes small contributions.) 2020-04-25 14-13-47 PDT Moini It is.

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 1 Users, 1 Messages, 0 Files, 474163 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: lucy & 90210MediaPartners
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2020-06-03 10-19-40 PDT LUCY Hello, I'm new to Inkscape when I import a photo it comes up with a Red Cross how do I change that?

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 170 Messages, 1 Files, 1359676 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: recena & bryce
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2020-08-21 12-44-59 PDT Manuel Recena When I rebooted the system everything around Rocket Chat was working fine. 2018-12-26 15-38-25 PST Manuel Recena Let me check it 2018-09-27 13-05-58 PDT Manuel Recena By the way, it would be great to know who is part of the infrastructure team ;) 2019-02-03 11-38-07 PST Manuel Recena Let me back to the mailman3 subject later. 2018-09-27 12-22-26 PDT Manuel Recena Is there any place where I can see the services that we want to set up? 2018-12-27 01-50-53 PST Manuel Recena By the way, Weblate is ready to deploy on production 2018-09-27 12-05-01 PDT Manuel Recena Ahh perfect 2018-09-27 13-02-32 PDT Manuel Recena I am here for helping 2020-11-08 04-04-53 PST Manuel Recena Do you know if someone has manipulated this VM(5.102.146.198)? 2019-02-03 11-46-21 PST Manuel Recena ok 2020-11-06 13-10-55 PST Manuel Recena I will spend time tomorrow. I hope to get good news. 2018-12-27 01-57-56 PST Manuel Recena In fact, we should deploy the solution over the Christmas 2020-11-08 04-04-16 PST Manuel Recena FYI https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43#note_443680262 2018-12-27 01-44-48 PST Manuel Recena Ok, we can do it but a backup would be recommended 2018-09-27 12-05-54 PDT Manuel Recena It is fine. I just wanted to confirm it 2018-12-27 01-49-14 PST Manuel Recena My main concern is about mongo 2018-09-27 12-05-26 PDT Manuel Recena I am assuming that each service will be deployed into a dedicated machine 2018-09-27 12-16-57 PDT Manuel Recena For that reason, it is better small machines (2Gb) with only one service 2019-02-03 11-53-22 PST Manuel Recena My concern is with credentials related with mongo, mailjet, etc... 2019-02-03 11-41-33 PST Manuel Recena That is great 2018-12-27 01-50-33 PST Manuel Recena Let me investigate a bit, ok? 2018-12-27 01-58-46 PST Manuel Recena It is just running the playbook 2018-12-27 01-45-17 PST Manuel Recena A snapshot of the server 2019-02-03 11-42-55 PST Manuel Recena Thank to this re-deployment we have updated some components ;) 2020-11-08 10-38-21 PST Manuel Recena But the Ansible Playbook wasn't designed to be run having two production environment. I have to perform some changes 2018-09-27 11-43-46 PDT Manuel Recena Hello! 2018-09-27 12-15-33 PDT Manuel Recena I can rework on it, but we need to define the organization firstly 2019-02-03 11-39-37 PST Manuel Recena https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/blob/master/ansible/inventories/… 2018-12-27 01-49-36 PST Manuel Recena If we upgrade the OS many packages will be upgraded as well 2019-02-03 11-51-20 PST Manuel Recena ok 2019-02-03 11-38-28 PST Manuel Recena I had to fix the SMTP configuration 2020-11-08 10-58-24 PST Manuel Recena My user does not have a password and it is not a sudoers 2019-02-03 11-36-04 PST Manuel Recena ok 2020-09-10 23-42-06 PDT Manuel Recena Are you and family safe? 2019-02-03 11-42-08 PST Manuel Recena ok 2019-02-03 11-44-17 PST Manuel Recena But the new version are all of them compatible for Rocket.Chat 2020-11-08 10-36-53 PST Manuel Recena I am going to check the new VM 2019-02-03 11-44-01 PST Manuel Recena Node is update, Mongo is updated, Nginx is updated 2019-02-03 11-39-08 PST Manuel Recena the password was not configurared 2019-02-03 12-11-26 PST Manuel Recena letsencrypt is working fine 2020-08-21 12-46-16 PDT Manuel Recena I would like to perform a full refesh of the environment 2020-08-21 12-46-42 PDT Manuel Recena But it requires time and planning 2019-02-03 11-39-17 PST Manuel Recena because it is not in the configuration file 2019-02-03 11-44-55 PST Manuel Recena thanks. 2019-02-03 11-43-25 PST Manuel Recena 1) My plan is to define a backup for Rocket.Chat 2018-12-27 02-00-29 PST Manuel Recena I will keep you in touch 2018-09-27 11-43-59 PDT Manuel Recena I've just read your email 2018-09-27 12-14-44 PDT Manuel Recena One service, one machine 2018-09-27 12-20-03 PDT Manuel Recena I am going to finish first the playbook for Weblate, deploy it and them, we can discuss the next step 2018-09-27 11-44-18 PDT Manuel Recena I hope to reply to you later 2020-08-21 12-45-43 PDT Manuel Recena IMHO, that dist-upgrade was the root cause of the outage 2019-02-03 11-40-35 PST Manuel Recena when they are consumed from Ansible 2020-08-21 09-53-12 PDT Manuel Recena Hello 2020-11-08 10-39-40 PST Manuel Recena When we are able to shutdown the current production environment? 2019-02-03 11-43-34 PST Manuel Recena 2) Finish Weblate 2019-02-03 11-40-29 PST Manuel Recena I would like to improve how we are managing the passwords and tokens 2019-02-03 11-34-34 PST Manuel Recena Which IP? 2019-02-03 11-46-33 PST Manuel Recena I want to write it and automate it 2019-02-03 11-34-02 PST Manuel Recena Hello Bryce 2019-02-03 11-51-36 PST Manuel Recena I'm checking if everyting is fine on Rocket.Chat 2020-09-06 23-37-39 PDT Manuel Recena Hello! We should move forward the issue on Gitlab about upgrading RocketChat 2019-02-03 11-43-05 PST Manuel Recena I can do it. 2020-08-21 12-47-44 PDT Manuel Recena I will create a proper issue to address this topic 2019-02-03 11-44-32 PST Manuel Recena I think the Ansible Playbook worked very well. 2019-02-03 11-34-22 PST Manuel Recena Is the previous env avaialble? 2020-08-21 09-54-31 PDT Manuel Recena But in advance, I didn't touch anything, just restarting the server after facing the issue 2020-08-21 09-53-56 PDT Manuel Recena I didn't have a chance for participating on the gitlab issue regarding to Rocket.chat service... 2019-02-03 11-36-22 PST Manuel Recena that server is the previous Rocket.Chat, right? 2019-02-03 11-48-35 PST Manuel Recena Have you configured something related to letsencrypt? 2019-02-03 11-38-21 PST Manuel Recena I want to make sure that everything is working fine with Rocket.Chat 2018-12-27 01-57-35 PST Manuel Recena We needed to define the procedure to use the system 2018-09-27 12-28-38 PDT Manuel Recena I don't have any problem about maintaining all the infrastructure, but I need to know the requirements and which thinks I can decide 2018-09-27 12-02-45 PDT Manuel Recena I don't know if I understood correctly from your email 2018-12-27 02-03-07 PST Manuel Recena By the way, Happy Christmas! 2018-12-27 01-46-40 PST Manuel Recena But IMHO the base OS is enough updated 2018-09-27 12-03-14 PDT Manuel Recena But do we plan to have each service on a separated machine, right? 2020-11-08 10-57-50 PST Manuel Recena I'm blocked again. 2018-12-27 01-50-23 PST Manuel Recena And I am not sure a about the compatibility with Rocket.Chat 2018-12-27 01-43-28 PST Manuel Recena What is the motivation? 2018-09-27 12-13-33 PDT Manuel Recena The playbook are being designed in a different manner 2018-09-27 12-16-19 PDT Manuel Recena In any way, if a service grows up, we will need to scale the machine 2018-12-27 01-56-56 PST Manuel Recena From my side, it is done 2019-02-03 17-08-00 PST Bryce Harrington to avoid bus factor issues, it would probably make sense at some point for us to establish a team email that can be used for service registrations and such 2020-09-13 21-01-25 PDT Bryce Harrington Hi recena, yes we're safe. The county adjacent to us had to evacuate and we were on the cusp, but they got the fire near us under control yesterday, and we've not had to actually evacuate. We did pack everything up though. Hard to go through all your possessions and prioritize what small bit you want to preserve. I feel really bad for people around here who have lost their houses, and thankful the fire crews are working so hard. 2018-09-27 12-04-28 PDT Bryce Harrington the sponsored hosting provides us with up to 32G total memory for VMs. We can divide the memory up by 2G increments, thus we have an effective maximum of 16 vms 2018-09-27 12-09-33 PDT Bryce Harrington services/cloudscale_nodes.txt is where my current thoughts on purposes are 2018-12-26 15-09-03 PST Bryce Harrington heya 2020-11-08 08-36-47 PST Bryce Harrington It's at 5.102.146.198 I've set up ssh root access for you and I 2018-12-27 01-58-15 PST Bryce Harrington how? 2020-12-30 10-09-43 PST Bryce Harrington hi recena, I am guessing your time hasn't freed up much. I hope everything is ok. I've got a bit of time over the holidays but it's going to tighten up again after new years. On https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43 Mc had expressed interest in handling the rocketchat upgrade. Later today I'm going to give Mc root access to the machines so he can do the task, unless you tell me otherwise. 2018-12-27 02-06-45 PST Bryce Harrington Happy Christmas to you too! 2018-09-27 12-26-11 PDT Bryce Harrington the most definitive list of services we need to host, was in the original call for hosting, which I think is posted on the main website. Should be googleable I think. 2019-02-03 17-11-18 PST Bryce Harrington another idea might be to set up a mailing list in the new mailman3 and have the incoming emails from infra(a)inkscape.org go there for handling. 2019-02-03 11-35-03 PST Bryce Harrington 5.102.147.13 2020-11-08 08-25-09 PST Bryce Harrington I will create a new node for you, and leave him off ssh 2020-11-08 08-45-00 PST Bryce Harrington I don't usually leave chat.inkscape.org up and running, plus if we're in the midst of an upgrade we may not be able to chat that way anyway 2019-02-01 23-16-49 PST Bryce Harrington error.rocketchat.2019-02-01.txt (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/kz47F6WuL6NxFkYjE/error.rocketchat.20…) 2018-12-27 01-50-53 PST Bryce Harrington yes, no problem 2019-02-03 11-39-13 PST Bryce Harrington ah 2018-09-27 12-13-19 PDT Bryce Harrington similarly, we have our main web server at OSUOSL, but figure keeping another 4G in reserve in case we had to some day self-host that, might also be smart 2018-09-27 12-14-11 PDT Bryce Harrington oh, how are they being designed differently? 2018-09-27 12-13-43 PDT Bryce Harrington however I haven't penciled in either of those in the file, since they're just speculative for now 2020-09-09 15-18-06 PDT Bryce Harrington I thought of two options, one would be to set up a new VM entirely with all new stuff, and migrate the data to it. The other option would be to shut down the chat service, back it up really well, and then attempt to upgrade in place 2018-09-27 12-11-03 PDT Bryce Harrington ian's mailman3 work has been against ubuntu 16.04, so best to keep that isolated for now, at least until it can be moved to ubuntu 18.04 2019-02-03 11-42-46 PST Bryce Harrington do you want to walk through it's creation to learn, or shall I set it up? 2020-09-09 15-15-26 PDT Bryce Harrington my area of Oregon is currently on fire, and I may need to evacuate (we're packing in any case) so I likely will be unavailable at least for a week 2018-09-27 12-09-46 PDT Bryce Harrington however I feel we need a better thought out strategy on how to divide things 2020-11-08 11-29-55 PST Bryce Harrington I thought my provisioning script automatically configured /etc/sudoers for passwordless logins but I see it's still a manual config step 2020-11-08 11-30-10 PST Bryce Harrington which I've done now. 2020-08-21 09-57-50 PDT Bryce Harrington I also installed logwatch, but it pulled in postfix so I purged both. Hopefully that doesn't disrupt anything mail-wise 2019-02-03 17-09-06 PST Bryce Harrington I can establish email redirects via gandi, which would be better than using our own personal email accounts, but it still would just go to one person. 2018-12-27 02-00-01 PST Bryce Harrington ah ok 2019-02-03 11-34-11 PST Bryce Harrington hi 2020-08-21 09-56-32 PDT Bryce Harrington ok 2018-12-27 01-48-07 PST Bryce Harrington okay. Also fwiw, in doing the update to alpha, and running the meltdownchecker script before and after, the difference is modest 2019-02-03 11-41-26 PST Bryce Harrington https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/credentials 2018-09-27 12-23-56 PDT Bryce Harrington credentials/services.txt has a comprehensive listing of services we currently provide, or that are provided to us, and includes some run externally by 3rd parties which we need to be aware of. 2020-09-09 15-18-45 PDT Bryce Harrington your call on what strategy to take. If I'm not evacuated tonight then I can try to at least get things set up for you 2020-11-08 08-46-43 PST Bryce Harrington comments on the gitlab ticket also reach me reasonably quickly 2020-08-21 09-58-44 PDT Bryce Harrington for the security fix, are you planning on patching, or do a full update of rocket.chat to a more current version? 2018-09-27 11-59-01 PDT Bryce Harrington hiya 2019-02-03 11-49-51 PST Bryce Harrington checking... 2019-02-03 11-40-02 PST Bryce Harrington ok I wondered about that 2019-02-03 11-36-59 PST Bryce Harrington correct 2019-02-03 11-48-49 PST Bryce Harrington it sounds like yaron knows ansible and would be interested in helping, and he's been contributing to the project for a long time. it may be beneficial to involve him a little 2019-02-03 11-34-28 PST Bryce Harrington yes 2018-12-27 01-57-48 PST Bryce Harrington yes 2020-11-08 08-24-03 PST Bryce Harrington he had requested ssh access to the machine "as backup". I did not give him permission to go ahead and start the work, certainly not without coordinating with you. 2018-09-27 12-06-31 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm thinking for production machines we may wish some to have more than 2G memory, so that reduces the total. So I'm figuring maybe 6-7 production machines 2018-09-27 12-05-10 PDT Bryce Harrington some of those we want to provide for folks to use for development, a couple we need to reserve for staging purposes, and so we can install services across the remaining ones 2020-08-21 14-44-42 PDT Bryce Harrington no, whatever the problem was had happened prior to the dist-upgrade 2020-11-06 13-12-10 PST Bryce Harrington cool sounds good 2019-02-03 11-38-46 PST Bryce Harrington what was wrong with it? 2019-02-03 17-09-54 PST Bryce Harrington I noticed that gitlab allows email-based bug submissions, so maybe one idea would be to set up a redirect that points at a private gitlab subgroup issue tracker 2019-02-03 11-51-40 PST Bryce Harrington btw, the mailman3 ansible includes a gen_credentials.py script to make random passwords for testing purposes 2019-02-03 17-10-33 PST Bryce Harrington only problem might be that it opens a new bug for every email to that address, and that could be a spam annoyance. 2018-12-26 15-13-25 PST Bryce Harrington I dist-upgraded alpha.inkscape.org. Any concerns if I do the same on chat.inkscape.org? 2018-09-27 12-08-40 PDT Bryce Harrington I figure one production machine should be dedicated to backup, and only backup 2018-09-27 12-16-26 PDT Bryce Harrington yes 2019-02-03 17-11-35 PST Bryce Harrington maybe you have some other ideas to consider? 2018-09-27 12-06-52 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm betting we'll end up with more than 6-7 individual services, so we'll need to have some lesser services piggyback on the same vm 2020-08-21 09-57-11 PDT Bryce Harrington I did a dist-upgrade (since it's not been done in a while) but noticed some error with mongodb when you rebooted it today so didn't want to reboot and break things 2018-09-27 12-12-45 PDT Bryce Harrington I've thought we should keep at least 4G reserved for in case we need to start self-hosting gitlab. That's not planned for now; we're doing fine with their existing service. But we may need something a bit beefy if we have to go that route. I don't know 2018-12-27 01-51-09 PST Bryce Harrington ahh ok I was wondering about that status 2020-11-06 13-12-23 PST Bryce Harrington I should be around 2019-02-03 11-42-02 PST Bryce Harrington there is a README for how to create new service credentials, so me or you can create one for rocketchat admin 2020-11-08 08-46-19 PST Bryce Harrington I for synchronous chat, I'm on IRC freenode as #bryce (I hang out on #ubuntu-devel) however I'm not always watching that (work hours only mostly). 2018-09-27 12-15-42 PDT Bryce Harrington yes 2018-09-27 12-05-23 PDT Bryce Harrington you can see how I split things out in the file in the services repo 2019-02-03 17-08-19 PST Bryce Harrington like maybe infra(a)inkscape.org or something 2019-02-03 11-50-44 PST Bryce Harrington the mailman3 ansible scripts do set up letsencrypt 2020-09-09 15-14-54 PDT Bryce Harrington hi recena, yes you're right 2018-12-27 01-44-08 PST Bryce Harrington none, just an item on my todo list to keep the systems upgraded. 2019-02-03 11-43-37 PST Bryce Harrington ok, I also did an apt-get upgrade on the host, so it's got system updates too. I did not do a dist-upgrade so it's not 100% up to date 2020-11-08 08-23-14 PST Bryce Harrington https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43#note_437576404 2018-09-27 12-17-02 PDT Bryce Harrington cloudscale provides a way to scale the resources, so starting with 2G and moving up should be feasible. I haven't tried that out yet though. 2019-02-03 11-44-22 PST Bryce Harrington Ian has been a lot more active with mailman3 work, and we're nearly done 2020-11-18 00-22-04 PST Bryce Harrington hi recena, sorry again for being a blockage when you were working on the rocketchat upgrade previously. Let me know how I can help you. 2018-09-27 12-29-24 PDT Bryce Harrington the main priorities have been: mailman3, forums, wiki. And the supporting services for those - backup, dns 2018-09-27 12-07-52 PDT Bryce Harrington thus why I suggest putting rocketchat and weblate together one one machine, but if there is a better arrangement I'm open to thoughts 2019-02-03 11-37-47 PST Bryce Harrington but it has mailman3 overlaid on it, so the nginx config and probably other things are incorrect 2019-02-03 11-45-30 PST Bryce Harrington some of the remaining goofs could be addressed via documentation, so the backup info you're writing will help there. 2019-02-03 11-49-32 PST Bryce Harrington no, is that from mailman3? 2020-11-08 08-44-27 PST Bryce Harrington btw, my direct email is bryce(a)bryceharrington.org; I check this regularly when I'm online so that's the fastest way to contact me 2019-02-03 11-40-56 PST Bryce Harrington we have a GPG encrypted store for project credentials with controlled access for who can see it 2018-12-27 01-45-56 PST Bryce Harrington agreed. we don't have a mechanism to create a snapshot though 2020-11-06 13-06-53 PST Bryce Harrington hi recena, sorry again it took me a while to get the machine set up, just wanted to check in if you've had a chance to start work on the node, and if you ran into any other troubles I can help with 2019-02-03 11-44-41 PST Bryce Harrington yes it did, it saved my bacon. Good work 2018-09-27 12-26-57 PDT Bryce Harrington however, I can tell there are going to be a lot of unexpected services needed. Both rocketchat and weblate came up as requests only just recently, and are in neither of those lists. 2020-08-21 09-56-36 PDT Bryce Harrington heya :-)

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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 85 Messages, 1 Files, 1365905 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: ede123 & recena
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 29 Apr '21

29 Apr '21

2018-10-14 12-48-40 PDT Manuel Recena Perfect 2018-09-23 05-36-29 PDT Manuel Recena My English is not good ;( 2018-09-23 04-34-04 PDT Manuel Recena In any case, I don't have any problem with nobody. My apologies if you felt wrong due to my responses. 2018-09-23 04-17-22 PDT Manuel Recena Hello 2018-09-23 05-24-00 PDT Manuel Recena Don't hesitate it 2018-09-23 05-42-30 PDT Manuel Recena As I said, I will move forward the topic 2018-09-23 04-39-59 PDT Manuel Recena There are several levels of administration. 2018-09-23 04-27-10 PDT Manuel Recena I would not take care about this subject for now. Thanks for your advice. 2018-09-23 05-02-23 PDT Manuel Recena I totally agree with you 2018-09-23 05-03-40 PDT Manuel Recena Thanks for you time. I will help you with this proposal chnage into the configuration 2020-09-06 23-31-55 PDT Manuel Recena Really? 2018-09-23 04-46-11 PDT Manuel Recena Changing the configuration? 2018-09-23 04-38-35 PDT Manuel Recena I am not managing the service 2018-09-23 04-50-21 PDT Manuel Recena I prefer to do not interfere on his work around the global configuration 2018-09-23 04-44-04 PDT Manuel Recena The service configuration is leading by other teammates 2020-09-07 12-10-45 PDT Manuel Recena I'm seeing a lot of messages 2020-09-07 12-05-43 PDT Manuel Recena In summary: the service needs to be upgrade (asap) but we are waiting for Bryce Harrington 2020-09-07 12-25-27 PDT Manuel Recena I was working a lot two weekends ago 2020-09-07 11-56-29 PDT Manuel Recena I'm still waiting for a decision here https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43 2020-09-07 12-26-22 PDT Manuel Recena I'm waiting for upgrading the service and this should addressed in a coordinated way. 2020-09-07 12-25-44 PDT Manuel Recena But I don't have permissions to perform a full backup first. 2018-09-23 05-42-07 PDT Manuel Recena ;) 2018-09-23 05-23-42 PDT Manuel Recena @ede123 I have read all the conversation and I see the misunderstanding 2018-09-23 04-27-07 PDT Manuel Recena Is this the problem? 2018-09-23 04-27-21 PDT Manuel Recena This was my last comment 2020-09-07 12-11-37 PDT Manuel Recena https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43#note_400390936 2020-09-07 12-12-17 PDT Manuel Recena https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43#note_400410896 2020-09-07 12-13-48 PDT Manuel Recena ups, it seems there is an issue or something related with the permissions 2020-09-07 12-10-04 PDT Manuel Recena ups 2020-09-07 12-10-37 PDT Manuel Recena the link is correct 2020-09-07 12-09-16 PDT Manuel Recena Please read the comments 2020-09-07 12-04-03 PDT Manuel Recena No. Nobody performed any upgrade 2018-10-14 11-56-57 PDT Manuel Recena `ssh root(a)167.99.220.72` 2020-09-06 23-32-15 PDT Manuel Recena We should report it on gitlab 2020-09-07 12-04-33 PDT Manuel Recena I never said that I was going to upgrade. 2018-09-23 04-34-12 PDT Manuel Recena But I don't understand it ;) 2018-09-23 04-51-19 PDT Manuel Recena I don't have strong opinion 2018-09-23 04-42-25 PDT Manuel Recena I recommended you to move the topic to the mailing list 2018-09-23 05-36-45 PDT Manuel Recena In fact, I collaborate with FOSS in order to improve my English 2018-09-23 04-48-54 PDT Manuel Recena Yes, he is one of the leader 2018-09-23 04-33-01 PDT Manuel Recena I don't know what you expected from my responses. They were very objective and technical. No subjective 2018-09-23 04-17-25 PDT Manuel Recena About what? 2018-09-23 05-23-55 PDT Manuel Recena I will move forward your request 2018-09-23 05-37-06 PDT Manuel Recena Yes, I meant "do not doubt". 2018-09-23 04-38-51 PDT Manuel Recena The service configuration is being leaded by other teammates 2018-09-23 04-45-54 PDT Manuel Recena What do you expect from me? 2018-10-14 11-56-45 PDT Manuel Recena Added 2018-09-23 04-35-18 PDT Patrick What's objective and technical about "I would not take care about this subject for now."? What's the reason? Why not? 2020-09-07 11-58-35 PDT Patrick The issue was only to collect evidence why the update did not work I think (I guess Maren was confused because you mentioned you'd attempt the update, but apparently we're still at the same version) 2020-09-07 03-18-58 PDT Patrick If you find nothing suspicious let's hope nothing bad happened and maybe consider to update our RC instance if possible? (Not sure what happened last time you tried, I guess there were some roadblocks?) 2018-09-23 04-51-03 PDT Patrick I'm happy to ask him again, though. 2018-09-23 04-36-11 PDT Patrick Do we want to annoy them? 2018-09-23 04-59-47 PDT Patrick OK, let's leave it at that for the moment. One more thing (just to explain why I felt some dislike from you side, maybe I interpreted it wrong): For other issues you told me "to check for issues upstream". I totally agree that's usually the correct way. But in this case *you* set up the service, so as we're a team (I hope we are) you were my go-to person. You know rocket chat much better than me, so even if there are issues filed upstream you're more likely to find them and/or find a solution (i.e. it's more efficient). I totally respect that we're all doing this in our spare time, so I understand if you didn't feel like looking into these yourself, but it helps if you say so. Otherwise (if you just say "check upstream") it feels like you're unwilling to help which is not particularly helpful to achieve a welcoming environment for everybody and make people feel like they're on the same team. 2018-10-14 12-04-06 PDT Patrick Thanks! I'll let you know how it goes... 2018-09-23 04-39-27 PDT Patrick By whom? I'll happily re-assign the bug then. (It says "Admin" behind your name, though, just saying... ;-) ) 2020-09-07 12-12-09 PDT Patrick Huh! That's interesting... Seems I'm hitting a GitLab bug! 2020-09-07 11-57-46 PDT Patrick Decision? 2020-09-07 03-16-58 PDT Patrick Well, I have no idea what happened, so I'm unsure what to report. In the best case it was some user error / bug on my end, but in the worst case somebody was trying to inject their code into our instance. 2018-09-23 05-20-14 PDT Patrick Thanks. I already pinged Ryan (I re-used the issue), so if you should flick the switch in the meantime maybe just let him know. 2018-09-23 04-44-50 PDT Patrick If I need to ask the mailing list because you're unable to tell me I'll do so, but your behavior right now is no acceptable in my opinion. It seems there are issues between us after all :-( 2018-09-23 04-42-47 PDT Patrick It's not a topic for the mailing list but for whoever has admin access.... 2020-09-07 12-14-27 PDT Patrick The messages appear with the new link you posted... GitLab never ceases to amaze :-D 2020-09-07 12-18-29 PDT Patrick OK, that clarifies a lot - I had already been wondering why there was no activity on that issue. :facepalm: 2018-09-23 05-40-28 PDT Patrick Cool! Don't worry about your English - it's perfectly fine and I can always ask when I have difficulty understanding a sentence. I guess you and Jabier would really get along well. ;-) He's from Spain, too, and also constantly worries people would not understand him. 2020-09-07 03-17-52 PDT Patrick I have no proof either way, so maybe you can see some evidence in the logs or collect it in admin interface. 2020-09-07 12-13-20 PDT Patrick Clipboard - September 7, 2020 9:13 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/W72ThxKQ9uDQx6SJy/Clipboard%20-%20Sep…) 2020-09-07 12-19-08 PDT Patrick Let's wait for Bryce's reply then... 2018-09-23 05-35-08 PDT Patrick OK, great! I'm looking forward to the weblate implementation. I really like your work so far! (I mean it and I think it's a good time to point it out as sometimes it feels like people are complaining an awful lot, which might be natural as one is usually discussing issues and not the tings that *do* work. So - for all the times I forget to say it - great job!) > Don't hesitate it Did you mean "don't doubt it"? Seems the Spanish word for "hesitate" (dudar) is the same as for "doubt" whereas the meaning is quite different. 2018-09-23 04-28-09 PDT Patrick Don't understand me wrong, it's certainly not a huge issue, but it's an issue nonetheless 2020-09-07 12-09-04 PDT Patrick What specifically do you need from Bryce (he's rather busy lately, but if we ask him for a specific task he might find the time to look into it or maybe we even can find someone else)? 2018-09-23 04-41-31 PDT Patrick Come on... we're constantly understaffed in the Inkscape project, so everybody with access to a service usually is "the one in charge". If you don't feel that way you should communicate that openly (e.g. on the mailing list) and make sure people know whom to ask for support. Otherwise it's becoming frustrating for everybody. 2020-09-06 14-41-21 PDT Patrick This is an alert - We might have malware on our instance. I just wrote a message when the word " @ worm959" was inserted somewhere in the middle. (There's a chance I did saomething stupid on my end, but I'm not aware of anything, so we should triple-check) 2020-09-07 12-13-35 PDT Patrick Seems an issue in loading related branches makes it fail to load the page altogether! 2018-09-23 04-17-57 PDT Patrick Hi Manuel, I'm not sure if I'm misinterpreting the situation which is why I think we should talk before this becomes something more: - First of all it seems there's a certain unexplained tension between us. For every issue I mentioned to you so far you met me with varying levels of rejection. Why is that? Did I do anything to warrant such behavior? - Secondly closing https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/issues/13 off like that without giving any reason came across as incredibly rude. In the Inkscape community we don't close issues without reason. If it's a personal reason (e.g. you don't have the time or you don't think its relevant), then say so and unassign yourself from the bug (remember you specifically asked people to add you as an assignee if they had any issues with the new service, though!). However seeing as this is only flicking a switch I don't understand why there could be any difficulty with this (as I understand it I could do it myself in the web UI if I had the permissions). I feel that you owe me at least an explanation (possibly also an apology). 2018-09-23 04-36-05 PDT Patrick For me it was annoying on the test instance during the hackfest as I did not have created an account yet. Users of this service will feel the same. 2018-10-14 09-02-13 PDT Patrick Hi Manuel, here's the public SSH key: ssh-rsa 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 2020-09-07 12-18-50 PDT Patrick Thanks for figuring that out with me! 2020-09-07 12-13-07 PDT Patrick That's what I'm seeing when visiting the issue without anchor in the link: 2018-09-23 04-37-19 PDT Patrick If not (which I assume goes without saying) we should address this "bug" and the resolution seems trivial unless I'm missing something. However you seem to be blocking it. Why? 2020-09-07 12-09-40 PDT Patrick Did you link the wrong issue? There are no comments... 2018-09-23 04-50-37 PDT Patrick Just to be sure: Are you feeling uneasy setting configurations because you think it needs the "blessing" of the "leadership"? If so: Inkscape is lead by the community. There is no single "leader" for any service. 2020-09-07 12-08-00 PDT Patrick OK, can you add that info to the issue? I don't think people are aware of that... 2018-09-23 04-48-13 PDT Patrick I thought that was the obvious solution... If you don't want to be in charge of configuration (although I don't see how that can be clearly distinguished from setting up the service) then I need to know whom to aks to do just that. Is Ryan the person to ask? 2018-09-23 04-16-44 PDT Patrick @recena Can we talk? 2018-09-23 04-27-48 PDT Patrick That's the second part, yes.

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29 Apr '21

2020-06-07 00-43-09 PDT Costa I was also using the save button or pressing Ctrl + S now and then so there should be somewhere saved right? 2020-06-07 00-42-53 PDT Costa Oh my god I’m sorry I meant Ctrl + C.. But even if it was ctrl + q I was on chrome when i pressed it so why would inkspace close? straight away when i opened it. and even if i closed it by mistake, normally it warns you to save it before you close it unless it’s already saved which means it should be on that file no?

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29 Apr '21

2020-10-15 06-47-32 PDT greytomorrow are you suggesting its elimination? 2020-04-01 22-50-20 PDT greytomorrow It makes so much more sense when you say it! :laughing: Thank you! 2020-10-15 06-49-10 PDT greytomorrow I wasn't privy to that information 2020-03-30 22-10-41 PDT greytomorrow well, then...i'll migrate! thanks for your help. 2020-10-15 06-45-43 PDT greytomorrow Could you clarify "usability/discoverability is bad for the dialog" 2020-10-15 06-49-52 PDT greytomorrow So someone could have posted this information in the issue itself, no? Instead of the free-for-all it has become 2020-10-15 06-55-34 PDT greytomorrow You know what's funny...I DID ask what Paint Servers was when it first appeared...on the forum if I'm not mistaken...and NOBODY could answer me. 2020-03-30 13-20-34 PDT greytomorrow ciao, i see you didn't activate "snap to centers of objects" (who names these things?) It's the 14th icon down on the snap bar. 2020-03-30 05-35-13 PDT greytomorrow ...I believe I had to activate one more snap option...just one second... 2020-10-15 06-50-22 PDT greytomorrow Yelling? I can't even hear you! 2020-10-15 06-52-47 PDT greytomorrow Well, y'know...now I feel foolish...submitting an issue that might not even exist in the next release...and nobody correcting me along the way. 2020-10-15 06-56-57 PDT greytomorrow As you said, you can't know everything. 2020-09-11 00-17-54 PDT greytomorrow or this in this tris of bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1742329 2020-10-15 06-48-49 PDT greytomorrow there's already a "patterns" section in the F&S 2020-10-15 06-59-54 PDT greytomorrow Have a nice day. 2020-03-30 05-33-47 PDT greytomorrow https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1773470 2020-10-15 06-42-06 PDT greytomorrow I think we do. In any case the issue got subverted along the way. I hope you are at least in agreement with this. 2020-10-15 06-46-57 PDT greytomorrow Either to the palette below or the Fill and Stroke dialog 2020-10-20 00-42-28 PDT greytomorrow Thanks all the same: I see that it is still experimental. 2020-03-30 05-39-00 PDT greytomorrow no, thank YOU 2020-10-15 06-59-41 PDT greytomorrow In any case, I'm closing the issue. I'd thank you for your insight into this issue but unfortunately it comes a little late. Your first comment there was merely a disagreement of what to call it and not, "hang on...this may be a temporary thing." 2020-10-15 06-48-11 PDT greytomorrow So you **are** suggesting its elimination 2020-09-11 00-16-59 PDT greytomorrow or this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1742334 2020-10-15 06-45-28 PDT greytomorrow I've been away for a week now, actually. I've come back to this issue after receiving email notifications to find the original issue way off in left field. And I'd appreciate you not being my "gauge" for "taking breaks". 2020-03-30 00-41-17 PDT greytomorrow Guten morgen! :smile: Sorry to disturb you but are you https://launchpad.net/~marenhachmann ? 2020-04-01 05-21-38 PDT greytomorrow It's me again...really sorry to trouble you but there's a bug report that you seemed to understand what the submitter was talking about...if it were totally up to me I'd close with INVALID: WTF :laughing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1763359 but only when you have some free time...no rush...really...DANKE! 2020-03-30 05-37-29 PDT greytomorrow ...which strangely enough, shows the tooltip "Cusp node to object midpoint" 2020-10-15 06-47-06 PDT greytomorrow No 2020-03-30 05-36-37 PDT greytomorrow "Snap to centers of objects" 2020-10-15 06-50-09 PDT greytomorrow Knowing this I would have closed it, knowing it was a temporary step along the way. 2020-10-15 06-38-25 PDT greytomorrow https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/3619#note_430300489 @Moini, it appears I am the only one here **not** allowed to go "over the top". 2020-10-15 06-48-28 PDT greytomorrow Either it exists or it doesn't 2020-03-30 05-33-44 PDT greytomorrow As you know, I'm migrating bugs from Launchpad to GitLab and I've come across another bug submitted by you... 2020-09-11 00-18-07 PDT greytomorrow Thnak you. Reply at your own convenience 2020-03-30 05-34-45 PDT greytomorrow ...and I can snap that node to the bounding box midpoint...BUT... 2020-03-30 13-20-53 PDT greytomorrow I'm not saying it's correct behaviour, I'm just saying it works. 2020-10-15 06-52-36 PDT greytomorrow It wasn't my merge request...in fact, as I wrote, I felt a MR was premature. 2020-10-20 00-39-57 PDT greytomorrow Good morning. Would you be so kind as to point me to documentation on the `Selectors and CSS` dialog panel, please? If documentation isn't your department, then I'm sorry to have bothered you. 2020-03-30 05-34-07 PDT greytomorrow I downloaded the example .svg and tested... 2020-10-15 06-41-10 PDT greytomorrow I don't think so...not at all 2020-03-31 04-58-08 PDT greytomorrow :+1: 2020-09-11 00-16-19 PDT greytomorrow Excuse me, Hachmann :smile: are you still experiencing this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1742331 2020-10-15 06-47-20 PDT greytomorrow Where does that leave the `Paint Server` dialog? 2020-03-30 05-38-04 PDT greytomorrow So...I don't know if this is actually a bug to be migrated or not. Your thoughts? 2020-10-15 06-49-55 PDT Moini Sorry for yelling... 2020-10-15 06-50-59 PDT Moini This may involve UX, and also checking for the 'deeper problem' before trying to solve a superficial one. 2020-10-15 06-47-48 PDT Moini I'm suggesting moving it as a popup or something into the F+S dialog. 2020-10-15 06-47-03 PDT Moini See what I mean? 2020-03-30 05-28-37 PDT Moini Yep, same person. 2020-09-21 14-54-05 PDT Moini [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/greytomorrow?msg=2aExcRn3qAbdTw8Ad) Yes. And you? () 2020-10-15 06-49-35 PDT Moini I KNOW. That's why I've been asking to collect it previous to making rash decisions. 2020-10-15 06-56-47 PDT Moini I only look after the German section. 2020-10-15 06-43-19 PDT Moini Which from my view, is for good reasons. 2020-04-01 14-13-03 PDT Moini Also broken for 'bend from clipboard' and also for Pen tool. 2020-03-31 04-48-10 PDT Moini Thank you! 2020-10-15 06-56-28 PDT Moini Only Martin / doctormo is there, as far as I know. 2020-10-15 06-54-56 PDT Moini I don't think anyone has a problem with that. 2020-10-15 06-48-27 PDT Moini Moving, not deleting. The concept is a good one. 2020-10-15 06-41-22 PDT Moini We may have different views there. 2020-03-30 12-38-00 PDT Moini 1.0.x_snap_cusp_node_to_bbox_midpoint.mp4 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/vAt2vjuT533SzgYQy/1.0.x_snap_cusp_nod…) 2020-10-15 06-47-26 PDT Moini It's not useful in the place where it is. 2020-10-15 06-43-03 PDT Moini Yes, and I know I'm the one who is changing the topic there. 2020-03-30 12-37-47 PDT Moini It doesn't snap for me in 0.92.x nor in 1.0.x 2020-10-15 06-45-54 PDT Moini Sure, I'm not sending you away, just making suggestions that may help. 2020-10-15 06-40-56 PDT Moini No, nobody is. I think you misunderstood the other person. 2020-10-15 06-47-16 PDT Moini The dialog is the problem. 2020-10-15 06-50-33 PDT Moini Hence I've been asking to coordinate first. 2020-04-01 14-12-37 PDT Moini (move the original rectangle after copying to see it) 2020-04-25 15-43-43 PDT Moini Hey grey! You're also invited to fill in our Contributor interview at https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 :) 2020-03-30 12-37-59 PDT Moini 0.92.x_snap_cusp_node_to_bbox_midpoint.mp4 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/LnqgxQ6Dwz5pm7w5E/0.92.x_snap_cusp_no…) 2020-10-15 06-56-15 PDT Moini It's mainly visited and tended to by advanced users. 2020-10-15 06-49-14 PDT Moini Unfortunately, after GSOC ended, he stopped working on it, and so we ended up with the low usability. 2020-10-15 06-50-24 PDT Moini I don't know how plans are for it now. 2020-10-15 06-55-56 PDT Moini Yeah... the forum is not visited by the people who know the plans... mostly. 2020-10-15 06-51-32 PDT Moini It's unfortunate that this 'hits' your merge request, but it is as it is. 2020-10-15 06-49-57 PDT Moini :/ 2020-04-01 14-11-03 PDT Moini Hi - so the user is copying a rectangle to the clipboard and using that for the 'shape' option of the pencil tool. 2020-10-15 07-00-04 PDT Moini Yes, that's true. Have a nice day, too. 2020-10-15 06-54-19 PDT Moini Not everyone is there all the time. Sometimes it can help to ask people about stuff directly, like 'Hey, I see this dialog looks somewhat incomplete, what are the plans for it?'. I'm not sure whether Valentine would have replied, though, so - yes, it's hard, and yes, you can't know everything. That's normal. 2020-10-15 06-42-33 PDT Moini Maybe take a break from that discussion for one or two days, then reread stuff slowly. It's what helps me, usually, when discussions get too hot. There's no urgency in resolving that issue. 2020-09-21 14-54-22 PDT Moini Have you tested the others yourself already? 2020-03-30 14-35-20 PDT Moini The object center is a different thing. Try it with a filtered object where the filter area extends more to one side (e.g. a drop shadow filter). This is a bug, and it is still reproducible. 2020-10-15 06-48-37 PDT Moini It was even intended to move it there. 2020-10-15 06-48-51 PDT Moini Ask Valentin about the original plans. 2020-03-30 05-38-53 PDT Moini I'll look into this later, thanks for letting me know! 2020-10-15 06-46-12 PDT Moini Where would you go if you want to assign a fill to an object?

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