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2020-02-12 18-16-36 PST anonym_i_ous https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=KNZBcPcj4ZQ7RtoXf (i am just sending the message so that i dont forget it, but rn, *please just ignore* the message, i will come back to it after doing some more research, and then will ask u again) where can i study which licence to use, or which one maybe suited to me..... i have tried searching online, but the articles are mostly for user side, and not the creator side.... next method to understand will be to read the whole of license .... and i tried that too and it flies off my mind (or i shall get all the suitable licences, get a print of them, and then read, hopefully with grasp more)...... so, u wanna suggest anything like where to read about them, how to compare different licences, or which part of the licence is related to the creators rights and the right of forks/copying/derivation etc..... btw i am talking for software licences.... ()

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29 Apr '21

2020-03-02 04-39-16 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm not chrome user either. I picked it as most popular one. There should be no problem to do same for firefox. Now it's for everything it finds links to. 2020-03-02 02-32-50 PST Sergei Izmailov Sorry for direct messaging. Unfortunately my announce got little/no attention in devel chat. Probably it was not suitable channel. Here is the idea. The extension finds links to commits and adds direct link to corresponding AppImage artifact (if any). Fairly straightforward, but took me a while to figure out how to deal with it. I plan to do same for Mac and Windows bundles and finally publish the extension in store. It works now but it is still too raw to advertise to use it in a daily basis. It would be nice to get some feedback from potential users ahead of time. Can you help with it? 2020-03-02 15-12-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Yeah, there are options here. I'll consult with Martin and Patric when time comes 2019-05-29 13-23-29 PDT Sergei Izmailov Hi, here is email: sergei.a.izmailov(a)gmail.com and username: sizmailov 2019-05-29 13-40-24 PDT Sergei Izmailov The most difficult part in English is *correct* English. 2019-05-29 13-32-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov Ok, great) 2020-03-02 04-39-05 PST Sergei Izmailov AppImage links (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/F3rsGK8BJtAoz5NjY/AppImage%20links) 2019-05-29 13-28-38 PDT Sergei Izmailov Do you know ETA for 1.0 release? 2020-03-02 04-42-49 PST Sergei Izmailov It's matter of few API calls from web page. 2020-03-02 04-44-32 PST Sergei Izmailov I didn't experience 404 error so far. May be due to poor testing.. 2019-05-29 13-38-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov Nowadays all programming and science done in English. Basically we don't have a choice. 2019-05-29 13-34-07 PDT Sergei Izmailov I do 2020-03-02 04-50-08 PST Sergei Izmailov Can we host a page ourself? 2020-03-02 04-40-47 PST Sergei Izmailov The only Gitlab API problem I faced is the requirement for token with ultimate rights to read PUBLIC information. Now I'm using empty gitlab user token to do the trick. 2019-05-29 13-23-59 PDT Sergei Izmailov Ok, thanks! 2019-05-29 13-36-58 PDT Sergei Izmailov I'm native russian, so for me it's not difficult at all) 2020-03-02 04-53-15 PST Sergei Izmailov Ok. It's better to know the problem to solve first :) 2020-03-02 04-42-29 PST Sergei Izmailov If you want to provide links on web page there should be no obstacles either 2020-03-02 04-53-19 PST Sergei Izmailov Thanks for input 2020-03-02 04-48-35 PST Sergei Izmailov WRT missing artifact. Last commit didn't run applimage:linux job 2020-04-26 01-39-26 PDT Sergei Izmailov Thanks for personal invite but I don't feel of myself as a literate person or one who can write motivating letters (I had nasty experience before ;) Nevertheless I partially filled forms, hope it helps 2020-03-02 15-08-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Win & MacOS already serve most recent links, I'll take a look at it and propose a MR for AppImage. Hopefully I'll be able to do it next week 2020-03-02 13-17-21 PST Sergei Izmailov This kind of indirection requires something that can issue several API quires in a row 2020-03-02 13-16-18 PST Sergei Izmailov You are right, `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/master/download?job=appimage%3Alinux` leads to 404 At the same time `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/456464633/artifacts/raw/Inkscape-2a7dc7f-x86_64.AppImage` works just fine. I don't know whether it's a gitlab bug or not. Of course latter is more cumbersome as it requires one to know job id and commit hash (as it's part of downloadable file) 2019-05-29 13-30-49 PDT Sergei Izmailov I see. I'm not really 100% confident in my english skill. May I ask someone to double check my wiki edits? 2020-03-02 04-45-24 PST Sergei Izmailov But the main purpose of browser extension is to help reviewers/testers 2019-05-29 13-35-30 PDT Sergei Izmailov :smiley: 2019-05-29 13-41-47 PDT Sergei Izmailov I don't use VPN at home. Things are not that bad as it could be. 2019-05-29 13-43-46 PDT Sergei Izmailov Have a good day. I enjoyed the conversation. ) 2020-03-02 02-26-41 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, I'm unfamiliar with reporters workflow, but I think a chrome extension can ease it a bit. https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=M7M3ci4dzzyhYn8kP () 2020-03-02 04-48-19 PST Sergei Izmailov It's still 5 clicks instead of 1... 2020-03-02 04-45-50 PST Sergei Izmailov (I think their time is most valuable) 2019-05-29 13-27-53 PDT Sergei Izmailov Done. Many thanks! 2020-03-02 04-46-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Which repo is it? 2020-03-02 04-41-26 PST Moini And they don't understand how that could be an issue... 2020-03-02 04-50-16 PST Moini Another option would be to make a GitLab MR with your suggestion. 2019-05-29 13-42-23 PDT Moini That's good! It's also difficult for us, because of the script/language barrier, to know how things are. 2019-05-29 13-37-46 PDT Moini (I meant the English for you) 2019-05-29 13-29-31 PDT Moini So, nothing concrete. 2020-03-02 04-50-41 PST Moini We already have a server that can run small scripts and provide links. 2019-05-29 13-29-24 PDT Moini (last time Bryce said something about it) 2020-03-02 15-10-50 PST Moini Best ask Martin and Patrick about how to best make it so it can be available on the website. 2019-05-29 13-34-18 PDT Moini Dobroy vecher :) 2019-05-29 13-32-00 PDT Moini It's just important that the info is available, and you as the person who wrote it know best what the change is doing. 2020-03-02 04-53-53 PST Moini Thanks for your dedication, it's good that you're helping us here! 2020-03-02 04-47-02 PST Moini Testers know where to find artifacts, I think. 2020-03-02 04-43-22 PST Moini And if the build failed, to the latest one that succeeded. 2019-05-29 13-35-28 PDT Moini I can still read it, though. Just don't understand what I read :joy: 2019-05-29 13-28-23 PDT Moini Thank *you* for contributing to Inkscape, Sergei! 2020-03-02 15-10-03 PST Moini (sometimes, people need to click through several pages of the jobs page, that's quite a bit time-consuming) 2019-05-29 13-23-51 PDT Moini I'll set up a Wiki account for you... Wait a minute. 2020-03-02 04-32-55 PST Moini Interesting idea - I'm not using Chrome though. If you want to find testers, try the forum or the user mailing list. Which version do you think is the most important one to test? If this is mainly for most recent master / most recent 1.0.x, and not for bug triage (I think those people know where they are supposed to find downloadable files, esp. on Linux, and bug fixers will link to the correct packages directly when they ask someone to test their new feature/fix), I know of another place where this would be more important. This is the official download page on the website. We do have direct links to the latest macOS and Windows builds - however, there is a GitLab bug blocking us from being able to provide a reliable link for Linux AppImages. It's probably possible to automate the instructions that we currently have on the website for that case. 2020-03-02 15-12-48 PST Moini Thanks, that would be cool! 2019-05-29 14-09-38 PDT Moini Early september: release ! 2020-03-02 04-47-20 PST Moini Either someone links to it for them, or they already know their way around. 2020-03-02 04-45-46 PST Moini Currently, the link is missing entirely... https://imgur.com/CdU61P0.png 2019-05-29 13-41-02 PDT Moini As long as it's understandable, you don't need to worry about Inkscapers. 2019-05-29 13-37-57 PDT Moini (but I guess you got that) 2019-05-29 13-33-59 PDT Moini You speak Russian? 2019-05-29 13-31-04 PDT Moini Yes, of course. 2020-04-25 14-58-52 PDT Moini Hi Sergei! I think you've contributed quite a lot of smart things to the 1.0 release (at least I rarely understood anything ;-) ). If you're up for it, we are currently doing this contributor interview at https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 - I think it would be interesting to hear from you, too! 2020-03-02 04-46-06 PST Moini Oops. 2019-05-29 13-41-25 PDT Moini Except China. 2019-05-29 13-32-15 PDT Moini So, don't worry about that. 2020-03-02 04-48-53 PST Moini It should still be in the 'previous' list... 2019-05-29 13-34-41 PDT Moini (I don't remember much from my Russian course, it's long ago ) 2019-05-29 13-39-40 PDT Moini Probably an additional barrier. 2020-03-02 04-46-36 PST Moini https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/ 2020-03-02 15-11-36 PST Moini I don't know which way to put this online would be preferred. 2020-03-02 04-47-42 PST Moini It's the casual beta testers who cannot find things. 2020-03-02 04-49-34 PST Moini Or at least there should be an easy way to provide it directly from the website, where people come to download things. 2020-03-02 15-09-12 PST Moini It's not urgent, this issue exists for quite some time. But it would really be nice to have a solution for it :D 2019-05-29 14-09-15 PDT Moini Just got to reading my emails. Marc provided an updated roadmap for the release there: - As soon as possible: 1.0~alpha2 - Between mid-june and end of june (when toolbar and immediately noticeable bugs are fixed): 1.0~beta - End of June: Feature freeze and 1.0 branch - End of July: String freeze - Between mid-june and mid-august: bug hunt! 2019-05-29 13-42-54 PDT Moini Anyway, have a great evening, Sergei! 2019-05-29 14-09-53 PDT Moini (on the developer's mailing list) 2020-03-02 15-03-57 PST Moini The bug report is here: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-foss/issues/45697 (and it was closed by Gitlab) 2019-05-29 13-26-00 PDT Moini Your Wiki password is now ui5ahK0Eih . Please change it as soon as possible! Wiki usernames always start with a capital letter, so use Sizmailov when trying to log in :) 2019-05-29 13-23-41 PDT Moini Thanks! 2020-03-02 04-41-12 PST Moini It often gives a 404 for the latest build artifacts. 2019-05-29 13-29-01 PDT Moini 'Sometime this summer or fall' 2019-05-29 13-39-59 PDT Moini Aside from needing VPN for some things, I guess. 2020-04-26 09-52-45 PDT Moini Yes! Thank you, Sergei! Not everyone needs to create a work of word art. If there are only people who can write great texts, who would do the good and solid programming? 2020-03-02 15-01-20 PST Moini Yes, it basically needs to do the set of instructions here: https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-master/gnulinux/appimage/dl/ - only automagically. And with a max depth, so it won't take forever ;-) 2019-05-29 13-41-34 PDT Moini And Africa. 2020-03-02 04-51-19 PST Moini Or it could be an official part of the website code, of course. 2019-05-29 13-31-27 PDT Moini (I'll be editing there a lot anyway, and we might get the help of a documentation writer with it, too) 2020-03-02 04-48-11 PST Moini They'd only be confused. 2020-03-02 04-47-53 PST Moini But they don't need all those various commits. 2019-05-29 13-37-22 PDT Moini :) 2020-03-02 04-52-44 PST Moini Need to go now - if you want to go further with this, you can talk with Martin / doctormo about implementation details. 2020-03-02 04-46-03 PST Moini Oh, I guess that was the wrong repo... 2020-03-02 15-11-21 PST Moini js, python, ... fixed link on alpha, or part of inkscape-web etc. 2019-05-29 13-39-21 PDT Moini Yes, that's true. 2020-03-02 04-51-04 PST Moini It's where inkchatbot lives, for example. 2019-05-29 13-41-16 PDT Moini They are used to people coming from everywhere. 2020-03-02 04-42-59 PST Moini It only needs one to latest master AppImage and latest 1.0.x AppImage... 2019-05-29 13-36-03 PDT Moini So I can imagine how difficult it must be. 2020-03-02 04-46-23 PST Moini No, correct...

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29 Apr '21

2020-03-05 05-03-54 PST Dana hello I'm new to inkscape, I've been watching YouTube videos trying to master the offset/shadow tool. I noticed that some Fonts people are using are not available. How do I import more Font options?

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2020-08-22 16-11-44 PDT Significantcell https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-ci-docker/-/raw/master/install_depende…

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2020-09-26 09-54-00 PDT Significantcell Good night 2020-09-15 06-14-53 PDT Significantcell I use 2020-09-15 06-14-51 PDT Significantcell Ah, Ok 2020-09-15 06-11-06 PDT Significantcell I am not a native english speaker but I use grammarly to correct my typos when I write 2020-09-03 14-04-18 PDT Significantcell I hope you are doing very well 2020-09-15 06-10-23 PDT Significantcell I wanted just to help you 2020-09-26 09-53-08 PDT Significantcell Hello mate 2020-09-15 06-11-26 PDT Significantcell I greatly appreciate your contributions to inkscape 2020-09-26 09-53-15 PDT Significantcell You are doing a good job 2020-09-15 06-16-02 PDT Significantcell https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/microsoft-editor/gpaiobkfhnonedkh… 2020-09-15 06-10-16 PDT Significantcell Oh thanks! 2020-09-03 07-31-07 PDT Significantcell Hello Adam 2020-09-15 06-09-14 PDT Significantcell Sorry for disturbing you ;) 2020-09-15 06-12-53 PDT Significantcell Are you are aware about it? 2020-09-15 06-11-44 PDT Significantcell So I thought it is nice to suggest grammarly for you 2020-09-26 09-53-20 PDT Significantcell :) 2020-09-15 06-16-01 PDT Significantcell but unfortunately it works only chromium based browsers like google chrome, brave, etc 2020-09-15 06-15-06 PDT Significantcell Microsoft editor too, it works on rocket chat 2020-09-15 06-14-04 PDT Adam Belis it does nto work in rockat chat 2020-09-15 06-13-54 PDT Adam Belis :D thanks for suggestion . you will be surprised but i use grammarly :D (i know it does not look like it ) 2020-09-15 06-14-24 PDT Adam Belis i am just too lazy i guess :D 2020-09-26 09-53-40 PDT Adam Belis hi .. lol thanks 2020-09-03 13-08-51 PDT Adam Belis hi 2020-09-26 09-57-16 PDT Adam Belis night 2020-09-15 06-10-34 PDT Adam Belis how ? 2020-09-15 06-09-47 PDT Adam Belis hi can i help you somhow ?

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2020-07-16 13-33-28 PDT Orestas Hey, so I have a question. I was working on a project and all of a sudden an error occurred and Inkscape shut down, and I didn't have time to save it but it did say it was saved on the alert. The problem is i quickly turned it off and didn't see where it was saved and i need your help to tell me where it saved. I'd really appreciate your help.

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2020-08-05 11-43-44 PDT chris Hi there regarding the txt downwards still having issues and trying to work out how to chat so this would be easier thank you

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29 Apr '21

2020-01-18 12-59-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Here are my results ``` Inkscape 1.1-dev (031d86a, 2020-01-16) 0.29879935100325383 s Inkscape 1.1-dev (4cfd59b, 2020-01-17) 0.35072101598780137 s Inkscape 1.0beta2 (43f5480, 2020-01-18) 0.3234521280101035 s ``` 2020-01-26 09-05-48 PST Sergei Izmailov (the cusp part) 2020-01-18 14-30-21 PST Sergei Izmailov i have skype and discord 2020-01-18 13-33-01 PST Sergei Izmailov what is wrong? 2020-01-19 08-25-42 PST Sergei Izmailov you have "def" in the middle of file 2020-01-18 13-00-29 PST Sergei Izmailov Numbers tend to differ by approx 0.1 second 2020-01-26 09-01-14 PST Sergei Izmailov I tested builds around my MR 2020-01-18 14-24-51 PST Sergei Izmailov hm 2020-01-18 13-53-22 PST Sergei Izmailov Why all files are 0 KB on your screenshot? 2020-01-26 11-40-24 PST Sergei Izmailov Too many moving parts are involved to wrap head around it. Maybe I'll get to this some time later 2020-01-18 14-27-31 PST Sergei Izmailov there is no such file 2020-01-18 14-04-53 PST Sergei Izmailov Paths are correct, right 2020-01-26 09-16-20 PST Sergei Izmailov My code may only alter the node type 2020-01-18 13-26-27 PST Sergei Izmailov That happens to everyone at first 2020-01-18 14-23-24 PST Sergei Izmailov i mean 2020-01-18 13-39-57 PST Sergei Izmailov wow, that strange 2020-03-02 02-22-38 PST Sergei Izmailov Cool. Sorry for direct messaging. Unfortunately my announce got little/no attention in devel chat. It works now but it is still too raw to advertise to use it in a daily basis and not instllable from store. 2020-01-18 13-05-02 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you start python interpreter in console? 2020-01-18 12-41-45 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, I think I'm finished with the benchmark script 2020-01-18 13-14-50 PST Sergei Izmailov Did it work? 2020-01-26 09-39-45 PST Sergei Izmailov inkscape build is quite ~~slow~~ long 2020-01-18 13-52-02 PST Sergei Izmailov 32 should work on both 2020-01-18 14-04-55 PST Sergei Izmailov ? 2020-01-18 14-13-19 PST Sergei Izmailov add just two print lines to the script 2020-01-18 14-06-50 PST Sergei Izmailov it's not a bundle 2020-01-18 08-43-25 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi! 2020-01-18 14-34-59 PST Sergei Izmailov greenmaus#3201 2020-01-18 14-32-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Let me find the "add" button 2020-03-01 01-17-31 PST Sergei Izmailov The extension finds links to commits and adds direct link to corresponding AppImage artifact (if any) 2020-01-26 11-36-17 PST Sergei Izmailov you mean "sodipodi:nodetype"? 2020-01-18 08-48-49 PST Sergei Izmailov Correctness check is a separate task. No need to do all at once 2020-01-26 09-01-27 PST Sergei Izmailov The nodes are cusp, but shape is preserved 2020-01-18 13-22-02 PST Sergei Izmailov Should end with `python.exe` 2020-01-18 14-34-48 PST Sergei Izmailov not sure how many identities this one have 2020-01-18 13-13-27 PST Sergei Izmailov command in console should be `"C:\.....\WindowsApps\python3" run_benchmark.py` 2020-01-18 12-52-42 PST Sergei Izmailov type `cmd` - you will see the console 2020-01-18 13-25-23 PST Sergei Izmailov It creates file, but fails to start inkscape 2020-01-18 14-03-21 PST Sergei Izmailov Is it better now? 2020-01-18 12-46-01 PST Sergei Izmailov Cool 2020-01-18 14-13-45 PST Sergei Izmailov don't use tabs, spaces only 2020-01-19 08-23-17 PST Sergei Izmailov Seems to be more or less correct 2020-01-18 14-21-04 PST Sergei Izmailov ```python #!/usr/bin/python3 import subprocess import shutil, os from timeit import default_timer as timer def measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, verbs): temp_svg = "temp.svg" shutil.copyfile(input_svg, temp_svg) cmd = ([inkscape_executable, f"--verb={';'.join(verbs)}", temp_svg]) # print(" ".join(cmd)) t1 = timer() subprocess.call(cmd, stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL) t2 = timer() os.remove(temp_svg) # comment out this line to check results of inkscape invocation return t2 - t1 def inkscape_version(inkscape_executable): output = subprocess.check_output([ inkscape_executable, "--version" ], stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL).decode('utf-8') for line in output.split('\n'): if "Inkscape" in line: return line return "Unknown" def measure_object_to_path(inkscape_executable, input_svg): action_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] base_line_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] # cold run to minimize measurement errors measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) # actual measurements baseline = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) payload = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, action_verbs) return payload - baseline if __name__ == "__main__": inkscape_executables = [ "./Inkscape-031d86a-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-4cfd59b-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] test_file = "100-spirals.svg" with open("results.txt", "w") as results: for exe in inkscape_executables: print(os.path.abspath(os.curdir)) print(exe) version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) ``` 2020-01-18 13-35-44 PST Sergei Izmailov so it did work? 2020-01-18 13-51-47 PST Sergei Izmailov probably yes 2020-01-18 13-48-06 PST Sergei Izmailov What a windows mistery 2020-01-18 12-53-36 PST Sergei Izmailov type `cd "C:\path\to\bench"` 2020-01-18 13-38-17 PST Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/adam.belis?msg=iq8ix8DGyFYz9hC6M) is path same as here? () 2020-01-19 08-25-34 PST Sergei Izmailov oh 2020-01-18 13-17-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Did you type it right? 2020-01-18 14-33-19 PST Sergei Izmailov it says there are many of you 2020-01-18 12-45-30 PST Sergei Izmailov within `if __name__==` clause 2020-01-18 15-24-59 PST Sergei Izmailov Ok, thanks 2020-01-18 13-11-30 PST Sergei Izmailov find it's absolute path 2020-01-18 14-28-54 PST Sergei Izmailov show your script again 2020-01-18 12-58-16 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm not using windows on daily basis. Just read that you can click on script to run it 2020-01-26 09-37-55 PST Sergei Izmailov Let's see if it would help 2020-01-18 13-39-22 PST Sergei Izmailov now you are using powershell 2020-01-18 08-58-09 PST Sergei Izmailov Thanks! 2020-01-18 12-53-42 PST Sergei Izmailov with proper path to benchmark 2020-01-18 13-00-34 PST Sergei Izmailov sure 2020-01-18 12-43-46 PST Sergei Izmailov bench-inkscape.zip (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/bc7aWzAoYnnreSkvr/bench-inkscape.zip) 2020-01-18 14-12-52 PST Sergei Izmailov what does it print? 2020-01-18 13-21-11 PST Sergei Izmailov The path on last screenshot doesn't match to what you've shown earlier with explorer 2020-01-18 13-20-15 PST Sergei Izmailov Can't you run pyton3.8? 2020-01-18 15-40-48 PST Sergei Izmailov I remember a friend of mine running inkscape on a quite decent laptop and it was extreemly slow 2020-01-18 13-22-04 PST Sergei Izmailov right 2020-01-19 08-23-21 PST Sergei Izmailov let me check 2020-01-26 09-14-22 PST Sergei Izmailov Actually not really. It seems like the doc's patch is responsible for that 2020-01-18 14-21-14 PST Sergei Izmailov should look like this 2020-01-18 14-23-21 PST Sergei Izmailov to console 2020-01-19 08-26-42 PST Sergei Izmailov compare to original file 2020-01-18 13-09-32 PST Sergei Izmailov 2. you can verify it by `dir` command 2020-01-18 14-09-50 PST Sergei Izmailov add two prints just to see where we are and what is `exe` 2020-01-26 09-04-48 PST Sergei Izmailov Nodes are cusp even for single circle 2020-01-18 14-26-56 PST Sergei Izmailov no 2020-01-18 13-47-59 PST Sergei Izmailov You didn't change single file in the directory 2020-01-19 08-25-25 PST Sergei Izmailov did work for me 2020-01-26 11-36-48 PST Sergei Izmailov this error seems to be with arc->path conversion 2020-01-26 11-35-45 PST Sergei Izmailov some change just triggered it 2020-01-18 08-52-27 PST Sergei Izmailov Do you know python? 2020-01-18 14-17-38 PST Sergei Izmailov same button as ~ 2020-01-18 13-25-01 PST Sergei Izmailov why not? 2020-01-26 09-06-10 PST Sergei Izmailov Another part is that this conversion simply done wrong 2020-01-18 12-45-15 PST Sergei Izmailov The important part is at the bottom 2020-01-18 12-56-33 PST Sergei Izmailov paths to inkscape executables in `run_benchmarks.py` could be relative or absolute 2020-01-18 14-32-34 PST Sergei Izmailov It says "Add Server" 2020-01-18 08-57-45 PST Sergei Izmailov I saw artifacts for linux and mac, but not for windows. 2020-01-18 14-17-48 PST Sergei Izmailov but without shift 2020-01-18 12-47-19 PST Sergei Izmailov At the end it prints time difference between `['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit']` and `['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit']` 2020-01-18 08-46-09 PST Sergei Izmailov By the way is there any performance testing in CI? I doubt they exist as it would require stable environment (same machine, number of free cores, etc) 2020-01-18 14-14-45 PST Sergei Izmailov file is saved? 2020-01-18 14-15-03 PST Sergei Izmailov can't be 2020-01-19 08-35-30 PST Sergei Izmailov you are welcom 2020-01-18 14-18-42 PST Sergei Izmailov remove first one 2020-01-26 08-49-18 PST Sergei Izmailov yes, by doctormo 2020-01-18 13-34-08 PST Sergei Izmailov Should not matter 2020-01-18 08-44-17 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you tell how you measure performance? 2020-01-18 13-58-02 PST Sergei Izmailov second 2020-01-18 14-27-55 PST Sergei Izmailov it cannot find `C:\....\inkscape.exe` 2020-01-26 09-38-36 PST Sergei Izmailov :) 2020-01-26 09-38-30 PST Sergei Izmailov On success it would be one char MR 2020-01-18 13-38-58 PST Sergei Izmailov right. 2020-01-26 09-02-01 PST Sergei Izmailov The latest master build is broken 2020-01-18 12-43-09 PST Sergei Izmailov Damn. Cannot attach .py here 2020-03-01 01-16-03 PST Sergei Izmailov Hi, can you tell which browser do you use? Would something like https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=M7M3ci4dzzyhYn8kP be helpful for you (except it would be appveyor and windows)? () 2020-01-18 14-17-09 PST Sergei Izmailov ``` ``` 2020-01-26 08-52-21 PST Sergei Izmailov https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/1337 2020-01-18 08-56-07 PST Sergei Izmailov One more question. How do you obtain inkscape builds? 2020-01-18 13-43-33 PST Sergei Izmailov so you cannot start python from start menu either? 2020-01-18 14-25-03 PST Sergei Izmailov you covered interseting part with ptyhon screen 2020-01-18 14-27-16 PST Sergei Izmailov it 's usually what it says it is 2020-01-18 14-21-53 PST Sergei Izmailov did it? 2020-01-26 09-41-56 PST Sergei Izmailov To become a computational physicist I had to develop some sys admin skills. not a big trouble at my side 2020-01-18 14-05-39 PST Sergei Izmailov did you save the file? 2020-01-26 09-39-37 PST Sergei Izmailov I'll be back in hours 2020-01-18 08-51-20 PST Sergei Izmailov Good idea with number of spirals by the way 2020-01-18 12-44-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Indeed. It wouldn't trick gmail thogh 2020-01-18 13-23-10 PST Sergei Izmailov Still no luck? 2020-01-18 08-53-59 PST Sergei Izmailov I have to go right now, I'll be back in a couple of hours (hopefully with benchmark script) 2020-01-18 12-51-33 PST Sergei Izmailov I pasted whole file to ease patching :) 2020-01-18 13-50-50 PST Sergei Izmailov https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.8.1/ 2020-01-18 12-48-12 PST Sergei Izmailov say `results.txt` 2020-01-26 08-52-45 PST Sergei Izmailov is directly related to unions 2020-01-18 14-08-10 PST Sergei Izmailov can work i guess, but it's so dirty 2020-01-26 11-38-52 PST Sergei Izmailov What I meant is that converted arcs should have smooth nodetype after convertion no matter what 2020-01-18 12-49-56 PST Sergei Izmailov ```python #!/usr/bin/python3 import subprocess import shutil, os from timeit import default_timer as timer def measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, verbs): temp_svg = "temp.svg" shutil.copyfile(input_svg, temp_svg) cmd = ([inkscape_executable, f"--verb={';'.join(verbs)}", temp_svg]) # print(" ".join(cmd)) t1 = timer() subprocess.call(cmd, stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL) t2 = timer() os.remove(temp_svg) # comment out this line to check results of inkscape invocation return t2 - t1 def inkscape_version(inkscape_executable): output = subprocess.check_output([ inkscape_executable, "--version" ], stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL).decode('utf-8') for line in output.split('\n'): if "Inkscape" in line: return line return "Unknown" def measure_object_to_path(inkscape_executable, input_svg): action_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] base_line_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] # cold run to minimize measurement errors measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) # actual measurements baseline = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) payload = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, action_verbs) return payload - baseline if __name__ == "__main__": inkscape_executables = [ "./Inkscape-031d86a-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-4cfd59b-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] test_file = "100-spirals.svg" with open("results.txt", "w") as results: for exe in inkscape_executables: version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) ``` 2020-01-18 12-52-11 PST Sergei Izmailov Back to question "how to run" 2020-01-18 13-49-25 PST Sergei Izmailov https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44394965/cant-run-python-on-windows-any… 2020-01-18 14-08-14 PST Sergei Izmailov :) 2020-01-18 13-33-04 PST Sergei Izmailov didn't get it 2020-01-26 09-36-47 PST Sergei Izmailov Let me test one idea, my be it will fix that 2020-01-18 13-37-56 PST Sergei Izmailov but you were able to start python, what's changed? 2020-03-01 01-17-55 PST Sergei Izmailov Fairly straightforward, but took me a while to figure out how to deal with it. 2020-01-18 08-50-07 PST Sergei Izmailov something like this 2020-01-18 14-33-06 PST Sergei Izmailov found 2020-01-18 13-44-15 PST Sergei Izmailov hell, i don't understand what's going on 2020-01-18 13-39-29 PST Sergei Izmailov it used to be plain cmd 2020-01-18 13-24-26 PST Sergei Izmailov is path to exe correct? 2020-01-18 08-58-16 PST Sergei Izmailov Yeah, found 2020-01-18 15-42-14 PST Sergei Izmailov 10x is quite a lot, meaning there is whole room of optimizations. Maybe not in inkscape itself... 2020-01-26 11-34-32 PST Sergei Izmailov I'm not sure what exactly is going on there 2020-01-18 13-05-44 PST Sergei Izmailov to folder with script and 100-spirals 2020-01-18 14-29-02 PST Sergei Izmailov can you share screen? 2020-01-18 13-09-38 PST Sergei Izmailov it should show .py and .svg 2020-01-18 12-44-28 PST Sergei Izmailov Zip has two files: 100-spirals.svg is ... 100 spirals 2020-01-18 14-11-32 PST Sergei Izmailov yep 2020-01-18 08-49-19 PST Sergei Izmailov I think actions/verbs can give better time resolution and it can be automated 2020-01-18 12-47-55 PST Sergei Izmailov It prints results in console 2020-01-26 09-37-44 PST Sergei Izmailov Going to change ```cpp int const num_sectors = abs(sang - eang) * 2 / M_PI + 1; ``` to ```cpp int const num_sectors = abs(sang - eang) * 4 / M_PI + 1; ``` 2020-01-18 14-34-28 PST Sergei Izmailov i'm `greenmaus` 2020-01-19 08-26-33 PST Sergei Izmailov `with ` and what follows should be 4 spaces right 2020-01-26 11-35-27 PST Sergei Izmailov I think the problem might be somewhere else 2020-01-18 14-01-28 PST Sergei Izmailov forget what I said about escaping 2020-01-18 12-54-03 PST Sergei Izmailov Note quotes, they are most likely necessary 2020-01-18 14-20-50 PST Sergei Izmailov right, you are not familar with programming 2020-01-18 14-05-55 PST Sergei Izmailov I think first one 2020-01-18 13-34-52 PST Sergei Izmailov You can start with one inkscape to test it's wokring 2020-01-18 13-10-36 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you find pytohn in "start" menu 2020-01-18 08-53-13 PST Sergei Izmailov No problem :) 2020-01-18 13-09-58 PST Sergei Izmailov Let's find out where your python executable is 2020-01-18 12-54-36 PST Sergei Izmailov now you should be able to call the script by `python3 run_benchmarks.py` 2020-01-18 14-06-11 PST Sergei Izmailov copy `inkscape.exe` to folder with script 2020-01-18 13-41-48 PST Sergei Izmailov There must be some starter python pack for windows to make it easy to start, just as in linux:) 2020-01-18 08-50-03 PST Sergei Izmailov `time inkscape --actions='select-all;path-to-objects;exit' sample.svg` 2020-01-18 13-01-54 PST Sergei Izmailov results.txt should appear in same directory 2020-01-26 09-02-24 PST Sergei Izmailov It might be possible to bisect 2020-01-18 14-01-51 PST Sergei Izmailov Just add `r` before the strings 2020-01-18 14-13-35 PST Sergei Izmailov the surrounding should give idea where they should be 2020-01-18 14-16-15 PST Sergei Izmailov tripple back quotes 2020-01-26 08-52-56 PST Sergei Izmailov and is also recent change 2020-01-18 13-21-30 PST Sergei Izmailov last part is missing 2020-01-19 08-33-07 PST Sergei Izmailov sometimes i just can't read what you type :) 2020-01-18 13-02-06 PST Sergei Izmailov and inkscape should show and close for a moment 2020-01-18 12-51-46 PST Sergei Izmailov No, you need to specify bundles for win 2020-01-26 11-36-30 PST Sergei Izmailov i don't think so 2020-01-18 13-54-04 PST Sergei Izmailov [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/adam.belis?msg=okGR2MdeE2s4h8oaP) this one () 2020-01-18 12-45-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Can you read through it? 2020-01-18 12-46-39 PST Sergei Izmailov What it does: It runs inkscape and instructs it with "verb"s 2020-01-18 12-52-36 PST Sergei Izmailov Hit `win+R` - a prompt should appear 2020-01-18 14-06-41 PST Sergei Izmailov No, it would not work 2020-01-18 14-14-19 PST Sergei Izmailov why it didn't print anything? 2020-01-18 14-17-26 PST Sergei Izmailov it's above the "TAB" 2020-01-18 13-25-47 PST Sergei Izmailov of course, those are linux bundles 2020-01-19 08-25-59 PST Sergei Izmailov You broke indentation 2020-01-18 14-30-08 PST Sergei Izmailov I can start video call, but 's not what we want 2020-01-18 12-55-58 PST Sergei Izmailov Not necessary, but could be 2020-01-18 13-47-45 PST Sergei Izmailov How it broke? 2020-01-18 13-59-37 PST Sergei Izmailov I think you can just replace bacslashes `\` with normal ones `/` 2020-01-26 09-16-01 PST Sergei Izmailov For sure 2020-01-18 14-34-00 PST Sergei Izmailov Clipboard - January 19, 2020 1:33 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/rTYgAHXy4wLHRdBup/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-09-32 PST Sergei Izmailov ```python for exe in inkscape_executables: print(os.path.abspath(os.curdir)) print(exe) version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) ``` 2020-01-18 12-48-06 PST Sergei Izmailov I can change it to file 2020-01-18 14-02-07 PST Sergei Izmailov so it would be `r"C:\Users...` 2020-01-18 14-29-24 PST Sergei Izmailov I never tried 2020-01-18 08-45-13 PST Sergei Izmailov Maybe I can help to create the benchmark 2020-01-18 13-08-43 PST Sergei Izmailov 1. Can you start interpreter? 2. Can you change to desired directory? 2020-01-19 08-27-34 PST Sergei Izmailov It might be not a bad idea to learn python. It's everywhere nowadays 2020-01-18 13-19-51 PST Sergei Izmailov May be I'm trying to do it "linux way" 2020-01-18 14-18-39 PST Sergei Izmailov you added extra for loop 2020-01-26 11-34-11 PST Sergei Izmailov nyah, didn't work 2020-01-26 11-35-02 PST Sergei Izmailov number of segments doesn't affect number of nodes 2020-01-18 12-44-36 PST Sergei Izmailov and run_benchmark.py 2020-01-18 08-54-13 PST Sergei Izmailov Thanks for investigating it! 2020-01-18 08-50-57 PST Sergei Izmailov I can show you and/or do it mysefl 2020-01-18 12-55-18 PST Sergei Izmailov or whatever python executable name is 2020-01-18 13-40-24 PST Sergei Izmailov i had my machine running years without reboots) 2020-01-26 11-42-26 PST Sergei Izmailov ok 2020-01-18 08-52-05 PST Sergei Izmailov Do you use linux/windows. How comfortable are you with console? 2020-01-18 14-00-29 PST Sergei Izmailov You can use backslash, but you need to "escape" it 2020-01-18 13-21-23 PST Sergei Izmailov Oh 2020-01-26 08-50-50 PST Sergei Izmailov You mean the path is distorted, right? 2020-01-18 13-51-41 PST Sergei Izmailov is your pc 64 bit? 2020-01-26 09-05-36 PST Sergei Izmailov The problem is that arc->cubic bezier is done with insufficient precision 2020-01-18 12-48-26 PST Sergei Izmailov do you have python3? 2020-01-18 14-00-37 PST Sergei Izmailov `\` -> `\\` 2020-01-18 13-52-09 PST Sergei Izmailov 64 is preferable 2020-01-18 14-17-58 PST Sergei Izmailov yay 2020-01-18 14-21-44 PST Sergei Izmailov yes, but it should print someting in front 2020-01-18 13-25-34 PST Sergei Izmailov so the file is empty 2020-01-19 10-01-04 PST Sergei Izmailov All three are same within error, right? 2020-01-26 09-02-11 PST Sergei Izmailov It distorts all the way 2020-01-18 14-28-15 PST Adam Belis i will try to chage slashes 2020-01-18 13-08-14 PST Adam Belis ok this stil did not work 2020-01-18 08-50-00 PST Adam Belis what do you mean under actions and verbs 2020-01-19 08-16-25 PST Adam Belis i addet this from datetime import datetime and than i tried to add it to the file name but it does not work but i can print it in txt no problem 2020-01-26 11-36-51 PST Adam Belis he saied the problem was always there 2020-01-18 14-13-04 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:13 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/6gqWfMtZMCoaJ24u6/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 08-48-40 PST Adam Belis and i just did scren recoriding and than checked it in cuting softver how long it took 2020-01-18 14-13-57 PST Adam Belis yes that was my istake 2020-01-18 13-43-43 PST Adam Belis nope 2020-01-18 14-27-31 PST Adam Belis i dont understnad what it cannot find 2020-01-18 14-13-51 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:13 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/Rn9BAHyTTXgQaSAD7/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-32-10 PST Adam Belis green 2020-01-18 12-51-43 PST Adam Belis thenks i replaced it 2020-01-18 13-06-15 PST Adam Belis aaaaaaaaaaaah ima idiot 2020-01-18 14-07-25 PST Adam Belis so i should do it other way around 2020-01-18 13-44-02 PST Adam Belis v 2020-01-19 08-23-46 PST Adam Belis it dont want to run if i do this 2020-01-18 13-48-18 PST Adam Belis its jusa say i have wrong verion of pyton for my pc 2020-01-18 13-36-51 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:36 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/fBiBvsmn9DwR2T8kL/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-57-46 PST Adam Belis aaand we have a new error 2020-01-18 08-50-58 PST Adam Belis but agree that would be better test BUT there is also possibility that maybe ther is som bechmarking already in ink but i dont know about it 2020-01-18 13-54-56 PST Adam Belis sohow 2020-01-18 14-15-57 PST Adam Belis sorry stil didn learn marking 2020-01-18 14-04-10 PST Adam Belis as i send you 2020-01-18 14-34-10 PST Adam Belis :D 2020-01-26 09-00-05 PST Adam Belis yop its broken in all builds 2020-01-26 09-40-37 PST Adam Belis :D 2020-01-18 14-30-10 PST Adam Belis zoom 2020-01-18 13-43-39 PST Adam Belis actualty for sure most of ppl say its easy 2020-01-26 09-37-05 PST Adam Belis go ahead :D 2020-01-19 10-01-55 PST Adam Belis so i think its ok to try to merg this to master 2020-01-18 14-05-42 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 13-39-50 PST Adam Belis it gives mi that blu error 2020-01-18 14-11-23 PST Adam Belis prints ? 2020-01-26 08-52-13 PST Adam Belis yop 2020-01-26 11-34-43 PST Adam Belis hmmm thats too bad 2020-01-18 15-39-59 PST Adam Belis also i should try to side load linux to text performece on inux maybe my pc is just busted :D 2020-01-18 14-29-43 PST Adam Belis i dont think so 2020-01-18 08-56-40 PST Adam Belis there are outo builds here 2020-01-18 14-23-28 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-18 08-52-52 PST Adam Belis but i can kind a read it 2020-01-18 12-48-17 PST Adam Belis ok noob question how do i run it ? :D 2020-01-18 13-24-52 PST Adam Belis yes i think i run but i dont tnik it could open verisons of ink 2020-01-18 13-43-47 PST Adam Belis not even form that place 2020-01-18 13-10-06 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:10 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/DEvmdTeLXjzxRpyLm/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-24-12 PST Adam Belis we are moving but stil go empty exe 2020-01-26 09-04-58 PST Adam Belis yes thats also new problem :D 2020-01-18 13-33-59 PST Adam Belis i think 2020-01-18 14-22-51 PST Adam Belis nope it did not 2020-01-18 14-14-27 PST Adam Belis dont know 2020-01-18 13-05-31 PST Adam Belis d "C:\path\to\bench" is this path sous to be to one sesific build ? 2020-01-18 13-37-11 PST Adam Belis wel that time when i had wrong paths for ink 2020-01-26 09-42-34 PST Adam Belis oh yes . k now its not that hard i am just dont care about that that much 2020-01-18 08-58-38 PST Adam Belis np 2020-01-26 11-35-04 PST Adam Belis i can just test 2020-01-18 13-39-54 PST Adam Belis one sec 2020-01-18 13-21-41 PST Adam Belis last part of what ? 2020-01-26 08-51-23 PST Adam Belis wait 2020-01-18 12-55-39 PST Adam Belis ok and py should be in that folder where is inkscape right ? 2020-01-18 13-33-48 PST Adam Belis hmmm maybe coz i added 0.94 2020-03-02 02-23-43 PST Adam Belis dont worry about it i am glad that you wroth me ... but in last few days my computer is broken and im woring on fixing on it 2020-01-18 08-48-06 PST Adam Belis i dont know if this does even test what it sous to do 2020-01-18 13-44-01 PST Adam Belis i am ging to dowlad diffrent 2020-01-18 14-04-16 PST Adam Belis it creates txt 2020-01-18 13-39-39 PST Adam Belis iam goign to restar pc 2020-01-18 08-52-31 PST Adam Belis not that much but i used it few times 2020-01-18 13-52-07 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:52 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/vbSgDpdaXc8krCSqm/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-15-24 PST Adam Belis ```#!/usr/bin/python3 import subprocess import shutil, os from timeit import default_timer as timer def measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, verbs): temp_svg = "temp.svg" shutil.copyfile(input_svg, temp_svg) cmd = ([inkscape_executable, f"--verb={';'.join(verbs)}", temp_svg]) # print(" ".join(cmd)) t1 = timer() subprocess.call(cmd, stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL) t2 = timer() os.remove(temp_svg) # comment out this line to check results of inkscape invocation return t2 - t1 def inkscape_version(inkscape_executable): output = subprocess.check_output([ inkscape_executable, "--version" ], stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL).decode('utf-8') for line in output.split('\n'): if "Inkscape" in line: return line return "Unknown" def measure_object_to_path(inkscape_executable, input_svg): action_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] base_line_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] # cold run to minimize measurement errors measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) # actual measurements baseline = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) payload = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, action_verbs) return payload - baseline if __name__ == "__main__": inkscape_executables = [ r"C:\Users\Adam\Downloads\inkscape-1.1-dev_2020-01-17_abe53df-x64\inkscape\bin\inkcape.exe", # "C:/Users/Adam/Downloads/inkscape-1.1-dev_2020-01-17_abe53df-x64 - 1/inkscape/bin/inkcape.exe", #r"C:\Users\Adam\Downloads\inkscape-0.92.4_2020-01-12_3ab3b9f-x64\inkscape\ink…" ] test_file = "100-spirals.svg" with open("results.txt", "w") as results: for exe in inkscape_executables: version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) for exe in inkscape_executables: print(os.path.abspath(os.curdir)) print(exe) version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s", file=results) 2020-01-18 14-20-33 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-19 08-15-29 PST Adam Belis can i annoy you lite bit ? i am tring to add curretn date adn time to name of the file (so it does not get overwrite every time you run it ) but cannot find out correct way to add it ``` #!/usr/bin/python3 import subprocess import shutil, os from datetime import datetime from timeit import default_timer as timer def measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, verbs): temp_svg = "temp.svg" shutil.copyfile(input_svg, temp_svg) cmd = ([inkscape_executable, f"--verb={';'.join(verbs)}", temp_svg]) # print(" ".join(cmd)) t1 = timer() subprocess.call(cmd, stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL, stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL) t2 = timer() os.remove(temp_svg) # comment out this line to check results of inkscape invocation return t2 - t1 def inkscape_version(inkscape_executable): output = subprocess.check_output([ inkscape_executable, "--version" ], stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL).decode('utf-8') for line in output.split('\n'): if "Inkscape" in line: return line return "Unknown" def measure_object_to_path(inkscape_executable, input_svg): action_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'ObjectToPath', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] base_line_verbs = ['EditSelectAll', 'FileSave', 'FileQuit'] # cold run to minimize measurement errors measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) # actual measurements baseline = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, base_line_verbs) payload = measure(inkscape_executable, input_svg, action_verbs) return payload - baseline def if __name__ == "__main__": # Add paths for inscape builds you want to test inkscape_executables = [ r"D:\Downloads\inkscape-1.1-dev_2020-01-17_abe53df-x64\bin\inkscape.exe", r"D:\Downloads\inkscape-1.0beta2_2020-01-18_43f5480-x64\bin\inkscape.exe", #"./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] test_file = "100-spirals.svg" with open("results" + (datetime.now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S')) + ".txt", "w") as results: for exe in inkscape_executables: print(os.path.abspath(os.curdir)) print(exe) print(datetime.now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S')) version = inkscape_version(exe) elapsed_time = measure_object_to_path(exe, test_file) current_time = (datetime.now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S')) print(f"{version} {elapsed_time} s ", file=results) print(f"{current_time} ", file=results) ``` 2020-01-18 13-19-23 PST Adam Belis i feeel like an idiot 2020-01-18 13-20-52 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:20 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/iwtdmyxappWmx9gCw/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-38-34 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 13-19-12 PST Adam Belis why is this so complicated :D 2020-01-18 13-46-52 PST Adam Belis NOPE after reinstal of pyton ssam shit 2020-01-19 10-01-35 PST Adam Belis i round this few times its all same 2020-01-26 09-16-20 PST Adam Belis ok thanks ! 2020-01-18 14-33-33 PST Adam Belis how is that possible there is just one adam belis 2020-03-02 02-00-05 PST Adam Belis yes that would be awesome 2020-01-26 09-38-24 PST Adam Belis once again this tells me almost nothing but lets test it 2020-01-18 13-39-44 PST Adam Belis coz i cannot even run pyton now 2020-01-18 13-25-33 PST Adam Belis if __name__ == "__main__": inkscape_executables = [ "./Inkscape-031d86a-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-4cfd59b-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] 2020-01-18 14-27-16 PST Adam Belis ok i have idea 2020-01-18 13-04-46 PST Adam Belis i am missing something 2020-01-18 13-20-54 PST Adam Belis this 2020-01-18 14-31-02 PST Adam Belis i think 2020-01-18 14-15-08 PST Adam Belis :D it is 2020-01-19 08-33-58 PST Adam Belis :D sorry i know 2020-01-18 13-21-49 PST Adam Belis i should also include exe 2020-01-26 08-50-04 PST Adam Belis hmm thas not a good news boolian operations are quit bad right now 2020-01-18 14-04-06 PST Adam Belis i got same error 2020-01-18 13-09-04 PST Adam Belis 2. yes 2020-01-18 13-00-52 PST Adam Belis how do i know if it did run ? 2020-01-18 13-12-29 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:12 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/wrBxREw2TBnWDXDNF/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-09-00 PST Adam Belis 1. dont know what you are asking me 2020-01-18 13-43-23 PST Adam Belis maybe 2020-01-18 08-56-33 PST Adam Belis https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/history 2020-01-18 14-27-57 PST Adam Belis in that case that path is not correct 2020-01-26 09-38-55 PST Adam Belis thats what i would call easy fix 2020-01-18 13-47-20 PST Adam Belis maaan good old bat files :D 2020-01-18 14-25-57 PST Adam Belis contiue 2020-01-18 13-59-07 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:59 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/NtQpDPbe9oGhwgwxL/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-12-28 PST Adam Belis this 2020-01-18 08-47-51 PST Adam Belis my idea was to this svg select all spirals and convert it to paths 2020-01-18 14-04-18 PST Adam Belis ubt 2020-01-18 14-17-07 PST Adam Belis Nooo :D 2020-01-18 12-45-55 PST Adam Belis yets its readable 2020-01-18 15-42-42 PST Adam Belis i dont tnik ther is enough love wor win verison :D 2020-01-18 08-52-08 PST Adam Belis win 2020-01-26 08-52-57 PST Adam Belis any bool 2020-01-18 14-18-11 PST Adam Belis :D HELP i am useless 2020-03-02 01-59-52 PST Adam Belis i am chrome user 2020-01-18 14-34-45 PST Adam Belis haha i also need your id 2020-01-18 08-51-54 PST Adam Belis thanks i just took your idea and made it 100x100 harder :D 2020-01-18 13-50-11 PST Adam Belis but this is pyton 2.7 2020-01-18 13-11-12 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 12-48-00 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-18 13-00-22 PST Adam Belis i still cannot get it to run give me oooone second to trouble shoot it :D 2020-01-18 13-35-12 PST Adam Belis no that was not it 2020-01-18 12-48-50 PST Adam Belis i think i do on my second pc this is my tablet 2020-01-18 13-54-55 PST Adam Belis ok i fixed it 2020-01-18 13-26-29 PST Adam Belis dont worry we will get there one day 2020-01-26 09-40-35 PST Adam Belis i tried it few times and faild 2020-01-18 13-37-25 PST Adam Belis now it just refuse to run 2020-01-18 13-25-57 PST Adam Belis :D ok im ideiot volume 3 2020-01-18 13-33-57 PST Adam Belis that runs onley on 2.7 python 2020-01-18 08-50-18 PST Adam Belis and i am aslo noob i cannot du this simple scripting in ink 2020-01-18 13-35-28 PST Adam Belis wtf it run few mints ago :D 2020-01-18 14-25-52 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:25 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/QiXW2gHjJLoBM653P/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-32-39 PST Adam Belis the fuck it refuse to run now 2020-01-18 13-55-11 PST Adam Belis lets try this again 2020-01-18 12-43-34 PST Adam Belis or dropbox 2020-01-26 11-41-01 PST Adam Belis maybe try to gain som more inside from doc he can be more help then me 2020-01-18 14-32-53 PST Adam Belis or give me your user name :D 2020-01-18 14-30-07 PST Adam Belis we can call fb, skype , hang outs chose your poison 2020-01-19 08-28-00 PST Adam Belis i know it is om my potential to do list but i am learning to much stuff already 2020-01-18 14-07-31 PST Adam Belis sript to ink folder 2020-01-18 13-47-53 PST Adam Belis dont know i did nothing 2020-01-18 14-34-48 PST Adam Belis its down in corner 2020-01-18 13-19-06 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:19 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/XrFMoJBwrTivcQW44/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 13-43-09 PST Adam Belis no this did not helped 2020-01-18 12-47-57 PST Adam Belis to consol ? 2020-01-26 07-59-19 PST Adam Belis Hello was your hacky fixe merged in to master ? 2020-01-18 09-15-55 PST Adam Belis ok i scaled my test to 1000 spirals and my first findings wear correct your buid is 2x slower at this task 2020-01-26 11-36-35 PST Adam Belis maybe .. you saied that thats a problem 2020-01-18 13-23-49 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:23 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/DZinRbbGBDH4AR7Pr/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-23-17 PST Adam Belis just empty txt 2020-01-18 13-25-32 PST Adam Belis i should replace paths to this 2020-01-18 13-43-56 PST Adam Belis its saying its incomaptible 2020-01-18 14-24-37 PST Adam Belis nada 2020-01-18 13-53-46 PST Adam Belis witch files ? 2020-01-19 09-59-46 PST Adam Belis btw this are results on my main pc (i7-6800k 3.4ghz) Inkscape 1.1-dev (abe53df, 2020-01-17) 1.4908316999999993 s Inkscape 1.0beta2 (43f5480, 2020-01-18) 1.5817405999999998 s Inkscape 1.0beta2 (18c40e5, 2019-12-05) 1.4947684999999993 s 2020-01-18 13-24-15 PST Adam Belis txt 2020-01-18 13-50-16 PST Adam Belis do i want that 2020-01-18 13-49-27 PST Adam Belis instaler say amd that could be prolem this is intel 2020-01-18 13-25-35 PST Adam Belis ? 2020-01-18 14-32-41 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-18 14-06-30 PST Adam Belis just exe ? 2020-01-26 08-52-11 PST Adam Belis 1.1-dev (0217ea3, 2020-01-23) 2020-01-18 13-44-54 PST Adam Belis i dont know eater maybe i dowalded wrong pyton for diff procesor but in that cas it should say that from the first try 2020-01-26 09-04-21 PST Adam Belis well right now its pretty broken . i know shit about math that is happning under hood but it looks like 3 problems that happend at once. - your fix - doc fix of too many points - and docs fix infroduces new bug with cistorting shapes 2020-01-18 13-57-50 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:57 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/dyX6iXrHesCDRCyPQ/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-31-14 PST Adam Belis yes thats my user name on discort 2020-01-18 14-33-25 PST Adam Belis even pewdipai could not find it :D 2020-01-18 14-32-42 PST Adam Belis friends 2020-01-18 08-51-31 PST Adam Belis that could be use full to me 2020-01-26 11-37-06 PST Adam Belis but now it just uncoverd it 2020-01-18 09-39-32 PST Adam Belis your build 70 sec master 35 sec 2020-01-26 11-34-59 PST Adam Belis maybe doctor could point you to better direction 2020-01-18 13-25-08 PST Adam Belis you tell me 2020-01-26 08-50-15 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 26, 2020 5:50 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ZqAZTKoKXArignr9b/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-32-07 PST Adam Belis hahah add freind 2020-01-18 08-43-35 PST Adam Belis hello 2020-01-26 11-40-43 PST Adam Belis ok that would be awesome 2020-01-18 14-11-36 PST Adam Belis :D 2020-01-18 08-52-43 PST Adam Belis i am simple stupid designer :D 2020-01-18 14-21-29 PST Adam Belis hmmm same error 2020-01-18 14-30-36 PST Adam Belis i nver used discord for calling les try that 2020-01-18 13-09-39 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:09 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/jhzeAvQ5DXjmycvwr/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-34-19 PST Adam Belis musseg up 2020-01-18 13-54-12 PST Adam Belis oOOOOOOOOOOOOO 2020-01-18 12-43-27 PST Adam Belis you can zip it 2020-01-18 13-48-04 PST Adam Belis nope 2020-01-18 12-51-31 PST Adam Belis will this work for win ? 2020-01-18 13-17-06 PST Adam Belis cannot find thet folder 2020-01-18 14-17-01 PST Adam Belis \\\ \\\ 2020-01-18 14-15-34 PST Adam Belis this is my current py 2020-01-26 09-05-24 PST Adam Belis funny thing is that lpe boolioan use diffrent math (looks like) and works correctly 2020-01-18 14-08-21 PST Adam Belis that does not work i get same error 2020-01-18 14-30-58 PST Adam Belis adambelis 2020-01-18 14-33-41 PST Adam Belis same avatar as here 2020-01-18 14-32-19 PST Adam Belis in middel of the screen on home page 2020-01-18 14-32-29 PST Adam Belis on top 2020-01-19 08-34-52 PST Adam Belis that python could be useful to me because i could use it in 3D software like Houdini or cinema 4d 2020-01-18 12-51-32 PST Adam Belis inkscape_executables = [ "./Inkscape-031d86a-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-4cfd59b-x86_64.AppImage", "./Inkscape-43f5480-x86_64.AppImage" ] 2020-01-18 12-47-54 PST Adam Belis where does it print to ? 2020-01-18 15-22-11 PST Adam Belis thanks again for that banchmark i will try toput together issu with proposal for som kind ofo official banch mark test for performace 2020-01-18 13-25-06 PST Adam Belis dont know :D 2020-01-18 13-25-23 PST Adam Belis aaaaaaaaah 2020-01-26 09-15-11 PST Adam Belis ok i wrote him about it so you are 100 percent shure its not your code that case the problem ? 2020-01-18 08-54-28 PST Adam Belis thanks for solving 2020-01-18 12-48-34 PST Adam Belis i think result txt would be better for the record 2020-01-18 08-56-55 PST Adam Belis maybe there are also maybe some for linux 2020-01-18 15-40-52 PST Adam Belis but i dont think so actualy it can run blender or cinema 4d pretty resonably 2020-01-18 14-24-39 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:24 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/86KwEGqYn2wRBgWHm/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-05-06 PST Adam Belis should be copypasta 2020-01-18 13-38-11 PST Adam Belis thats what i am wondering 2020-01-18 08-58-08 PST Adam Belis this are win 2020-01-18 08-47-28 PST Adam Belis i dont tnik so but i could be wrong i am not a best person to ask about this kind of stuff i canoot even compile inkscape :D 2020-01-18 13-33-38 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 10:33 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/zGnHwXvHNZrELfKzk/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-18 14-34-09 PST Adam Belis intresing i fell like boomer 2020-01-18 14-05-41 PST Adam Belis which file it cannot find ? 2020-01-18 14-29-15 PST Adam Belis can we call here ? 2020-01-18 13-40-20 PST Adam Belis right this is my every expirienc wiith pyton ever i am alwes like wow this does not work :D 2020-01-18 12-48-52 PST Adam Belis one sec 2020-01-18 14-01-03 PST Adam Belis Clipboard - January 18, 2020 11:01 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/523iowHZyHpzmwQcr/Clipboard%20-%20Jan…) 2020-01-26 11-36-24 PST Adam Belis probably doctor sayed the same thing 2020-01-18 14-27-10 PST Adam Belis ok so your script does not work ? 2020-01-18 08-49-22 PST Adam Belis but i was tasting how this will influenc performance 2020-01-18 13-55-03 PST Adam Belis reinstal instal reinstal 2020-01-19 08-28-34 PST Adam Belis cout yes it could be usfull even for my 3d stuff a specali for houdiny 2020-01-18 13-51-30 PST Adam Belis do iwant amd or win 32 2020-01-18 14-25-30 PST Adam Belis it does not tocntie 2020-01-19 08-26-02 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-26 08-51-20 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 14-11-35 PST Adam Belis oh 2020-01-18 13-54-27 PST Adam Belis dont know 2020-01-18 08-58-05 PST Adam Belis https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/builds/30203579/job/n52kw… 2020-01-19 08-37-48 PST Adam Belis :D thanks but moments (tha this code jus dont want to run) like this reminds me why i am i visual artist and not a developer 2020-01-18 12-57-04 PST Adam Belis ah that make more sace 2020-01-18 13-32-46 PST Adam Belis say i have vrong verison 2020-01-19 10-01-22 PST Adam Belis yes 2020-01-18 13-54-23 PST Adam Belis good question 2020-01-18 14-06-47 PST Adam Belis i know :D 2020-01-18 08-58-20 PST Adam Belis cool 2020-01-26 11-35-53 PST Adam Belis just theoreticly if nodes would have that atribute would that fix it ? 2020-01-26 08-54-57 PST Adam Belis but if you can pleas test it yourself if you see same 2020-01-18 12-49-12 PST Adam Belis i think i do 2020-01-18 14-32-49 PST Adam Belis and after that 2020-01-18 13-52-09 PST Adam Belis yop 2020-01-18 13-25-50 PST Adam Belis with my builds 2020-01-18 13-20-25 PST Adam Belis no i think this is how it sous to be don i think i don this befor 2020-01-26 09-07-42 PST Adam Belis hmmm if you have time and energy try to get in contac with @doctormo and try to make a plan how to fix (or revert or dont know ) 2020-01-18 13-37-20 PST Adam Belis it created emty txt 2020-01-18 14-21-14 PST Adam Belis no no i got it 2020-01-18 13-25-03 PST Adam Belis if it didnt run it would not crate txt 2020-01-26 08-53-13 PST Adam Belis ok give me one sec i will try that spasific build 2020-01-18 14-26-51 PST Adam Belis could this be pyton glitch / wrong pyton instaled ? 2020-01-18 14-14-54 PST Adam Belis yop 2020-01-18 13-39-30 PST Adam Belis ok i just tested if that helps 2020-01-18 08-46-40 PST Adam Belis benchmarksvg.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/AYNLFshaDuydi9oSJ/benchmarksvg.svg) 2020-01-18 14-19-43 PST Adam Belis firs what ? 2020-01-26 08-51-40 PST Adam Belis let me test it one more tim to be sure im looking at correct build 2020-01-18 08-52-34 PST Adam Belis NOPE :D 2020-01-18 13-59-11 PST Adam Belis is this correct syntax ? 2020-01-18 13-54-18 PST Adam Belis :D 2020-01-18 14-33-56 PST Adam Belis adambelis#3440

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2020-02-26 12-40-31 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi Yes, I am familiar with it 2020-02-26 12-44-50 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi I am familiar with selectors and css dialogs but not have much idea about improving it. Sorry for what i said earlier. 2020-02-26 12-31-24 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi Hi, This is Ayush, a college student. I am interested in contributing to project "Enhance CSS Support". Not able to find related documentation. 2020-02-26 12-36-57 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi Yes, I am a gsoc aspirant. 2020-02-26 12-36-05 PST Ayush Krishna Murthi I have been contributing to one of my college community as a web developer and have also done a small contribution to Inkscape-website. I am familiar with CSS, Django, Java and C++. Any suggestion about required technology that can be useful in contribution will be helpful. 2020-02-26 12-38-04 PST Tavmjong Bah Have you tried out the Selectors and CSS dialog in master? I'm sure as a web developer you will have some ideas on how to improve it. 2020-02-26 12-41-18 PST Tavmjong Bah I would start my making a review of the dialog and then proposing a set of improvements that could be made to it. 2020-02-26 12-36-14 PST Tavmjong Bah Your referring to P1 at https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code ?

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29 Apr '21

2020-09-06 04-24-15 PDT Martin Owens Thanks Tav! Amazing GSoC and a strong performance from yourself and the other mentors this year. 2020-05-15 14-37-24 PDT Martin Owens GDI, the meeting was today? 2021-01-06 18-14-30 PST Martin Owens @speleo3 I see this as a very tiny patch, possibly misguided, but perhaps they can be asked to work on another bug if they are trying to get patches in for GSoC 2020-05-15 14-37-40 PDT Martin Owens Oh right the email Mc sent round. Sorry all. 2020-05-15 08-54-26 PDT Mc Thank you all for coming ! Sorry Jabiert that you could not talk :( 2020-07-29 09-49-05 PDT Mc yes 2020-06-30 12-52-18 PDT Mc * it would be preferable, yes, if several mentors have been following up with the projects * only one eval per student can be posted, so I think it would be best that the "primary" mentor of students post theirs, after discussing it with the others * I think it's fine to wait for thursday evening 2020-08-31 07-55-24 PDT Mc @all https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/mar-yyy-2z2 as usual 2020-07-30 09-03-43 PDT Mc @jabiertxof @speleo3 https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/mar-yyy-2z2 2020-05-15 07-59-59 PDT Mc https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/mar-yyy-2z2 2020-07-29 07-46-58 PDT Mc @Tav @speleo3 @ede123 is tomorrow tentatively 18hCEST (16hUTC) ok to meet with moazin & linkmauve ? 2020-07-30 16-12-08 PDT Mc only moazin to do, tweenk emailed that he would do it soon 2020-05-15 09-08-32 PDT Jabier Arraiza and I loosse most of the discussion in the process 2020-05-15 09-08-09 PDT Jabier Arraiza I coulsd talk finaly using my mobile phone browser but is hard to me undertand speak and hardest speak 2020-07-31 04-27-44 PDT Jabier Arraiza sorry finaly cant attend 2020-05-15 08-00-25 PDT Jabier Arraiza thanks 2020-05-15 07-59-05 PDT Jabier Arraiza whats the BlueBuitton link, couldent search 2020-07-29 14-25-49 PDT Jabier Arraiza I try to attend 2020-05-15 08-00-41 PDT Jabier Arraiza I just see land in other mail 2020-09-06 18-12-08 PDT Jabier Arraiza Thanks all!!! 2020-07-29 07-47-54 PDT Tavmjong Bah Yes 2020-07-30 23-41-28 PDT Tavmjong Bah Thanks all! 2020-07-02 09-38-14 PDT Tavmjong Bah It was great to see all the progress today! @Mc Thanks for organizing this. 2020-07-01 05-07-46 PDT Tavmjong Bah Don't know why I didn't see this before... 2020-09-06 04-17-39 PDT Tavmjong Bah Thanks all for a great GSoC! (And getting the evaluations all done on time!) 2020-09-05 23-02-57 PDT Tavmjong Bah I don't think it matters significantly if the student didn't complete the project. It happens all the time. 2020-07-30 12-34-59 PDT Tavmjong Bah 4 student evaluations of mentors done. 2 mentor evaluations of students done. Don't make me nervous! 2020-07-29 08-15-13 PDT Thomas Holder yes 2021-01-06 15-02-54 PST Thomas Holder I'm having a deja-vu :-( IMHO Adrian's motivation to commit a patch is wrong, and his patch is pointless. This is discouraging. 2021-01-06 15-01-04 PST Thomas Holder https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/2655#note_479863443 2020-07-30 23-36-11 PDT Thomas Holder all done 2020-09-05 17-56-51 PDT Patrick Specifically I'm looking at Abhay's project, that is not "complete" given his initial goals (e.g. macro functionality mostly missing), but at the same time I never really expected him to complete all of it on time and had more realistic "internal" goals for his project in mind that he mostly matched (a mostly working command palette). 2020-07-01 05-00-42 PDT Patrick Thanks Marc, so basically "apply common sense", no particular project-specific conventions AFAIU. 2020-07-01 05-03-46 PDT Patrick As for Abhay I could do the evaluation in principle; @speleo3 and @jabiertxof are co-mentoring; Tav helped a lot as well. 2020-07-01 05-05-42 PDT Patrick Some guidance would be helpful to know how strictly we're supposed to grade, however I'm used to grade students, so I'd be able to figure something out either way. 2020-09-05 17-53-09 PDT Patrick Hi @all, can somebody comment on the significance of the question "Did ${student} complete the project?" in the final evaluation? If we answer this with "no", do we risk any drawbacks for the student or us as a project, or is it fine to answer "no" if the project is still ongoing at this time? 2020-07-01 05-01-21 PDT Patrick (pinging @Tav as I'm not sure he saw this message considering the mail he sent) 2020-05-15 09-06-33 PDT Patrick I've finally figured out how to use my webcam. Maybe you can see me next time. ;-) 2020-06-30 12-25-17 PDT Patrick Hi all, considering first eval's up, can some of the experienced mentors comment on how those are typically handled in the project? Any pointers are welcome! Some specific questions I have: * Do we discuss evaluations as a group / within the group of mentors for the specific student / (not at all)? * Related to that, who's expected to submit the evaluation (and when)? (I think we've appointed some "primary" mentors internally, but as far as Google is concerned it seems all of the mentors are equal and even org admins could do the evaluation) * We have a meeting scheduled on Thursday. Is it fine (or even advisable) to hold off with the evaluation until then, or should we evaluate as early as possible? 2020-07-29 08-31-58 PDT Patrick I won't be available tomorrow, sorry. 2020-07-29 08-32-31 PDT Patrick Did you make contact with linkmauve? 2020-05-15 07-28-26 PDT Mc User Tweenk added by Mc. 2021-02-06 16-35-47 PST Martin Owens Has left the channel.

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