2019-05-12 14-31-25 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Also good, in turkish? |
2019-05-15 14-39-06 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Upload to inkscape.org as special gallery file for download. Ask readers to use it for consistent translation. |
2019-05-12 14-19-08 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | How long have you been waiting? |
2019-05-15 14-34-23 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | How you make book for sell? |
2019-05-15 16-40-36 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | I am back. |
2019-05-15 14-35-41 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | So which operating system will you focus on? |
2019-05-15 14-31-13 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Firstly, decide if the release is divergent (too much etc) if it is too much different, you can build special versions with your translations without any changes. |
2019-05-15 14-37-23 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | This is easy, you could ship just po file to readers 😅 they can install in Linux easy. |
2019-03-25 04-35-26 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Hello |
2019-02-17 10-42-54 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Ah this is a good bug, can you report this to https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues ? |
2019-05-15 15-08-49 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | OK. Riding my bike, will come back in two hours. |
2019-05-15 14-15-51 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Has there been a problem? You are the only person who can delete a merge request for your own branch. |
2019-02-17 11-21-22 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | No, you can handle that yourself, the fuzzy matching will likely handle your translations correclty when merged. |
2019-05-15 14-17-11 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | I'm not on my computer right now. |
2019-02-14 11-55-57 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | We should talk more in the #team_translation channel so everyone can read. |
2019-05-15 14-27-14 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | No, so long as problem is technical and not personal. No problem to see chat. |
2019-02-14 11-54-46 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Welcome to the rocket chat for Inkscape |
2019-02-17 10-44-20 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Would you like some help? CR made a really cool video |
2019-05-15 14-39-43 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | I make assumption that consistent is the problem? |
2019-05-15 14-23-40 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Maren did want or did not want? |
2019-03-25 04-39-22 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | :shaved_ice: |
2019-03-25 04-37-47 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | And getting into the Inkscape community, hope all is warm and welcoming. |
2019-02-17 11-20-20 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Thanks levent! |
2019-05-12 14-17-20 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Did you talk with @Moini ? |
2019-05-12 14-19-49 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Ok, so as long as the mention is blue like above, then you can wait 2 days to give her a chance to catch up. |
2019-05-12 14-28-37 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | yes |
2019-05-12 14-17-05 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | If you want to commit manually, you can add to inkscape codebase via gitlab. |
2019-03-25 04-37-03 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | NP, hope all is going well. |
2019-05-15 14-38-01 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Which, the ship or the install? |
2019-02-17 10-44-46 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | https://inkscape.org/news/2019/02/02/step-step-video-launched-how-report-issue-inkscape/ |
2019-05-15 16-42-13 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | So, the job of master of Turkish would be: 1. translate inkscape into turkish, 2. Update new strings 3. Review turkish strings from other people. No other jobs. |
2019-02-17 11-31-14 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Well done! it's a long job! |
2019-05-15 14-25-41 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Has she offended you greatly? |
2019-02-17 11-23-30 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Yes, gettext software has tools for updating translations. |
2019-03-25 04-35-48 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Please don't, it is a spammer |
2019-05-12 14-33-31 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | It will be gloriously unique! |
2019-05-12 14-23-40 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Well done on the completion. |
2019-05-12 14-18-03 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | She is the translators manager, I think you can message her here on chat (in the translators chat room) |
2019-03-25 04-35-54 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | I have reported it to the manager |
2019-05-12 14-25-46 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Love it! |
2019-05-12 14-13-37 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Yes. hello! How are you? |
2019-05-12 14-18-46 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | If you're patient and note her directly, she'll get back to you. She's in Germany. |
2019-02-14 11-55-43 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | A few days ago there was another Turkish person who was asking about translations. |
2019-05-12 14-28-39 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Lots to do |
2019-05-12 14-14-20 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Enjoying a relaxing weekend. |
2019-02-17 10-39-36 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | hi |
2019-02-14 11-54-39 PST | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Hello! |
2019-03-25 04-39-14 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | :-) |
2019-05-15 14-28-49 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | I see. Did you know, you could release Turkish version of inkscape with your book? |
2019-05-15 14-47-18 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Be the master |
2019-05-15 14-44-14 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | I see. And you do not want to be in charge of Turkish translation because it is too much work for you? |
2019-05-15 14-21-22 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | We are worried about you. What has happened? |
2019-05-15 14-16-25 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | I don't know, I've never had to do it. |
2019-05-15 15-04-52 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Master in inkscape, not diy. Is option of many option. |
2019-05-15 14-51-01 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | master of translation in Turkish only. |
2019-05-12 14-14-27 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | That's great! |
2019-05-15 14-33-35 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | No, that will always be consensus version. But you have freedom to have levent version if you need to sell special inkscape alongside your book. It is legal. |
2019-05-12 14-20-49 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | I think so yes. Although I don't know it. |
2019-05-15 14-25-26 PDT | Martin Owens <doctormo@geek-2.com> | Oh, before you do that. You can talk to me. There is no one person or one set way to contribute. |
2019-03-25 04-37-28 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | about translatin? |
2019-05-12 14-31-49 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | most probably i will release my book after Inkscape's 1.0 release |
2019-03-25 04-38-01 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | now i am checking minor errors in my translates |
2019-05-15 14-16-45 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i am trying now. can you see my request? |
2019-05-15 14-43-00 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i don't know how to make it all those what you said to me. i don't know how to pack inkscape with my translation etc.. |
2019-05-15 14-17-56 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/669 |
2019-03-25 04-35-43 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | do you know her |
2019-05-15 14-28-10 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | here is the conversation |
2019-05-15 14-23-17 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | Maren want to work with Turkish translation team and i haven't time for team work. i quitting |
2019-03-25 04-36-27 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | thank you :) |
2019-05-15 14-34-42 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i thought |
2019-02-17 11-22-15 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | so, software will do that automatic, isn't it? i am keeping continue my translation |
2019-05-12 14-32-15 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | there is no any book in Turkish about Inkscape |
2019-05-12 14-15-30 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | how can i make it? |
2019-05-12 14-35-12 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | hmmm... they done %65 but mine is %98 heheh |
2019-05-12 14-17-26 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | how can i? i've never done that before |
2019-05-12 14-17-37 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | no, i didn't talk with Moini |
2019-05-15 14-16-56 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | on gitlab? |
2019-05-12 14-31-13 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | and my book is on the way also |
2019-05-15 15-06-10 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | my... i still didn't watch GoT's last episode |
2019-05-15 14-29-54 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | how |
2019-05-15 14-11-25 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | Hello Martin. are you there? |
2019-02-17 11-24-58 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | hmmm okay. i'm translating with looking Inkscape inside. i can report if i find something like that more |
2019-02-17 10-40-18 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i think i found a minor error on inkscape during translation |
2019-05-12 14-18-55 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i see. okay, i already mentioned her name on transtlator's chat room |
2019-05-12 14-47-22 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i just opened a fork and requested merge. i will wait for Moini also |
2019-05-12 14-31-56 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | yes, it's in Turkish |
2019-05-15 14-37-20 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | Marc Jeanmougin just blocked my delete request. can you tell him to apply my delete request? |
2019-05-15 14-24-31 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | Maren want to work with a group. i am not a group and i don't want to be group. i am going to delete my tutorial book also |
2019-05-15 14-46-48 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i don't understand. what kind of charge? |
2019-05-12 14-26-38 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | me too. 1.0 version still under construction? |
2019-05-12 14-17-47 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | and Moini isn't online now |
2019-05-15 14-32-23 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | it will primary release of the inkscape.org? |
2019-03-25 04-36-22 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | okay |
2019-05-15 14-12-06 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | can you delete my Turkish translation on gitlab? thank you |
2019-02-17 10-41-39 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | open inkscape, press ctrl+shift+D and click "Grids" tab. Add a new Axonometric grid. there is three checking boxes: Enable, Visible and Snap to visible grids only. those three checking box's descriptions are displaced eachother when your mouse cursor on this three checkbox |
2019-03-25 04-37-35 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | Moini helped me alot |
2019-05-12 14-21-21 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | hmmm.. okay, i think i need to wait for her |
2019-03-25 04-36-05 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | yes, i didn't send any email to it |
2019-02-14 11-55-57 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | bring* |
2019-05-15 14-34-38 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i will put it on googleplay |
2019-02-17 10-39-43 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | how are you? |
2019-05-15 14-48-48 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | being master? could be alot of work. i only wanted to be translator, that's all. |
2019-02-17 11-20-49 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | My .po file has that same bug too? Should i report that if i going to finish the translation? |
2019-05-12 14-33-43 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | yes in Turkey! |
2019-02-17 10-43-48 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | ummm... i dunno how to use gitlab |
2019-02-17 11-33-15 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | thanks. it's okay, i'm doing my best. |
2019-05-15 14-24-34 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | she knows |
2019-02-14 11-41-34 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | by the way; Inkscape software translated last time in 2003 and i can translate software's new version |
2019-05-12 14-31-02 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | love it. updates will keep Inscape modern always. |
2019-05-12 14-14-30 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | sounds awesome :smile: |
2019-05-15 14-38-18 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | what is the ship? |
2019-05-15 14-35-55 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | linux |
2019-05-15 14-18-49 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | it was good to know you Martin. take care. see you. |
2019-05-12 14-14-17 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i just done with .po file. and it's almost flawless job. |
2019-05-15 15-05-44 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | can you show me an example? |
2019-02-14 11-55-50 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | well, what my project ring in your mind? |
2019-03-25 04-35-14 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | Hello Martin, how are you? |
2019-05-15 14-17-55 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | okay, i will be happy when you accept to delete and reput this guy's translation back |
2019-02-14 11-20-26 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | Hello Martin. I am the guy who want to create a Turkish tutorial book. I get your email. We haven't any Turkish tutorial book of Inkscape. That's reason very few people knows Inkscape software in Turkey. How can i get some help from you. Ps: i want to sell that book internet wide. |
2019-05-12 14-25-04 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i've worked on it for a nice job and i will keep to watch my translation if there is any change or addition. i will support always about it |
2019-05-15 14-26-27 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | no, she didn't offended me. would you see our conversation? |
2019-05-15 14-27-04 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | levent 11:51 PM
so, here, in Turkey, we're dealing with a kind of tiran. maybe you've heard of his name before or meybe you don't. but our president's minority to us alot. he has alot of partisan to grab all works and leave us (dissident peopple) nothing. you know; i graduated from university as an art teacher on 2014 and i still searching for job (especially out of Turkey). now i'm trying to do something myself. about trying to create y own job, write a book for earn money etc.. and i want to do that jobs almost flawless for don't get reject by anyone. i don't know that group who are they. maybe they are partisan of our tiran or maybe they are opposit of him. but if you make me work with them, they will ruin my translation and it will meaning ruining my book.
Moini 11:52 PM
Mmh, that's a difficult situation that you are describing.
levent 11:53 PM
i am unemployed art teacher.
so, i want to know my place for your eyes. give a decide. would you work with me? or would you work with that group?
Moini 11:53 PM
How would saying hi and inviting a Ubuntu user group to the translators chat to coordinate translations better ruin your book?
levent 11:54 PM
sayin hi to 38 people and manage all of them? have you ever read their names how much are they?
Moini 11:55 PM
I wouldn't expect everyone to actually join.
If it's one or two, that would be a large number already.
levent 11:55 PM
and managing them is meaning extra time losing for me. what about for my book?
Moini 11:56 PM
Why do you think you'd have to manage them?
levent 11:56 PM
i don't want to waste my time for manage them.
Moini 11:56 PM
Will the book be finished before a release?
levent 11:57 PM
yes
i am on 4th stage of my book
Moini 11:57 PM
Ah, so you are afraid that strings change after you wrote the book.
levent 11:57 PM
yeah
Moini 11:57 PM
This is difficult for me to write, but it is normal for this to happen.
The original strings will probably also change still.
levent 11:58 PM
i am afraid that also i am translate something in it and put that screen in my book and someone going to change it
Moini 11:58 PM
We have not called for translators yet.
Which we do when the strings are stable.
And will not change anymore.
You cannot rely on them staying the same yet
It's too early.
levent 12:00 AM
i don't want to waste my time Maren. my time already wasted with that tiran. so, now you have two selection. chose mei or chose them. i can't work with them
Moini 12:00 AM
I'm not going to choose.
I would like to have a healthy team.
This is an open source project, and as such, everyone can contribute.
I don't speak Turkish.
I understand that this is causing work for your book, but this is something that cannot be changed.
You are not required to work with them.
But it may happen that other people come and improve your translation.
This is how development works.
It's not released yet, there is no way to rely on strings staying stable until the release.
levent 12:04 AM
so, do you want a team?
Moini 12:04 AM
Yes. That is what I want, but it might not be what I get.
And that's okay. Nobody here has the power to tell anyone else what to do.
We can only suggest.
But never expect to get what we want.
levent 12:05 AM
okay. then delete my translation folder and reput their translation. because i am not available for team work. and i am going to delete my book. see ya.
Moini 12:06 AM
Maybe you will want to rethink this, we'll be here if you change your mind. Take good care, and I hope things will turn out well for you.
(you will have to make a merge request for the change you want, because I am not an Inkscape developer, just administrator of the website translators) |
2019-05-15 14-16-08 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | how can i do that? |
2019-05-15 15-09-48 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | ok |
2019-02-17 11-27-12 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | by the way; the first a thousand lines are done. |
2019-05-12 14-39-02 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | and they didn't translated long English strings. okay, full file on the way |
2019-05-12 14-20-28 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | heheh okay, if i going to make it fork and give message to replace it, |
2019-02-17 11-21-13 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | you're welcome! |
2019-02-14 11-56-18 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | okay friend, let's talk on there |
2019-03-25 04-38-26 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | here is awesome :) |
2019-02-14 11-55-00 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | yay! you're here |
2019-05-12 14-03-35 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | Hello Martin! are you there? |
2019-05-12 14-34-19 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | oh.. is someone worked Turkish translation file? let me look it up |
2019-05-15 14-53-08 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | didn't understand again. Martin, i've never repack any of software in my life. and i don't know how to do. so, it won't work for me |
2019-05-15 14-34-05 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i really don't know how to do Martin |
2019-05-12 14-13-55 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i'm fine, thank you Martin, and you? |
2019-05-12 14-15-26 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | now i want to put it there |
2019-02-17 11-06-46 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i think i just done it:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/138 |
2019-02-17 10-39-26 PST | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | hey Martin! |
2019-05-12 14-20-35 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | that would work? |
2019-03-25 04-35-39 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | i got a message from natash223 user. she want me send an email to her |
2019-05-12 14-19-18 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | about 15 minutes |
2019-05-12 14-33-09 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | it will be abit fat book heheh |
2019-05-12 14-15-17 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | so, last 100 strings are can't translatable to Turkish language |
2019-05-15 14-37-42 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | how |
2019-05-12 14-14-54 PDT | Levent <mustafaleventfidanci@gmail.com> | yes. i've done 8399 strings of the 8499 |