2018-10-14 12-48-40 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Perfect
2018-09-23 05-36-29 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>My English is not good ;(
2018-09-23 04-34-04 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>In any case, I don't have any problem with nobody. My apologies if you felt wrong due to my responses.
2018-09-23 04-17-22 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Hello
2018-09-23 05-24-00 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Don't hesitate it
2018-09-23 05-42-30 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>As I said, I will move forward the topic
2018-09-23 04-39-59 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>There are several levels of administration.
2018-09-23 04-27-10 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I would not take care about this subject for now. Thanks for your advice.
2018-09-23 05-02-23 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I totally agree with you
2018-09-23 05-03-40 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Thanks for you time. I will help you with this proposal chnage into the configuration
2020-09-06 23-31-55 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Really?
2018-09-23 04-46-11 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Changing the configuration?
2018-09-23 04-38-35 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I am not managing the service
2018-09-23 04-50-21 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I prefer to do not interfere on his work around the global configuration
2018-09-23 04-44-04 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>The service configuration is leading by other teammates
2020-09-07 12-10-45 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I'm seeing a lot of messages
2020-09-07 12-05-43 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>In summary: the service needs to be upgrade (asap) but we are waiting for Bryce Harrington
2020-09-07 12-25-27 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I was working a lot two weekends ago
2020-09-07 11-56-29 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I'm still waiting for a decision here https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43
2020-09-07 12-26-22 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I'm waiting for upgrading the service and this should addressed in a coordinated way.
2020-09-07 12-25-44 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>But I don't have permissions to perform a full backup first.
2018-09-23 05-42-07 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>;)
2018-09-23 05-23-42 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>@ede123 I have read all the conversation and I see the misunderstanding
2018-09-23 04-27-07 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Is this the problem?
2018-09-23 04-27-21 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>This was my last comment
2020-09-07 12-11-37 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43#note_400390936
2020-09-07 12-12-17 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43#note_400410896
2020-09-07 12-13-48 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>ups, it seems there is an issue or something related with the permissions
2020-09-07 12-10-04 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>ups
2020-09-07 12-10-37 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>the link is correct
2020-09-07 12-09-16 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Please read the comments
2020-09-07 12-04-03 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>No. Nobody performed any upgrade
2018-10-14 11-56-57 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>`ssh root@167.99.220.72`
2020-09-06 23-32-15 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>We should report it on gitlab
2020-09-07 12-04-33 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I never said that I was going to upgrade.
2018-09-23 04-34-12 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>But I don't understand it ;)
2018-09-23 04-51-19 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I don't have strong opinion
2018-09-23 04-42-25 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I recommended you to move the topic to the mailing list
2018-09-23 05-36-45 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>In fact, I collaborate with FOSS in order to improve my English
2018-09-23 04-48-54 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Yes, he is one of the leader
2018-09-23 04-33-01 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I don't know what you expected from my responses. They were very objective and technical. No subjective
2018-09-23 04-17-25 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>About what?
2018-09-23 05-23-55 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>I will move forward your request
2018-09-23 05-37-06 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Yes, I meant "do not doubt".
2018-09-23 04-38-51 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>The service configuration is being leaded by other teammates
2018-09-23 04-45-54 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>What do you expect from me?
2018-10-14 11-56-45 PDTManuel Recena <recena@gmail.com>Added
2018-09-23 04-35-18 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>What's objective and technical about "I would not take care about this subject for now."? What's the reason? Why not?
2020-09-07 11-58-35 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>The issue was only to collect evidence why the update did not work I think (I guess Maren was confused because you mentioned you'd attempt the update, but apparently we're still at the same version)
2020-09-07 03-18-58 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>If you find nothing suspicious let's hope nothing bad happened and maybe consider to update our RC instance if possible? (Not sure what happened last time you tried, I guess there were some roadblocks?)
2018-09-23 04-51-03 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>I'm happy to ask him again, though.
2018-09-23 04-36-11 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Do we want to annoy them?
2018-09-23 04-59-47 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>OK, let's leave it at that for the moment. One more thing (just to explain why I felt some dislike from you side, maybe I interpreted it wrong): For other issues you told me "to check for issues upstream". I totally agree that's usually the correct way. But in this case *you* set up the service, so as we're a team (I hope we are) you were my go-to person. You know rocket chat much better than me, so even if there are issues filed upstream you're more likely to find them and/or find a solution (i.e. it's more efficient). I totally respect that we're all doing this in our spare time, so I understand if you didn't feel like looking into these yourself, but it helps if you say so. Otherwise (if you just say "check upstream") it feels like you're unwilling to help which is not particularly helpful to achieve a welcoming environment for everybody and make people feel like they're on the same team.
2018-10-14 12-04-06 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Thanks! I'll let you know how it goes...
2018-09-23 04-39-27 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>By whom? I'll happily re-assign the bug then. (It says "Admin" behind your name, though, just saying... ;-) )
2020-09-07 12-12-09 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Huh! That's interesting... Seems I'm hitting a GitLab bug!
2020-09-07 11-57-46 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Decision?
2020-09-07 03-16-58 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Well, I have no idea what happened, so I'm unsure what to report. In the best case it was some user error / bug on my end, but in the worst case somebody was trying to inject their code into our instance.
2018-09-23 05-20-14 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Thanks. I already pinged Ryan (I re-used the issue), so if you should flick the switch in the meantime maybe just let him know.
2018-09-23 04-44-50 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>If I need to ask the mailing list because you're unable to tell me I'll do so, but your behavior right now is no acceptable in my opinion. It seems there are issues between us after all :-(
2018-09-23 04-42-47 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>It's not a topic for the mailing list but for whoever has admin access....
2020-09-07 12-14-27 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>The messages appear with the new link you posted... GitLab never ceases to amaze :-D
2020-09-07 12-18-29 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>OK, that clarifies a lot - I had already been wondering why there was no activity on that issue. :facepalm:
2018-09-23 05-40-28 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Cool! Don't worry about your English - it's perfectly fine and I can always ask when I have difficulty understanding a sentence. I guess you and Jabier would really get along well. ;-) He's from Spain, too, and also constantly worries people would not understand him.
2020-09-07 03-17-52 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>I have no proof either way, so maybe you can see some evidence in the logs or collect it in admin interface.
2020-09-07 12-13-20 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Clipboard - September 7, 2020 9:13 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/W72ThxKQ9uDQx6SJy/Clipboard%20-%20September%207,%202020%209:13%20PM)
2020-09-07 12-19-08 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Let's wait for Bryce's reply then...
2018-09-23 05-35-08 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>OK, great! I'm looking forward to the weblate implementation. I really like your work so far! (I mean it and I think it's a good time to point it out as sometimes it feels like people are complaining an awful lot, which might be natural as one is usually discussing issues and not the tings that *do* work. So - for all the times I forget to say it - great job!) > Don't hesitate it Did you mean "don't doubt it"? Seems the Spanish word for "hesitate" (dudar) is the same as for "doubt" whereas the meaning is quite different.
2018-09-23 04-28-09 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Don't understand me wrong, it's certainly not a huge issue, but it's an issue nonetheless
2020-09-07 12-09-04 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>What specifically do you need from Bryce (he's rather busy lately, but if we ask him for a specific task he might find the time to look into it or maybe we even can find someone else)?
2018-09-23 04-41-31 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Come on... we're constantly understaffed in the Inkscape project, so everybody with access to a service usually is "the one in charge". If you don't feel that way you should communicate that openly (e.g. on the mailing list) and make sure people know whom to ask for support. Otherwise it's becoming frustrating for everybody.
2020-09-06 14-41-21 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>This is an alert - We might have malware on our instance. I just wrote a message when the word " @ worm959" was inserted somewhere in the middle. (There's a chance I did saomething stupid on my end, but I'm not aware of anything, so we should triple-check)
2020-09-07 12-13-35 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Seems an issue in loading related branches makes it fail to load the page altogether!
2018-09-23 04-17-57 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Hi Manuel, I'm not sure if I'm misinterpreting the situation which is why I think we should talk before this becomes something more: - First of all it seems there's a certain unexplained tension between us. For every issue I mentioned to you so far you met me with varying levels of rejection. Why is that? Did I do anything to warrant such behavior? - Secondly closing https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/issues/13 off like that without giving any reason came across as incredibly rude. In the Inkscape community we don't close issues without reason. If it's a personal reason (e.g. you don't have the time or you don't think its relevant), then say so and unassign yourself from the bug (remember you specifically asked people to add you as an assignee if they had any issues with the new service, though!). However seeing as this is only flicking a switch I don't understand why there could be any difficulty with this (as I understand it I could do it myself in the web UI if I had the permissions). I feel that you owe me at least an explanation (possibly also an apology).
2018-09-23 04-36-05 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>For me it was annoying on the test instance during the hackfest as I did not have created an account yet. Users of this service will feel the same.
2018-10-14 09-02-13 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Hi Manuel, here's the public SSH key: ssh-rsa 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
2020-09-07 12-18-50 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Thanks for figuring that out with me!
2020-09-07 12-13-07 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>That's what I'm seeing when visiting the issue without anchor in the link:
2018-09-23 04-37-19 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>If not (which I assume goes without saying) we should address this "bug" and the resolution seems trivial unless I'm missing something. However you seem to be blocking it. Why?
2020-09-07 12-09-40 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Did you link the wrong issue? There are no comments...
2018-09-23 04-50-37 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>Just to be sure: Are you feeling uneasy setting configurations because you think it needs the "blessing" of the "leadership"? If so: Inkscape is lead by the community. There is no single "leader" for any service.
2020-09-07 12-08-00 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>OK, can you add that info to the issue? I don't think people are aware of that...
2018-09-23 04-48-13 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>I thought that was the obvious solution... If you don't want to be in charge of configuration (although I don't see how that can be clearly distinguished from setting up the service) then I need to know whom to aks to do just that. Is Ryan the person to ask?
2018-09-23 04-16-44 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>@recena Can we talk?
2018-09-23 04-27-48 PDTPatrick <eduard.braun2@gmx.de>That's the second part, yes.