2020-11-18 01-28-33 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Would an email to the list asking directly for help be useful? (You've hinted at it but it might be useful to be more explicit.)
2019-02-11 12-55-04 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Which things? I'm making lots of progress figuring out how to integrate Gio::Actions into Inkscape.
2019-09-13 09-21-28 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>What's the event?
2020-11-18 00-53-00 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>One could ask Mc.
2020-11-18 00-49-59 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>BTW, Cairo desparately needs a release!
2019-07-02 08-59-34 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Good ideas! Thanks for the info, I've got to take my girls to the dentist in a few minutes...
2019-09-13 09-19-10 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>We should let Mc know too.
2019-02-11 13-01-23 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>The more I work with Inkscape's code the messier I find it. Classes aren't clearly defined as to what they are suppose to do. Lots of unnecessary base classes (with only one derived class). Etc.
2020-11-18 01-29-18 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Mathias's email was pretty strong.
2019-09-18 05-47-30 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr> I assume we're still on for tonight. Do you have a phone number I can text you if necessary? I'll leave home around 5:30 after my wife gets back from work. My number is +33 7 67 75 19 60
2019-07-02 08-33-36 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Interesting. In your honest opinion, would I have much of a chance? (You can assume my Inkscape contributions are the main things I'vd done computer wise the past dozen years.)
2020-11-18 00-53-29 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Excellent!
2019-09-15 12-37-28 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Hi, Do you have a better idea of your schedule? I've Okayed Wednesday with my wife. I can either meet you in Paris at around 7PM (I can't leave before my wife gets home from work to watch our youngest) or you coud come out here anytime Wednesday afternoon/evening.
2019-09-13 09-11-07 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>I'll need to check with my wife, but I can probably come into Paris for dinner Wednesday or you might be able to come out here. It's about an hour train ride from the center of Paris with trains every 15 minutes. I was just going to ask where you'll be staying.
2019-07-02 08-22-22 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>It's in the link.
2019-09-16 01-31-08 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>I'll let Mc know.
2019-02-11 12-52-57 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Thanks
2020-11-18 01-21-00 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>The FreeDesktop git page list four owner: you, Carl Worth, Keith Packard, and Uil Schlachter. I think only Uli is actually actively still contributing. (last commits: Carl 2010, Keith 2011).
2019-07-14 05-28-01 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr> Hi, I've got the OSBAR (Open Source Business Award) trophy. I was told it should be sent to you. I just want to confirm that before I pack it. (I will mail it to you when I'm in the US).
2019-02-11 13-02-00 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Got an SVG Working Group meeting starting now.
2019-07-02 08-40-10 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Ah, no problem.
2020-11-18 01-03-27 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Who "owns" these libraries? I get a feeling that some of the reluctance to maintain things is a fear of treading on somebodies toes...
2019-07-10 02-11-21 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>(It's in Munich this year.)
2019-02-11 12-45-27 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>What is SFC IRC channel. I haven't heard back from them (emailed them last Wednesday at approvals@tex.sfconservancy.org).
2019-07-02 08-51-58 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>How could you see other interviewees taking the test with you?
2019-09-16 04-45-45 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Mc is fine to meeting at your hotel at 7pm.
2019-07-02 08-55-15 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>That does seem strange.
2020-11-18 01-26-00 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Seems unlikely Carl would be interested after a 10 year gap.
2020-11-18 00-56-56 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Yeah, he could be more communicative. But it would allow Inkscape to have a greater influence it its direction.
2019-02-11 13-00-32 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>I really like the GitHub bug tracker. I haven't been paying too much attention to the bug moving stuff. Mostly, responding to bugs that are pointed my way.
2019-07-02 08-29-32 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>What is the hiring procedure, on-line test followed by video interview?
2020-11-18 01-22-33 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>This is the email that we used for KK during GSoC:
2019-09-13 04-15-16 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Hi, what's your schedule going to be like while in Paris?
2020-11-18 01-31-08 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>BTW, isn't the font rendering in Cairo considered a "Toy API" so would it be worth removing it from testing? It seems to cause a lot of grief.
2018-12-06 10-56-44 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Sorry to hear about your mother. I'm sure that is a great loss for you and your family.
2019-07-10 08-07-48 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>OK. Only three people are eligible, you, Josh, and me (admin + mentor with student). Josh already said he couln't go. Mc is signed up as a mentor but without a student. So, I'll register to go.
2019-07-10 02-11-01 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Do you want to attend the GSoC mentor's summit? (Your listed as an admin so you are eligable.)
2019-07-02 03-46-55 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Hi Bryce, Ted pointed out a Canonical job he thought I might be interested in and said I should go through you if I decide to apply for it as you'll get a referal bonus (https://boards.greenhouse.io/canonical/jobs/1626364). It does look interesting, especially as it is a work from home position and now that my girls are older, I don't need to spend as much time watching them. As I've never worked for a software company, I have no clue as to how well I would fit in.
2019-06-06 14-46-17 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Board meeting tomorrow?
2019-07-02 08-25-50 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Ah, that's something I don't have.... I've been mostly using Red Hat/Fedora for 20+ years
2019-09-13 09-13-15 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Add about 20 minutes as your near the edge of Paris.
2019-07-02 08-28-05 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>They didn't offer you the job?
2019-09-13 09-24-15 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Mc says he's available Wednesday.
2020-11-18 00-49-36 PSTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>He attended several GSoC meetings.
2019-09-18 08-23-02 PDTTavmjong Bah <tavmjong@free.fr>Out the door, see you in about 90 some minutes....
2020-11-18 01-05-56 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>pixman is (in theory?) unmaintained, so in theory just needs a strong maintainer.
2019-09-13 09-35-13 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>the event is Canonical's bi-annual Engineering Sprint
2019-07-02 08-53-30 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>they had us all come to a google hangout together, where they explained the test process, the travel requirements, etc. then gave the link to the test, and we stayed online while taking it. You could do it anonymously, and didn't have to have your camera on, but a lot of people just did it with their own names and had the camera on. Of course I then looked up the other applicants on linked in...
2020-11-18 01-13-11 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>Cairo is a bit different. It mostly just needs someone with spare time.
2019-07-02 08-30-51 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>each team is different though. The server team was an offline test, more of an open book set of challenge problems, they gave a week to do it but I was able to complete it in an afternoon
2019-07-02 08-18-10 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>sure, happy to assist. what's the job?
2019-09-16 01-22-57 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>did you invite Mc?
2019-02-11 12-56-53 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I noticed some of the work you've been doing there. Been starting to poke at code a bit more.
2019-09-18 05-54-49 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>best chance to reach me on my mobile is probably via email - bryceharrington@yahoo.com
2019-07-02 08-59-47 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>good luck! let me know if there's more I can do to help
2020-11-18 01-25-03 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I've been thinking of CCing Carl to re-take ownership of the project. But Uli is the natural "obvious" maintainer since he's done all the actual recent maintenance work; he seems unwilling to take it over, though, unfortunately.
2019-02-11 12-53-18 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>how are things going btw?
2020-11-18 00-53-55 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I don't want to put too much on Mc.
2019-07-02 08-53-41 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>weird interview
2020-11-18 01-49-00 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>you may be right that being more explicit would help. I'm not sure on that count - I'd appreciate your advice.
2019-09-13 09-18-00 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>they haven't published the full schedule yet, but from what I've heard it'll be pretty packed days
2018-12-06 12-43-57 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>thanks
2019-07-14 13-33-11 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>sure, 14094 SW Tewkesbury Dr, Tigard, OR 97224
2019-02-11 13-02-14 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>good. I spent time yesterday clearing things in inkscape/inkscape/issues down, fixed a few, closed a few, bumped a few back to Inbox that need more definition. 36 bugs there now, which seems a lot more approachable than 5000.
2019-02-11 12-58-14 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>mainly though wondering since we've been introducing a lot of changes lately, how you're feeling about e.g. bug tracker, etc.
2019-07-02 08-57-57 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>a common way a lot of people get hired on (and how I got hired on originally) was to get involved in the given team's packaging efforts as a community contributor. That was how I got on as X maintainer, I was helping with X bugs and packaging for some months prior
2019-09-13 09-09-42 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I believe I'm at the Hyatt Regency Paris Etoile, 3, Place Du Général Koenig 75017 Paris, but I should doublecheck
2019-02-11 13-03-32 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>hopefully we can chat more about class organization at the scale hackfest. I also noticed going through the DialogManager code that it's accumulated quite a few accessory classes.
2020-11-18 01-01-55 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I had encouraged Mc to take over pixman maintenance to help in these regards.
2020-11-18 00-49-07 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>hi tav, had you had any recent contact with kk? I emailed him recently but no response
2018-12-05 20-20-09 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>Thanks for the reminder about the meeting announcement, I've sent it.
2019-07-10 08-00-35 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>no, probably better for more active gsoc people to go, I was just assisting on a few admin things
2019-09-13 09-08-15 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>heya Tav, looks like there's nothing planned for Wed and Thurs evenings
2018-12-05 20-21-17 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>my mom passed away this morning, and has been on hospice the past few weeks, and I've not been very attentive with Inkscape lately
2019-07-02 08-48-53 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>sorry, done. from what I saw of the other interviewees taking the test with me, it seems quite competitive, with people that were either previously employed doing packaging at canonical or who have been heavily active in debian as packagers
2019-09-13 09-34-47 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>great would be nice to finally meet him
2020-11-18 01-07-31 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>in practice, though, it needs someone who can push it forward developmentally and deal with lots of pushback for resulting regressions
2020-11-18 01-26-27 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>as crappy I am as a maintainer, I suspect i'm still a better choice than any of them
2020-11-18 01-33-49 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>willingness is a big part of the equation but it's only one part.
2019-06-06 16-07-43 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>yes, did you get the announcement?
2020-11-18 01-53-41 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>regarding the 'toy api' font rendering, you're completely right that it simply causes a lot of grief. The issue though, is that it wasn't taken into account properly during the testsuite's development.
2020-11-18 00-53-14 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>but I can do at least one more release.
2020-11-18 01-04-52 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>heh, I need a stiffer drink.
2020-11-18 00-52-27 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I should probably retire as cairo maintainer and hand it over to someone else, but so far not clear who to hand it off to
2019-07-02 08-54-01 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>also was held at 3am my time so that was fun
2019-07-02 08-29-40 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>yep
2019-09-13 09-35-50 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>since everyone in engineering works remotely, it's a time to get together for F2F meetings, trainings, and work
2019-02-11 12-46-34 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>they seem to be *very* behind atm
2019-09-18 08-39-39 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>ok
2020-11-18 00-55-55 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>he seems to have the time for the technicals but tbh he isn't as good at documenting the efforts, at least for the infrastructural stuff
2019-07-02 08-56-19 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>sorry, I didn't write down the other interviewee names, but if you look up any of the current desktop team members you can see what their backgrounds are
2019-07-02 08-39-30 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>(sorry, in meeting)
2019-09-16 04-43-51 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>great thanks
2019-09-18 05-54-59 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I'm also on telegram if you're on that
2020-11-18 00-50-55 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>yeah I know... see my replies to the cairo ML from today
2019-07-02 08-24-59 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I suspect snap packaging experience is a particular thing they're looking for, so if you have it highlight it
2019-07-02 08-26-47 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I took the online test for that position earlier this year
2019-09-18 05-53-11 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>yep, looking forward to it. I don't have cell service here in France, but my number is +1 5044840647
2019-07-02 08-27-04 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>Was an online multiple-choice quiz, with 20 min given to do it, but could be completed in 5-10 min. Questions are like: * What file systems support snapshots * Which of these are packaging systems * Which of these are ways to get administrative rights * Which of these are parts of the OSI level 7 model * Which of these are ways to copy a file * Which of these are ways to show the GNOME display * In which of these languages does tabbing affect program correctness
2019-07-02 08-50-00 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>however, the desktop team has had a position listed on their website for a long time (I remember first seeing it early last year) so maybe they're looking for some super specific skills (beyond just packaging)
2020-11-18 01-01-15 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>honestly I'm not sure on that. One of the reasons I took on maintainership for Cairo was in hopes I could influence its direction for inkscape's benefit. And indeed I think I did do one or two changes to benefit Inkscape, however in general it ended up mostly being a ton of work irregardless of Inkscape's actual needs.
2019-07-02 08-54-38 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>only the desktop team did it that way. I don't know if they're still doing testing that way or not. The other two teams I applied for had written tests like I mentioned.
2019-02-11 12-46-03 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>#conservancy on FreeNode
2019-09-16 05-21-12 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>great, will see you guys then
2019-09-13 09-16-46 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>yes, confirmed that's the hotel we're at.
2019-09-16 01-22-45 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>heya, yes if you can meet me in Paris around 7pm that'd work great. I can meet you in the hotel lobby at that time and find a place from here.
2019-09-13 09-18-31 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>would be great to get together for dinner wednesday, I'll pencil it in :-)
2019-07-02 08-23-58 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>ah cool. let me know how I can help
2019-07-02 08-28-53 PDTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>yeah I never got asked to interview, no idea why
2019-02-11 13-03-38 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>good luck with the meeting
2020-11-18 00-51-22 PSTBryce Harrington <bryce@bryceharrington.org>I'll have a chunk of time over U.S.A. Thanksgiving holiday and will try to tackle it then