| 2020-03-02 04-39-16 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | I'm not chrome user either. I picked it as most popular one. There should be no problem to do same for firefox.
Now it's for everything it finds links to. |
| 2020-03-02 02-32-50 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Sorry for direct messaging. Unfortunately my announce got little/no attention in devel chat. Probably it was not suitable channel.
Here is the idea. The extension finds links to commits and adds direct link to corresponding AppImage artifact (if any).
Fairly straightforward, but took me a while to figure out how to deal with it.
I plan to do same for Mac and Windows bundles and finally publish the extension in store.
It works now but it is still too raw to advertise to use it in a daily basis.
It would be nice to get some feedback from potential users ahead of time. Can you help with it? |
| 2020-03-02 15-12-27 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Yeah, there are options here. I'll consult with Martin and Patric when time comes |
| 2019-05-29 13-23-29 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Hi, here is email: sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com and username: sizmailov |
| 2019-05-29 13-40-24 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | The most difficult part in English is *correct* English. |
| 2019-05-29 13-32-38 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Ok, great) |
| 2020-03-02 04-39-05 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | AppImage links (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/F3rsGK8BJtAoz5NjY/AppImage%20links) |
| 2019-05-29 13-28-38 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Do you know ETA for 1.0 release? |
| 2020-03-02 04-42-49 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | It's matter of few API calls from web page. |
| 2020-03-02 04-44-32 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | I didn't experience 404 error so far. May be due to poor testing.. |
| 2019-05-29 13-38-53 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Nowadays all programming and science done in English. Basically we don't have a choice. |
| 2019-05-29 13-34-07 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | I do |
| 2020-03-02 04-50-08 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Can we host a page ourself? |
| 2020-03-02 04-40-47 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | The only Gitlab API problem I faced is the requirement for token with ultimate rights to read PUBLIC information. Now I'm using empty gitlab user token to do the trick. |
| 2019-05-29 13-23-59 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Ok, thanks! |
| 2019-05-29 13-36-58 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | I'm native russian, so for me it's not difficult at all) |
| 2020-03-02 04-53-15 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Ok. It's better to know the problem to solve first :) |
| 2020-03-02 04-42-29 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | If you want to provide links on web page there should be no obstacles either |
| 2020-03-02 04-53-19 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Thanks for input |
| 2020-03-02 04-48-35 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | WRT missing artifact. Last commit didn't run applimage:linux job |
| 2020-04-26 01-39-26 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Thanks for personal invite but I don't feel of myself as a literate person or one who can write motivating letters (I had nasty experience before ;)
Nevertheless I partially filled forms, hope it helps |
| 2020-03-02 15-08-29 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Win & MacOS already serve most recent links, I'll take a look at it and propose a MR for AppImage. Hopefully I'll be able to do it next week |
| 2020-03-02 13-17-21 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | This kind of indirection requires something that can issue several API quires in a row |
| 2020-03-02 13-16-18 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | You are right, `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/master/download?job=appimage%3Alinux` leads to 404
At the same time `https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/456464633/artifacts/raw/Inkscape-2a7dc7f-x86_64.AppImage`
works just fine. I don't know whether it's a gitlab bug or not.
Of course latter is more cumbersome as it requires one to know job id and commit hash (as it's part of downloadable file) |
| 2019-05-29 13-30-49 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | I see. I'm not really 100% confident in my english skill. May I ask someone to double check my wiki edits? |
| 2020-03-02 04-45-24 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | But the main purpose of browser extension is to help reviewers/testers |
| 2019-05-29 13-35-30 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | :smiley: |
| 2019-05-29 13-41-47 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | I don't use VPN at home. Things are not that bad as it could be. |
| 2019-05-29 13-43-46 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Have a good day. I enjoyed the conversation. ) |
| 2020-03-02 02-26-41 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Hi, I'm unfamiliar with reporters workflow, but I think a chrome extension can ease it a bit.
https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=M7M3ci4dzzyhYn8kP () |
| 2020-03-02 04-48-19 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | It's still 5 clicks instead of 1... |
| 2020-03-02 04-45-50 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | (I think their time is most valuable) |
| 2019-05-29 13-27-53 PDT | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Done. Many thanks! |
| 2020-03-02 04-46-24 PST | Sergei Izmailov <sergei.a.izmailov@gmail.com> | Which repo is it? |
| 2020-03-02 04-41-26 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | And they don't understand how that could be an issue... |
| 2020-03-02 04-50-16 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Another option would be to make a GitLab MR with your suggestion. |
| 2019-05-29 13-42-23 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | That's good! It's also difficult for us, because of the script/language barrier, to know how things are. |
| 2019-05-29 13-37-46 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | (I meant the English for you) |
| 2019-05-29 13-29-31 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | So, nothing concrete. |
| 2020-03-02 04-50-41 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | We already have a server that can run small scripts and provide links. |
| 2019-05-29 13-29-24 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | (last time Bryce said something about it) |
| 2020-03-02 15-10-50 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Best ask Martin and Patrick about how to best make it so it can be available on the website. |
| 2019-05-29 13-34-18 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Dobroy vecher :) |
| 2019-05-29 13-32-00 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | It's just important that the info is available, and you as the person who wrote it know best what the change is doing. |
| 2020-03-02 04-53-53 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Thanks for your dedication, it's good that you're helping us here! |
| 2020-03-02 04-47-02 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Testers know where to find artifacts, I think. |
| 2020-03-02 04-43-22 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | And if the build failed, to the latest one that succeeded. |
| 2019-05-29 13-35-28 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | I can still read it, though. Just don't understand what I read :joy: |
| 2019-05-29 13-28-23 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Thank *you* for contributing to Inkscape, Sergei! |
| 2020-03-02 15-10-03 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | (sometimes, people need to click through several pages of the jobs page, that's quite a bit time-consuming) |
| 2019-05-29 13-23-51 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | I'll set up a Wiki account for you... Wait a minute. |
| 2020-03-02 04-32-55 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Interesting idea - I'm not using Chrome though. If you want to find testers, try the forum or the user mailing list.
Which version do you think is the most important one to test?
If this is mainly for most recent master / most recent 1.0.x, and not for bug triage (I think those people know where they are supposed to find downloadable files, esp. on Linux, and bug fixers will link to the correct packages directly when they ask someone to test their new feature/fix), I know of another place where this would be more important.
This is the official download page on the website. We do have direct links to the latest macOS and Windows builds - however, there is a GitLab bug blocking us from being able to provide a reliable link for Linux AppImages. It's probably possible to automate the instructions that we currently have on the website for that case. |
| 2020-03-02 15-12-48 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Thanks, that would be cool! |
| 2019-05-29 14-09-38 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Early september: release ! |
| 2020-03-02 04-47-20 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Either someone links to it for them, or they already know their way around. |
| 2020-03-02 04-45-46 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Currently, the link is missing entirely... https://imgur.com/CdU61P0.png |
| 2019-05-29 13-41-02 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | As long as it's understandable, you don't need to worry about Inkscapers. |
| 2019-05-29 13-37-57 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | (but I guess you got that) |
| 2019-05-29 13-33-59 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | You speak Russian? |
| 2019-05-29 13-31-04 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Yes, of course. |
| 2020-04-25 14-58-52 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Hi Sergei! I think you've contributed quite a lot of smart things to the 1.0 release (at least I rarely understood anything ;-) ). If you're up for it, we are currently doing this contributor interview at https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 - I think it would be interesting to hear from you, too! |
| 2020-03-02 04-46-06 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Oops. |
| 2019-05-29 13-41-25 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Except China. |
| 2019-05-29 13-32-15 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | So, don't worry about that. |
| 2020-03-02 04-48-53 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | It should still be in the 'previous' list... |
| 2019-05-29 13-34-41 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | (I don't remember much from my Russian course, it's long ago ) |
| 2019-05-29 13-39-40 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Probably an additional barrier. |
| 2020-03-02 04-46-36 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/tree/master/ |
| 2020-03-02 15-11-36 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | I don't know which way to put this online would be preferred. |
| 2020-03-02 04-47-42 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | It's the casual beta testers who cannot find things. |
| 2020-03-02 04-49-34 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Or at least there should be an easy way to provide it directly from the website, where people come to download things. |
| 2020-03-02 15-09-12 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | It's not urgent, this issue exists for quite some time. But it would really be nice to have a solution for it :D |
| 2019-05-29 14-09-15 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Just got to reading my emails. Marc provided an updated roadmap for the release there:
- As soon as possible: 1.0~alpha2
- Between mid-june and end of june (when toolbar and immediately
noticeable bugs are fixed): 1.0~beta
- End of June: Feature freeze and 1.0 branch
- End of July: String freeze
- Between mid-june and mid-august: bug hunt! |
| 2019-05-29 13-42-54 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Anyway, have a great evening, Sergei! |
| 2019-05-29 14-09-53 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | (on the developer's mailing list) |
| 2020-03-02 15-03-57 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | The bug report is here: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-foss/issues/45697 (and it was closed by Gitlab) |
| 2019-05-29 13-26-00 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Your Wiki password is now ui5ahK0Eih . Please change it as soon as possible! Wiki usernames always start with a capital letter, so use Sizmailov when trying to log in :) |
| 2019-05-29 13-23-41 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Thanks! |
| 2020-03-02 04-41-12 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | It often gives a 404 for the latest build artifacts. |
| 2019-05-29 13-29-01 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | 'Sometime this summer or fall' |
| 2019-05-29 13-39-59 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Aside from needing VPN for some things, I guess. |
| 2020-04-26 09-52-45 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Yes! Thank you, Sergei! Not everyone needs to create a work of word art. If there are only people who can write great texts, who would do the good and solid programming? |
| 2020-03-02 15-01-20 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Yes, it basically needs to do the set of instructions here: https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-master/gnulinux/appimage/dl/ - only automagically. And with a max depth, so it won't take forever ;-) |
| 2019-05-29 13-41-34 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | And Africa. |
| 2020-03-02 04-51-19 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Or it could be an official part of the website code, of course. |
| 2019-05-29 13-31-27 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | (I'll be editing there a lot anyway, and we might get the help of a documentation writer with it, too) |
| 2020-03-02 04-48-11 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | They'd only be confused. |
| 2020-03-02 04-47-53 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | But they don't need all those various commits. |
| 2019-05-29 13-37-22 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | :) |
| 2020-03-02 04-52-44 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Need to go now - if you want to go further with this, you can talk with Martin / doctormo about implementation details. |
| 2020-03-02 04-46-03 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Oh, I guess that was the wrong repo... |
| 2020-03-02 15-11-21 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | js, python, ... fixed link on alpha, or part of inkscape-web etc. |
| 2019-05-29 13-39-21 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | Yes, that's true. |
| 2020-03-02 04-51-04 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | It's where inkchatbot lives, for example. |
| 2019-05-29 13-41-16 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | They are used to people coming from everywhere. |
| 2020-03-02 04-42-59 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | It only needs one to latest master AppImage and latest 1.0.x AppImage... |
| 2019-05-29 13-36-03 PDT | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | So I can imagine how difficult it must be. |
| 2020-03-02 04-46-23 PST | Moini <maren@goos-habermann.de> | No, correct... |
