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2020-11-27 04-48-21 PST greytomorrow Well, thanks for your input...as I said, I'll keep looking but otherwise I'll file a new report and let the powers that be decide 2020-04-02 10-09-53 PDT greytomorrow Nathan...RE: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/2164 2020-04-07 04-57-16 PDT greytomorrow Text_and_Font_2.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/rMqH2qcedNntLR7Tp/Text_and_Font_2.svg) 2020-11-27 04-43-02 PST greytomorrow Long story short, when using my Wacom tablet, sometimes the cursor is offset making drawing and selecting difficult. This usually happens when a document has its size and units of measurment changed in Document Properties. 2020-11-03 02-34-39 PST greytomorrow Ex-jhofinger put a bug in my ear as they say... 2020-04-07 04-56-19 PDT greytomorrow so... 2020-09-13 00-59-29 PDT greytomorrow :+1: 2020-11-27 04-43-50 PST greytomorrow I've just encountered this issue and "resolved" it because (in this case) the document is set to px all the other tools default to mm 2020-04-03 01-44-47 PDT greytomorrow Summary: HELP! 2020-11-03 02-36-49 PST greytomorrow I can understand why nobody is working on docs! 2020-09-12 22-15-23 PDT greytomorrow HEY, NATHAN! ( :facepalm: "Oh no! Not greytomorrow **again!**" :laughing: ) I'm asking you before I do a general search 'cos **you're a bright fella that uses Linux** and I like you better than Google!...Being how I have two instances of Inkscape on my machine (1.0.1 and the snap) when I click on "Activities" I obviously see two instances of Inkscape side by side. Since GNOME SUCKS there's no way to tell them apart...offhand, is there a way how to rename one...maybe a .desktop file edit or something? DON'T DO A SEARCH, IT' S MY PROBLEM. If you don't know a way off the top of your head, no worries! Thanks, pal! 2020-11-06 21-45-07 PST greytomorrow Thanks again 2020-11-19 08-45-14 PST greytomorrow I was gonna comment saying that the dialogs don't remember their positions from being restored from iconfication(?).... 2020-03-19 00-25-27 PDT greytomorrow Hello, Nathan...regarding your last message...duh :drool: :laughing: ...what does that mean? 2020-11-03 02-37-47 PST greytomorrow So, be forewarned! :ghost: I may bust your chops in the near future regarding how something works (or not) in Inkscape 2020-11-09 00-33-45 PST greytomorrow I was thinking of posting this question to INBOX but don't think it's exactly pertinent there...any ideas? 2020-12-01 08-34-21 PST greytomorrow You put too much faith in me, Nathan! :laughing: See ya! 2020-09-08 22-14-07 PDT greytomorrow Sir, yes, SIR! :bow: :laughing: 2020-04-07 04-58-37 PDT greytomorrow both pdfs have the fonts converted to outlines to show you exactly what I'm seeing 2020-11-27 04-44-37 PST greytomorrow That's what I thought (in fact I've got it open in another tab) 2020-04-07 04-59-57 PDT greytomorrow ah, okay! :+1: 2020-11-27 04-44-07 PST greytomorrow Changing the Select tool to px resolves the offset! 2020-04-07 05-03-12 PDT greytomorrow my pleasure! :+1: carry on. Oh, and thanks for clearing up the misunderstanding https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/2209 2020-11-19 08-45-33 PST greytomorrow but then I noticed in the latest dev, DIALOGS DON'T ICONIFY! 2020-11-27 04-47-32 PST greytomorrow Yeah, I would say so. I could never figure out why in some documents the offset exists 2020-11-19 08-56-21 PST greytomorrow Thanks for the clarification :rofl: 2020-12-22 23-27-24 PST greytomorrow re: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/4219 -- related?: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/3784 ...and happy whatever, Nathan! :heart: 2020-11-19 09-01-12 PST greytomorrow LATER 2020-04-21 08-19-31 PDT greytomorrow Nathan, I'm about to reply to issue #2454 but before I do I just wanted to say something... 2020-09-06 23-13-21 PDT greytomorrow nathan 🦸 so sorry to bother you but how does one close an issue as duplicate? I just closed https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/3491 but it's just *Closed* as opposed to *Closed (Duplicate)*...I searched the GitLab docs but see nothing pertaining. 2020-04-02 10-13-29 PDT greytomorrow My results were like yours: file No 1 is invisible on open ungrouping and union seems to reslve the problem... 2020-04-07 04-37-09 PDT greytomorrow Nathan, re: inkscape#1178 you wrote... 2020-09-08 11-46-36 PDT greytomorrow THIS IS NOT A REPRIMAND IN ANY WAY! If you say "close it" I say "Sir, yes, sir!" I was just thinking more about those silly bug points. You found it, they're yours. Awaiting orders, sir, yes, SIR! :smile: 2020-11-19 08-56-58 PST greytomorrow especially since you opointed out the iconify and close widgets are misaligned 2020-11-03 02-36-33 PST greytomorrow So piece by piece when life allows I've been trying to put something... 2020-04-07 05-00-26 PDT greytomorrow :laughing: 2020-04-02 10-16-03 PDT greytomorrow yes, you don't need to say it...if I don't fully understand the issue at hand, DON'T MIGRATE/CLOSE 2020-11-19 08-57-09 PST greytomorrow maybe you made somebody mad 2020-11-06 21-44-01 PST greytomorrow I just wanted to say THANK YOU and... 2020-04-07 04-38-32 PDT greytomorrow I wasn't sure if I should have responded there because, after reading that question too late, I did some further investigation... 2020-04-03 02-33-06 PDT greytomorrow Will try my best. Thank you. 2020-11-27 04-48-38 PST greytomorrow :+1: :heart: 2020-04-21 08-20-16 PDT greytomorrow Since the start of my, some would say, less-than-quiet participation here you have demonstrated yourself as knowledgable, helpful and friendly to me, regardless if we see things eye to eye or not (which itself has been rare). Your advice and encouragement have been most appreciated. So, I don't want you to think for one minute that anything I write in #2454 is aimed at you in any way. ¿Claro? 2020-04-03 01-44-40 PDT greytomorrow Nathan, much as I hate to admit it, I'm having trouble analyzing/summarizing. In your (esteemed) opinion, what's the real issue here? Which are the pertinent comments to be summarized? Nothing in that original file makes sense to me! Is it because there are path with only one point? Is it because path7968 is **way out in outer space**? I can't get a grasp on how any of this would affect the non-grouped objects. There's no connection here. 2020-11-19 09-01-06 PST greytomorrow uh...yeh. Well, as long as iconify comes back, i don't care if they're using Turbo Pascal 2020-11-06 21-43-49 PST greytomorrow Nathan, I just saw all of the issues that you split out/discovered from https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/3560 2020-11-03 02-39-37 PST greytomorrow I just wanted to say hello 2020-11-03 02-35-16 PST greytomorrow Whay does he hate me? :laughing: 2020-11-03 02-34-57 PST greytomorrow A few weeks ago he said maybe I should work on documentation 2020-10-07 07-04-21 PDT greytomorrow NATHAN A LEE, I want you to know once again that, even though as of lately it seems I'm coming down heavy on the Inkscape project (especially with issues you seem to be fielding) NONE OF THIS IS TO BE TAKEN PERSONALLY!!! None of it is aimed at YOU! Y'unnerstan? YOU are one of the few professionals here and my appreciation of that cannot be understated. 2020-11-09 00-33-12 PST greytomorrow Is there some kind of naming scheme for dialogs in Inkscape? It appears to me that if it floats, it is referred to as a "dialog" and while that's not incorrect, presently there's no way to specify between dockable, non-modal dialogs and file requesters or warning dialogs, etc etc. 2020-11-09 02-51-05 PST greytomorrow I think I would refer to any dockable dialog with the inner titlebar, as you mentioned, "palettes" or even "inspectors"...but I don't seem to find either term used in any documentation (admittedly, I didn't look *that* hard)...they are *all* considered "dialogs"...which they *are*, but that's about as specific as calling them "windows". :laughing:
IN ANY CASE, thanks for your (always appreciated) input, Mr Lee! :sunny: 2020-10-19 23-14-54 PDT greytomorrow Closing that LP issue only as a courtesy to you and sorry, I didn't remember to return to that issue to close it (easily distracted :smile: ). 2020-11-19 08-57-15 PST greytomorrow :laughing: 2020-11-19 08-56-35 PST greytomorrow It would seem odd removing iconfiy 2020-09-20 06-32-02 PDT greytomorrow Well, thanks anyway, Nathan. I don't know what I'd do without you. Now if you'll excuse me I'm being called into the principal's office again... :facepalm: 2020-04-07 04-56-16 PDT greytomorrow possibly :blush: and you may not have the fonts installed on your system 2020-11-19 08-44-15 PST greytomorrow HEY, NATHAAAAAAAAAN!!! 2020-09-07 00-21-02 PDT greytomorrow Thanks! :bow: What would I do without you?! 2020-11-03 02-39-22 PST greytomorrow But seriously, I was told no one is working on docs these days 2020-04-07 04-58-44 PDT greytomorrow when you get a minute... 2020-04-02 10-13-39 PDT greytomorrow file No 2 I don't know what's going on with that! 2020-04-02 10-15-30 PDT greytomorrow the main reason I migrated is that I felt I was missing some detail somewhere and better to migrate than to assume the problem was resolved (as it seems to be). 2020-04-02 10-17-07 PDT greytomorrow I leave it to you to decide whether to close or not 2020-11-19 08-44-34 PST greytomorrow I was just looking at yr https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/4036 2020-04-07 04-56-46 PDT greytomorrow Text_and_Font.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ybJRRQ4xH2u8WgNRn/Text_and_Font.svg) 2020-12-01 08-24-11 PST greytomorrow ??? Thanks...but what does that even **mean**? Did you forget I'm stupid? :laughing: 2020-11-03 02-39-28 PST greytomorrow whatever 2020-04-02 10-14-35 PDT greytomorrow file no 3 works as expected (?)...at least it's visible 2020-04-21 10-13-20 PDT greytomorrow Nathan A Lee, you're the greatest :heart: 2020-11-19 09-01-15 PST greytomorrow and thanks! 2020-09-08 11-44-31 PDT greytomorrow Nathan A Lee...I've looking at https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/2061 for days now...and you're thinking "Yeah? So what?" :laughing: BUT you mention that big, fat bug-migration issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/170257...yet you didn't close it...I'm wondering why. 2020-11-06 21-44-50 PST greytomorrow I hope the Owners here are at least acknowledging how much you do here!!! :heart: :+1: 2020-04-07 04-57-00 PDT greytomorrow Text_and_Font.pdf (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/JboCS6avfPBTsz6tc/Text_and_Font.pdf) 2020-11-03 02-32-08 PST greytomorrow Nathan, do you ever sleep? :laughing: How are you doing? It's been a while since I've had the pleasure of working directly with you. 2020-11-09 00-31-11 PST greytomorrow Listen, Nathan...I have a (of course, pedantic) question and would appreciate your opinion when you have a free moment... 2020-10-19 23-16-35 PDT greytomorrow I don't even remember the issue that sparked my message to you on the 7th :white_frowning_face: 2020-04-07 04-56-38 PDT greytomorrow here we go 2020-12-01 08-33-56 PST greytomorrow Well, thanks for the explanation...I should probably go over to #team_testing and have a look 2020-09-19 02-24-58 PDT greytomorrow And BTW hope you're doing well, ~causing trouble~ having fun and making money away from your computer! 2020-09-13 00-54-53 PDT greytomorrow Wait! One last question...how does Nathan A. Lee handles this situation? Do you just live with it or what? 2020-03-19 00-38-21 PDT greytomorrow Ah...I get it! ###Steps to Reproduce ###What happened? etc etc, right? 2020-04-20 11-22-07 PDT greytomorrow Hey, Nathan! Regarding that Windows backtrace, does one have to navigate to /Inkscape 1.0beta2/bin first or can you just run that backtraceblahblahblah.bat from wherever? 2020-04-07 04-57-25 PDT greytomorrow Text_and_Font_2.pdf (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/AbZpBQwzrEJqhEmHz/Text_and_Font_2.pdf) 2020-11-27 04-45-02 PST greytomorrow But the only problem is mine is a Wacom and I'm on the Mac 2020-11-19 08-44-19 PST greytomorrow :laughing: 2020-11-27 04-41-40 PST greytomorrow Nathan, are you there? I've discovered something regarding tablets not being synced to their cursor position...I know there are reported issues but I'm not sure where to report my finding. 2020-04-07 04-39-35 PDT greytomorrow If you don't mind I'd like to send you four files (two svgs with their pdf counterparts) 2020-04-07 05-00-21 PDT greytomorrow great...for a minute there I had thought I missed something the first go-around 2020-11-09 00-30-15 PST greytomorrow Awww...knock it off! :heart: There's a huge difference between migrating bugs and what you're doing! 🧠 2020-11-27 04-46-07 PST greytomorrow I know it's already at least mentioned somewhere before...I'll keep looking...otherwise...I can't exactly file a new issue as this resolves an existing issue...no? 2020-09-19 02-23-35 PDT greytomorrow Oh, genie of the lamp 🧞♂️ :rofl: as far as you know (and you know everything!) is there a way to search GitLab not by Author not by Commenter? I've been searching GitLab docs for a week now (besides the usual websearches) and I find nothing...one would then assume that you can't but I know you know something! :laughing: 2020-11-03 02-50-51 PST greytomorrow Or maybe Inkscape's always been in low maintanence? Still a bit iffy on how Inkscape manages to get stuff done on 100% volunteer power. Oooh...haven't you learned already not to get me going on certain polemic issues! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: It's a question that's been rolling around in my mind for a while now. BUT we'll put that aside for now. You have a wonderful day and I'll talk to you soon! :wave: 2020-09-13 00-36-48 PDT greytomorrow No problem! Thanks anyway! I'm off to stackexchange! :laughing: 2020-11-03 02-39-05 PST greytomorrow hahahahaha...see, I :heart: the written word...that's why I was suckered into this so easily! :laughing: 2020-11-19 08-45-41 PST greytomorrow Was that the plan? 2020-04-07 04-37-28 PDT greytomorrow With way of replicability, I'm curious if you tested the issue with the Text and Font dialog or not. 2020-11-03 02-34-16 PST greytomorrow Besides washing face masks and avoiding people more than usual? :smile: Not much really... 2020-04-20 11-28-01 PDT greytomorrow Thank you, Nathan! 2020-04-02 17-48-25 PDT Nathan Lee yes, there's still an issue there, and its fine to migrate after testing the issue and still replicating. However, you should summarise the comments. The issue should describe the bug as it exists (its not really important to migrate the already fixed bug). From the comments, I gather that the issue is already fixed, but there is a problem with one of the existing paths that breaks rendering on canvas (so, unrelated to unioning or at least unrelated to the number of shapes). Could you edit the description to address this? 2020-11-19 08-51-18 PST Nathan Lee I don't know, may be a regression, planned, or a time constraint in development (I think this is the uber issue https://gitlab.com/inkscape/ux/-/issues/38) 2020-04-07 04-52-32 PDT Nathan Lee sure. Why pdf? Is there another issue here? 2020-04-21 08-42-48 PDT Nathan Lee nevermind, I figured it out :upside_down: No crosswires, just butting heads :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: 2020-11-09 02-26-40 PST Nathan Lee I suppose all dialogs are just called dialogs, with the name of dialog used to differentiate them. I'm not aware of a official naming scheme used to differentiate the Fill and stroke dialog from the dialogs created by extensions or warning dialogs, though dialogs like the Fill & Stroke dialog are sometimes called palettes (and if you just say dialogs, I'd assume you're talking about these but not the warning dialogs, depending on context of course)
For the palettes, they can be open in 3 states: floating (when in floating mode), and docked and undocked (for non-floating mode).
You could throw the question up in the forums or here in the chat and see if anyone uses something more specific :confused: 2020-09-01 22-54-31 PDT Nathan Lee Before I forget again, just added you to the bug wranglers team. 2020-04-21 08-26-15 PDT Nathan Lee Of course, and thank you for your kind words. Participation can't be quiet of course, and I appreciate you stepping in to help wrangle all these bugs. 2020-11-27 04-49-24 PST Nathan Lee no problem :p 2020-03-18 14-27-28 PDT Nathan Lee Hey, just a heads up. For bug migration, remember to fit the old bug into the gitlab template where appropriate (e.g. bug reports). I'm not on a computer right now so I can't help confirm them btw. Just wanted to let you know early on. Thanks for helping out with the migration! 2020-04-03 01-51-17 PDT Nathan Lee So the real issue would be that "path7968 is *way out in outer space*" (simply because the other one has already been fixed and we don't care about that issue anymore) 2020-09-13 00-58-40 PDT Nathan Lee I guess, I personally launch Inkscape from the terminal. I don't have many conflicts (just Inkscape and maybe GIMP, but I couldn't care which version of GIMP is opened). I actually launch master with the short command `ink`. I google most things and otherwise keep a very plain desktop. 2020-11-03 02-36-12 PST Nathan Lee Hey, it's just the natural next step :) 2020-11-03 02-38-19 PST Nathan Lee Oh? What's wrong with docs? Besides the natural hatred for the written word :angel: 2020-11-03 02-33-10 PST Nathan Lee Of course, wdym :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: I'm good, how are you? What have you been up to? 2020-11-08 07-09-21 PST Nathan Lee Thanks again for the kind words! :hugging: And thank *you* for migrating all those issues over to GitLab. I don't notice it enough, but you've knocked out a huge chunk of the bug reports 2020-12-01 06-12-32 PST Nathan Lee Just an fyi, we're trying compile a blocker list for 1.1 in #team_testing . It'll take place over weeks, but should be a chance to make sure issues don't slip through the cracks. 2020-04-21 08-28-20 PDT Nathan Lee oh, actually, I think we're at crosswires at 2454 :sweat_smile: more details in the reply 2020-11-27 04-44-18 PST Nathan Lee You can probably add a comment to https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/issues/2047 2020-04-03 01-50-23 PDT Nathan Lee I'm not sure what the issue is (I haven't read through all the comments in detail). Since I can't replicate comment #5, I would remove that file from the description and only focus on the comments from #8 onwards (particularly since it seems the original issue is fixed) 2020-04-03 02-43-22 PDT Nathan Lee Thanks, it helps as it means we don't need to refer back to the original issue to parse what the issue is. For bug migration, we only care about the existing issues, and generally can ignore any fixed ones in a report (it might be helpful to briefly mention the old bug). 2020-10-19 15-22-10 PDT Nathan Lee Thanks for the message, that applies in both directions of course! Sorry for the ironically slow response, I thought I did reply :cold_sweat: Only opened this chat again because I closed an issues before realizing you marked it as bug-migration. Feel free to steal the credit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1746054 2020-12-23 02-10-06 PST Nathan Lee Happy holidays! :fireworks: Unfortunately issues unrelated, comparing backtraces. 2020-09-12 23-33-50 PDT Nathan Lee sorry, it's something you'd need google for (though I do think a .desktop file what you'll need to change). Probably changing the ppa version is easier. 2020-04-07 04-59-23 PDT Nathan Lee just a glance at the pdfs, looks like what I expect/get with the (unfixed) issue. 2020-09-01 22-57-48 PDT Nathan Lee I should have added you months ages ago!
Documentation found at https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/blob/master/Guidelines.md . It needs to be updated, if you have any questions, feel free to ask on #bug_migration
You should be able to assign labels now, and move issues once they have been confirmed and are bugs 2020-09-01 22-59-38 PDT Nathan Lee And you should be able to request membership to https://inkscape.org/*issue/ (just to show that you're part of the team) 2020-11-27 04-47-01 PST Nathan Lee well, having different units in your tools shouldn't cause any problems (you've found a workaround, but it's still a bug if i understand correctly). 2020-12-01 08-32-07 PST Nathan Lee We're going through the bugs in inkscape/inkscape and noting the ones that need to be fixed for 1.1 (otherwise the release doesn't happen). We have importance labels already, but this is meant to provide a non-developer perspective, and also be more specific. See https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_testing?msg=iLhq9mRjrutZTDS27 for my post about it. () 2020-03-19 00-57-37 PDT Nathan Lee Yup 😁 2020-09-19 18-11-43 PDT Nathan Lee Not that I know of unfortunately. If you use the search at the very top of the page, you can search through the comments though (but certain phrases time out) 2020-04-20 11-25-54 PDT Nathan Lee you can double-click to run the file (but you'd still need to navigate to the folder). 2020-04-07 05-01-08 PDT Nathan Lee Thanks for checking for me. It confused me that there wasn't full replication earlier (was there another issue!) 2020-11-27 04-45-18 PST Nathan Lee was about to say, I'm not entirely sure it's not just another bug altogether :sweat_smile: 2020-12-01 08-33-05 PST Nathan Lee oops, didn't realize it'd comment it! Going to head offline in a few minutes. 2020-04-21 08-31-04 PDT Nathan Lee actually, maybe not? could you discuss here in chat. 2020-04-21 08-33-10 PDT Nathan Lee Is the issue the ratio between the blue and the red, or the red and the green? 2020-09-07 00-05-33 PDT Nathan Lee just add a comment with `/duplicate issuelink` in a new line at the bottom :) 2020-11-19 09-06-22 PST Nathan Lee sure :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: sorry I couldn't give a straightforward answer and cya 2020-11-19 08-58-30 PST Nathan Lee nah, this is the new dialog system I mentioned earlier. No longer uses GDL, I think that allows us to port to gtk4 easier or just because gdl isn't actively maintained 2020-04-21 08-32-46 PDT Nathan Lee Glyphs_dialog.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/S8KDr6dtAGtCwcvWc/Glyphs_dialog.png) 2020-11-03 02-41-59 PST Nathan Lee I guess, if I understand correctly, Inkscape's been in low maintanence for while as a lot of boring dev work had to be done for gtk3 migration. Or maybe Inkscape's always been in low maintanence? Still a bit iffy on how Inkscape manages to get stuff done on 100% volunteer power.
Good to talk to you :) Hope your day's good 2020-09-08 16-32-05 PDT Nathan Lee Big and fat? That's probably why I didn't migrate it :stuck_out_tongue: If I link to it to an issue, feel free to migrate it yourself, I'm not tracking those issues at all :sweat_smile:
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