On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:18:28AM -0800, Jon Cruz wrote:
In general I'm strongly against the Launchpad mailing list system, including lack of
configurability, poor subscription management, hard requirements for a Launchpad account,
I've not actually found any particular problems with configuration of
the lists on launchpad, and to be honest our configuration needs for the
board list are fairly basic. Not sure on subscription management; I
haven't run into troubles myself.
But it is certainly true that Launchpad's mailman implementation is
pretty heavily modded from default, and I can see that there might be
My main frustration is that I *often* need to link our official
decisions on matters in emails to people, or to announce them to the
Inkscape community. But SourceForge doesn't break out individual
emails, so I have to post links to our entire discussion threads. I
feel this looks unprofessional, is potentially confusing, and for some
readers provides just Too Much Information. Pretty much any mailing
list system out there will solve my needs better than SourceForge.
Launchpad is (IMHO) the simplest switch we could make; it'd be pretty
much push-button. And really the only solution I'd consider doing
separately from the other inkscape mailing lists.
At some point I'd like to migrate all of the inkscape-* mailing lists
off of SourceForge, and not to Launchpad, but to something much closer
to stock mailman. I haven't thought much about what that'd be, and
honestly don't want to think about it until post-release; maybe a year
So, if anyone is unsure about moving to Launchpad in the near term, and
think it would be better to hold off and just migrate if and when we
migrate all the lists, please go ahead and vote b and we can leave
things as-is for now, and I'll figure out some other way to make our
votes look more formal and official.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 12:00 AM, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> A majority vote of the current board members is required for this
> Move the email list for the Inkscape Board of Directors from
> SourceForge to Launchpad.
> [ ] a. Yes, move inkscape-board@ to Launchpad
> [ ] b. No, keep list on SourceForge
> Regardless of this vote, all other mailing lists will remain
> All Inkscape mailing lists are currently hosted from SourceForge, for
> historical reasons. When Inkscape was founded we used SourceForge for
> all source control, bug tracking, mailing lists, etc.
> Since that time we've moved off SourceForge to Launchpad for the first
> two items, but not the last.
> The mailing list archives are important for board matters both to locate
> past decisions, and for facilitating general transparency into our work.
> Both SourceForge and Launchpad have their own web interface for viewing
> list archives, but SourceForge's implementation is clunky and limited
> compared with Launchpad's.
> Launchpad also provides a more integrated way of managing your mailing
> list subscriptions compared with SourceForge.
> Mailing lists hosted at SourceForge have a textual advertisement
> appended to them, whereas Launchpad does not. This is minor, but it
> does result in our archived emails looking more tidy and professional.
> Another benefit of moving is that the board would be able to handle all
> list administration. Currently, the SourceForge admin team does list
> administration. Presently this is a trivially small benefit, since we
> tend not to require any administration work, and since several board
> members are also SourceForge team administrators.
> A limitation of Launchpad is that it permits only a single mailing list
> per team. However, for the board this is not a hinderance since we only
> have a single mailing list. If a second list is needed, we can always
> just establish a subteam.
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