We may have a copyright/trademark violation
https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/inkscape/id1029852758
Tav
Given that it's a vector editing app, I think that we should notify SFC. If anyone has a reason not to, let me know, otherwise I will email Tony.
Cheers, Josh
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...47...> wrote:
We may have a copyright/trademark violation
https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/inkscape/id1029852758
Tav
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On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 09:36 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
Given that it's a vector editing app, I think that we should notify SFC. If anyone has a reason not to, let me know, otherwise I will email Tony.
Do it. It's a pretty clear violation.
Released: Oct 08, 2015 Person: Fatih Dursun Website: http://www.fatihdursun.net/ Email: fatihdursun@...117...
Although given the lack of copyright violation apparent in the screenshots and the lack of any other information connecting Fatih to the project, it's probably a good faith violation.
Although having said that, they may not be in the USA and so not care too much about our trademark. If they can't change the name, then obvious we go to Apple next.
Martin,
On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 01:09:07PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 09:36 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
Given that it's a vector editing app, I think that we should notify SFC. If anyone has a reason not to, let me know, otherwise I will email Tony.
Do it. It's a pretty clear violation.
Good idea Josh, agreed they need to rename ASAP.
Bryce
Released: Oct 08, 2015 Person: Fatih Dursun Website: http://www.fatihdursun.net/ Email: fatihdursun@...117...
Although given the lack of copyright violation apparent in the screenshots and the lack of any other information connecting Fatih to the project, it's probably a good faith violation.
Although having said that, they may not be in the USA and so not care too much about our trademark. If they can't change the name, then obvious we go to Apple next.
Martin,
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2015-10-08 19:09 GMT+02:00 Martin Owens <doctormo@...23...>:
Although having said that, they may not be in the USA and so not care too much about our trademark. If they can't change the name, then obvious we go to Apple next.
Given the content of the website, they appear to be from Turkey.
I sent an e-mail to the author asking him to rename the application.
Best regards, Krzysztof
On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 21:11 +0200, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
2015-10-08 19:09 GMT+02:00 Martin Owens <doctormo@...23...>:
Although having said that, they may not be in the USA and so not care too much about our trademark. If they can't change the name, then obvious we go to Apple next.
Given the content of the website, they appear to be from Turkey.
It looks like it could be using Inkscape code so we should check that too.
BTW, it was su_v on IRC who first reported it.
I sent an e-mail to the author asking him to rename the application.
Best regards, Krzysztof
Inkscape-board mailing list Inkscape-board@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board
The author responded and said he will change the name. Let's give him a few days, say until 19th, before contacting Apple.
Best regards, Krzysztof
2015-10-08 21:37 GMT+02:00 Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...47...>:
On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 21:11 +0200, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
2015-10-08 19:09 GMT+02:00 Martin Owens <doctormo@...23...>:
Although having said that, they may not be in the USA and so not care too much about our trademark. If they can't change the name, then obvious we go to Apple next.
Given the content of the website, they appear to be from Turkey.
It looks like it could be using Inkscape code so we should check that too.
BTW, it was su_v on IRC who first reported it.
I sent an e-mail to the author asking him to rename the application.
Best regards, Krzysztof
Inkscape-board mailing list Inkscape-board@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board
Looks like the person renamed their app, since the link redirects to the main iTunes page. Can someone confirm that the app is renamed or gone? It looks like the app store cannot be searched without installing iTunes, which I obviously can't do on an Ubuntu machine.
Regards, Krzysztof
2015-10-09 23:17 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...23...>:
The author responded and said he will change the name. Let's give him a few days, say until 19th, before contacting Apple.
Best regards, Krzysztof
2015-10-08 21:37 GMT+02:00 Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...47...>:
On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 21:11 +0200, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
2015-10-08 19:09 GMT+02:00 Martin Owens <doctormo@...23...>:
Although having said that, they may not be in the USA and so not care too much about our trademark. If they can't change the name, then obvious we go to Apple next.
Given the content of the website, they appear to be from Turkey.
It looks like it could be using Inkscape code so we should check that too.
BTW, it was su_v on IRC who first reported it.
I sent an e-mail to the author asking him to rename the application.
Best regards, Krzysztof
Inkscape-board mailing list Inkscape-board@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board
On 2015-10-19 02:29 (+0200), Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
Looks like the person renamed their app, since the link redirects to the main iTunes page. Can someone confirm that the app is renamed or gone? It looks like the app store cannot be searched without installing iTunes, which I obviously can't do on an Ubuntu machine.
Doesn't look like it's still available in the App Store - at least not under the name of the developer: https://itunes.apple.com/us/developer/fatih-dursun/id1029448222 (same results via web site as when searching for the developer in iTunes)
OTOH searching the web by name of the developer + iPad + vector has plenty of results which indicate that earlier versions (or maybe even the same app) had been marketing before, e.g. as
* Indesign illustrator Edition (2013): Indesign is a vector illustration app designed from scratch for the iPad. It supports paths, compound paths, ...
* illustrator iPad Edition (2014): Indesign is a vector illustration app designed from scratch for the iPad. It supports paths, compound paths, ...
* Inkscape (2015): Inkscape is a vector Inkscape app designed from scratch for the iPad. It supports paths, compound paths, ...
I somewhat doubt - based on those search results - that the latest attempt to reuse the name 'Inkscape' was "a good faith violation".
Regards, V
2015-10-09 23:17 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...23...>:
The author responded and said he will change the name. Let's give him a few days, say until 19th, before contacting Apple.
Best regards, Krzysztof
2015-10-08 21:37 GMT+02:00 Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...47...>:
On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 21:11 +0200, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
2015-10-08 19:09 GMT+02:00 Martin Owens <doctormo@...23...>:
Although having said that, they may not be in the USA and so not care too much about our trademark. If they can't change the name, then obvious we go to Apple next.
Given the content of the website, they appear to be from Turkey.
It looks like it could be using Inkscape code so we should check that too.
BTW, it was su_v on IRC who first reported it.
I sent an e-mail to the author asking him to rename the application.
Best regards, Krzysztof
Wow... thanks for doing the research work on it. Seriously, there is nothing resembling "good faith" with a history like that. *sigh*
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 6:42 PM, su_v <suv@...74...> wrote:
On 2015-10-19 02:29 (+0200), Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
Looks like the person renamed their app, since the link redirects to the main iTunes page. Can someone confirm that the app is renamed or gone? It looks like the app store cannot be searched without installing iTunes, which I obviously can't do on an Ubuntu machine.
Doesn't look like it's still available in the App Store - at least not under the name of the developer: https://itunes.apple.com/us/developer/fatih-dursun/id1029448222 (same results via web site as when searching for the developer in iTunes)
OTOH searching the web by name of the developer + iPad + vector has plenty of results which indicate that earlier versions (or maybe even the same app) had been marketing before, e.g. as
- Indesign illustrator Edition (2013):
Indesign is a vector illustration app designed from scratch for the iPad. It supports paths, compound paths, ...
- illustrator iPad Edition (2014):
Indesign is a vector illustration app designed from scratch for the iPad. It supports paths, compound paths, ...
- Inkscape (2015):
Inkscape is a vector Inkscape app designed from scratch for the iPad. It supports paths, compound paths, ...
I somewhat doubt - based on those search results - that the latest attempt to reuse the name 'Inkscape' was "a good faith violation".
Regards, V
2015-10-09 23:17 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...23...>:
The author responded and said he will change the name. Let's give him a few days, say until 19th, before contacting Apple.
Best regards, Krzysztof
2015-10-08 21:37 GMT+02:00 Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...47...>:
On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 21:11 +0200, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
2015-10-08 19:09 GMT+02:00 Martin Owens <doctormo@...23...>:
Although having said that, they may not be in the USA and so not care too much about our trademark. If they can't change the name, then obvious we go to Apple next.
Given the content of the website, they appear to be from Turkey.
It looks like it could be using Inkscape code so we should check that too.
BTW, it was su_v on IRC who first reported it.
I sent an e-mail to the author asking him to rename the application.
Best regards, Krzysztof
Inkscape-board mailing list Inkscape-board@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board
On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 20:34 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
Wow... thanks for doing the research work on it. Seriously, there is nothing resembling "good faith" with a history like that. *sigh*
That evidence is pretty compelling, although thanks to suv's alert it seems we quickly brought it to a close, no?
Martin,
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