GSoC Mentor Summit/Reunion
Hello Board,
TL;DR first: Does the board want to fund any additional delegates travel & room expenses for the reunion if we have anyone chosen by the lottery?
This year for the 10th anniversary of Summer of Code, Google is holding a special Mentor's Summit (Reunion) which is a little different than in the past. In addition to the normal 2 delegates we get to send where Google funds up to $2200 (up to $1100 per person) in travel expenses plus covering the room, they will hold a lottery for others to be able to attend as well (however, it is at their own expense as well as the room cost). The people eligible to attend the Reunion and enter the lottery are any of our previous GSoC participants (admins, mentors, as well as students).
I wanted to find out if the board would be in favor of funding the travel and room for anyone from our organization should we have anyone enter the lottery and be chosen. I have not brought this up to any of our previous participants yet for obvious reasons, but need to do so soon. One of the other things that is different this year is that we need to decide far in advance who will be attending. We need to have everything finalized by 6/20, so people responding to this soon would be appreciated.
Cheers, Josh
On Fri, May 16, 2014, at 07:26 AM, Josh Andler wrote:
Hello Board,
TL;DR first: Does the board want to fund any additional delegates travel & room expenses for the reunion if we have anyone chosen by the lottery?
This year for the 10th anniversary of Summer of Code, Google is holding a special Mentor's Summit (Reunion) which is a little different than in the past. In addition to the normal 2 delegates we get to send where Google funds up to $2200 (up to $1100 per person) in travel expenses plus covering the room, they will hold a lottery for others to be able to attend as well (however, it is at their own expense as well as the room cost). The people eligible to attend the Reunion and enter the lottery are any of our previous GSoC participants (admins, mentors, as well as students).
I wanted to find out if the board would be in favor of funding the travel and room for anyone from our organization should we have anyone enter the lottery and be chosen. I have not brought this up to any of our previous participants yet for obvious reasons, but need to do so soon. One of the other things that is different this year is that we need to decide far in advance who will be attending. We need to have everything finalized by 6/20, so people responding to this soon would be appreciated.
I'm in favor of funding potential lottery delegates.
I also would like to attend again, since it has been a while. However, I'd rank the priority as "like" and defer to others if needed.
-- Jon A. Cruz jon@...9...
I'm in favour, but as a likely recipient, I'm biased :)
njh
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 09:57:30AM -0700, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014, at 07:26 AM, Josh Andler wrote:
Hello Board,
TL;DR first: Does the board want to fund any additional delegates travel & room expenses for the reunion if we have anyone chosen by the lottery?
This year for the 10th anniversary of Summer of Code, Google is holding a special Mentor's Summit (Reunion) which is a little different than in the past. In addition to the normal 2 delegates we get to send where Google funds up to $2200 (up to $1100 per person) in travel expenses plus covering the room, they will hold a lottery for others to be able to attend as well (however, it is at their own expense as well as the room cost). The people eligible to attend the Reunion and enter the lottery are any of our previous GSoC participants (admins, mentors, as well as students).
I wanted to find out if the board would be in favor of funding the travel and room for anyone from our organization should we have anyone enter the lottery and be chosen. I have not brought this up to any of our previous participants yet for obvious reasons, but need to do so soon. One of the other things that is different this year is that we need to decide far in advance who will be attending. We need to have everything finalized by 6/20, so people responding to this soon would be appreciated.
I'm in favor of funding potential lottery delegates.
I also would like to attend again, since it has been a while. However, I'd rank the priority as "like" and defer to others if needed.
-- Jon A. Cruz jon@...9...
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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 07:26:37AM -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
Hello Board,
TL;DR first: Does the board want to fund any additional delegates travel & room expenses for the reunion if we have anyone chosen by the lottery?
This year for the 10th anniversary of Summer of Code, Google is holding a special Mentor's Summit (Reunion) which is a little different than in the past. In addition to the normal 2 delegates we get to send where Google funds up to $2200 (up to $1100 per person) in travel expenses plus covering the room, they will hold a lottery for others to be able to attend as well (however, it is at their own expense as well as the room cost). The people eligible to attend the Reunion and enter the lottery are any of our previous GSoC participants (admins, mentors, as well as students).
Do I understand correctly that the lottery is for an access pass, but doesn't cover travel or room costs? How many people do you think we're likely to get?
How much money per person would we be funding for this? Is it located in the Bay Area?
I wanted to find out if the board would be in favor of funding the travel and room for anyone from our organization should we have anyone enter the lottery and be chosen. I have not brought this up to any of our previous participants yet for obvious reasons, but need to do so soon. One of the other things that is different this year is that we need to decide far in advance who will be attending. We need to have everything finalized by 6/20, so people responding to this soon would be appreciated.
I think sending admins and mentors makes sense, particularly ones that have served multiple times and especially ones that have served recently. For students, if the student ended up becoming part of the Inkscape project and kept participating and contributing, that's a no brainer. But if the student is a drive-by contributor, well I think we could spend our money better.
Bryce
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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Bryce Harrington < bryce@...2...> wrote:
Do I understand correctly that the lottery is for an access pass, but doesn't cover travel or room costs? How many people do you think we're likely to get?
Yes, you understand correctly. I can't speak for likely numbers. That depends on interest within our project as well as luck of the lottery.
What I can tell you is that we have had basically ~3 people interested each year for the past couple years from our mentors and admins. Obviously this is a little different though since it doesn't have the requirement of participation this year.
The only thing I can supply is their estimate which is ~220 total lottery winners (there will otherwise be ~380 people funded to attend by Google). Their numbers are ~14,000 past participants (no clue if that includes people multiple times for multiple years).
How much money per person would we be funding for this? Is it located in the Bay Area?
That is a great Q. I have next to no experience with international travel, so I don't know what reasonable costs would be. My guess is that the up to $1100 for travel that Google does is probably based on something more than a guess. Yes, the reunion is located at the Google HQ in Mountain View, CA. The hotel rates for where they have deals (at 2 hotels I believe) is $129 a night and it's a 3 day event. Based on that, I would think something like up to $1500 for travel and room would be reasonable. Most of the money we have is from SoC, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to me at least.
I think sending admins and mentors makes sense, particularly ones that have served multiple times and especially ones that have served recently. For students, if the student ended up becoming part of the Inkscape project and kept participating and contributing, that's a no brainer. But if the student is a drive-by contributor, well I think we could spend our money better.
I feel the same way. It's worthwhile to reinvest in those who have invested so much into us. For those that did the drive-by, I don't really feel as compelled to make it happen. Perhaps we put a stipulation on who we would choose to fund such as they must have participated (and completed successfully) with us multiple years or otherwise continued contributing outside of GSoC?
Cheers, Josh
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:01:00PM -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Bryce Harrington < bryce@...2...> wrote: That is a great Q. I have next to no experience with international travel, so I don't know what reasonable costs would be. My guess is that the up to $1100 for travel that Google does is probably based on something more than a guess. Yes, the reunion is located at the Google HQ in Mountain View, CA. The hotel rates for where they have deals (at 2 hotels I believe) is $129 a night and it's a 3 day event. Based on that, I would think something like up to $1500 for travel and room would be reasonable. Most of the money we have is from SoC, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to me at least.
Yeah, especially for mentors who regularly contribute the $500 back to Inkscape, I think that's an easy 'yes' if they wish to go.
One thing to keep in mind though is that $1500 is about what it'd cost to send someone to LGM next year, so we should consider which would return more to the project. In the case of a GSoC admin, going to the GSoC event is a no-brainer; for someone that's more focused on graphics contributions, sending them to LGM or the Boston hackfest might be more rewarding for them.
I think sending admins and mentors makes sense, particularly ones that have served multiple times and especially ones that have served recently. For students, if the student ended up becoming part of the Inkscape project and kept participating and contributing, that's a no brainer. But if the student is a drive-by contributor, well I think we could spend our money better.
I feel the same way. It's worthwhile to reinvest in those who have invested so much into us. For those that did the drive-by, I don't really feel as compelled to make it happen. Perhaps we put a stipulation on who we would choose to fund such as they must have participated (and completed successfully) with us multiple years or otherwise continued contributing outside of GSoC?
What if we offered $1500 for people who have served as GSoC admins 2 or more years, $1000 for people who have mentored 2 or more years, and $500 for students that have continued contributing outside of GSoC?
Bryce
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...2...
wrote:
Yeah, especially for mentors who regularly contribute the $500 back to Inkscape, I think that's an easy 'yes' if they wish to go.
Agreed.
BTW, I was really hoping others would have chimed in by now... :-/
One thing to keep in mind though is that $1500 is about what it'd cost to send someone to LGM next year, so we should consider which would return more to the project. In the case of a GSoC admin, going to the GSoC event is a no-brainer; for someone that's more focused on graphics contributions, sending them to LGM or the Boston hackfest might be more rewarding for them.
This is a very good point. Something to consider, it looks like next year (2015) LGM will be in Toronto, so it is another event in North America in less than a year from the Reunion. Plus with a possible Boston hackfest, that makes for another possible NA event.
What if we offered $1500 for people who have served as GSoC admins 2 or more years, $1000 for people who have mentored 2 or more years, and $500 for students that have continued contributing outside of GSoC?
I think it seems fair, but would not be opposed to hearing from others. If we don't see any more suggestions or opposition, we should put put it up for a vote later this week. The 16th is the deadline to enter the lottery, so we want to at least give them a week to enter if possible should we vote to provide funding.
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 12:18 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...2...> wrote:
What if we offered $1500 for people who have served as GSoC admins 2 or more years, $1000 for people who have mentored 2 or more years, and $500 for students that have continued contributing outside of GSoC?I think it seems fair, but would not be opposed to hearing from others. If we don't see any more suggestions or opposition, we should put put it up for a vote later this week. The 16th is the deadline to enter the lottery, so we want to at least give them a week to enter if possible should we vote to provide funding.
Was more avoiding replying because I didn't have a better idea, but that sounds reasonable to me as well. To summarize: +1 ☺
Ted
On 3-6-2014 21:18, Josh Andler wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...2... mailto:bryce@...2...> wrote:
Yeah, especially for mentors who regularly contribute the $500 back to Inkscape, I think that's an easy 'yes' if they wish to go.Agreed.
BTW, I was really hoping others would have chimed in by now... :-/
I was not sure if I want to attend or not. Now, I actually would like to join (have never been), and so cannot really decide on this point (conflict of interest).
cheers, Johan
One thing to keep in mind though is that $1500 is about what it'd cost to send someone to LGM next year, so we should consider which would return more to the project. In the case of a GSoC admin, going to the GSoC event is a no-brainer; for someone that's more focused on graphics contributions, sending them to LGM or the Boston hackfest might be more rewarding for them.This is a very good point. Something to consider, it looks like next year (2015) LGM will be in Toronto, so it is another event in North America in less than a year from the Reunion. Plus with a possible Boston hackfest, that makes for another possible NA event.
What if we offered $1500 for people who have served as GSoC admins 2 or more years, $1000 for people who have mentored 2 or more years, and $500 for students that have continued contributing outside of GSoC?I think it seems fair, but would not be opposed to hearing from others. If we don't see any more suggestions or opposition, we should put put it up for a vote later this week. The 16th is the deadline to enter the lottery, so we want to at least give them a week to enter if possible should we vote to provide funding.
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 12:18:27PM -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...2...
wrote:
Yeah, especially for mentors who regularly contribute the $500 back to Inkscape, I think that's an easy 'yes' if they wish to go.
Agreed.
BTW, I was really hoping others would have chimed in by now... :-/
You might CC in any mentors or other non-board folk that might be interested. Even though they won't be voting, would be good to hear their perspective.
One thing to keep in mind though is that $1500 is about what it'd cost to send someone to LGM next year, so we should consider which would return more to the project. In the case of a GSoC admin, going to the GSoC event is a no-brainer; for someone that's more focused on graphics contributions, sending them to LGM or the Boston hackfest might be more rewarding for them.
This is a very good point. Something to consider, it looks like next year (2015) LGM will be in Toronto, so it is another event in North America in less than a year from the Reunion. Plus with a possible Boston hackfest, that makes for another possible NA event.
Are you thinking we're going to be heavily NA weighted for the next bit? Maybe to even things out we could look into funding something in europe some time in 2015.
The quantity of events also may be a concern. I haven't yet looked up what our income and expenses were for last year, but I'm going to guess something on the order of $10,000 give or take a few thousand either direction. So, using that WAG, $2-5k for 3 or 4 events a year seems within reason.
What if we offered $1500 for people who have served as GSoC admins 2 or more years, $1000 for people who have mentored 2 or more years, and $500 for students that have continued contributing outside of GSoC?
I think it seems fair, but would not be opposed to hearing from others. If we don't see any more suggestions or opposition, we should put put it up for a vote later this week. The 16th is the deadline to enter the lottery, so we want to at least give them a week to enter if possible should we vote to provide funding.
Okay. Can we count on you to be the event coordinator for this one, to be the point of contact for attendees and to collect expense info and so on? If so, I can take care of writing up the referendum and run it by you in the next day or two.
Bryce
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...2...> wrote:
You might CC in any mentors or other non-board folk that might be interested. Even though they won't be voting, would be good to hear their perspective.
Good suggestion, I will attempt to do so.
Are you thinking we're going to be heavily NA weighted for the next bit? Maybe to even things out we could look into funding something in europe some time in 2015.
The quantity of events also may be a concern. I haven't yet looked up what our income and expenses were for last year, but I'm going to guess something on the order of $10,000 give or take a few thousand either direction. So, using that WAG, $2-5k for 3 or 4 events a year seems within reason.
Yeah, we're definitely a bit NA weighted for the next short period. They have already decided that LGM in 2016 will be in London, so it's good for us to just be aware of that. There's part of me that wonders if LGM 2015 could tie into the possible Boston hackfest given the close relative proximity geographically and IMHO it being a good idea to limit the number of events we have (at least at this stage and with the current size of our dev community). I'm definitely not opposed to the Boston event being a completely separate event, we just might have an opportunity to get a few more people there with LGM tied in.
Okay. Can we count on you to be the event coordinator for this one, to be the point of contact for attendees and to collect expense info and so on? If so, I can take care of writing up the referendum and run it by you in the next day or two.
Yes, I will be the event coordinator on this one. Thank you for offering to write up the referendum.
Cheers, Josh
On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 07:26 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
TL;DR first: Does the board want to fund any additional delegates travel & room expenses for the reunion if we have anyone chosen by the lottery?
I wanted to add to consideration the plan from Libre Graphics to run an EU and US hackfest after the 0.91 release sometime in September, October or November.
This is obviously an unplanned even so far, but I'd like to put it here so we can balance it's possible interests against the GSoC event.
I'm willing to set up the US event here in Boston at MIT.
Martin,
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 03:14:24PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 07:26 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
TL;DR first: Does the board want to fund any additional delegates travel & room expenses for the reunion if we have anyone chosen by the lottery?
I wanted to add to consideration the plan from Libre Graphics to run an EU and US hackfest after the 0.91 release sometime in September, October or November.
This is obviously an unplanned even so far, but I'd like to put it here so we can balance it's possible interests against the GSoC event.
I'm willing to set up the US event here in Boston at MIT.
Martin,
Hey Martin,
I wanted to check back on this hackfest idea and see if it's still in the plans, given that we're getting near to the timeframe you mentioned?
Regardless, I think a hackfest is a great idea if we can put one together, and if it can't be done this fall perhaps we should start the legwork of arranging one for 2015 someplace.
Bryce
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 17:11 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Regardless, I think a hackfest is a great idea if we can put one together, and if it can't be done this fall perhaps we should start the legwork of arranging one for 2015 someplace.
Our requirements aren't huge. But I believe time constraints for everyone who would like to be involved is key.
I know of websites that allow everyone to specify when they are available, but not any specifically. We could collect people's availability and work on a plan from there?
Martin,
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:36:27PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 17:11 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Regardless, I think a hackfest is a great idea if we can put one together, and if it can't be done this fall perhaps we should start the legwork of arranging one for 2015 someplace.
Our requirements aren't huge. But I believe time constraints for everyone who would like to be involved is key.
I know of websites that allow everyone to specify when they are available, but not any specifically. We could collect people's availability and work on a plan from there?
Perhaps pick 3-4 candidate timeframes and let people indicate which they'd be able to do? How many days total should be planned for?
Bryce
I just wanted to re-iterate it's worth throwing out something coinciding with LGM 2015 (Toronto), which is end of April 2015 as one of the candidates. This could be a multi-purpose trip to NA for those overseas and potentially improve our presence at LGM and a hackfest.
Cheers, Josh
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...2...> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:36:27PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 17:11 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Regardless, I think a hackfest is a great idea if we can put one together, and if it can't be done this fall perhaps we should start the legwork of arranging one for 2015 someplace.
Our requirements aren't huge. But I believe time constraints for everyone who would like to be involved is key.
I know of websites that allow everyone to specify when they are available, but not any specifically. We could collect people's availability and work on a plan from there?
Perhaps pick 3-4 candidate timeframes and let people indicate which they'd be able to do? How many days total should be planned for?
Bryce
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 22:20 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
I just wanted to re-iterate it's worth throwing out something coinciding with LGM 2015 (Toronto), which is end of April 2015 as one of the candidates. This could be a multi-purpose trip to NA for those overseas and potentially improve our presence at LGM and a hackfest.
+1
Tav
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 22:20 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
I just wanted to re-iterate it's worth throwing out something coinciding with LGM 2015 (Toronto), which is end of April 2015 as one of the candidates. This could be a multi-purpose trip to NA for those overseas and potentially improve our presence at LGM and a hackfest.
I must concede this looks like a good option. So the problem is, I have much better handle over Boston than Torronto regarding space etc. Does anyone think it's a good idea to hold the hackfest before/after in Boston and arrange transport to torronto?
Martin,
On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 10:14 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 22:20 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
I just wanted to re-iterate it's worth throwing out something coinciding with LGM 2015 (Toronto), which is end of April 2015 as one of the candidates. This could be a multi-purpose trip to NA for those overseas and potentially improve our presence at LGM and a hackfest.
I must concede this looks like a good option. So the problem is, I have much better handle over Boston than Torronto regarding space etc. Does anyone think it's a good idea to hold the hackfest before/after in Boston and arrange transport to torronto?
A quick check shows that a triangle trip (Paris->Toronto-Boston->Paris) is only about $100 more than a round trip (Paris->Toronto->Paris)
I think having a good place to work and reasonably priced accommodations are more important.
Tav
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...47...> wrote:
I think having a good place to work and reasonably priced accommodations are more important.
+1
We should also try to figure out the length, given that coinciding with another event already means time away from home. Something like 2 or 3 days?
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 10:12 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
We should also try to figure out the length, given that coinciding with another event already means time away from home. Something like 2 or 3 days?
3 days is decent, that was the size of the LibreOffice hackfest over at the Zemian HQ.
Martin,
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 22:20 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
I just wanted to re-iterate it's worth throwing out something coinciding with LGM 2015 (Toronto), which is end of April 2015 as one of the candidates. This could be a multi-purpose trip to NA for those overseas and potentially improve our presence at LGM and a hackfest.
There is a Mozilla office in Toronto that has been welcoming to other free software hackers in the past, we might be able to ask them if we could have the hacking part of the hackfest there. Probably depends on the number of people, I'm not sure how much space they have.
Ted
On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 07:26 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
Hello Board,
TL;DR first: Does the board want to fund any additional delegates travel & room expenses for the reunion if we have anyone chosen by the lottery?
First, let me say that having attended the last two GSoC mentor summits that they are worth attending for anyone who is going to be administering or mentoring in future years. I am also interested in attending this year as it might allow me to attend TPAC, the yearly gathering of all W3C working groups including the SVG and CSS working groups which is the week after in Santa Clara.
But if I weigh the value to Inkscape of sending developers to the GSoC mentor summit or spending the money to send them to LGM or a hackfest, the latter clearly win out. The GSoC summit is a whirlwind of activity, you are in, attend sessions with other open source projects (many you will never have heard of), eat lots of food, and then are gone. There is no real time for anything else. The LGM is a more leisurely meeting with plenty of time for discussions with other Inkscapers and with others working on graphics software as well as a bit of hacking. A hackfest would even be better. Combining LGM with a hackfest in Boston sounds really good.
Tav
PS. How much is in our kitty?
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 07:42:12PM +0200, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 07:26 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
Hello Board,
TL;DR first: Does the board want to fund any additional delegates travel & room expenses for the reunion if we have anyone chosen by the lottery?
First, let me say that having attended the last two GSoC mentor summits that they are worth attending for anyone who is going to be administering or mentoring in future years. I am also interested in attending this year as it might allow me to attend TPAC, the yearly gathering of all W3C working groups including the SVG and CSS working groups which is the week after in Santa Clara.
But if I weigh the value to Inkscape of sending developers to the GSoC mentor summit or spending the money to send them to LGM or a hackfest, the latter clearly win out. The GSoC summit is a whirlwind of activity, you are in, attend sessions with other open source projects (many you will never have heard of), eat lots of food, and then are gone. There is no real time for anything else. The LGM is a more leisurely meeting with plenty of time for discussions with other Inkscapers and with others working on graphics software as well as a bit of hacking. A hackfest would even be better. Combining LGM with a hackfest in Boston sounds really good.
Tav
PS. How much is in our kitty?
At last count, $33,219.94
So at a burn rate of $10k that assures us conference funding for at least three years.
What we really need to know is what amount of yearly income we get, but I'll need to study how to use ledger-cli before I can answer that. (At least, I now have access to the data!)
Bryce
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 19:42 +0200, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
Combining LGM with a hackfest in Boston sounds really good.
This sounds very interesting, although I quite fancy a trip home (to London or wherever) if LGM will be in London.
Not sure how this complicates things. Maybe I can clone myself ;-)
Martin,
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 23:29 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 19:42 +0200, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
Combining LGM with a hackfest in Boston sounds really good.
This sounds very interesting, although I quite fancy a trip home (to London or wherever) if LGM will be in London.
Not sure how this complicates things. Maybe I can clone myself ;-)
Martin,
Next year's LGM is in Toronto... so a a hackfest in Boston just after would mean those attending both from outside of North America would be making one long distance trip. The 2016 LGM is in London.
Tav
On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 07:18 +0200, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
Next year's LGM is in Toronto... so a a hackfest in Boston just after would mean those attending both from outside of North America would be making one long distance trip. The 2016 LGM is in London.
I can't tell you how much relief that gives me :-)
If toronto, then perfectly possible to do a second leg or zeroth leg, in Boston.
Martin,
On 5-6-2014 21:14, Martin Owens wrote:
On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 07:18 +0200, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
Next year's LGM is in Toronto... so a a hackfest in Boston just after would mean those attending both from outside of North America would be making one long distance trip. The 2016 LGM is in London.
I can't tell you how much relief that gives me :-)
If toronto, then perfectly possible to do a second leg or zeroth leg, in Boston.
This does sound pretty awesome :)
-Johan
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 07:18:43AM +0200, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 23:29 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 19:42 +0200, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
Combining LGM with a hackfest in Boston sounds really good.
This sounds very interesting, although I quite fancy a trip home (to London or wherever) if LGM will be in London.
Not sure how this complicates things. Maybe I can clone myself ;-)
Martin,
Next year's LGM is in Toronto... so a a hackfest in Boston just after would mean those attending both from outside of North America would be making one long distance trip. The 2016 LGM is in London.
I think this is a great idea, to align the two events. I bet it would get better attendance as well.
If we broaden the definition of the hackfest to include cairo and skia, I should have no problem getting my employer to cover my own travel costs for both as work-related.
Martin, could you draft some rough thoughts (in wiki maybe?) about what the hackfest would look like, to expand in a bit more detail on your original proposal? I.e. where might we do it (and how much that'd cost), how many people to plan for, how many days, range of costs for hotels in the area, and any other associated costs we'd want to plan for?
Also, would we leave the hacking time unstructured, or would we perhaps include training sessions at the start or debrief talks at the end or somesuch?
Bryce
Hi Bryce,
I've put together a wiki page to organise it and I've sent a message to SIBP to get the ball rolling on the venue:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015
Best Regards, Martin Owens
Martin, could you draft some rough thoughts (in wiki maybe?) about what the hackfest would look like, to expand in a bit more detail on your original proposal? I.e. where might we do it (and how much that'd cost), how many people to plan for, how many days, range of costs for hotels in the area, and any other associated costs we'd want to plan for?
Also, would we leave the hacking time unstructured, or would we perhaps include training sessions at the start or debrief talks at the end or somesuch?
Bryce
participants (8)
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Bryce Harrington -
Johan Engelen -
Jon A. Cruz -
Josh Andler -
Martin Owens -
Nathan Hurst -
Tavmjong Bah -
Ted Gould