For what it's worth I also prefer a px-based default template.
* For digital art it makes the most sense as Tyler noted.
* For stuff that's intended to be used "on paper" it does not break
anything and can in fact even avoid incompatibilities due to the
viewbox scaling. Also it feels more natural to make a line 1or 2 px
wide (which are useful widths for me in everyday use) instead of
fiddling with fractional millimeters. If I need mm-based sizes I can
also still use them where necessary.
On a related note I'm not even sure our default size of A4 is overly
useful. I've yet to create content in Inkscape that would need an A4
size... For me it's either digital artwork which has some even pixel
size or I'm creating graphics that are put on A4 paper and therefore
need to be smaller anyway (e.g. ~ 8cm wide to fill one column). So,
while we need some default (which might just as well be A4) I don't
think we should assume users actually create A4 content and base our
decision on that.
Regards,
Eduard
Am 20.09.2017 um 16:00 schrieb Tyler Durden:
I see no downside to having all releases/localizations use px as
display units and scale=1.
AFAICT, it breaks nothing, which cannot be said for other current
defaults. Everything works and no gymnastics trying to explain units
and scale to the non-technically inclined.
Even the newest users can understand how to set the document to their
preferred display units. No need for typical users to change scale.
Simple rationale: svg is a web format, hence default.svg units = px.
Thanks,
TD
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:47 AM, brynn <brynn@...3133...
<mailto:brynn@...3133...>> wrote:
Oh, I didn't know about these templates!
However, I think it's better for users to know how to use the
interface, rather than use a template which only sets up the
units, and not the page size (unless you happen to want an A4 page).
I'm not clear what you mean by this:
The one thing you cannot do, however, is modify the document
units after
Inkscape has opened the startup file.
If you know how to change the units (as I've just learned how to
do it correctly) can't they be changed? Or do you mean that the
user would have to save a new template if they change the units?
I'm just writing the new FAQ item right now, so I'll include this
info about the templates too. But need to understand that last
statement (above).
Thanks Alvin :-)
-----Original Message----- From: alvinpenner
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 6:29 AM
To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net
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Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] the Scale setting and Display units
It may be worth mentioning that you can choose the document units
that you
prefer when you start up Inkscape. If you use the startup template
file
C:\Program Files (x86)\Inkscape\share\templates\default.svg (which
is the
default), then you will find that the document units are mm. You
can confirm
this by drawing a rectangle that has the width of the full page
and then
using the XML editor to confirm that the width has been expressed
in mm. A
typical example would be
<rect
style="..."
id="rect10"
width="210.91072" (should be 210, my hand was shaky)
height="88.446426"
x="0"
y="0.66666663" />
If you prefer to use px as the document units, then use the
template file
C:\Program Files (x86)\Inkscape\share\templates\default_px.svg. In
this case
if you draw a rectangle that has the full width of an A4 page you
will get:
<rect
style="..."
id="rect18"
width="797.14288" (should be 793.7007, which is 210mm
expressed in
px)
height="357.14285"
x="0"
y="2.519685" />
If you prefer to use pt as document units, then use the template file
default_pt.svg
If you want to permanently modify the startup units, then copy a
file like
default_pt.svg to overwrite the file default.svg. (after first
making a
backup, just in case.)
The one thing you cannot do, however, is modify the document units
after
Inkscape has opened the startup file.
hth,
Alvin
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