On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, bulia byak wrote:
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:13:43 -0400 From: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> Cc: Inkscape is a vector graphics editor inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape 0.44 Hard Freeze
On 6/2/06, Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> wrote:
Adobe Illustrator uses "Effect".
So what?
Why do differently?
As I said in my previous post I had understood Inkscape was going to do the same or better and not just different for the sake of it (embrace and extend works). I had hoped I wouldn't have to argue points of consistency like this everytime, else Inkscape will go the way of the GNU Image Manipulation Program where user experience becomes like a death of a thousand cuts with each and every little inconsistency adding up.
I really don't get it. "Effects" sounds perfectly logical because it what we have in that menu.
Please provide another reason than precedence. It hasn't been that way for very long and I have asked for it to be changed since very shortly after it was put in place. Precendence shouldn't be an issue at all at least until there has been a stable supported Inkscape 1.0 and show users of your intention to keep things stable, otherwise everything should be up for change.
"Effect" would imply that there are certain "effect objects" in the document,
Would it really? I disagree.
that one of them may be current, and that the commands in this menu operate on that current effect. All of these assumptions are true for layers, objects, and paths, but none of them is true for effects.
However I pointed out Inkscape (and many other programs) have: File not Files, Edit not Edits, Layer not Layers, View not Views. These are verbs not nouns/objects which is what underlies your assumptions.
It may not be the most reputable source but here is what I found in Wikipedia: "According to traditional human interface guidelines, menu names were always supposed to be verbs, such as "file" "edit" and so on[citation needed]. This has been largely ignored in subsequent UI developments." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menu_%28computing%29
[Parnoia Note: You can check the history, I have never edited that page, not yet anyway.]
Therefore we have "Layer", "Object", "Path"
As I have mentioned before there shouldn't be a Path menu either. Paths should be covered under objects and treating them otherwise is an implementation detail users shouldn't be burdened with.
I'm against this change.
Even if you are against the change of Effects to Effect you should certainly be in favour of adding the mnemonic to Effe_cts before releasing Inkscape with effects turned on by default.