Ok, I prepare a commit soon with dependent toolbar hides. Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 14:38 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Regarding Ellipse/Circle and Selector Tools, that gets into hiding stuff that should be visible by default. With the Spray Tool example, the toggles that are hidden are effectively dependent on the "parent" feature being enabled in the first place.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Ok, Tav. Anyway, hidding it from toolbar actions like the first patch/video?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 19:49 +0100, Tavmjong Bah escribió:
On Wed, 2016-01-27 at 18:03 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Another view with select tool:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7446/
Cheers, Jabier.
I think hiding things when its not really necessary for space reasons is not such a good idea as it makes discoverability more difficult.
Tav
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in the UI?
Cheers, Josh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arrai za@...1367... ar ke r.es> wrote:
Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected element, ex: full circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like currently?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió: > I don't think there is any benefit to styling them > differently. > None > of > those options are applicable if that base functionality > isn't > toggled > on. > If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you > would > need > to > long-click the icon because would allow you to change the > default > state of > that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in > Scribus > if > you > long-click on the icons they have for things like shape > tools. > > Just my .02 > > Cheers, > Josh > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz > < > jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote: > > > First of all sorry for the wrong suject. > > > > I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in > > the > > video > > coments. > > He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a > > first > > review we > > have two options: Style the buttons diferently, > > probabily > > the > > border > > -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the > > icon > > of > > the > > button. > > > > What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea? > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann > > escribió: > > > Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza: > > > > And a little video working for people couldent > > > > compile. > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ > > > > > > Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very > > > much! > > > (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) ) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Maren > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier > > > > Arraiza > > > > escribió: > > > > > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget > > > > > dinamic. > > > > > Currently > > > > > in > > > > > Spray Tool. > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/ > > > > > > > > > > Feedback are welcome. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir > > > > > Savic > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we > > > > > > should > > > > > > really > > > > > > watch > > > > > > out that > > > > > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier > > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > > <jabier.arraiz > > > > > > a@...3326... > > > > > > rk > > > > > > er.es> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove > > > > > > > widgets > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > fly > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > selected. > > > > > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, > > > > > > > Vladimir > > > > > > > Savic > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > toolbox. > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > are, > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > usability point of view, two possible but > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > trivial to > > > > > > > > implement > > > > > > > > solutions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > > > > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. > > > > > > > > Similar > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > path > > > > > > > > tool > > > > > > > > modes > > > > > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > settings > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > other tools that could benefit from this > > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > > For > > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > Mash > > > > > > > > gradient > > > > > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. > > > > > > > > Erase > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > knife > > > > > > > > (similar > > > > > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand > > > > > > > > erase > > > > > > > > (what > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > currently > > > > > > > > have) > > > > > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have > > > > > > > > proposed > > > > > > > > already). > > > > > > > > Any > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > have different options. Erase must have at > > > > > > > > least > > > > > > > > Width > > > > > > > > slider, > > > > > > > > Knife > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de > > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > > rectos, > > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish > > > > > > > > names > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > screen. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier > > > > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > > > @m > > > > > > > > arke > > > > > > > > r.es> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, > > > > > > > > > Brynn > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but > > > > > > > > > > ¿Is > > > > > > > > > > enought > > > > > > > > > > interesant > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > boolean > > > > > > > > > > operations, > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > proyect > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > on, > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > > > > > > path/boolean. 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