Re: [Inkscape-devel] Toolvar dinamic
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3301..... er.es> wrote:
Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the fly from toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is selected. Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Hi Jabier,
I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. There are, from usability point of view, two possible but not so trivial to implement solutions:
- Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar
- Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to path tool
modes (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings that change depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because there are other other tools that could benefit from this change. For example, Mash gradient and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could have knife (similar to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what we currently have) and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). Any of those should have different options. Erase must have at least Width slider, Knife should offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos rectos, segmentos paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from screen. :)
Regards, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3314...67... arke r.es> wrote:
Yes, one more icon :)
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió:
"Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought interesant to get some toolbox pixels?
There is a problem on open paths also in boolean operations, not only in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the proyect go on, we try to solve this open path problem.
Cheers, Jabier."
Thanks for the info about open path/boolean. Several "mysteries" solved by that comment :-)
I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do you mean that the toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for another icon/button?
Or is something technical that goes over my head?
All best, brynn
From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code (GSoC) 2016 - Call for mentors & help with ideas page
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And a little video working for people couldent compile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3327...6... rk er.es> wrote:
Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the fly from toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is selected. Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Hi Jabier,
I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. There are, from usability point of view, two possible but not so trivial to implement solutions:
- Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar
- Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to path tool
modes (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings that change depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because there are other other tools that could benefit from this change. For example, Mash gradient and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could have knife (similar to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what we currently have) and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). Any of those should have different options. Erase must have at least Width slider, Knife should offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos rectos, segmentos paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from screen. :)
Regards, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza @m arke r.es> wrote:
Yes, one more icon :)
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió:
"Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought interesant to get some toolbox pixels?
There is a problem on open paths also in boolean operations, not only in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the proyect go on, we try to solve this open path problem.
Cheers, Jabier."
Thanks for the info about open path/boolean. Several "mysteries" solved by that comment :-)
I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do you mean that the toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for another icon/button?
Or is something technical that goes over my head?
All best, brynn
From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code (GSoC) 2016 - Call for mentors & help with ideas page
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Not giving a code review, but compiled and tested real and I personally think it's excellent from a UX perpective. Don't even show the options if they're not applicable rather than them being grayed out and the user not knowing why.
Cheers, Josh
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:10 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...837...326... rk er.es> wrote:
Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the fly from toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is selected. Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Hi Jabier,
I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. There are, from usability point of view, two possible but not so trivial to implement solutions:
- Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar
- Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to path tool
modes (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings that change depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because there are other other tools that could benefit from this change. For example, Mash gradient and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could have knife (similar to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what we currently have) and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). Any of those should have different options. Erase must have at least Width slider, Knife should offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos rectos, segmentos paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from screen. :)
Regards, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza @m arke r.es> wrote:
Yes, one more icon :)
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió: > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought > interesant > to > get > some > toolbox pixels? > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean > operations, > not > only > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the proyect go > on, > we > try > to > solve this open path problem. > > Cheers, Jabier." > > Thanks for the info about open path/boolean. Several > "mysteries" > solved by > that comment :-) > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do > you mean > that > the > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for another > icon/button? > > Or is something technical that goes over my head? > > All best, > brynn > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code (GSoC) > 2016 - > Call for > mentors & help with ideas page > > >
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Thank for testing and review!
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 18:20 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Not giving a code review, but compiled and tested real and I personally think it's excellent from a UX perpective. Don't even show the options if they're not applicable rather than them being grayed out and the user not knowing why.
Cheers, Josh
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:10 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3313... r.es> wrote:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiz a@...3326... rk er.es> wrote:
Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the fly from toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is selected. Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Hi Jabier,
I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. There are, from usability point of view, two possible but not so trivial to implement solutions:
- Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar
- Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to path
tool modes (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings that change depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because there are other other tools that could benefit from this change. For example, Mash gradient and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could have knife (similar to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what we currently have) and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). Any of those should have different options. Erase must have at least Width slider, Knife should offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos rectos, segmentos paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from screen. :)
Regards, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza @m arke r.es> wrote:
> Yes, one more icon :) > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió: > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought > > interesant > > to > > get > > some > > toolbox pixels? > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean > > operations, > > not > > only > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the proyect > > go > > on, > > we > > try > > to > > solve this open path problem. > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > Thanks for the info about open path/boolean. Several > > "mysteries" > > solved by > > that comment :-) > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do > > you mean > > that > > the > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for > > another > > icon/button? > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my head? > > > > All best, > > brynn > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...3311... > > es> > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code > > (GSoC) > > 2016 - > > Call for > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > ---- > ------------- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > Application > Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > actions > now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > Signup > Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&i > u=/4 > 14 > 0 > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-dev > el >
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Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3327...6... rk er.es> wrote:
Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the fly from toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is selected. Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Hi Jabier,
I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. There are, from usability point of view, two possible but not so trivial to implement solutions:
- Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar
- Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to path tool
modes (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings that change depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because there are other other tools that could benefit from this change. For example, Mash gradient and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could have knife (similar to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what we currently have) and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). Any of those should have different options. Erase must have at least Width slider, Knife should offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos rectos, segmentos paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from screen. :)
Regards, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza @m arke r.es> wrote:
Yes, one more icon :)
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió: > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought > interesant > to > get > some > toolbox pixels? > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean > operations, > not > only > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the proyect go > on, > we > try > to > solve this open path problem. > > Cheers, Jabier." > > Thanks for the info about open path/boolean. Several > "mysteries" > solved by > that comment :-) > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do > you mean > that > the > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for another > icon/button? > > Or is something technical that goes over my head? > > All best, > brynn > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code (GSoC) > 2016 - > Call for > mentors & help with ideas page > > >
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Thanks Maren!
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiz a@...3326... rk er.es> wrote:
Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the fly from toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is selected. Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Hi Jabier,
I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. There are, from usability point of view, two possible but not so trivial to implement solutions:
- Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar
- Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to path
tool modes (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings that change depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because there are other other tools that could benefit from this change. For example, Mash gradient and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could have knife (similar to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what we currently have) and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). Any of those should have different options. Erase must have at least Width slider, Knife should offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos rectos, segmentos paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from screen. :)
Regards, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza @m arke r.es> wrote:
> Yes, one more icon :) > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió: > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought > > interesant > > to > > get > > some > > toolbox pixels? > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean > > operations, > > not > > only > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the proyect > > go > > on, > > we > > try > > to > > solve this open path problem. > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > Thanks for the info about open path/boolean. Several > > "mysteries" > > solved by > > that comment :-) > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do > > you mean > > that > > the > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for > > another > > icon/button? > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my head? > > > > All best, > > brynn > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...3311... > > es> > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code > > (GSoC) > > 2016 - > > Call for > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > ---- > ------------- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > Application > Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > actions > now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > Signup > Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&i > u=/4 > 14 > 0 > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-dev > el >
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First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments. He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the button.
What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiz a@...3326... rk er.es> wrote:
Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the fly from toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is selected. Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Hi Jabier,
I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. There are, from usability point of view, two possible but not so trivial to implement solutions:
- Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar
- Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to path
tool modes (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings that change depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because there are other other tools that could benefit from this change. For example, Mash gradient and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could have knife (similar to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what we currently have) and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). Any of those should have different options. Erase must have at least Width slider, Knife should offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos rectos, segmentos paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from screen. :)
Regards, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza @m arke r.es> wrote:
> Yes, one more icon :) > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió: > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought > > interesant > > to > > get > > some > > toolbox pixels? > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean > > operations, > > not > > only > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the proyect > > go > > on, > > we > > try > > to > > solve this open path problem. > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > Thanks for the info about open path/boolean. Several > > "mysteries" > > solved by > > that comment :-) > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do > > you mean > > that > > the > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for > > another > > icon/button? > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my head? > > > > All best, > > brynn > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...3311... > > es> > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code > > (GSoC) > > 2016 - > > Call for > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > ---- > ------------- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > Application > Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > actions > now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > Signup > Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&i > u=/4 > 14 > 0 > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-dev > el >
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I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.
Just my .02
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments. He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the button.
What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiz a@...3326... rk er.es> wrote:
Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the fly from toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is selected. Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió: > Hi Jabier, > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. > There > are, > from > usability point of view, two possible but not so trivial to > implement > solutions: > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to path > tool > modes > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings that > change > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because > there > are > other > other tools that could benefit from this change. For > example, > Mash > gradient > and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could > have > knife > (similar > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what we > currently > have) > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). Any > of > those > should > have different options. Erase must have at least Width > slider, > Knife > should > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos rectos, > segmentos > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from > screen. :) > > Regards, > Vlada > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza > <jabier.arraiza > @m > arke > r.es> > wrote: > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió: > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought > > > interesant > > > to > > > get > > > some > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean > > > operations, > > > not > > > only > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the proyect > > > go > > > on, > > > we > > > try > > > to > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open path/boolean. Several > > > "mysteries" > > > solved by > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do > > > you mean > > > that > > > the > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for > > > another > > > icon/button? > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my head? > > > > > > All best, > > > brynn > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...3311... > > > es> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code > > > (GSoC) > > > 2016 - > > > Call for > > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > ---- > > ------------- > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > Application > > Performance > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > > $35/Month > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > > actions > > now > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > > Signup > > Now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&i > > u=/4 > > 14 > > 0 > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-dev > > el > >
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Ok Thanks for your feedback!
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.
Just my .02
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments. He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the button.
What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiz a@...3326... rk er.es> wrote:
> Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the > fly > from > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is > selected. > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic > escribió: > > Hi Jabier, > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. > > There > > are, > > from > > usability point of view, two possible but not so > > trivial to > > implement > > solutions: > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to > > path > > tool > > modes > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings > > that > > change > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because > > there > > are > > other > > other tools that could benefit from this change. For > > example, > > Mash > > gradient > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could > > have > > knife > > (similar > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what > > we > > currently > > have) > > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). > > Any > > of > > those > > should > > have different options. Erase must have at least Width > > slider, > > Knife > > should > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos > > rectos, > > segmentos > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from > > screen. :) > > > > Regards, > > Vlada > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > <jabier.arraiza > > @m > > arke > > r.es> > > wrote: > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió: > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought > > > > interesant > > > > to > > > > get > > > > some > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean > > > > operations, > > > > not > > > > only > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the > > > > proyect > > > > go > > > > on, > > > > we > > > > try > > > > to > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > "mysteries" > > > > solved by > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do > > > > you mean > > > > that > > > > the > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for > > > > another > > > > icon/button? > > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my head? > > > > > > > > All best, > > > > brynn > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...3286...... > > > > ker. > > > > es> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > > > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code > > > > (GSoC) > > > > 2016 - > > > > Call for > > > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > ------ > > > ---- > > > ------------- > > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > > Application > > > Performance > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at > > > just > > > $35/Month > > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take > > > corrective > > > actions > > > now > > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > > > Signup > > > Now! > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=2673083 > > > 11&i > > > u=/4 > > > 14 > > > 0 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape > > > -dev > > > el > > > >
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Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected element, ex: full circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like currently?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.
Just my .02
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments. He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the button.
What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió:
Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should really watch out that toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :)
Cheers, Vlada
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiz a@...3326... rk er.es> wrote:
> Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the > fly > from > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is > selected. > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic > escribió: > > Hi Jabier, > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. > > There > > are, > > from > > usability point of view, two possible but not so > > trivial to > > implement > > solutions: > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to > > path > > tool > > modes > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings > > that > > change > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because > > there > > are > > other > > other tools that could benefit from this change. For > > example, > > Mash > > gradient > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could > > have > > knife > > (similar > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what > > we > > currently > > have) > > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). > > Any > > of > > those > > should > > have different options. Erase must have at least Width > > slider, > > Knife > > should > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos > > rectos, > > segmentos > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from > > screen. :) > > > > Regards, > > Vlada > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > <jabier.arraiza > > @m > > arke > > r.es> > > wrote: > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió: > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought > > > > interesant > > > > to > > > > get > > > > some > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean > > > > operations, > > > > not > > > > only > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the > > > > proyect > > > > go > > > > on, > > > > we > > > > try > > > > to > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > "mysteries" > > > > solved by > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do > > > > you mean > > > > that > > > > the > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for > > > > another > > > > icon/button? > > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my head? > > > > > > > > All best, > > > > brynn > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...3286...... > > > > ker. > > > > es> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > > > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code > > > > (GSoC) > > > > 2016 - > > > > Call for > > > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > ------ > > > ---- > > > ------------- > > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > > Application > > > Performance > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at > > > just > > > $35/Month > > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take > > > corrective > > > actions > > > now > > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > > > Signup > > > Now! > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=2673083 > > > 11&i > > > u=/4 > > > 14 > > > 0 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape > > > -dev > > > el > > > >
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Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in the UI?
Cheers, Josh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected element, ex: full circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like currently?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.
Just my .02
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments. He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the button.
What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió:
This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget dinamic. Currently in Spray Tool. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/
Feedback are welcome.
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic escribió: > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should > really > watch > out that > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > Cheers, > Vlada > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza > <jabier.arraiz > a@...3326... > rk > er.es> > wrote: > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on the > > fly > > from > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, is > > selected. > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic > > escribió: > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in toolbox. > > > There > > > are, > > > from > > > usability point of view, two possible but not so > > > trivial to > > > implement > > > solutions: > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar to > > > path > > > tool > > > modes > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other settings > > > that > > > change > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one because > > > there > > > are > > > other > > > other tools that could benefit from this change. For > > > example, > > > Mash > > > gradient > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase could > > > have > > > knife > > > (similar > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase (what > > > we > > > currently > > > have) > > > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed already). > > > Any > > > of > > > those > > > should > > > have different options. Erase must have at least Width > > > slider, > > > Knife > > > should > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos > > > rectos, > > > segmentos > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names from > > > screen. :) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Vlada > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > @m > > > arke > > > r.es> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn escribió: > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is enought > > > > > interesant > > > > > to > > > > > get > > > > > some > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in boolean > > > > > operations, > > > > > not > > > > > only > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the > > > > > proyect > > > > > go > > > > > on, > > > > > we > > > > > try > > > > > to > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > > "mysteries" > > > > > solved by > > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox pixels". Do > > > > > you mean > > > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room for > > > > > another > > > > > icon/button? > > > > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my head? > > > > > > > > > > All best, > > > > > brynn > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza@...3262...85... > > > > > ker. > > > > > es> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > > > > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code > > > > > (GSoC) > > > > > 2016 - > > > > > Call for > > > > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > ---- > > > > ------ > > > > ---- > > > > ------------- > > > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > > > Application > > > > Performance > > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at > > > > just > > > > $35/Month > > > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take > > > > corrective > > > > actions > > > > now > > > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > > > > Signup > > > > Now! > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=2673083 > > > > 11&i > > > > u=/4 > > > > 14 > > > > 0 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape > > > > -dev > > > > el > > > > > >
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https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7441/
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in the UI?
Cheers, Josh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3313... r.es> wrote:
Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected element, ex: full circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like currently?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.
Just my .02
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments. He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the button.
What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió: > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget > dinamic. > Currently > in > Spray Tool. > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/ > > Feedback are welcome. > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic > escribió: > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should > > really > > watch > > out that > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > > > Cheers, > > Vlada > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > <jabier.arraiz > > a@...3326... > > rk > > er.es> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on > > > the > > > fly > > > from > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, > > > is > > > selected. > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic > > > escribió: > > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in > > > > toolbox. > > > > There > > > > are, > > > > from > > > > usability point of view, two possible but not so > > > > trivial to > > > > implement > > > > solutions: > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar > > > > to > > > > path > > > > tool > > > > modes > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other > > > > settings > > > > that > > > > change > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one > > > > because > > > > there > > > > are > > > > other > > > > other tools that could benefit from this change. > > > > For > > > > example, > > > > Mash > > > > gradient > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase > > > > could > > > > have > > > > knife > > > > (similar > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase > > > > (what > > > > we > > > > currently > > > > have) > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed > > > > already). > > > > Any > > > > of > > > > those > > > > should > > > > have different options. Erase must have at least > > > > Width > > > > slider, > > > > Knife > > > > should > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos > > > > rectos, > > > > segmentos > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names > > > > from > > > > screen. :) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > @m > > > > arke > > > > r.es> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is > > > > > > enought > > > > > > interesant > > > > > > to > > > > > > get > > > > > > some > > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in > > > > > > boolean > > > > > > operations, > > > > > > not > > > > > > only > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the > > > > > > proyect > > > > > > go > > > > > > on, > > > > > > we > > > > > > try > > > > > > to > > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > > > "mysteries" > > > > > > solved by > > > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox > > > > > > pixels". Do > > > > > > you mean > > > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room > > > > > > for > > > > > > another > > > > > > icon/button? > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my > > > > > > head? > > > > > > > > > > > > All best, > > > > > > brynn > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > @mar > > > > > > ker. > > > > > > es> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > > > > > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of > > > > > > Code > > > > > > (GSoC) > > > > > > 2016 - > > > > > > Call for > > > > > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > > > > ---- > > > > > ---- > > > > > ------ > > > > > ---- > > > > > ------------- > > > > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > > > > Application > > > > > Performance > > > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances > > > > > at > > > > > just > > > > > $35/Month > > > > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take > > > > > corrective > > > > > actions > > > > > now > > > > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user > > > > > experience. > > > > > Signup > > > > > Now! > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267 > > > > > 3083 > > > > > 11&i > > > > > u=/4 > > > > > 14 > > > > > 0 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inks > > > > > cape > > > > > -dev > > > > > el > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > ---- > ---- > ----------- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > Application > Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > actions > now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > Signup > Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&i > u=/4 > 140 > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-dev > el
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Another view with select tool:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7446/
Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in the UI?
Cheers, Josh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3313... r.es> wrote:
Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected element, ex: full circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like currently?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.
Just my .02
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments. He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the button.
What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza:
And a little video working for people couldent compile.
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
Cheers, Jabier.
El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza escribió: > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget > dinamic. > Currently > in > Spray Tool. > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/ > > Feedback are welcome. > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic > escribió: > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should > > really > > watch > > out that > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > > > Cheers, > > Vlada > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > <jabier.arraiz > > a@...3326... > > rk > > er.es> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets on > > > the > > > fly > > > from > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for example, > > > is > > > selected. > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir Savic > > > escribió: > > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in > > > > toolbox. > > > > There > > > > are, > > > > from > > > > usability point of view, two possible but not so > > > > trivial to > > > > implement > > > > solutions: > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. Similar > > > > to > > > > path > > > > tool > > > > modes > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other > > > > settings > > > > that > > > > change > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one > > > > because > > > > there > > > > are > > > > other > > > > other tools that could benefit from this change. > > > > For > > > > example, > > > > Mash > > > > gradient > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase > > > > could > > > > have > > > > knife > > > > (similar > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase > > > > (what > > > > we > > > > currently > > > > have) > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed > > > > already). > > > > Any > > > > of > > > > those > > > > should > > > > have different options. Erase must have at least > > > > Width > > > > slider, > > > > Knife > > > > should > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de segmentos > > > > rectos, > > > > segmentos > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names > > > > from > > > > screen. :) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > @m > > > > arke > > > > r.es> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is > > > > > > enought > > > > > > interesant > > > > > > to > > > > > > get > > > > > > some > > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in > > > > > > boolean > > > > > > operations, > > > > > > not > > > > > > only > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If the > > > > > > proyect > > > > > > go > > > > > > on, > > > > > > we > > > > > > try > > > > > > to > > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > > > "mysteries" > > > > > > solved by > > > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox > > > > > > pixels". Do > > > > > > you mean > > > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room > > > > > > for > > > > > > another > > > > > > icon/button? > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my > > > > > > head? > > > > > > > > > > > > All best, > > > > > > brynn > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > @mar > > > > > > ker. > > > > > > es> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape-Devel" > > > > > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of > > > > > > Code > > > > > > (GSoC) > > > > > > 2016 - > > > > > > Call for > > > > > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > > > > ---- > > > > > ---- > > > > > ------ > > > > > ---- > > > > > ------------- > > > > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > > > > Application > > > > > Performance > > > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances > > > > > at > > > > > just > > > > > $35/Month > > > > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take > > > > > corrective > > > > > actions > > > > > now > > > > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user > > > > > experience. > > > > > Signup > > > > > Now! > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267 > > > > > 3083 > > > > > 11&i > > > > > u=/4 > > > > > 14 > > > > > 0 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inks > > > > > cape > > > > > -dev > > > > > el > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > ---- > ---- > ----------- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > Application > Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > actions > now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > Signup > Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&i > u=/4 > 140 > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-dev > el
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On Wed, 2016-01-27 at 18:03 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Another view with select tool:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7446/
Cheers, Jabier.
I think hiding things when its not really necessary for space reasons is not such a good idea as it makes discoverability more difficult.
Tav
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in the UI?
Cheers, Josh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3286...... ke r.es> wrote:
Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected element, ex: full circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like currently?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.
Just my .02
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments. He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the button.
What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió:
Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza: > And a little video working for people couldent compile. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ
Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) )
Regards, Maren
> Cheers, Jabier. > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza > escribió: > > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget > > dinamic. > > Currently > > in > > Spray Tool. > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/ > > > > Feedback are welcome. > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic > > escribió: > > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we should > > > really > > > watch > > > out that > > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Vlada > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > > <jabier.arraiz > > > a@...3326... > > > rk > > > er.es> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove widgets > > > > on > > > > the > > > > fly > > > > from > > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for > > > > example, > > > > is > > > > selected. > > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir > > > > Savic > > > > escribió: > > > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in > > > > > toolbox. > > > > > There > > > > > are, > > > > > from > > > > > usability point of view, two possible but not so > > > > > trivial to > > > > > implement > > > > > solutions: > > > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. > > > > > Similar > > > > > to > > > > > path > > > > > tool > > > > > modes > > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other > > > > > settings > > > > > that > > > > > change > > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one > > > > > because > > > > > there > > > > > are > > > > > other > > > > > other tools that could benefit from this change. > > > > > For > > > > > example, > > > > > Mash > > > > > gradient > > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. Erase > > > > > could > > > > > have > > > > > knife > > > > > (similar > > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase > > > > > (what > > > > > we > > > > > currently > > > > > have) > > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed > > > > > already). > > > > > Any > > > > > of > > > > > those > > > > > should > > > > > have different options. Erase must have at least > > > > > Width > > > > > slider, > > > > > Knife > > > > > should > > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de > > > > > segmentos > > > > > rectos, > > > > > segmentos > > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names > > > > > from > > > > > screen. :) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > @m > > > > > arke > > > > > r.es> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is > > > > > > > enought > > > > > > > interesant > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in > > > > > > > boolean > > > > > > > operations, > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > proyect > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > on, > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > > > > "mysteries" > > > > > > > solved by > > > > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox > > > > > > > pixels". Do > > > > > > > you mean > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make room > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > icon/button? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my > > > > > > > head? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All best, > > > > > > > brynn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > > @mar > > > > > > > ker. > > > > > > > es> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > > > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape- > > > > > > > Devel" > > > > > > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > Code > > > > > > > (GSoC) > > > > > > > 2016 - > > > > > > > Call for > > > > > > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > > > > > Application > > > > > > Performance > > > > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances > > > > > > at > > > > > > just > > > > > > $35/Month > > > > > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take > > > > > > corrective > > > > > > actions > > > > > > now > > > > > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > Signup > > > > > > Now! > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=2 > > > > > > 67 > > > > > > 3083 > > > > > > 11&i > > > > > > u=/4 > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/in > > > > > > ks > > > > > > cape > > > > > > -dev > > > > > > el > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > ---- > > ---- > > ----------- > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > Application > > Performance > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > > $35/Month > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > > actions > > now > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > > Signup > > Now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311 > > &i > > u=/4 > > 140 > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-d > > ev > > el > > --------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > ---- > ------------- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > Application > Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > actions > now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > Signup > Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&i > u= > /414 > 0 > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-dev > el >
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Ok, Tav. Anyway, hidding it from toolbar actions like the first patch/video?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 19:49 +0100, Tavmjong Bah escribió:
On Wed, 2016-01-27 at 18:03 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Another view with select tool:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7446/
Cheers, Jabier.
I think hiding things when its not really necessary for space reasons is not such a good idea as it makes discoverability more difficult.
Tav
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in the UI?
Cheers, Josh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3314...67... ar ke r.es> wrote:
Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected element, ex: full circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like currently?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.
Just my .02
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
First of all sorry for the wrong suject.
I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the video coments. He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first review we have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily the border -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon of the button.
What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann escribió: > Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza: > > And a little video working for people couldent compile. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ > > Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! > (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) ) > > Regards, > Maren > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza > > escribió: > > > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget > > > dinamic. > > > Currently > > > in > > > Spray Tool. > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/ > > > > > > Feedback are welcome. > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic > > > escribió: > > > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we > > > > should > > > > really > > > > watch > > > > out that > > > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > > > <jabier.arraiz > > > > a@...3326... > > > > rk > > > > er.es> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove > > > > > widgets > > > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > fly > > > > > from > > > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for > > > > > example, > > > > > is > > > > > selected. > > > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir > > > > > Savic > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in > > > > > > toolbox. > > > > > > There > > > > > > are, > > > > > > from > > > > > > usability point of view, two possible but not > > > > > > so > > > > > > trivial to > > > > > > implement > > > > > > solutions: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. > > > > > > Similar > > > > > > to > > > > > > path > > > > > > tool > > > > > > modes > > > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other > > > > > > settings > > > > > > that > > > > > > change > > > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one > > > > > > because > > > > > > there > > > > > > are > > > > > > other > > > > > > other tools that could benefit from this > > > > > > change. > > > > > > For > > > > > > example, > > > > > > Mash > > > > > > gradient > > > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. > > > > > > Erase > > > > > > could > > > > > > have > > > > > > knife > > > > > > (similar > > > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase > > > > > > (what > > > > > > we > > > > > > currently > > > > > > have) > > > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed > > > > > > already). > > > > > > Any > > > > > > of > > > > > > those > > > > > > should > > > > > > have different options. Erase must have at > > > > > > least > > > > > > Width > > > > > > slider, > > > > > > Knife > > > > > > should > > > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > rectos, > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names > > > > > > from > > > > > > screen. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > @m > > > > > > arke > > > > > > r.es> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is > > > > > > > > enought > > > > > > > > interesant > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in > > > > > > > > boolean > > > > > > > > operations, > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > proyect > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > on, > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > > > > > "mysteries" > > > > > > > > solved by > > > > > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox > > > > > > > > pixels". Do > > > > > > > > you mean > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make > > > > > > > > room > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > icon/button? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my > > > > > > > > head? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All best, > > > > > > > > brynn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > > > @mar > > > > > > > > ker. > > > > > > > > es> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > > > > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape- > > > > > > > > Devel" > > > > > > > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Code > > > > > > > > (GSoC) > > > > > > > > 2016 - > > > > > > > > Call for > > > > > > > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > Application > > > > > > > Performance > > > > > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App > > > > > > > instances > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > $35/Month > > > > > > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take > > > > > > > corrective > > > > > > > actions > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > Signup > > > > > > > Now! > > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id > > > > > > > =2 > > > > > > > 67 > > > > > > > 3083 > > > > > > > 11&i > > > > > > > u=/4 > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > > > > __ > > > > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > ks > > > > > > > cape > > > > > > > -dev > > > > > > > el > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > ---- > > > ---- > > > ---- > > > ----------- > > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > > Application > > > Performance > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at > > > just > > > $35/Month > > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take > > > corrective > > > actions > > > now > > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > > > Signup > > > Now! > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=2673083 > > > 11 > > > &i > > > u=/4 > > > 140 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape > > > -d > > > ev > > > el > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > ---- > > ---- > > ------------- > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > > Application > > Performance > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > > $35/Month > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > > actions > > now > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > > Signup > > Now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311 > > &i > > u= > > /414 > > 0 > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-d > > ev > > el > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > ---- > ---- > ----------- > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into > Application > Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > actions > now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > Signup > Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&i > u= > /4 > 140 > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-dev > el
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Regarding Ellipse/Circle and Selector Tools, that gets into hiding stuff that should be visible by default. With the Spray Tool example, the toggles that are hidden are effectively dependent on the "parent" feature being enabled in the first place.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Ok, Tav. Anyway, hidding it from toolbar actions like the first patch/video?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 19:49 +0100, Tavmjong Bah escribió:
On Wed, 2016-01-27 at 18:03 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Another view with select tool:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7446/
Cheers, Jabier.
I think hiding things when its not really necessary for space reasons is not such a good idea as it makes discoverability more difficult.
Tav
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in the UI?
Cheers, Josh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...360...1367... ar ke r.es> wrote:
Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected element, ex: full circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like currently?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
I don't think there is any benefit to styling them differently. None of those options are applicable if that base functionality isn't toggled on. If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you would need to long-click the icon because would allow you to change the default state of that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in Scribus if you long-click on the icons they have for things like shape tools.
Just my .02
Cheers, Josh
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
> First of all sorry for the wrong suject. > > I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in the > video > coments. > He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a first > review we > have two options: Style the buttons diferently, probabily > the > border > -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the icon > of > the > button. > > What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea? > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann > escribió: > > Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza: > > > And a little video working for people couldent compile. > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ > > > > Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very much! > > (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) ) > > > > Regards, > > Maren > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier Arraiza > > > escribió: > > > > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget > > > > dinamic. > > > > Currently > > > > in > > > > Spray Tool. > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/ > > > > > > > > Feedback are welcome. > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir Savic > > > > escribió: > > > > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we > > > > > should > > > > > really > > > > > watch > > > > > out that > > > > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > > > > <jabier.arraiz > > > > > a@...3326... > > > > > rk > > > > > er.es> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove > > > > > > widgets > > > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > fly > > > > > > from > > > > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for > > > > > > example, > > > > > > is > > > > > > selected. > > > > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, Vladimir > > > > > > Savic > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon in > > > > > > > toolbox. > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > are, > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > usability point of view, two possible but not > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > trivial to > > > > > > > implement > > > > > > > solutions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > > > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. > > > > > > > Similar > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > path > > > > > > > tool > > > > > > > modes > > > > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with other > > > > > > > settings > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this one > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > other tools that could benefit from this > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > For > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > Mash > > > > > > > gradient > > > > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. > > > > > > > Erase > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > knife > > > > > > > (similar > > > > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand erase > > > > > > > (what > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > currently > > > > > > > have) > > > > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have proposed > > > > > > > already). > > > > > > > Any > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > have different options. Erase must have at > > > > > > > least > > > > > > > Width > > > > > > > slider, > > > > > > > Knife > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > rectos, > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish names > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > screen. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier Arraiza > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > > @m > > > > > > > arke > > > > > > > r.es> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, Brynn > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but ¿Is > > > > > > > > > enought > > > > > > > > > interesant > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also in > > > > > > > > > boolean > > > > > > > > > operations, > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. If > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > proyect > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > on, > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > > > > > > "mysteries" > > > > > > > > > solved by > > > > > > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox > > > > > > > > > pixels". Do > > > > > > > > > you mean > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > toolbox would need to be bigger, to make > > > > > > > > > room > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > icon/button? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or is something technical that goes over my > > > > > > > > > head? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All best, > > > > > > > > > brynn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz" > > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > > > > @mar > > > > > > > > > ker. > > > > > > > > > es> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:44 AM > > > > > > > > > To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>; "Inkscape- > > > > > > > > > Devel" > > > > > > > > > inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Code > > > > > > > > > (GSoC) > > > > > > > > > 2016 - > > > > > > > > > Call for > > > > > > > > > mentors & help with ideas page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > Application > > > > > > > > Performance > > > > > > > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App > > > > > > > > instances > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > $35/Month > > > > > > > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take > > > > > > > > corrective > > > > > > > > actions > > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > Signup > > > > > > > > Now! 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Ok, I prepare a commit soon with dependent toolbar hides. Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 14:38 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Regarding Ellipse/Circle and Selector Tools, that gets into hiding stuff that should be visible by default. With the Spray Tool example, the toggles that are hidden are effectively dependent on the "parent" feature being enabled in the first place.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Ok, Tav. Anyway, hidding it from toolbar actions like the first patch/video?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 19:49 +0100, Tavmjong Bah escribió:
On Wed, 2016-01-27 at 18:03 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Another view with select tool:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7446/
Cheers, Jabier.
I think hiding things when its not really necessary for space reasons is not such a good idea as it makes discoverability more difficult.
Tav
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in the UI?
Cheers, Josh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arrai za@...1367... ar ke r.es> wrote:
Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes.
If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected element, ex: full circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like currently?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió: > I don't think there is any benefit to styling them > differently. > None > of > those options are applicable if that base functionality > isn't > toggled > on. > If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you > would > need > to > long-click the icon because would allow you to change the > default > state of > that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in > Scribus > if > you > long-click on the icons they have for things like shape > tools. > > Just my .02 > > Cheers, > Josh > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz > < > jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote: > > > First of all sorry for the wrong suject. > > > > I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in > > the > > video > > coments. > > He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a > > first > > review we > > have two options: Style the buttons diferently, > > probabily > > the > > border > > -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the > > icon > > of > > the > > button. > > > > What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea? > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann > > escribió: > > > Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza: > > > > And a little video working for people couldent > > > > compile. > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ > > > > > > Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very > > > much! > > > (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) ) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Maren > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier > > > > Arraiza > > > > escribió: > > > > > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget > > > > > dinamic. > > > > > Currently > > > > > in > > > > > Spray Tool. > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/ > > > > > > > > > > Feedback are welcome. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir > > > > > Savic > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we > > > > > > should > > > > > > really > > > > > > watch > > > > > > out that > > > > > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier > > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > > <jabier.arraiz > > > > > > a@...3326... > > > > > > rk > > > > > > er.es> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove > > > > > > > widgets > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > fly > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > selected. > > > > > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, > > > > > > > Vladimir > > > > > > > Savic > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > toolbox. > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > are, > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > usability point of view, two possible but > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > trivial to > > > > > > > > implement > > > > > > > > solutions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > > > > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. > > > > > > > > Similar > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > path > > > > > > > > tool > > > > > > > > modes > > > > > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > settings > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > other tools that could benefit from this > > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > > For > > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > Mash > > > > > > > > gradient > > > > > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. > > > > > > > > Erase > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > knife > > > > > > > > (similar > > > > > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand > > > > > > > > erase > > > > > > > > (what > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > currently > > > > > > > > have) > > > > > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have > > > > > > > > proposed > > > > > > > > already). > > > > > > > > Any > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > have different options. Erase must have at > > > > > > > > least > > > > > > > > Width > > > > > > > > slider, > > > > > > > > Knife > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de > > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > > rectos, > > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish > > > > > > > > names > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > screen. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier > > > > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > > > @m > > > > > > > > arke > > > > > > > > r.es> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, > > > > > > > > > Brynn > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but > > > > > > > > > > ¿Is > > > > > > > > > > enought > > > > > > > > > > interesant > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > boolean > > > > > > > > > > operations, > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > proyect > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > on, > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > > > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > > > > > > > "mysteries" > > > > > > > > > > solved by > > > > > > > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox > > > > > > > > > > pixels". 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That change with the Star/Polygon tool is a great example of where it makes sense. Nice work. :)
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:25 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Ok, I prepare a commit soon with dependent toolbar hides. Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 14:38 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Regarding Ellipse/Circle and Selector Tools, that gets into hiding stuff that should be visible by default. With the Spray Tool example, the toggles that are hidden are effectively dependent on the "parent" feature being enabled in the first place.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Ok, Tav. Anyway, hidding it from toolbar actions like the first patch/video?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 19:49 +0100, Tavmjong Bah escribió:
On Wed, 2016-01-27 at 18:03 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Another view with select tool:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7446/
Cheers, Jabier.
I think hiding things when its not really necessary for space reasons is not such a good idea as it makes discoverability more difficult.
Tav
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about in the UI?
Cheers, Josh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arrai za@...1367... ar ke r.es> wrote:
> Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes. > > If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected > element, > ex: > full > circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like > currently? > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler escribió: > > I don't think there is any benefit to styling them > > differently. > > None > > of > > those options are applicable if that base functionality > > isn't > > toggled > > on. > > If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume you > > would > > need > > to > > long-click the icon because would allow you to change the > > default > > state of > > that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or in > > Scribus > > if > > you > > long-click on the icons they have for things like shape > > tools. > > > > Just my .02 > > > > Cheers, > > Josh > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz > > < > > jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote: > > > > > First of all sorry for the wrong suject. > > > > > > I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer in > > > the > > > video > > > coments. > > > He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a > > > first > > > review we > > > have two options: Style the buttons diferently, > > > probabily > > > the > > > border > > > -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into the > > > icon > > > of > > > the > > > button. > > > > > > What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea? > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren Hachmann > > > escribió: > > > > Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza: > > > > > And a little video working for people couldent > > > > > compile. > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ > > > > > > > > Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea very > > > > much! > > > > (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) ) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Maren > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars widget > > > > > > dinamic. > > > > > > Currently > > > > > > in > > > > > > Spray Tool. > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Feedback are welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, Vladimir > > > > > > Savic > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but we > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > watch > > > > > > > out that > > > > > > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier > > > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiz > > > > > > > a@...3326... > > > > > > > rk > > > > > > > er.es> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or remove > > > > > > > > widgets > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > fly > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, for > > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > selected. > > > > > > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, > > > > > > > > Vladimir > > > > > > > > Savic > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more icon > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > toolbox. > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > are, > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > usability point of view, two possible but > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > trivial to > > > > > > > > > implement > > > > > > > > > solutions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main toolbar > > > > > > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary toolbar. > > > > > > > > > Similar > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > path > > > > > > > > > tool > > > > > > > > > modes > > > > > > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > settings > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of this > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > other tools that could benefit from this > > > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > > > For > > > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > > Mash > > > > > > > > > gradient > > > > > > > > > and regular gradient tools could be merged. > > > > > > > > > Erase > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > knife > > > > > > > > > (similar > > > > > > > > > to a path tool with zero width), freehand > > > > > > > > > erase > > > > > > > > > (what > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > currently > > > > > > > > > have) > > > > > > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have > > > > > > > > > proposed > > > > > > > > > already). > > > > > > > > > Any > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > have different options. Erase must have at > > > > > > > > > least > > > > > > > > > Width > > > > > > > > > slider, > > > > > > > > > Knife > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion de > > > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > > > rectos, > > > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those Spanish > > > > > > > > > names > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > screen. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier > > > > > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > > > > @m > > > > > > > > > arke > > > > > > > > > r.es> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, > > > > > > > > > > Brynn > > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool but > > > > > > > > > > > ¿Is > > > > > > > > > > > enought > > > > > > > > > > > interesant > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths also > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > boolean > > > > > > > > > > > operations, > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser tool. > > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > proyect > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > on, > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > > > > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > > > > > > > > "mysteries" > > > > > > > > > > > solved by > > > > > > > > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "toolbox > > > > > > > > > > > pixels". 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El jue, 28-01-2016 a las 08:51 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
That change with the Star/Polygon tool is a great example of where it makes sense. Nice work. :)
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:25 AM, Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...3301..... er.es> wrote:
Ok, I prepare a commit soon with dependent toolbar hides. Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 14:38 -0800, Josh Andler escribió:
Regarding Ellipse/Circle and Selector Tools, that gets into hiding stuff that should be visible by default. With the Spray Tool example, the toggles that are hidden are effectively dependent on the "parent" feature being enabled in the first place.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz < jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:
Ok, Tav. Anyway, hidding it from toolbar actions like the first patch/video?
Cheers, Jabier.
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 19:49 +0100, Tavmjong Bah escribió:
On Wed, 2016-01-27 at 18:03 +0100, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
Another view with select tool:
https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7446/
Cheers, Jabier.
I think hiding things when its not really necessary for space reasons is not such a good idea as it makes discoverability more difficult.
Tav
El mié, 27-01-2016 a las 08:39 -0800, Josh Andler escribió: > Can you take a screenshot of where you're talking about > in > the > UI? > > Cheers, > Josh > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Jabier Arraiza > <jabier.arrai > za@...1367... > ar > ke > r.es> > wrote: > > > Hi Josh, another question about UX toolbar changes. > > > > If the toolbar has elements disabled by the selected > > element, > > ex: > > full > > circle selected, is beter hide it or disable like > > currently? > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 18:34 -0800, Josh Andler > > escribió: > > > I don't think there is any benefit to styling them > > > differently. > > > None > > > of > > > those options are applicable if that base > > > functionality > > > isn't > > > toggled > > > on. > > > If there were an arrow or dark corner I would assume > > > you > > > would > > > need > > > to > > > long-click the icon because would allow you to change > > > the > > > default > > > state of > > > that button. An example would be the Adobe tools or > > > in > > > Scribus > > > if > > > you > > > long-click on the icons they have for things like > > > shape > > > tools. > > > > > > Just my .02 > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Josh > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza > > > Cenoz > > > < > > > jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote: > > > > > > > First of all sorry for the wrong suject. > > > > > > > > I recive a interesting feedback from Mark Schafer > > > > in > > > > the > > > > video > > > > coments. > > > > He point me a method to mark expandable icons. In a > > > > first > > > > review we > > > > have two options: Style the buttons diferently, > > > > probabily > > > > the > > > > border > > > > -dashed- on off state or made a corner mark into > > > > the > > > > icon > > > > of > > > > the > > > > button. > > > > > > > > What you prefer? Any one more? Is a good idea? > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > El mar, 26-01-2016 a las 23:10 +0100, Maren > > > > Hachmann > > > > escribió: > > > > > Am 25.01.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Jabier Arraiza: > > > > > > And a little video working for people couldent > > > > > > compile. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNQoyO62nQ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the video, Jabier, I like your idea > > > > > very > > > > > much! > > > > > (still using a 4:3 monitor ;) ) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Maren > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 15:01 +0100, Jabier > > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > This is a attemp to make extended toolbars > > > > > > > widget > > > > > > > dinamic. > > > > > > > Currently > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > Spray Tool. > > > > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7431/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feedback are welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 11:09 +0100, > > > > > > > Vladimir > > > > > > > Savic > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > Disabling is required, that´s for sure, but > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > watch > > > > > > > > out that > > > > > > > > toolbar doesn´t grow up to big (long). :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jabier > > > > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiz > > > > > > > > a@...3326... > > > > > > > > rk > > > > > > > > er.es> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vlada, currently we don't add or > > > > > > > > > remove > > > > > > > > > widgets > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > fly > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > toolbox, but we can disable if a knife, > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > selected. > > > > > > > > > Anyway i try to hide/show widgets to be > > > > > > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 10:21 +0100, > > > > > > > > > Vladimir > > > > > > > > > Savic > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jabier, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don´t think we could afford one more > > > > > > > > > > icon > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > toolbox. > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > are, > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > usability point of view, two possible > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > trivial to > > > > > > > > > > implement > > > > > > > > > > solutions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Implement Icon grouping on main > > > > > > > > > > toolbar > > > > > > > > > > 2) Dynamically changing secondary > > > > > > > > > > toolbar. > > > > > > > > > > Similar > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > path > > > > > > > > > > tool > > > > > > > > > > modes > > > > > > > > > > (BSpline, Spiro, Bezier etc.), but with > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > settings > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > > > depending on modus.. I´m in favour of > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > other tools that could benefit from > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > > > > For > > > > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > > > Mash > > > > > > > > > > gradient > > > > > > > > > > and regular gradient tools could be > > > > > > > > > > merged. > > > > > > > > > > Erase > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > knife > > > > > > > > > > (similar > > > > > > > > > > to a path tool with zero width), > > > > > > > > > > freehand > > > > > > > > > > erase > > > > > > > > > > (what > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > currently > > > > > > > > > > have) > > > > > > > > > > and guides slicing (the one you have > > > > > > > > > > proposed > > > > > > > > > > already). > > > > > > > > > > Any > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > have different options. Erase must have > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > least > > > > > > > > > > Width > > > > > > > > > > slider, > > > > > > > > > > Knife > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > offer an option to Crear una sucesion > > > > > > > > > > de > > > > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > > > > rectos, > > > > > > > > > > segmentos > > > > > > > > > > paraxiales etc. I´ve copied those > > > > > > > > > > Spanish > > > > > > > > > > names > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > screen. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Vlada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Jabier > > > > > > > > > > Arraiza > > > > > > > > > > <jabier.arraiza > > > > > > > > > > @m > > > > > > > > > > arke > > > > > > > > > > r.es> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, one more icon :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 25-01-2016 a las 00:31 -0700, > > > > > > > > > > > Brynn > > > > > > > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > "Hy Brynn. I like more a new tool > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > ¿Is > > > > > > > > > > > > enought > > > > > > > > > > > > interesant > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > toolbox pixels? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a problem on open paths > > > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > boolean > > > > > > > > > > > > operations, > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > in potrace related code in eraser > > > > > > > > > > > > tool. > > > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > proyect > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > on, > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > solve this open path problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about open > > > > > > > > > > > > path/boolean. Several > > > > > > > > > > > > "mysteries" > > > > > > > > > > > > solved by > > > > > > > > > > > > that comment :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by > > > > > > > > > > > > "toolbox > > > > > > > > > > > > pixels". 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Jabier Arraiza -
Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz -
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Tavmjong Bah